Cheap Hot Grips.

[nallac]

Well with the cold weather nearly back again, its time to put some hot grips on my new to me bike. Miss them from my old Hornet....Big time......

Do the usual, check T/ME for prices,
And see cycletreads selling Oxford ones for $99 on there,most others are $110+.
Check Cycletreads website and see em advertised for $93,

So seeing as its such a nice fine day(not!)off i pootle to Takas (found my gloves are no longer water proof, would get less water out of a dripping wet sponge!) and pick me up aset for $93 (Price was $110 in shop) as they said they would do the web prices..Cool

Just gotta fit them now.

So if you want a cheap set of Heated grips see Cycletreads and mention there web pricing for a good deal.

[slofox]

I have had two quotes for Oxfords..$119 at one shop $199 at the other.
The second dude reckoned there was "more than one type" of Oxford grip...true or false?
If true, what's the diff?

[BMWST?]

there are some on trademe at the mo for 109,and there is alo a "sport bike" type Both oxford.Seem the same but the sport bike has a different texture,and a different controller.The sport bike ones are 129 .
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Frames/auction-220411779.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Helmets-clothing-footwear/Other/auction-219418637.htm

[nallac]

I've only seen the two different types for bar thickness's, the 1" for cruisers are usualy dearer.
I know that Daytona grips are dearer.

[NighthawkNZ]

I have had two quotes for Oxfords..$119 at one shop $199 at the other.\
The second dude reckoned there were "more than one type" of Oxford grips...true or false?
If true, what's the diff?

True there are as well as the two sizes depending on the bar size. and believe the thicker bar handles are more expensive...

One has a variable dial older model I believe (similar to the Daytona switch) and the other has a electronic switch... then you have a the Overgrips

http://www.oxprod.com/index.php?pg=3&action=dept&id=137&pid=0&p=

[vgcspares]

there were some Oxford cheapies on the market that wrapped around the original grips (secured by velcro) thereby making them much easier to install but the grips fatter .. at the other end there's the usual rubber grip replacement type which if memory serves were twice the price

[Owl]

I have had two quotes for Oxfords..$119 at one shop $199 at the other.\
The second dude reckoned there were "more than one type" of Oxford grips...true or false?
If true, what's the diff?

I've seen standard, sports, ATV and custom "Hot Grips" advertised.

I notice too that the "sports" has the newer grips and latest controller with seperate on-off switch.

[slofox]

Ordered from cycletreads anyway...

The only difference I am aware of is the regulars or the ATV types...the ones CT's are selling are what I want anyway...

Thanks for the input all.

[hayd3n]

hot grips worth the hundred bucks,
even if your gloves leak they will still be warm

[nallac]

the atv/snow mobile ones don't need the xtra throttle side thickness ,no throttle tube, the Oxford ones come with a spacer to suit atv's.

[dpex]

Well with the cold weather nearly back again, its time to put some hot grips on my new to me bike. Miss them from my old Hornet....Big time......

Do the usual, check T/ME for prices,
And see cycletreads selling Oxford ones for $99 on there,most others are $110+.
Check Cycletreads website and see em advertised for $93,

So seeing as its such a nice fine day(not!)off i pootle to Takas (found my gloves are no longer water proof, would get less water out of a dripping wet sponge!) and pick me up aset for $93 (Price was $110 in shop) as they said they would do the web prices..Cool

Just gotta fit them now.

So if you want a cheap set of Heated grips see Cycletreads and mention there web pricing for a good deal.

Five things about these.

1. I've had Oxfords for two seasons. Incredibly good devices. Bought mine from the Honda place up the road from Cycletreads, for 80 bucks at the start of summer.

2. When you install them and first switch on, there is a high likelihood that they won't work and you'll be doing 'fuckin' arsehole speeches to all who may listen. Not so. They have a circuit design which will not enable them to ignite till voltage is at about 13.5. All you do is wind ya bike up a few thou, press and hold the + button till the little blue light comes on, then away you go.

BTW: With your headlight on at idle, unless you have a superb alternator, the sodding thing will not turn on.

3. As I have recently discovered, wet gloves transfer the heat much more rapidly than dry.

4. DO NOT leave them turned on after you turn you bike OFF. Although their start-up voltage is around 13.5, the cut-out is (if memory serves) 11.5. When you battery has sagged to 11.5 you're up for a rolling start.

5. Be real careful, when you install the grips, that they are free to rotate and not caught up on either the inner end the bar or on the counterweight.

I learned this lesson the hard way. :--(((

BTW: The faster you go, the hotter they get.

