Who says Asians are bad drivers?

**Grahameeboy** · 14th May 2009, 11:14

Just a snap shot but seems to dispell the usual Kiwi Discrimination.Dec 2007Number of Road Casualties / Fatalities by Ethnic Group (% of Population)Asians 7% (9.2%)European 69% (67.6%)Maori 17% (14.6%)Pacific 5% (6.9)Others 2% (1.7)Locals win...

**Blackshear** · 14th May 2009, 11:20

I could argue that half of near misses involved either an elderly Asian or elderly white folk. WHY ARE THEY STILL ON THE ROAD, SRSLY.
While not racist, that's just my input.

**Finn** · 14th May 2009, 11:25

Those stats don't show how many people Asians have killed.

**Grahameeboy** · 14th May 2009, 11:26

Originally Posted by Blackshear

I could argue that half of near misses involved either an elderly Asian or elderly white folk. WHY ARE THEY STILL ON THE ROAD, SRSLY.
While not racist, that's just my input.

Near misses so Kiwi's tend to have less near misses and have accidents then....

**Grahameeboy** · 14th May 2009, 11:27

Originally Posted by Finn

Those stats don't show how many people Asians have killed.

Like I said......."discrimination"

**Usarka** · 14th May 2009, 11:31

Discrimination - that's what I faced at auckland hospital recently. My cultural needs were NOT met by the nursing staff, and I'm very disatisftied.

**Lissa** · 14th May 2009, 11:37

Not sure I am reading it right

So 7% of Asians have caused Fatalities/Accidents

or

7% of Asians have died or been hurt in Accidents (cause of accident unknown)?

Not sure how either of those prove that one Ethnic group is a better driver than the other.

**Finn** · 14th May 2009, 11:40

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Like I said......."discrimination"

It's not discrimination. Those stats only show deaths per ethnic group, not deaths caused by ethnics groups. Nor for that matter does it show car ownership by ethnic group.

Originally Posted by Usarka

Discrimination - that's what I faced at auckland hospital recently. My cultural needs were NOT met by the nursing staff, and I'm very disatisftied.

I don't like kumura either.

**awayatc** · 14th May 2009, 11:42

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Like I said......."discrimination"

And somehow you believe being able to discriminate is bad?.....
We wouldn' t have evolved as a species without it.

Racism on the other hand is negative.
NOT discrimination...
which is natural....
Positive even

**Grahameeboy** · 14th May 2009, 11:44

Originally Posted by Finn

It's not discrimination. Those stats only show deaths per ethnic group, not deaths caused by ethnics groups. Nor for that matter does it show car ownership by ethnic group.

I don't like kumura either.

It was a snap shot, however, what it is telling us is the percentage of ethnic groups involved in injury / casualty crashes so given the big difference between Asians and European NZers it is not unreasonable to suggest that Asians are not the main culprits / cause of accidents / bad drivers

**Finn** · 14th May 2009, 11:46

Originally Posted by awayatc

And somehow you believe being able to discriminate is bad?.....
We wouldn' t have evolved as a species without it.

Racism on the other hand is negative.
NOT discrimination...
which is natural....
Positive even

Exactly. Why do the stats separate the various ethnic groups?

To point out the obvious here, if I'm stopped at a set of lights and an Asian (or African for that matter) drives straight into me and kills me, Grahameeboy thinks I'm the bad driver?

**steve_t** · 14th May 2009, 11:46

We really need to have harder practical exams and more regular practical exams especially for people as they become less aware of what's going on around them.
Glad to see asians causing less accidents as a percentage than their percentage of the population, however I still do see a disproportionately high number of dangerous driving incidents caused by older asian women. I guess this is how the stereotypes come to be

**Grahameeboy** · 14th May 2009, 11:46

Originally Posted by awayatc

And somehow you believe being able to discriminate is bad?.....
We wouldn' t have evolved as a species without it.

Racism on the other hand is negative.
NOT discrimination...
which is natural....
Positive even

I think that negative descrimination in the modern world is bad and yes you are right about "evolution" but whether we have truely evolved is sometimes debatable.

**Laxi** · 14th May 2009, 11:46

Originally Posted by Blackshear

WHY ARE THEY STILL ON THE ROAD,

my wifes grandad was 78 and still driving, his doctor said he should fail his medical "but as long as he staid local he'd let him pass"????, we finaly disabled his car when I was doing some stuff at his place and he came home with 3 flat tyres, I asked him what he did to get them and he didn't even realise they were flat

turned out he'd run over a traffic island and hadn't noticed that either

**Grahameeboy** · 14th May 2009, 11:47

Originally Posted by steve_t

We really need to have harder practical exams and more regular practical exams especially for people as they become less aware of what's going on around them.
Glad to see asians causing less accidents as a percentage than their percentage of the population, however I still do see a disproportionately high number of dangerous driving incidents caused by older asian women. I guess this is how the stereotypes come to be

I find the opposite in Auckland...there are some arrogant drivers out there