View Full Version : Oil change, oil filter, air filter - When?
Midget200
29th May 2009, 08:39
How often should I be cleaning my air filter? Also how often should I change the oil and oil filter to ensure that the bike maintenance is premo!
barty5
29th May 2009, 08:46
Everyone is different myself i do oil and filter every 5 hrs max but then i dont pay for the oil and the filters are cheap or washable. Airfilter i was every ride.
Crisis management
29th May 2009, 08:46
If you need to ask the question the answer is probably today!
Air filter after every ride, oil and filters refer to your owners manual or someone that actually knows something about CRFs.
Easy to do tho and it doesn't take long.
4stroke
29th May 2009, 18:43
How often should I be cleaning my air filter? Also how often should I change the oil and oil filter to ensure that the bike maintenance is premo!
im sure tuna will have been in your ear about cleanleness of air filters, for me air filter after every ride, oil and filter every second ride, or 5 hours which ever is first.
Midget200
29th May 2009, 18:55
im sure tuna will have been in your ear about cleanleness of air filters, for me air filter after every ride, oil and filter every second ride, or 5 hours which ever is first.
Thanks for that. Yeah I know, I know! I haven't done them myself, and now want to start! Hate the fact that there's 2 different types of oil and not keen on all that mess! Got my rubber gloves ready!!! I've also got the manual to read!
Sammikins
29th May 2009, 18:58
Thanks for that. Yeah I know, I know! I haven't done them myself, and now want to start! Hate the fact that there's 2 different types of oil and not keen on all that mess! Got my rubber gloves ready!!! I've also got the manual to read!
Easy peazy, turn up at Barty5's workshop on rebuilds night, go OMG I don't know what to do, and it will be sorted within 10 minutes!!!!!
BBikeRR
29th May 2009, 19:26
I change my oil every 3,000 kms
cs363
29th May 2009, 19:27
Like the others have said, air filter after every ride, oil & filter (stainless steel washable ones are the go, but get a good quality one) and don't forget to change the gearbox oil occasionally too.
Midget200
29th May 2009, 20:22
Like the others have said, air filter after every ride, oil & filter (stainless steel washable ones are the go, but get a good quality one) and don't forget to change the gearbox oil occasionally too.
Okay showing my ignorance now! You said gearbox oil! So I know it needs 2 types of oil! So does 1 lot not have to be changed as much as the other? Geez this is hard! Wonder if my local garage does oil changes for bikes - hmm!
YellowDog
29th May 2009, 20:30
The oil changes are easy and documented in your manual.
And no the engine oil is not the same oil as in the gearbox.
A lot of air filters are cleanable rather than needing changing so regularly.
SpikedPunch
29th May 2009, 20:36
Okay showing my ignorance now! You said gearbox oil! So I know it needs 2 types of oil! So does 1 lot not have to be changed as much as the other? Geez this is hard! Wonder if my local garage does oil changes for bikes - hmm!
You've got the oil that goes on the air filter (spray on stuff is the easiest) usually blue or red and hellishly sticky, and gearbox oil that keeps your clutch all nice and wet - goopy gold coloured stuff :) If it's milky or has bits of clutch in it it's probably time for a change :eek:
I do my air filter about every three rides or more often if it's really dirty. Bit slack :shit: And do the oil when it looks like it needs doing :p It's real basic once you've done it once. Just don't strip any bolts and you're sweet.
Midgets bike has seperate gear box and crank case oil.. Honda four strokes run two different oils. how ever its pretty easy Midget im sure you can do it!
4stroke
29th May 2009, 20:47
yeah they easy as to do, i ran motul trans oil for my honda and 5100 for the engine, easy peezy midge,
Midget200
29th May 2009, 21:02
Midgets bike has seperate gear box and crank case oil.. Honda four strokes run two different oils. how ever its pretty easy Midget im sure you can do it!
Well I'm sure it's easy peasy! With all the helpful advice provided I will make sure Monday is put aside for my big adventure! I have the manual ready! Even have purchased a pourer/measurer thingo and a container thingo!
Like your description Spiked Punch, have bought 4 air filters, sticky oil and will have them all lined up to change each time I ride!
cs363
29th May 2009, 21:10
Well I'm sure it's easy peasy! With all the helpful advice provided I will make sure Monday is put aside for my big adventure! I have the manual ready! Even have purchased a pourer/measurer thingo and a container thingo!