Fabulous devices. If only I could find something equivalent to fit into my trout-fishing, wader boots.

[SPman]

$129 over here for the current model with electronic switches. I see in March Bike mag, they tested a battery powered electric vest with no wires in it. 4 hrs warmth per charge on or off the bike! Mmmmmmm

[nadroj]

2 x 'D' batteries on beltpack.

[firefighter]

Well with the cold weather nearly back again, its time to put some hot grips on my new to me bike. Miss them from my old Hornet....Big time......

Yeah they're great! One wee issue I find is that when they're on, they heat up to 1000000C, get a bit burny so ya gotta turn them off, then when your hands cool down you turn them back on again......LOL, i'm sure i'm doing something wrong!

[Owl]

2 x 'D' batteries on beltpack.

They'd look a little silly on your hands.:D

[nadroj]

They'd look a little silly on your hands.:D

I was replying to Dpex but Sp beat me...

[BMWST?]

Yeah they're great! One wee issue I find is that when they're on, they heat up to 1000000C, get a bit burny so ya gotta turn them off, then when your hands cool down you turn them back on again......LOL, i'm sure i'm doing something wrong!
which model have you got,ie how many heat/switch positions.Some have a "start" heat which is full power,maybe thats the setting you are on?

[firefighter]

which model have you got,ie how many heat/switch positions.Some have a "start" heat which is full power,maybe thats the setting you are on?

That's them, Daytona I believe, I have had a tinker of-course but found that anything other than start does pretty much nothing/or only heats one grip.....so iv'e just stuck with the whole off and on thing! May have another looksie-when I was playing with the selector I was on the desert road at night, 3 Celcius and was freezing my everything off.....

[Aa7]

i set mine at 100% when i start my bike and warm it up before work and then when i am a few hundred meters to a kilometer away from home drop them back down to 30% (lowest) for the rest of the ride and its ample heat. anything else and it gets too hot. or set to 40% when its raining.

the only problem i've found is that they keep your palms hot and your finger tips not so hot so you tend to grip the bars more than usual when the hot grips are turned on, other than that they are awesome and should be on every bike.

[vifferman]

2. When you install them and first switch on, there is a high likelihood that they won't work and you'll be doing 'fuckin' arsehole speeches to all who may listen. Not so. They have a circuit design which will not enable them to ignite till voltage is at about 13.5. All you do is wind ya bike up a few thou, press and hold the + button till the little blue light comes on, then away you go.
BTW: With your headlight on at idle, unless you have a superb alternator, the sodding thing will not turn on.
Mine work fine all the time.


4. DO NOT leave them turned on after you turn you bike OFF. Although their start-up voltage is around 13.5, the cut-out is (if memory serves) 11.5. When you battery has sagged to 11.5 you're up for a rolling start.

I thought wiring them direct to the battery was dumb - mine are wired to my BlueSea fusebox (which is switched via a relay).


5. Be real careful, when you install the grips, that they are free to rotate and not caught up on either the inner end the bar or on the counterweight.

I cut the end off the throttle grip to make sure this didn't happen - the last few mm don't have any electrical parts in them.


BTW: The faster you go, the hotter they get.

They shouldn't - the voltage shouldn't increase after about 5k rpm, so they're not going to keep getting hotter ad infinitum. Anyway, the windchill factor increases the faster you go, so it's not a big deal. Unless your bike has fairings like the VFR that direct wind away from your hands.

They're very effective; I'm not sure I'd ever use more than the first heat setting. The old heated grips (dunno what brand, probably "OEM" Honda) had an infinitely variable controller, so they were easier to set to a comfy heat.

[Slyer]

How about you grow some nuts and harden the fuck up?

[PirateJafa]

Heated handgrips? Fuck, next you'll be really pussying out and wearing gloves and a jacket to keep warm.

[Gremlin]

Stay away from the "Hot Grips" brand, that has off start and on, they were bloody crap.

Do get the Oxford ones, they're fantastic. The old model had the push button and the button was a dial, the new version has the 4 stages. I think I prefer the old one for ease of use, holding your finger on the + for 3 seconds while riding is more tricky, especially if your finger slips off the button. But the new one takes up less room. Meh, I have one of each, on two bikes.

No idea what the sportbike ones are about.

