Crash test dummy: Draggin' Jeans get thumbs down

**puddytat** · 5th March 2010, 15:17

Well, Ive used it all & come to the conclusion that you cant beat a good set of leathers....reason being that leather & its associated armour tends to stay where it should. Whereas with cordura & Draggins there is often minimal or no armour sewn in, & if there is, seeing as they are usually a loose-ish fit it has in my experience rolled around with the material & offered little protection against friction & impact....
Each to there own though.

**Gizzit** · 5th March 2010, 17:49

Originally Posted by rabbai67

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Thanks for your comments. I have always suspected that Kevlar jeans were of minimal use in the event of an accident and you have convinced me. As a city dweller it is a real hassle wearing my textile gear when out and about and I often forgo it for the ease of normal clothes. I guess it is each individuals choice whether they want to take the risk or not ..... (but don't kid your self that reinforced jeans are protecting you any better than standard ones).

I have to disagree with you there mate. Kevlar reinforced jeans, will protect you more from abrasions, than standard denim jeans.

**Genie** · 5th March 2010, 17:54

I'd been thinking about aquiring some of these but not now, will stick with my leathers. I'm not into losing skin!

**carver** · 5th March 2010, 19:20

I wonder how NZ's top spec'd Qmoto gear would have stood up?
better than a "low spec" teknic model?

**Edbear** · 5th March 2010, 20:06

Originally Posted by martybabe

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Great attitude mate!

I expected that kinda result from the draggys, I guess leather is still king eh. I'm quite surprised though, in a century or more of motorcycling that we still haven't bettered dead animal skin as a form of protection.

Good read, glad your not to badly hurt.

Wot he said!

Originally Posted by slowpoke

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This wasn't meant as a bitch about truckies or "woe is me" but just as information for people making decisions about bike gear.

We've all seen the pic or video of the dude being towed on his arse behind another bike whilst wearing Draggin's. That's cool, on fairly cushioned parts of your body they probably work fine. But on area's with high point loadings (high force/sq. inch) like a knee or boney hip they simply don't hold up.

I don't care what anyone else wears, or what abbreviations/acronyms they use, I just thought it might be helpful for people to know how they stood up to a low speed spill. Do with the info what you will.

Good post in the OP, and thanks for posting the experience.

Originally Posted by Horse

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Because nothing says "Kiwibiker" like a sweeping generalisation.... especially if you can sneak a generic putdown in for a twofer.

KB's great for stroking the ego, it's an equal opportunity site...

Originally Posted by Jantar

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After my incident in Australia, the Doctor at Mt Isa hospital who interpreted the scans commented that the muscles had torn exactly where the armour in my jacket was. His comment was that he has seen this before where the armour saves the bones from being broken but grabs and rips the muscle. Bones are much easier to repair than torn tendon.

I have now removed all hard armour from all my gear, and only use soft armour in my kevlar jeans, and sacrificial padding in my leathers.

Interesting, as I haven't bothered to get hard armour, now I have a reason not to...

Originally Posted by Bend-it

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That maybe you should think about taking a taxi, mate!

LOL!!! I sorta thought the same thing the way it came across.

Originally Posted by klingon

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I think the real problem was with the design of the rider. Really it wouldn't have been a problem if you had more padding on your bones to cushion the impact, and more curves to hold your pants up.

As a bonus you would also be better at belly-dancing

and look much more fetching in a skirt.

I doubt it, as I know from falling down stairs that I just don't bounce these days and it really hurts! As for the sight of me in a skirt... Well...

**Gizzit** · 5th March 2010, 20:14

Originally Posted by carver

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I wonder how NZ's top spec'd Qmoto gear would have stood up?
better than a "low spec" teknic model?

That's a very provocative question to pose Mr Carver. What are you possibly implying ???

**carver** · 6th March 2010, 10:52

Originally Posted by Gizzit

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That's a very provocative question to pose Mr Carver. What are you possibly implying ???

me, oh, just wondering where quasi is on a thread like this, he should be here to plug his gear, best in nz ya know!

**Pussy** · 6th March 2010, 11:58

Draggin jeans have marginally more abrasion resistance than lycra.
They're shit

**Crasherfromwayback** · 6th March 2010, 12:33

Originally Posted by Jantar

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After my incident in Australia, the Doctor at Mt Isa hospital who interpreted the scans commented that the muscles had torn exactly where the armour in my jacket was. His comment was that he has seen this before where the armour saves the bones from being broken but grabs and rips the muscle. Bones are much easier to repair than torn tendon.

I have now removed all hard armour from all my gear, and only use soft armour in my kevlar jeans, and sacrificial padding in my leathers.

Armour is a shit idea. That's why decent road racing leathers only ever use high impact foam. But I've crashed in all sorts of gear...and Levis are actually better than people think too! Not that I recommend biffing it in a set. To this day though...I'll still only ever wear a leather jacket...not cordura.

**Okey Dokey** · 6th March 2010, 12:42

Gotta say that the OP was helpful and informative. One person's honest testimonial.

**Gizzit** · 6th March 2010, 13:27

Originally Posted by carver

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me, oh, just wondering where quasi is on a thread like this, he should be here to plug his gear, best in nz ya know!

Is it ..... ?

Wow !!

**carver** · 6th March 2010, 13:30

Originally Posted by Gizzit

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Is it ..... ?

Wow !!

well, so i hear!
2mm cowhide with CE armour!

**Gizzit** · 6th March 2010, 13:49

Originally Posted by carver

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well, so i hear!
2mm cowhide with CE armour!

and ...... stitching ...... ???? with top quality stitching included .... ????? MMMMMmmmm must be good ....... YesireeBob !!

**BikerDazz** · 6th March 2010, 15:18

Originally Posted by Pussy

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Draggin jeans have marginally more abrasion resistance than lycra.
They're shit

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

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Armour is a shit idea. That's why decent road racing leathers only ever use high impact foam. But I've crashed in all sorts of gear...and Levis are actually better than people think too! Not that I recommend biffing it in a set. To this day though...I'll still only ever wear a leather jacket...not cordura.

I mosty wear Levi's and have been looking at getting me some Draggins, but now ... maybe not. Sounds like leathers the way to go. Must give Quasi a call - finally me and Carver agree on something! Although he does suffer an unfortunate foot in mouth problem!