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    Quote Originally Posted by Frits Overmars View Post
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    Sorry about that Frits, I can see how busy you are with forums and I assumed you must be flatout overwhelmed with private messages and e-mails most of the time, so that was my simple way to give you the info.

    In the past I have quietly followed comments from yourself and Jan on the Pitlane site, and then of course for awhile now on this site. Very interesting threads, and of course we are all awaiting the Ryger unveiling as I suspect it will indeed be a gamechanger, possibly further reaching than anticipated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitro2tfx View Post
    Sorry about that Frits, I can see how busy you are with forums and I assumed you must be flatout overwhelmed with private messages and e-mails most of the time, so that was my simple way to give you the info.
    Don't worry about that, Clint. Vannik made me realize how valuable your offer is and if it were just me, I'd seize the opportunity right now. But you can imagine the commotion about the Ryger; planning anything is almost impossible.

    In the past I have quietly followed comments from yourself and Jan on the Pitlane site, and then of course for awhile now on this site. Very interesting threads, and of course we are all awaiting the Ryger unveiling as I suspect it will indeed be a gamechanger, possibly further reaching than anticipated.
    I think so too. The engine power and its willingness to rev may have set the tone initially, but the fuel economy and emissions will turn out to be much more important.

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    Phew! I thought I was going to have to throw my nx4 cases and whole bike in a furnace because the ryger concept wouldn't work with case induction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1962 View Post
    Frits, the vast majority of the existing 2 stroke MX engines have case reed induction. In fact, the only cilinder reed engine is the yamaha YZ 250. Is that a problem for 'rygerising' those existing engines ? Or can both types of engine be converted tot the ryger technique ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Frits Overmars
    No problem as far as the Ryger principle is concerned. The only problem I can think of, is one of space: can you lodge the carb between the cylinder and the air filter on those machines?
    Quote Originally Posted by crbbt View Post
    Phew! I thought I was going to have to throw my nx4 cases and whole bike in a furnace because the ryger concept wouldn't work with case induction.
    This is a nice example of how misunderstandings can arise.
    I said case induction engines could be rygerised; I never said you could maintain the case induction. It's the same for rotary engines; they can be rygerised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frits Overmars View Post
    This is a nice example of how misunderstandings can arise.
    I said case induction engines could be rygerised; I never said you could maintain the case induction. It's the same for rotary engines; they can be rygerised.
    Not intended to be a leading question m'lud, but i have a suspicion that a piston port reed induction motor may be the easiest to Rygerise...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Not intended to be a leading question m'lud, but i have a suspicion that a piston port reed induction motor may be the easiest to Rygerise...
    IF that is the case I will keeping one H100 bottom end with MB50 six speed box in it for future use
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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel pig View Post
    IF that is the case I will keeping one H100 bottom end with MB50 six speed box in it for future use
    I have a couple of TF/TS100's put aside for the same purpose......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frits Overmars View Post
    This is a nice example of how misunderstandings can arise.
    I said case induction engines could be rygerised; I never said you could maintain the case induction. It's the same for rotary engines; they can be rygerised.
    That would be fantastic for Mazda, who have always struggled with emissions and consumption on their wankel engines. In fact, those were the reason to put production on hold temporarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Not intended to be a leading question m'lud, but i have a suspicion that a piston port reed induction motor may be the easiest to Rygerise...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frits Overmars
    This is a nice example of how misunderstandings can arise.
    Quote Originally Posted by Frits Overmars
    I said case induction engines could be rygerised; I never said you could maintain the case induction. It's the same for rotary engines; they can be rygerised.
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1962 View Post
    That would be fantastic for Mazda, who have always struggled with emissions and consumption on their wankel engines.
    I love this: you beat me with my own arms, Peter.
    I meant rotary valve engines as opposed to reed valve engines; not rotary piston engines as opposed to reciprocating piston engines.
    This will teach me to write unambiguously from now on .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Not intended to be a leading question m'lud, but i have a suspicion that a piston port reed induction motor may be the easiest to Rygerise...
    If by piston port reed induction you mean the old Suzuki setup in Peewees above picture: Nah...

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    Arh oh well. I've picked a good time to snap a femur then!

    Frits - will there be art pieces hung up around the Ryger workshop with quotes of the possible ideas for how the Ryger works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crbbt View Post
    Frits - will there be art pieces hung up around the Ryger workshop with quotes of the possible ideas for how the Ryger works?
    We've been thinking about a booklet containing the most hilarious ideas, but art pieces is a good idea as well.

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    Ahh, its all done with blue smoke and mirrors.
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    so can we say the Ryger is about "Controlled Auto Ignition" (CAI) and now it's about to figure out how the cylinder is scavenged to get enough fresh mixture inside but also keeping a little exhaust gas in it or maybe letting it flow back from the exhaust port in to the cylinder to provide the right conditions for CAI?

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