Mr Slyer... by all means, come for a ride when the ambient temp is less than 6 degrees, not taking wind chill factor into account. :lol:

[Aa7]

the differences between the sports bike grips and the standard oxford grips is only the grip pattern. The originals are more a full rubber sectioned grip while the sports bike ones are a heap of dimpled/raised pyramids forming the grip. both sets use the same switch or so i thought but the sports bike ones dont seem to need to have the switch held down for as long as the originals to function otherwise a great product. the slider grip always seems to heat up ever so slightly quicker than the left grip but i presume it is because it only has to heat a small section of plastic rather than an equal sized part of metal. the difference isnt really noticeable after the initial warm up anyway

[MD]

I'm getting the Oxford Sports grips fitted this week $129.
I've fitted the Daytona brand to previous bikes, they were about $200 several years ago. Daytonas were Ok but my year with the F800S and proper BMW heated grips, showed me how well heated grips should work.

Looking forward to testing them when we get a dry weekend.

[slofox]

With the Oxford grips, did you use the supplied glue or something else? If other, what did you use?

Debating whether to wire them directly to the battery as suggested or through a switched circuit - lights maybe? Any advice?

[nallac]

I used the supplied super glue..takes a while to set properly.Give it 10 minutes before twisting the grips.

I wired to battery to start with to get em going and set up,
then spliced in to the main ignition loop from fuse box as it was next to battery..I don't like the idea of having to switch them off myself
as i know i always forgot on the last bike. Don't want a flat battery after doing a Graveyard shift!.

All up took about 2 hours with taking tank and seat off twice, after changing my mind about wiring position(and forgetting to turn fuel tap back on!!!!)
and knocking on of the grip plugs out..will pay to wrap some insulation tape around connections to save it happening again.

Seem to work well nice 'n' hot,
just don't like the battery saver bit as they don't work with the bike idiling when cold and headlights on...will find out if its better after going for a decent ride to charge the battery up.

[vifferman]

With the Oxford grips, did you use the supplied glue or something else? If other, what did you use?
I test-fitted them first (and tested they worked properly before installing them), and found the left one was OK as it was. The throttle grip was OK too, so I just used a bit of the supplied glue near the inside end of the throttle, in a narrow strip about 2 cm wide.


Debating whether to wire them directly to the battery as suggested or through a switched circuit - lights maybe? Any advice?
I already have an accessory fusebox (BlueSea marine one) under my seat, and the previous hot grips were hooked into that, so I just unhooked those and connected the new ones. I didn't like the idea of having them unswitched. It means there are two fuses (both 5A) as I couldn't be bothered removing the inline one supplied with the grips.

[xwhatsit]

when the ambient temp is less than 6 degrees, not taking wind chill factor into account. :lol:
When it gets that bad I hold my left hand on the cylinder head. However I get to my destination with one toasty-warm (and dry!) left hand, and one sodden numb fingers-about-to-drop-off right hand.

Maybe I should install another throttle on the LHS clipon so I can alternate hands.

I've never tried a bike with heated grips, I've found latex gloves inside your normal gloves keeps my hands pretty warm, even if utterly miserable (although my hands get sweaty). When I get a bike with a bigger alternator might have to give it a whirl.

[nallac]

I've never tried a bike with heated grips, I've found latex gloves inside your normal gloves keeps my hands pretty warm, even if utterly miserable (although my hands get sweaty). When I get a bike with a bigger alternator might have to give it a whirl.


You don't know what you are missing...
you may/get wet hands but at least they are warm..

[Stirts]

Yeah they're great! One wee issue I find is that when they're on, they heat up to 1000000C, get a bit burny so ya gotta turn them off, then when your hands cool down you turn them back on again......LOL, i'm sure i'm doing something wrong!

The element/thermostat thingie inside the grips may be poked by the sounds.

[vifferman]

The element/thermostat thingie inside the grips may be poked by the sounds.
Not necessarily.
On my last pair of grips (dunno the brand/model, but I suspect they were "Honda factory" ones made by Oxford or Daytona), it was easy to get the grips to heat up quickly by turning them on full until they started to feel hottish, then back off the dial to about one-third, which was comfy, and leave it there. On the Oxford Hot Grips, they seem to take a wee while longer to get hot, but even on the lowest heat setting they start to get too hot after a while, and I have to turn them off, then back on again when my hands start to get cool again.
Either they're higher-output elements, or the rubber in the grips conducts heat better.

Disclaimer: My 'winter' gloves (Spidi H2Out) have almost no insulation in them, just the waterproof liner. Proper winter gloves may enable other heat settings to be used comfortably. I like it this way - the VFR's fairing deflects most of the wind away from my hands, so they don't need much heat to keep them warm, and the thinness of the gloves allows me good mobility of my fingers (for operating controls, gesturing at errant motorists, etc.)

[slofox]

I ordered my OXford Grips from Cycletreads late on Monday afternoon. They were waiting for me when I got home on Tuesday - would have been delivered Tuesday morning...now that's fast! Good job, CT's.

