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    Cost of house building in NZ?

    I don't understand why building a house is so expensive in New Zealand. In Australia and the USA they seem to be able to build perfectly nice houses for 50%-70% of the cost here.

    Why is that and is anyone doing anything about it?

    I should add that I'm involved with Habitat for Humanity which is a charity which builds houses for needy families. We'd love to be able to bring building costs down.

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    All the builders are working in the Australian sunshine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post

    I should add that I'm involved with Habitat for Humanity which is a charity which builds houses for needy families. We'd love to be able to bring building costs down.
    My brother in law got a home through Habitat and a cousin works for them in Florida. A great scheme for low income earners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    I don't understand why building a house is so expensive in New Zealand. In Australia and the USA they seem to be able to build perfectly nice houses for 50%-70% of the cost here.

    Why is that and is anyone doing anything about it?

    I should add that I'm involved with Habitat for Humanity which is a charity which builds houses for needy families. We'd love to be able to bring building costs down.
    Wouldn't we all love to bring building costs down.

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    as far as labour costs go ...time is money ..i have found over the last 32 years in the building industry that people are building BIGGER houses with several bathrooms if you want a cheaper house build a smaller house

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    The costs are going to go up further in the next 12-18 months. Joinery companies have to comply with new double insulation regulations and so far only aluminium complies. If you want timber........
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    Its because all of us builders want to drive porsches... Yeah right, I'm dreaming again.
    Lets not forget excessive and prohibitive compliance costs, beaurocratic bungling, and NZers general inability to plan beyond a week in advance with any accuracy when it comes to construction.
    Oh, and materials cost a hell of a lot here!
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    hi costs = fletchers own every thing to do with building supplys

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    I suspect a lot of it is self induced. We bleat about poor workmanship and the eventual response is a whole new raft of standards new structures have to comply with. Councils also take a large slice of what they obviously see as a cash cow (and why wouldn’t they, they’ve got an absolute monopoly).

    It may be that the building supply industry is itself a monopoly, there’s certainly very few commercial entities at it’s corporate root, (maybe two?). It’s also about to become illegal to build your own home, one of Kiwidom’s defining characteristics is to be disposed of because we really can’t be trusted to do it right.

    Soon all new residential buildings in the south island and some of the north will have to have double glazed windows at an extra cost of about $4K. That one we didn't ask for, nor did the market demand it, (we can’t be trusted to make good decisions about how to spend our money), the joint wisdom of the health, welfare and building industries engineered it.

    Another factor is that housing in (at least) Aus is structurally simpler. Simple concrete pad, single row brick walls external and internal, basic steel roof trusses, high volume pre-fab joinery, paint and move in. They don't have a lot of earthquakes though...

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    Yes, it's become horrendous. I sold my home a couple of months ago and bought a 566m section overlooking the city in Massey (Auck). I'm looking at m2 prices of $1800 - $2300 to build in B&T, 2 bathrooms, etc etc (200m2 house). Nothing esoteric in terms of materials (no granite kitchen top or Italian tiles), but 5 years ago it would have cost $1300 - $1800 per m2 for the same thing. I haven't noticed my salary increasing by the same amount!


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    Builders earn more in Oz and the USA - I've met carpenters who have moved to those countries for that reason. Our wages are still low despite the lack of builders, plumbers etc. Catching up maybe.

    I don't think resource consents are the problem. Councils fall over themselves to be helpful because they like the idea of more ratepayers. Getting a subdivision approved in the first place is the main hurdle.

    Certainly our tighter building rules are making it more expensive but it has been more expensive for a long time. I remember seeing packages on the Gold Coast in 1995 for 4 bedroom houses, including land, for A$82,000. At the same time here it was costing about NZ$200,000.

    I'm thinking that our double wall (cavity wall) construction must double the construction work. In Oz it looks like they can build single brick walls with no extra internal wall, just a direct lining - or just bare bricks - as Ocean says. I guess our colder moist climate is a problem.Really I'm interested in what the answer is to building affordable homes and wonder if we've adopted a building style which is out of date and unnecessarily expensive.

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    And now it is time to say a big thankyou to you guys and give credit where it is due.

    I posted the same question on 3 other forums which I frequent.

    The computer forum had 2 replies who wanted to argue over the comparison with other places rather than look at reasons and solutions in NZ.

    The discussion forum had 3 replies and blamed resource management.

    The investors forum had 2 reasoned replies.

    But here on Kiwibiker there were 9 replies in the same time and all of them interesting and worth reading.

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    Cost of Materials and Consents

    I agree the cost is stupid, - and monopolies like Gib get right up my nose.

    To make things worse, we ride thru 1000's of acres of forest and yet it costs so much for timber.

    My current thinking is that I have to pay for about 6 bludgers/bureaucrats before I eat.

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    Seen the price of a building permit these days? Damn near 10% of the house goes to the council for red tape and avoiding their obligations.
    NZ hasa a lot of monopolies/ duopolies in the supply chain, combined with (mostly foriegn) owners gouging means higher prices.
    If I was young, single and didn't have a house, I would not be living in NZ. Oz gives better value for money in a lot of areas.
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