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    Quote Originally Posted by tri boy View Post
    Cheers for the advice Mark
    Doing a bit of research now actually, and the T63 pops up regular.
    Als0 Pirelli MT21, V rubber VRM147?, and D606's.
    I will sniff round town this week for deals.
    Thanks again. Really need the good advice with the XR's.
    I'm chasing a larger 140/80-18 VRM147 at the moment but from what I can find out there are none in the country at the moment. The MT21's have a bit of a tendency to chunk, never had a T63 but people seem to rave about them. I'm a huge fan of a D606. Use to run a 130 on the DR650 and it was awesome. Obviously lots of gravel down here in Canty etc and not a lot of mud. Guessing you have very different surface.

    Big thing with all of these tyres is to watch pressures. I could kill a 120 wide rear D606 in about 1500kms at 22psi (DB and a bit). Put it up to 28/30psi and it will last for 5000kms. On gravel the pressure increase doesn't make a huge difference to traction. On sand/mud etc obviously drop the pressure.

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    Cheers for the info
    Sent an email off to Cycletreads re the T63's and now will probably choose between them or Rob's E-09's
    The D606 is also in the running if I can snavvle one in town.

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    Everyone runs 130 section tyres on the DR650's.
    No problems at all.

    What's the rim width?

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    Fairly certain it's 18 x 2.15
    (just wiped the splooge out of the way).

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    I had a 130 e09 on the klr and it was fine. Then went to a t63 and imho they are superior to a e09.
    Wear is about the same
    tar-ability is about the same.
    Sid grip when leaning over or on off camber surfaces is way superior.
    Only good thing about an e09 is the woohoo factor coming out of gravel corners. Only problem is the woohoo factor can turn into an oh shit moment for no apparent reason.
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    Google says the tyre specs on the XR650L is 3.00x21 and 4.60x21. That's kinda small for the size of bike, but in line with the NX650 Dominator I had (90/90-21 and 120/90-17 in ETRTO numbers). Bear in mind a 4.60 is about a 120/90 ETRTO or 100/100 ISO.

    I would not be concerned running 1 size up, ie a 130/80 ETRTO or 110/100 ISO or 5.10 (inch). Many bikes in the class run that size without issues, including the XR650R.

    I've been so impressed with the T63 I'll never buy an MT21 rear again. MT21 chunks from the get-go and is no good off the seal from 2000km, probably because all the edges are ripped to shreds. The T63 lasted longer, gripped for longer, and didn't chunk until 3500km - and was cheaper to buy. Grip seems very similar although the MT21 may have the edge (ha ha) at max lean on the tar. That was only time I ever noticed the T63 behaving differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warewolf View Post
    ...I've been so impressed with the T63 I'll never buy an MT21 rear again....
    Seeing as you have used both how does the T63 compare for size and profile to the MT21?. I'm assuming you has a 130/80-18 T63 vs a 140/80-18 MT21. As you know the MT21 (VRM147) is the only sub $200 knobblie that in 140 size so I'm still considering options for the 950. I cant quite yet bring myself to spend $250/350 on a rear tyre.

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    Just got a K760 rear ($100) to go with the Innova Enduro front ($45) as my knobblie wheelset.

    Seems to have a nice compliant carcass compared to the MT21.
    Should be good at around 18-20psi.

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    Anyone seen these? would like to see how they compare with Michey Deserts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooneyr View Post
    Seeing as you have used both how does the T63 compare for size and profile to the MT21?. I'm assuming you has a 130/80-18 T63 vs a 140/80-18 MT21.
    Same shite, different smell, AFAICS. The 130s all seem more rounded than the 140s which seem flatter. The MT21 is also available in the 130/80-18 but I never used that size. Will probably stay with 130s for adventure tyres.

    Quote Originally Posted by cooneyr View Post
    As you know the MT21 (VRM147) is the only sub $200 knobblie that in 140 size so I'm still considering options for the 950. I cant quite yet bring myself to spend $250/350 on a rear tyre.
    Hmmm can't help you there.
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    Ordered the T63 120/80 from Cycletreads.
    Thought about going for the 130, but will stick with what the manual/tyre charts say.
    It is being fitted to help run out the front TKC. Then I might try a 130 with a suitable front.
    Thanks for the advice guys. Appreciate it

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    let us know how it goes, just looked at some prices and with the VIP card i can pick them up a couple bucks cheaper than the E-09
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    Arrived 7.00am to my door.
    Less than 24hrs from my call to Cycletreads
    Awesome service, I think I've found my new tyre suppliers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warewolf View Post

    I've been so impressed with the T63 I'll never buy an MT21 rear again. MT21 chunks from the get-go and is no good off the seal from 2000km, probably because all the edges are ripped to shreds. The T63 lasted longer, gripped for longer, and didn't chunk until 3500km - and was cheaper to buy. Grip seems very similar although the MT21 may have the edge (ha ha) at max lean on the tar. That was only time I ever noticed the T63 behaving differently.
    Have also run both those tyres as well as many others and the T63 is the pick of the bunch for me.

    Interestingly one of the two major plus points for me is the grip ( and lack of flexing of the knobs ) that the T63 has at max lean on the tar, the other being the better wear rate.









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    just fitted new tires tonight, so have a set of used Mitas E-09, rear 130/80/17 front 90/90/21 aprox 3 mill tread
    pm if interested

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