GPS mapping and GPS units you use

**cooneyr** · 11th May 2012, 21:05

Originally Posted by Phreaky Phil

Is anyone out there a wiz on garmins Basecamp program ?

Watch us all speak up and risk having to do some work for you! What's up?

**NordieBoy** · 11th May 2012, 21:29

Originally Posted by Phreaky Phil

Is anyone out there a wiz on garmins Basecamp program ?

I use a cute iMac but run Mapsource for the GPS'y stuff.

**Phreaky Phil** · 11th May 2012, 21:55

Iv'e been working on creating GPS routes for our TAT route sheets to use as backup. Iv'e done the Tennessee section OK but when doing the Mississippi section there is a gap in the map joining to roads that we cross. The road exists in real life, iv'e had a look in google earth. Problem is the route i'm creating will not go across the gap. No matter what iv'e tried it will route me around, even going to a point then turning around and going back around to the other side, (when ive put via points at each road end.

I can draw a track over the gap but it comes up as a seperete track to my route. I can convert the whole route to a trackl but it will come up with a zillion way or via points to create it. If you create a track from a route and limit the number of points it doesn't follow the road, it draws straight lines from point to point. From what ive learned my zumo can support 50 routes with 250 points for each route. I only used 80 via points for 450km through Tennessee. I want to be able to do all 10 states as as a route each. not a bit of route, then a track then another route etc. Ive asked in ADV rider but not had definite this is how you do it, it can be done.
Colin reckons he may be able to do it in Mapsource. Basecamp is meant to be the Bees Knees, the Dogs Bollocks !!
Hmmm !!

**Eddieb** · 11th May 2012, 22:15

It's quite possibly a gap in the map data itself where for some reason there's a break in the data for that road. I've had a similar issue with the NZ free maps from time to time on some backroads. You didn't use to be able to route from Raglan to Port Waikato up the coast for example till they fixed the data in a later Map data release.

**NordieBoy** · 11th May 2012, 22:16

Originally Posted by Phreaky Phil

Basecamp is meant to be the Bees Knees, the Dogs Bollocks !!
Hmmm !!

But instead, it's a knee in the bollocks...

What sort of routing are you using?

I'd almost be tempted to end the track there and start the new one after the gap.

**Transalper** · 11th May 2012, 22:53

Fairly sure the zumo will force you to use off road mode for a 250 point route thus you end up with the straight lines again. Limit on both my Garmins is 50 points for auto routing/250 points for Direct or off road routes, per route. Thought the zumo was similar but I know the Dusty Butt routes had to be trimmed as the zumos would not accept 250 point direct routes.
Do some tests with your gps and routes containing similar numbers of via points before to be sure of the devices limits for yourself.

To work around the gap if estimated distance and ETA's aren't important just put a waypoint at each side of the gap and ignore it routing around, when actually there you ride straight through the gap and the gps will pick you up on the other side.
You could always stick another independent waypoint in their or name the one at the front of the gap to remind you to go straight through.

**Transalper** · 12th May 2012, 10:45

Just a thought... in Basecamp or Mapsource you can jump the gap by using the auto routing map to get to the start of the gap, swap to a non autorouting map to jump the gap as a Direct/Off Road Route bit, then swap back to Auto routing map to do the rest.
Looks good for a start BUT...Problem is that after that, any time you do something that makes the software need to recalculate the route it will forget you jumped the gap and re route you around the route-able road again.
Same as when you load it in to the gps, the gps will recalculate it as soon as you activate the route and you end up with the round about route again.

**That looks like fun** · 13th May 2012, 16:28

So converting a route to a track eliminates the GPS recalculating? Advantages vs Disadvantages of route vs track

**Rosie** · 14th May 2012, 09:43

Originally Posted by That looks like fun

So converting a route to a track eliminates the GPS recalculating? Advantages vs Disadvantages of route vs track

When I'm putting something together on the computer, I usually convert it to a track, so I can run it with the topo basemap (which doesn't allow routing).

**Rosie** · 14th May 2012, 10:16

This year the MMMMM is going all technologically advanced, and will have a GPS track as well as a routesheet.

I've only ever made tracks/routes for personal use (Garmin 62s), so have no idea about the best way to make something up for general consumption.

It's basically all on public roads, so I've been putting together a series of routes in basecamp (including one short non-routable section a la Phreaky Phil

).

Now I just need to figure out the best way to package it all up, and want some input from people who have BTDT. Specifically;

- the relative advantages of having it formatted as tracks vs routes

- limitations of other GPS models to keep in mind (max # of points on tracks etc)

- the best way of handling splits in the route (I have two optional longer sections, and it would be nice to have a GPS track for both the long and short versions of each)

- any other traps for young players

As well as the main route(s)/track(s), I thought I might put in the odd waypoint for lunch stops etc. Unless this is likely to initiate the self-destruct sequence in some models of GPS

**cooneyr** · 14th May 2012, 23:38

Originally Posted by Rosie

This year the MMMMM is going all technologically advanced, and will have a GPS track as well as a routesheet.

I've only ever made tracks/routes for personal use (Garmin 62s), so have no idea about the best way to make something up for general consumption.

It's basically all on public roads, so I've been putting together a series of routes in basecamp (including one short non-routable section a la Phreaky Phil

).

Now I just need to figure out the best way to package it all up, and want some input from people who have BTDT. Specifically;

- the relative advantages of having it formatted as tracks vs routes

- limitations of other GPS models to keep in mind (max # of points on tracks etc)

- the best way of handling splits in the route (I have two optional longer sections, and it would be nice to have a GPS track for both the long and short versions of each)

- any other traps for young players

As well as the main route(s)/track(s), I thought I might put in the odd waypoint for lunch stops etc. Unless this is likely to initiate the self-destruct sequence in some models of GPS

For some funny reason I've had a bit of a play at this. I'll get back to you tomorrow sometime - bit late tonight and I've got to jump a red eye flight to Aucks tomorrow.