Discussion on Mentor Programme

**Maha** · 16th October 2009, 12:52

Originally Posted by Virago

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Late night on-line bitch-fights don't define a person's mentoring ability.

Thats correct, all that means is, that they should be tucked up in their teeny weeny beddy weddy's'...

**Cajun** · 16th October 2009, 12:54

Originally Posted by Virago

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Agreed. But it is not the be all and end all.

Late night on-line bitch-fights don't define a person's mentoring ability.

Its a bit like us as mods, how ever much we say, we are members first and mods second its never gonna be like that. Whatever we say/do is looked differently then a normal user, and we have to watch what/how we say more than others.

Mentors are the same they are being put out there as 'leadership role' and there actions on site should follow that responsibility

**MSTRS:Me** · 16th October 2009, 12:56

Originally Posted by Virago

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Agreed. But it is not the be all and end all.

Late night on-line bitch-fights don't define a person's mentoring ability.

No, but not good for the mentor system in general, which could suffer a lack of respect. I know I have none for anyone here who posts like a petulant child, schoolyard bully or braindead moron.

**Maha** · 16th October 2009, 12:56

Originally Posted by Cajun

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Its a bit like us as mods, how ever much we say, we are members first and mods second its never gonna be like that. Whatever we say/do is looked differently then a normal user, and we have to watch what/how we say more than others.

Mentors are the same they are being put out there as 'leadership role' and there actions on site should follow that responsibility

I would agree with that too, If I were to become a Mod then I would be looked at differently, instead of 23% that think im a knob, that would surely rise to at least 24%?...

**The Stranger:Me** · 16th October 2009, 13:34

Originally Posted by Cajun

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Its a bit like us as mods, how ever much we say, we are members first and mods second its never gonna be like that. Whatever we say/do is looked differently then a normal user, and we have to watch what/how we say more than others.

Mentors are the same they are being put out there as 'leadership role' and there actions on site should follow that responsibility

Please don't ever insinuate I'm a leader or in a leadership role. I find that quite offensive.
To hell with leadership and the responsibility that implies.

**Morcs** · 16th October 2009, 13:46

Originally Posted by The Stranger

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Please don't ever insinuate I'm a leader or in a leadership role. I find that quite offensive.
To hell with leadership and the responsibility that implies.

Indeed. Noel is just a grumpy cnut that knows his shit

and we'd have it no other way

**MSTRS:Me** · 16th October 2009, 13:58

'Grumpy' is fine. In fact, he's a great guy...
'Fuck off knob end' however...he's a different story.

**Cajun** · 16th October 2009, 14:02

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Please don't ever insinuate I'm a leader or in a leadership role. I find that quite offensive.
To hell with leadership and the responsibility that implies.

Well having that ME beside your name puts you in a group different than the people who do not have it.

Dictonary.com says meaning of mentor is below
1. a wise and trusted counselor or teacher.
2. an influential senior sponsor or supporter.

Kb in a way puts these mentors out so other members of can ask them for help and so on, so this is a putting yourself out in a authoritative way.

Or are you from the school of 'do as i say!, not what i do?' teaching system

**MSTRS:Me** · 16th October 2009, 14:08

Originally Posted by Cajun

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Or are you from the school of 'do as i say!, not what i do?' teaching system

Noel's from the school of This is what to do, and this is why. As am I.

**CookMySock** · 16th October 2009, 14:43

Originally Posted by MSTRS

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Noel's from the school of This is what to do, and this is why. As am I.

No he's not. He's from the school of "I am always right, and anyone with a different opinion is a fucktard." There is a huge difference between the wording you use and his arrogant always-right behaviour. At least you are not so nasty about it, but his unbridled rudeness knows no bounds.

Mentors can fucking behave, and if they can't behave, they can at least fess up when they are wrong instead of abusing all and sundry as a defense mechanism.

I can name two Internet forums off the top of my head, where the senior members are there for no other purpose whatsoever, than to get joy from bashing hell out of the newbies who disagree with them.

Steve

**Katman:Me** · 16th October 2009, 15:00

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Please don't ever insinuate I'm a leader or in a leadership role. I find that quite offensive.
To hell with leadership and the responsibility that implies.

Me too.

If someone sets out to push my buttons they shouldn't be surprised when I bite back.

**The Stranger:Me** · 16th October 2009, 15:24

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No he's not. He's from the school of "I am always right, and anyone with a different opinion is a fucktard."

No, just a select few with a different opinons are fucktards. They are not fucktards because they have a different opinion. They are fucktards first and foremost - and just happen to have a different opinion.

That said, I'm not like you. I consider my opinions BEFORE I post them and I enjoy a robust healthy debate. Why voice an opinion if you are not prepared to have it challenged, and if it is challenged surely you should be able to substantiate it - or you're just being a fucktard.

**Firefight** · 16th October 2009, 15:33

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Well having that ME beside your name puts you in a group different than the people who do not have it.

fuck thats deep Neal, must be a slow day at the P of T,

F/F

**The Stranger:Me** · 16th October 2009, 15:50

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Well having that ME beside your name puts you in a group different than the people who do not have it.

Dictonary.com says meaning of mentor is below
1. a wise and trusted counselor or teacher.
2. an influential senior sponsor or supporter.

Kb in a way puts these mentors out so other members of can ask them for help and so on, so this is a putting yourself out in a authoritative way.

Or are you from the school of 'do as i say!, not what i do?' teaching system

Well, I don't see leadership mentioned in those definitions.
But, even if it is implied, we are riding mentors only, not Internet behaviour mentors, duck shooting mentors or any other mentors.

Now ok, this is about to get really fucked up, so stay with me here.

Hell YES I am very much do as I say NOT as I do. We are all different.
If someone wants to learn how to ride and/or how to stay alive I'll do my best to facilitate that, I hope that makes me a worthy mentor.
I'm a 100 yrs old and have no dependent kids, my values are different to someone with a young family and a mortgage. To assume do as I do would be to assume I knew better what's best for them (which is a form of leadership which I so despise).

I despise leadership as it implies followship (is that a word?). It's not the leaders who are dangerous, it's the followers. What was Hitler without followers? An angry short man is all. What was Klark without followers? Without drones to do her bidding? Nothing.

We should ALL of us think for ourselves. Listen to opinions, listen to our concience, listen to advice consider our position on a topic and decide for ourselves.

**Katman:Me** · 16th October 2009, 18:58

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No, but not good for the mentor system in general, which could suffer a lack of respect. I know I have none for anyone here who posts like a petulant child, schoolyard bully or braindead moron.

You're really fond of that little :Me after your name, aren't you.

Does it make you feel important?