MotoGP 2014

[Mental Trousers]

So the black line on the way in is from the front sledging across the track?

There were 2 or them, 1 from the front and 1 from the back. They cross over at one point so the front was starting to hook up again while the back was heading for the weeds.

[HenryDorsetCase]

there is actually nothing new in that. My favourite motorcycle photo is of Freddie Spencer doing exactly that... pushing the front to scrub speed then using the rear to unweight the front so it grips and steers again and away it goes. Flat track racing background and god-like ability. Of course if it went wrong he saved with his knee, not his elbow..... or shoulder.

I'll see if I can find it.


http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...otorbike-photo

[Grumph]

If he was practising front end slides and it got out of hand it wouldn't be unique...
I remember seeing reports of Lawson - in Yamaha days - practising just that in full view of the pits at i think a french GP....How much of that was necessary practise and how much intimidation of course is open for debate...

[speights_bud]

You dont know what he was doing,we already know he pushes the front like no one else on the way in to the apex,i think he WAS seeing what would happen if he pushed it more,it was a slow corner

Yep, Kinda exactly what I was getting at. Also if we remember back to the Yamaha release that explained how the on board computers work. They are constantly learning and making predictions about next lap on the fly. Analysis of data about lean angles, suspension and wheel speed etc when he does crash like this are going to be crucial to find out where the line is and how to behave when it's crossed. If Honda has that data and can forward engineer with it then perhaps increasing another 1deg of lean angle available to use under braking could be the edge required to win.

Just because crashing is a bad thing during a race it doesn't mean we can't learn from it in a test.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Just because crashing is a bad thing during a race it doesn't mean we can't learn from it in a test.

provided your very expensive and World Championship leading crash test dummy doesn't hurt himself and thereby make the process moot.

[Tazz]

provided your very expensive and World Championship leading crash test dummy doesn't hurt himself and thereby make the process moot.

Fair point, but he also wouldn't be leading if he wasn't someone who pushed the limits to see what he can do.

[pritch]

My favourite motorcycle photo is of Freddie Spencer doing exactly that... pushing the front to scrub speed then using the rear to unweight the front so it grips and steers again and away it goes. Flat track racing background and god-like ability.

I seem to recall reading an interview where Spencer said he practiced riding on wet clay with the front wheel locked. After that the track surface would be easy.

[Reckless]

I seem to recall reading an interview where Spencer said he practiced riding on wet clay with the front wheel locked. After that the track surface would be easy.

That is supposed to be a regular skill to practice on a dirt bike its on a few of the training vids eg Dirt Wise By Shane Watts
Bearing in Mind MM and VR do quite a bit of flat tracking

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mind MM and VR do quite a bit of flat tracking

Don't think VR would be in MM's league when it comes to dirt track.

[pritch]

That is supposed to be a regular skill to practice on a dirt bike its on a few of the training vids eg Dirt Wise By Shane Watts
Bearing in Mind MM and VR do quite a bit of flat tracking

Yeah but flat track and moto X are still not quite as dramatic as wet clay which is about the slipperiest natural surface I can imagine.

Pete, I was a bit disappointed Rossi didn't ride in that Spanish event Marquez organised. Rossi has his own flat track and invites all sorts to ride there so he should be handy. I don't think he'd have finished last.

Just had my exercise for the day - 10m walk to the letter box. There was a big brown parcel, my Baylis book has arrived. It's a large format paperback and it's very ummmm RED. Lots of big photographs, all in colour and almost without exception Ducati. There are some other brands in race scenes but the only picture I've seen featuring a bike other than a Duc is a shot of Mick Doohan on his Honda. Even the road bike shots used to illustrate road bike related text are Ducati.

Too busy today but I hope to get to it soon.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Pete, I was a bit disappointed Rossi didn't ride in that Spanish event Marquez organised. Rossi has his own flat track and invites all sorts to ride there so he should be handy. I don't think he'd have finished last.

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Yeah I've seen Rossi in action at his ranch. For sure her goes well...but MM was footing it with the best in the business, which is...fucked up!

[Vinz0r]

Don't think VR would be in MM's league when it comes to dirt track.

Is that because MM rides a Honda?

[ellipsis]

...this isn't MM practicing more dismounts?...

[Reckless]

...this isn't MM practicing more dismounts?...

Thats gone Viral been everywhere! Bloody lucky aye! Front flip onto the roof of the car you hit
Riding like a jackass not

[roogazza]

Thats gone Viral been everywhere! Bloody lucky aye! Front flip onto the roof of the car you hit
Riding like a jackass not

I was going to put that one up.
Saw it on another site,apparently recorded on a Russian dash cam.
A fine dismount ,I give him a 10 for difficulty.