Like your description Spiked Punch, have bought 4 air filters, sticky oil and will have them all lined up to change each time I ride!
Ah....that was my next question - whether you had the original Honda service manual that came with the bike. As it sounds like you do, just refer to pages 43 through 48 for your engine & gearbox oil change (and coolant check). Also make sure you are running a mix of anti-freeze (most people tend to run 50/50 mix with water unless you are using a premixed coolant) to keep the boiling point down and corrosion at bay. Usually the coolant should be a bright green colour (though some are red or blue) if it looks dirty or cloudy it would pay to flush the coolant system and change the coolant. (page 48-51)
Pay attention to the manuals procedure for checking the oil levels as it's easy to overfill if you're not careful.
You can buy specific oil for the gearbox otherwise just use the same 10w/40 oil (high quality) in engine and g/box.
Good luck with your service! :)
Midget200
29th May 2009, 21:15
Ah....that was my next question - whether you had the original Honda service manual that came with the bike. As it sounds like you do, just refer to pages 43 through 48 for your engine & gearbox oil change 9and coolant check). Also make sure you are running a mix of anti-freeze (most people tend to run 50/50 mix with water unless you are using a premixed coolant) to keep the boiling point down and corrosion at bay. Usually the coolant should be a bright green colour (though some are red or blue) if it looks dirty or cloudy it would pay to flush the coolant system and change the coolant. (page 48-51)
Pay attention to the manuals procedure for checking the oil levels as it's easy to overfill if you're not careful.
You can buy specific oil for the gearbox otherwise just use the same 10w/40 oil (high quality) in engine and g/box.
Good luck with your service! :)
OH SHIT!!!!!:shit:
cs363
29th May 2009, 21:19
OH SHIT!!!!!:shit:
:confused: ?? Didn't scare ya did I? :)
B0000M
30th May 2009, 09:27
I change my oil every 3,000 kms
in dirt bike terms, thats about 50-100 hours.
if we changed our oil after 100 hours id hate to see what would happen
should we keep posting irrelvant things? or maybe stick to areas where we have something useful to offer
You've got the oil that goes on the air filter (spray on stuff is the easiest) usually blue or red and hellishly sticky, and gearbox oil that keeps your clutch all nice and wet - goopy gold coloured stuff :) If it's milky or has bits of clutch in it it's probably time for a change :eek:
I do my air filter about every three rides or more often if it's really dirty. Bit slack :shit: And do the oil when it looks like it needs doing :p It's real basic once you've done it once. Just don't strip any bolts and you're sweet.
Air filter is every ride mate, don't be slack it will cost you in the long run.
ATF is a cheaper option for 2stroke trans fluid, then change every third ride rather than wait for milky colour (thats not good).
Midget200
30th May 2009, 18:31
Air filter is every ride mate, don't be slack it will cost you in the long run.
ATF is a cheaper option for 2stroke trans fluid, then change every third ride rather than wait for milky colour (thats not good).
Yeah thanks for all the information, it's all good! I will be doing the operation tomorrow! Oh buggar, it's the City Scramble! After the City Scramble. Have the rubber gloves ready! Geez men are good for something! Where is one when you really need them!!!!!
krad_nz
1st June 2009, 22:18
Yeah thanks for all the information, it's all good! I will be doing the operation tomorrow! Oh buggar, it's the City Scramble! After the City Scramble. Have the rubber gloves ready! Geez men are good for something! Where is one when you really need them!!!!!
Hahah, how did it go?
Midget200
2nd June 2009, 13:26
Hahah, how did it go?
OH buggar! Went to Fells Farm to watch and haven't done the oil change as yet! My bike will just fall apart! I have the manual! I will do it before my next ride! I think it would be easier to pay someone!!!!:Punk:
Cr1MiNaL
3rd June 2009, 13:08
Zomg I've been changing my gearbox oil on my little 2 smoker every ride, until someone said I didnt need to ... now its every 3 rides.... air filer gets cleaned every ride religiously. Is it weird that my dirt bike looks as clean as my road bike. We've got 3 dirt bikes in the garage and my one is shiney :) even the rims and spokes hehe.
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