Wellington says no to bikes on footpath.

[MrMelon]

There's some complete wanker of a parking warden down on Grey St who's just ticketed about 40 bikes and he's sitting there ticketing every new one that comes in too. When I pointed out how ridiculous this was sicne all the bike parks around town are chocka, he said it'd encourage us to take public transport. Something seriously needs to be done about this now before it gets way out of hand.

[Drum]

I totally agree (about something needing to be done). I have been parking in the same spot for more than 2 years and got taxed $60 today. Where was the warning?

And no, I don't think it's "cheeky" to park on the footpath. Take a look where I park and see if I am blocking anyone. There's not even a kerb for crikeys sake. And how come the blue Suzi didn't get a ticket? He's on the red bricks too.

I have a search in at the council to find out the legal status of those bricks and where the road reserve is. You got a fight on your hands you useless council wankers (present company excluded of course!).

I don't believe there is any point in making a public display about this, as we won't get any sympathy from the car driving public. We need to get our point across to the council beurocrats.

[nudemetalz]

I'll do some investigating and see what I can find out.

[RantyDave]

Take a look where I park and see if I am blocking anyone.

Oh that's you. I park there when I have to go to the dentist. Nice bike - has that whole "grrrrrr" thing going on.

Can I use your picture to send to my councillor?

Dave

[RantyDave]

I'll do some investigating and see what I can find out.

Re: finding out what the bylaws actually say?

[Drum]

Oh that's you. I park there when I have to go to the dentist. Nice bike - has that whole "grrrrrr" thing going on.

Can I use your picture to send to my councillor?

Dave

Careful where you park from now on then eh! Unless you want $60 added to the dentists bill.

You can use the picture if you want - they'll be getting a copy from me too with an 'appropriately' worded letter

Till I sort this out Wellington Motorcycles just lost another park out front.

[Fatjim]

Motorcycles are allowed to park on pay and display parks.

You must however display the ticket clearly.

I just got a ticket for parking on a footpath and will challange it. I suggest everybody does, although I'm sure we'll all get court costs as well.

Oh, and it looks like they'll be a metered parking as soon as the goombas figure out how to charge.

[MrMelon]

What other option do we have if we can't park on the footpath near the bike parks. I doubt they're going to put enough new bike parks in to accommodate the excess bikes.

[James Deuce]

Motorcycles are allowed to park on pay and display parks.

You must however display the ticket clearly.

I just got a ticket for parking on a footpath and will challange it. I suggest everybody does, although I'm sure we'll all get court costs as well.

Oh, and it looks like they'll be a metered parking as soon as the goombas figure out how to charge.

No they're not. The parking bylaws expressly forbid us from using them.

That came to light the last time they did a parking on footpaths crusade.

[Fatjim]

Well I got the parking warden to check with "Head office". Computer said yes.

Oh, and update your "buy my bike sig" will ya!

[James Deuce]

Well I got the parking warden to check with "Head office". Computer said yes.

Oh, and update your "buy my bike sig" will ya!

Computer's wrong.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...2&postcount=46

[Devil]

Computer's wrong.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...2&postcount=46

Ok, I never saw that before. THAT is totally fucking stupid.

*me adds to list of reasons why I wont move back to Wgtn*.

[rwh]

**so confused** Can't park on the footpath if all the parks are full, can't use pay and display if all the parks are full......only alternative is to go home it would seem!

Well, you can probably find a park closer than Upper Hutt. But it's probably better to take the train in the first place.

I really don't see why we as bikers should have more rights to park than cars - if the carparks are all full, tough for them too.

And the 'bikes reduce traffic congestion' argument - do they really? The 2 seconds gap (ok, tui) between vehicles is much bigger (at speed, anyway) than the length difference between a car and a bike. Ok you can filter - but when you stop filtering and pull back into line - assuming heavy traffic - all you've actually achieved is queue jumping, not an overall efficiency improvement.

For a real improvement in efficiency of transporting commuters, mass transport is the only way.

Pity I hate it.

Richard

[Devil]

And the 'bikes reduce traffic congestion' argument - do they really? The 2 seconds gap (ok, tui) between vehicles is much bigger (at speed, anyway) than the length difference between a car and a bike. Ok you can filter - but when you stop filtering and pull back into line - assuming heavy traffic - all you've actually achieved is queue jumping, not an overall efficiency improvement.

When you've got multiple bikes together, they take up less space, particularly riding in the staggered formation (2 or more bikes).

Bikes dont block intersections or lanes. They are significantly shorter than most vehicles etc.

[James Deuce]

Well, you can probably find a park closer than Upper Hutt. But it's probably better to take the train in the first place.

I really don't see why we as bikers should have more rights to park than cars - if the carparks are all full, tough for them too.

And the 'bikes reduce traffic congestion' argument - do they really? The 2 seconds gap (ok, tui) between vehicles is much bigger (at speed, anyway) than the length difference between a car and a bike. Ok you can filter - but when you stop filtering and pull back into line - assuming heavy traffic - all you've actually achieved is queue jumping, not an overall efficiency improvement.

For a real improvement in efficiency of transporting commuters, mass transport is the only way.

Pity I hate it.

Richard

Congestion also includes parking. Conservative estimates give 6 bikes per carpark which in most Western countries equals the number of carparks saved due to each car only having one occupant.

Sometimes I wonder why you took up motorcycles. Riding in line with traffic on the motorway in peak hour traffic is asking to get hurt. Motorcycles do not do well in nose to tail accidents, and there are a few enlightened bureaucracies such as California that actively encourage motorcycles to lane-split, both for safety's sake and reducing congestion.

The moment traffic slows to nose to tail accident speeds, 50km/hr and below, I get out of the queue.

Trains are less energy efficient per passenger than motor vehicles.