The Great Global Warming Swindle

[Bren]

Watching this on Prime tonight.....so we are being duped....makes ya think eh...they are saying that CO2 levels don't correlate with Global Warming...in fact average temps were falling post war whilst the CO2 levels were rising significantly...

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Watching this on Prime tonight.....so we are being duped....makes ya think eh...they are saying that CO2 levels don't correlate with Global Warming...in fact average temps were falling post war whilst the CO2 levels were rising significantly...

The globe may (or may not) be warming, but it isn't due to us puny humans

[Terminated]

To what extent may the Earth's rotation around the sun, and the actual tilt of the earth [eg true north and magnetic north] impact upon climate change?

The extent to which there was an ice age, and now conversely a gradual shift in global temperature....I often wonder whether science, scientists and governments have an inside running on this sort of data and of course how any disinformation may be released.

Dang should write a novel but I think there is a good sci-fi film 'The Day the Earth Caught Fire (1961):
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054790/

Heads Up and Enjoy [I think]

[fridayflash]

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The globe may (or may not) be warming, but it isn't due to us puny humans

i totally agree! and it couldnt be anything to do with nasa's high
altitude nuclear testing in the 1950's,of course not!

[Quasievil]

If you ever want to find the truth about any thing in life, follow the money, scaring people into thinking global warming is due to humans and Co2 emissions = justification for new taxes, ie carbo credits and Kyoto B.S

And they are only just starting, wait for the tax on how many fridges you have how many T.V's the type of cars you have...........you Carbon fingerprint will be taxed, stay tuned I give it two years and WOLA !!!

And all those Greenies who think otherwise, your part of the propoganda machine and you are in support of the LIE's and DECEPETION, wake up and smell reality

[irishlad]

Sometimes its better to be conservative. We can control man made CO2 emmissions. So, we will. If global warming still continues we can then look at other factors.
CFC's eat ozone. Get rid of the bastards. Hopefully that big hole above us wil gradually heal.
We can't stop solar flares. All we can do is try to rule out other factors.

[Bren]

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....I often wonder whether science, scientists and governments have an inside running on this sort of data and of course how any disinformation may be released.

The Iron Lady was apparently one of the leading forces on the push towards the cutdown of greenhouses gasses so that she could push the Nuclear Power issue as she did not trust the coalminers or middle eastern oil barons...
She twisted what the scientists of the day were saying to fit her own agenda...sound familiar? They are all tarred with the same brush...



I may not be the smatest fella, but I do not want to be a sheep either...

[irishlad]

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If you ever want to find the truth about any thing in life, follow the money, scaring people into thinking global warming is due to humans and Co2 emissions = justification for new taxes, ie carbo credits and Kyoto B.S

And they are only just starting, wait for the tax on how many fridges you have how many T.V's the type of cars you have...........you Carbon fingerprint will be taxed, stay tuned I give it two years and WOLA !!!

And all those Greenies who think otherwise, your part of the propoganda machine and you are in support of the LIE's and DECEPETION, wake up and smell reality

I am not saying you are wrong. In fact I think you are on the ball, or close to it. But what if you are wrong? Fuck! Shit. Scary biscuits.

[dhunt]

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If you ever want to find the truth about any thing in life, follow the money, scaring people into thinking global warming is due to humans and Co2 emissions = justification for new taxes, ie carbo credits and Kyoto B.S

Yip I think you have got it there.

What I didn't realise was how corrupt the global warming campaigners are. Changing reports and putting scientists names on reports that don't agree with the covered topics!!!!

[munterk6]

If the Earth is ever going to "warm", it will be because of an outside force..ie, a VERY large comet coming around on a long eliptical orbit of the Sun causing a discharge of the Solar capacitor, and in turn massive solar flares which interact and have a huge affect on the weather patterns on Earth. Expect to see more and more extreme weather events, increasing hurricane and cyclone/tornado activity.
The global warming scam is a great way for the corrupt rulers to kill two birds with one stone. To collect more and more taxes from the good citizens, and to keep us all in the dark about the REAL issues we as a planet are facing in the near future. The next agenda will be the total control of the water supply, the regulation, treatment(flouride and other toxic chemicals etc added) and distribution of water will be the next BIG control mechanism.
Meanwhile, we will all be distracted away from the inevitable truth of Armageddon and the End of the Age as we know it.

....makes a great read eh?

[Winston001]

Unfortunately guys, the documentary was shallow and wrong. One of the scientists Carl Wunsch emailed the producers after he'd seen what they produced and said:

I spent hours in the interview describing
many of the problems of understanding the ocean in climate change,
and the ways in which some of the more dramatic elements get
exaggerated in the media relative to more realistic, potentially
truly catastrophic issues, such as the implications of the oncoming sea level rise. As I made clear, both in the preliminary discussions, and in the interview itself, I believe that global warming is a very serious threat that needs equally serious discussion and no one seeing this film could possibly deduce that.

What we now have is an out-and-out propaganda piece, in which
there is not even a gesture toward balance or explanation of why
many of the extended inferences drawn in the film are not widely
accepted by the scientific community. There are so many examples,
it's hard to know where to begin,

For more info on a issue by issue deconstruction of this fraudulent program, see http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=414

[Magua]

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CO2 levels don't correlate with Global Warming...in fact average temps were falling post war whilst the CO2 levels were rising significantly...

Could have something to do with the carbon lag? Carbon stays in the atmosphere for up to decades. What you might be seeing there could be reduced carbon due to the effect of the great depression and the resulting climb after due to ww2 and post war industrialization.

If you're a fan of GCMs (global climate models), this may prove interesting.

The black line represents observations and the other data is from GCMs. The top one shows all forcing, human, solar, volcanic etc, the bottom, just solar and volcanic. Notice how the observations line does not correlate with the model of just solar and volcanic.

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And all those Greenies who think otherwise, your part of the propoganda machine and you are in support of the LIE's and DECEPETION, wake up and smell reality

And you base this on what?

[James Deuce]

I reckon, having just watched it, that that doco was about as credible as the conspiracy theory doco on whether we visited the moon or not.

Lots of sound bites. Lots of edited interviews.

The post doco debate was about as credible until beardy sandal man started making some good points, but then it went back to uninformed lefties and conservatives head butting.

[tri boy]

You Humans still think you matter.
Elvis was right. We should turn off your sun

[Swoop]

The only human input to "global warming" is:
Money, and
Power.