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Microman171
31st May 2009, 19:36
Hey,

I am interested in starting motocross, but I've never ridden a bike before.

My parents are reluctant to buy me a bike until I've given the sport a go first. How can I do that? How do I learn to ride a bike, without my own bike?

I have been driving a car for a while now, so I know all about shifting gears and stuff. I also know how to ride a push bike, so balance shouldn't be an issue.

I live in the Waikato area, and know of the Tokoroa track, but I have no idea where it is... I also know where the Tauranga, (Ohauiti), track is, but again don't know anything about it.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,

MM

honda_power
31st May 2009, 19:45
Where abouts in the Waikato are you and how old are you?

Microman171
31st May 2009, 19:49
Do you know where Matamata is?

I'm 15, I hear it is too late to start... But I'm not looking to be world class, I just want to have a good time.

B0000M
31st May 2009, 19:53
never too late to start dude.

could go to thnder park in west nowhere somewhere near huntly kinda.... (sorry)

they hire out bikes and gear

Microman171
31st May 2009, 20:01
Wow =), great forum. It's been 30mins and I've already got two posts!

My dad also liked the idea of hiring a bike. Can you get more details? I did a quick google for thunder park and didn't find anything...

Huntly isn't too far either, it's about 1 and a bit hours from where I am.

Here's the big kick in the guts... I live in the middle of town! Good news is my mum has friends who live on a farm (this is the Waikato after all).

I've been looking at trademe for bikes too. We aren't the richest people, and springing 1000 - 2000 bucks is a bit high... I have found a semi-pricey bike, a 1988 Honda CR125 for $900. It's in good condition, and has recently had a new clutch put in. Problem is I have to get all the safety gear too... Expensive sport, but parents say it will be okay.

I would really love a Yamaha YZ125...! Sounds like it is a great bike!

B0000M
31st May 2009, 21:34
without bursting your bubble too much, dirt bikes are not a cheap sport.

and unfortunately buying a cheap bike is not always a cheap thing to do.

especially as this is your first bike, and youve given the impression you arent a bike experience guy in your first post- i VERY STRONGLY reccommend taking someone with you who is experienced with bikes to go and look at bikes with you.

as a guy who does a fair bit of riding, i can tell you that things can and do break and wear out continually.

its good that you're into 2 strokes, as these are much more suitable for someone on a buget, rebuilds are cheaper, and 125 parts seem to be relatively cheap.

hopefully either you or someone you are good friends with is fairly mechanical and has a reasonable set of tools.

without trying to put you off, factor into your spending the following

probably a minimum of $600 worth of riding gear - good helmet, boots, armour of some sort, goggles, gloves, and at least a set of knee pads. i can tell you first hand that broken knees are no fun.

to run your bike you will need to be using at least 95 octane pump gas, along with a good 2 stroke mixing oil. 4 litres of castrol TTS is the most cost effective way of purchasing this, and its $85 a bottle from super cheap.

for every 10 litres of fuel, you will be using $5.30 worth of oil, which makes for $22 for every 10 litres. including fuel at $1.75 per litre.

fortunately with 2 strokes thats it for engine oil, and no filters are needed either for oil. you still have the trans oil, usually around 700ml per change, and an oil change should be done every 10 hours at the longest. around $8 worth of auto trans fluid each time.

top end kits, which on a 125 should be done in my opinion at least every 50 hours will probably set you back around $180 each time.

now im not trying to put you off, but i've had mates who couldnt really afford to run bikes, and its ended badly each time, likewise trying to do things on the cheap always ends up more expensive. bear this in mind.

to conclude, riding bikes is not cheap, and you sortof have to go all in or nothing, so getting yourself an after school job to fund your sport is probably going to be a must, unless you have very generous parents.

id also suggest spending a bit more on the bike initially and trying to get something from this millenium or at least a 98 or 99.




you will find info about thunder in the "places to ride" thread up the top of the off road forum here on kb


another cheaper option for having a go, is talk friendly to some of the locals or jafas and one of them might let you have a bit fo a go on one of their bikes


good luck!

Microman171
31st May 2009, 21:59
I understand what you are saying, and I'll have to pass that on.

It looks like it will cost more than I thought... A job will surly be a must, but that will leave me with little time to ride...? I get home from school at about 4:30. A job at somewhere like New World of the Warehouse I suppose...

My mum reckons they will pay for parts, but I will see what she thinks AFTER I tell her the cost.

I wasn't expecting the gear to cost so much, I was thinking second hand for the most part. New goggles and a new helmet.

Do these bikes use much fuel? The way you added it up made it look like fuel wont be a problem =)

honda_power
31st May 2009, 22:05
never too late. seeing as your in the waikato your welcome to meet me at a mx track some time and have a blast on my yz250 if you cant find a bike more suitable for a first-timer

iv seen that cr... it looks pretty fucked. old mx bikes = trouble

flyingcr250
31st May 2009, 22:09
I understand what you are saying, and I'll have to pass that on.

It looks like it will cost more than I thought... A job will surly be a must, but that will leave me with little time to ride...? I get home from school at about 4:30. A job at somewhere like New World of the Warehouse I suppose...

My mum reckons they will pay for parts, but I will see what she thinks AFTER I tell her the cost.

I wasn't expecting the gear to cost so much, I was thinking second hand for the most part. New goggles and a new helmet.