[dpex]

2 x 'D' batteries on beltpack.

That was a great lead. It led me to the makers of non-powered infra-red gloves and socks. Thanks for that.

The product is called Prolotex, and for suffering Reynauds, as I do in both hands and feet, they seem like the fab solution.

I shall buy a pair of each and report back.

[nallac]

Now don't ya just love hot grips on a chilly morning,

like on the ride home this morning....well i would've if the bloody things would run with the lights on........Grrrrrrrrrr......

I will have to see what the batterys charging at and see if where i have wired into is getting a full 12volts .

[slofox]

Well...I started the install this morning but actually ran out of time before I had finished.
Getting the old grips off was not too hard although I did end up chopping the throttle grip off to avoid causing grief to the plastic turny bit underneath. I could have got it off with more patience but i was getting fucked off with it all by then...
The clutch side is done - hardest bit was getting the Oxford onto the bar - took flamin' ages, it was sooooo tight a fit. Didn't even glue it in the end - if it gets loose over time, I will glue it then.
The throttle side is going to require some surgery to the plastic turny bit before the grip will go over it - it has a ridge on the outer end that has to come off first according to the man at Boyds...
Initially I have wired it direct to the battery as per install instructions, since I am unsure where to wire it into a switched circuit...any ideas specific to the SVS?? When tested, the grips would not switch on unless the alternator was generating, which is what should happen according to the book.
Worst moment was when I dropped one of the seat retaining screws down into the works of the bike...had to fuck around for ages to get it back out again...hate it when that happens!!!
Try to complete the operation tomorrow...

[MD]

Slofox- after reading your trials and tribulations I'm pleased I got the shop to fit my Oxford sports grip today.
Paying by eftpos...8 seconds. Having a heart attack from the hours of frustration playing mechanic..priceless.

Only a short ride home to test them, but man they felt good. Kicking myself for not fitting them for last winter. Four heat settings, good mounting bracket came with kit and easy to operate on the move. Little lights glow different colours to help you see what level is on (30%40%75% or 100% power).

Much better looking grips and control switch than my previous Daytona hotgrips.

[peasea]

After moving to what can only be described as a cooler climate and having faced a few frosty rides to work already I was thinking about some heated hand grips.

I doubt I'll be thinking about them too much longer. It's coing up the right time for action.

Toward the end of last spring the pecker-park and I went south for a w/e, dork features here took light gloves thinking "it's spring, won't need the h/duty items". Wrong! Had to stop at Inangahua to warm the digits (placed gloves on rocker boxes while doing so). I grabbed the girl's hand grips for a few moments and thought "Hmmm, they're not so gay after all."

Oxfords ya reckon?
Cycletreads ya reckon?

I smell a project coming on.

[BMWST?]

i read somewhere the tail light circuit is a good one to use....will be hot when ign is on ,and the light switch will complete circuit.And only 5w is drawn by taillight.Make sure that it is switched with ign though and dont use the park light one.....

[Mikkel]

Read the thread title as "Cheap Hot Girls". :(

Nothing to see here - just HTFU ;)

[Cheshire Cat]

Read the thread title as "Cheap Hot Girls". :(

Nothing to see here - just HTFU ;)

Thats what I thought it said too:rofl:

[Cheshire Cat]

hot grips worth the hundred bucks,
even if your gloves leak they will still be warm

But do they keep the front of your fingers warm?:confused: Cause thats where the wind is hitting....and eventually they feel like they're going to snap off

[newbould]

But do they keep the front of your fingers warm?

I'm sure expensive hot girls would do that for you.



When fitting bar grips to push bikes we used to add talc to the inside of the grip as a "dry lubricant". Made a very difficult job easy

[Cheshire Cat]

I'm sure expensive hot girls would do that for you.



When fitting bar grips to push bikes we used to add talc to the inside of the grip as a "dry lubricant". Made a very difficult job easy

Haha I'm sure they would :rofl::eek:

[Dschubba]

With the Oxford grips, did you use the supplied glue or something else? If other, what did you use?

Debating whether to wire them directly to the battery as suggested or through a switched circuit - lights maybe? Any advice?
I wired mine thru a relay direct to the battery, and used a feed from the headlights or running lights to switch the relay on.

This was after having about 4 flat batteries when I wired it direct to the battery and assured myself i would remember to turn them off!

[pyrocam]

has anyone come up with a heated clutch for two strokes yet?

[MarkH]

This was after having about 4 flat batteries when I wired it direct to the battery and assured myself i would remember to turn them off!

4? Slow learner?


