Cheesecutter campaign

[Sliver]

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[Pixie]

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is this campaign still going on?
or have Cheesecutters become safer?

Kiwis are too busy working on their apathy

[carver]

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Kiwis are too busy working on their apathy

quasi said he would not stop...

[Sliver]

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[caspernz]

I'm kinda on the fence on this subject. Reading in the Dominion Post today, the Kapiti Coast bike paramedic is not bothered about WRBs. It's along the lines of, WRBs are better than no barriers, and it's not as if bikers are being maimed en-masse by WRBs in NZ. Or are the statistics fudged completely?

[Gremlin]

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I'm kinda on the fence on this subject. Reading in the Dominion Post today, the Kapiti Coast bike paramedic is not bothered about WRBs. It's along the lines of, WRBs are better than no barriers, and it's not as if bikers are being maimed en-masse by WRBs in NZ. Or are the statistics fudged completely?

Simple problem is that if you hit them, you're going to come off worse than if you hit concrete (with less points of impact to maim/alter your course of direction). Seems no-one really thinks of it, yet it can't be argued either.

[swbarnett]

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I'm kinda on the fence on this subject. Reading in the Dominion Post today, the Kapiti Coast bike paramedic is not bothered about WRBs. It's along the lines of, WRBs are better than no barriers, and it's not as if bikers are being maimed en-masse by WRBs in NZ. Or are the statistics fudged completely?

The problem I have with WRBs is not how much of a hazard they are (they're probably no worse than a farm fence put close to the road). It's that they're installed in the name of safety. Anything with a safety related purpose must not decrease safety for anyone. Imagine if the negatively affected group were Maori instead of motorcyclists. They would have never even gotten of the drawing board.

[Mom]

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it's not as if bikers are being maimed en-masse by WRBs in NZ. Or are the statistics fudged completely?

No, bikers are not being injured enmass by them. However, they have the potential to be very lethal to bikers in the event we should come into contact with them over 7okph.

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Simple problem is that if you hit them, you're going to come off worse than if you hit concrete (with less points of impact to maim/alter your course of direction). Seems no-one really thinks of it, yet it can't be argued either.

I guess where a lot of folk come from, it wont matter what you hit, IF excessive speed is a problem.

MY biggest issue with them though, is any kind of mechanical failure, tyre blowout, or what have you with my Millie that results in a "wobble/loss of control" could take off an arm or a leg or even kill me if it happened next to a WRB. I come from the pathetic type of biker that generally follows the speed rules, and travelling at the open road speed limit places me at a risk I can not mitigate should something go wrong.

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It's that they're installed in the name of safety. Anything with a safety related purpose must not decrease safety for anyone.

Be SHHHHHHHHH! You are talking sense. That can not be seen to be acknowledged.

[thehovel]

I heard the tail-end of a radio news item about a rider of a Harley being killed in the Wellington area. I heard it at 6:00am Only just awake. Has any-one else heard any thing about a crash of a biker into a Cheese Cutter Barrier in the last coule of days. Regards Richard

[Maha]

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I heard the tail-end of a radio news item about a rider of a Harley being killed in the Wellington area. I heard it at 6:00am Only just awake. Has any-one else heard any thing about a crash of a biker into a Cheese Cutter Barrier in the last coule of days. Regards Richard

Its all in here Richard...http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1130312226