I wired mine thru a relay direct to the battery, and used a feed from the headlights or running lights to switch the relay on.

That sounds like a good way to do it.

[peasea]

But do they keep the front of your fingers warm?:confused: Cause thats where the wind is hitting....and eventually they feel like they're going to snap off

Snap off? Isn't that a brand of spanner?

[Cheshire Cat]

Snap off? Isn't that a brand of spanner?

It is? :confused: ....thats how my fingers felt at the end of the last long trip I did:(

[peasea]

It is? :confused: ....thats how my fingers felt at the end of the last long trip I did:(

You don't do your own bike servicing, do you cherub?

It's Snap On, I was extracting the urine.

[Cheshire Cat]

You don't do your own bike servicing, do you cherub?

It's Snap On, I was extracting the urine.


No. Not yet, Darling. I've only had it 2 months or so. But I'm learning!

[peasea]

No. Not yet, Darling. I've only had it 2 months or so. But I'm learning!

Good on ya. If you can read get yourself a manual and do it all yourself.

[Cheshire Cat]

Good on ya. If you can read get yourself a manual and do it all yourself.

Heh not much of a reader but mum, her partner and some her friends are into bikes so I'm sorted :D

[peasea]

Heh not much of a reader but mum, her partner and some her friends are into bikes so I'm sorted :D

Grrrr, do it ya bloody self. maybe get some guidance first time out, get the basics and you'll save heaps as well as get to know your bike better.

Knowing your bike is a big part of motorcycling, too many youngsters don't know shit about the mechanics of it and I reckon it makes a big difference to overall attitude.

'Overall' attitude, get it?

OMG, I just fell off my chair again.

[Cheshire Cat]

Grrrr, do it ya bloody self. maybe get some guidance first time out, get the basics and you'll save heaps as well as get to know your bike better.

Knowing your bike is a big part of motorcycling, too many youngsters don't know shit about the mechanics of it and I reckon it makes a big difference to overall attitude.

'Overall' attitude, get it?

OMG, I just fell off my chair again.

:rofl: THOUGHT SO!!!!

Like I said I've only had the bike two months!!! Give me a lil time why don't ya!

[peasea]

:rofl: THOUGHT SO!!!!

Like I said I've only had the bike two months!!! Give me a lil time why don't ya!


Well, you're wasting FRIDAY NIGHT for a start.

Get off the bloody pooter and go polish something.

Sheesh.

[Cheshire Cat]

Well, you're wasting FRIDAY NIGHT for a start.

Get off the bloody pooter and go polish something.

Sheesh.

I'm babysitiing my little brother! Gosh! :p

[peasea]

I'm babysitiing my little brother! Gosh! :p


Cool. Put a beanie on him, give him a polishing rag and fire him off to the garage. That way you can waste your own youth by sitting in front of a monitor.

GO POLISH! That's polish, not Polish. (To go Polish would require a windmill, clogs, pig tails and a dyke. If you can get all of them together I'll bring my video camera.)

[Cheshire Cat]

Cool. Put a beanie on him, give him a polishing rag and fire him off to the garage. That way you can waste your own youth by sitting in front of a monitor.

GO POLISH! That's polish, not Polish. (To go Polish would require a windmill, clogs, pig tails and a dyke. If you can get all of them together I'll bring my video camera.)

haha you lost me *falls off chair*

[hayd3n]

But do they keep the front of your fingers warm?:confused: Cause thats where the wind is hitting....and eventually they feel like they're going to snap off

naa still warm just get better gloves aswell

[hayd3n]

I'm sure expensive hot girls would do that for you.




i like the way your thinking

[peasea]

i like the way your thinking

I don't, I think it's smutty and should cease forthwith.

No smut on kb, you'll get us all shot.

[Cheshire Cat]

naa still warm just get better gloves aswell

I have.They still get cold.Not AS cold though.


I don't, I think it's smutty and should cease forthwith.

No smut on kb, you'll get us all shot.

Agreed!:2guns:

[slofox]

I wired mine thru a relay direct to the battery, and used a feed from the headlights or running lights to switch the relay on.



Sorta like this? (http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/generic/relay.php)

[slofox]

Finally completed the whole exercise...set up an auxiliary circuit set as per the post above (here) (http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/generic/relay.php). I now have six outlets to plug auxiliary doodads into, all switched via the relay and hidden away under the seat. Powered the relay from the minor lighting circuit (after fucking around with those stupid wire tap thingies for about ten years...) - number plate etc - if it blows and there is no number plate light, well hey, what a shame...:devil2:
Took the test ride and all works well. Nothing blew up. Amazing.