Do these bikes use much fuel? The way you added it up made it look like fuel wont be a problem =)

yea mate a job would definatley help, atleast then you can pay for the smaller things yourself like oils, fuel, entry fees for bike parks, also helps take the pressure off mum and dad. etc...

as for the gear i would suggest spending a bit on a good helmet (its your head after all) and some decent boots, things like armour you can pick up 2nd hand..

B0000M
31st May 2009, 22:09
on a typical day riding i'd go through about 15 litres on my old CR125.

as the old saying goes, nothing is more 2nd hand than a 2nd hand dirt bike

Microman171
31st May 2009, 22:23
It does...? It looked find to my inexperienced eyes...

Flying CR250, that sounds like a good way of doing things. Living in a small town during the recession makes it a little hard to get a job... I was thinking of saving my money from holiday jobs.

YZ250 eh? Sounds pretty big =)

Can someone tell me more of what I need?

So far I know this:
Safety Gear:
Helmet
Goggles
Boots
Knee Brace
Body Armour
Kidney Belt
Gloves
MX Jersey
Pants

I am defiantly mechanically inclined. I haven't actually worked on any engines before though... I pick things up quick.

What do you actually do for maintenance...? All I know is you clean the air filter every ride or two, you oil the chain (before every practice?).

Thanks for helping out a prospective newbie =)

Dan

laserracer
31st May 2009, 22:24
Hi microman171 we have 2 x bikes my yz426 and my sons yz250, we are in hamilton, he has just raced his first ever mx race last sunday with the cambridge mx club was very wet but he loved it, he started riding about 18months ago and like you had never riden a bike..we brought him a klx300 kawasaki trail bike to learn on and after a while he started to improve to a point where he was confident enough to ride in organised trail rides .. he soon found the klx to slow so we brought the yz 250..i think its best to start slow and build your way up with both the bikes and the riding..If you need a hand looking at bikes i am more than willing to have a look with you and check them out
cheers Dave

flyingcr250
31st May 2009, 22:28
It does...? It looked find to my inexperienced eyes...

Flying CR250, that sounds like a good way of doing things. Living in a small town during the recession makes it a little hard to get a job... I was thinking of saving my money from holiday jobs.

YZ250 eh? Sounds pretty big =)

Can someone tell me more of what I need?

So far I know this:
Safety Gear:
Helmet
Goggles
Boots
Knee Brace
Body Armour
Kidney Belt
Gloves
MX Jersey
Pants

I am defiantly mechanically inclined. I haven't actually worked on any engines before though... I pick things up quick.

What do you actually do for maintenance...? All I know is you clean the air filter every ride or two, you oil the chain (before every practice?).

Thanks for helping out a prospective newbie =)

Dan


yea most of us work to ride. i know i do lol:niceone:

Microman171
31st May 2009, 23:23
Wow! You guys sure are generous =).

I would love to have a test ride on a proper track somewhere, but it would need to have some good flats to start out on.

Anyone have a YZ125? I was thinking of starting with a 125 of some kind.

honda_power
31st May 2009, 23:31
It does...? It looked find to my inexperienced eyes...

Flying CR250, that sounds like a good way of doing things. Living in a small town during the recession makes it a little hard to get a job... I was thinking of saving my money from holiday jobs.

YZ250 eh? Sounds pretty big =)

Can someone tell me more of what I need?

So far I know this:
Safety Gear:
Helmet
Goggles
Boots
Knee Brace
Body Armour
Kidney Belt
Gloves
MX Jersey
Pants

I am defiantly mechanically inclined. I haven't actually worked on any engines before though... I pick things up quick.

What do you actually do for maintenance...? All I know is you clean the air filter every ride or two, you oil the chain (before every practice?).

Thanks for helping out a prospective newbie =)

Dan

You dont need all that. I ride with boots, gloves and a 2nd hand taped up fly helmet. Not saying you should, But helmet googles gloves and boots are all you need to start.

Through school I had a milking job in weekends and holidays. Parents never supported my riding... at your age I managed to buy a 02 rm125 and pay for gas and maintance. Its not that hard.

Microman171
31st May 2009, 23:38
You're a genius!

Milking job... I may be able to get a job at the farm in town I wanna practice.

I want to get a NEW helmet, it's my head... Very important to me =). Knee brace, if I fall and break my knee, I will wish I had bought one.

I don't think I will need the pants and shirt too much. But what about roost flying into me?

honda_power
31st May 2009, 23:44
just make sure your in front of everyone :P

your not gonna jump straight into racing so roost is not gonna be an issue straight away. Its gonna take a while seeing as youve never ridden before.

As for to late to be good... rubbish. Joel Smets started riding at 18

The milking jobs are good eh... theres allways heaps of farmers wanting cheap relief milking... and as long as your willing to get up a bit earlier it makes great money... and the best part is, when you do get a bike you just milk the mornings, giving you the rest of the day to ride!

laserracer
1st June 2009, 09:44
MMMM Are you talking knee brace or knee pads .. unless you have a specific knee problem i would just stick with a pair of knee pads for starters, knee braces are very expensive.. we usually dont wear any unless its very dry and rocky or are carrying injuries

Microman171
1st June 2009, 10:12
I was talking knee brace, but I still don't know what I do and don't need.

My Dad has given me what I think is the headshake. Maybe they will buy me the bike, and I'll pay for everything else...

My Maintenance list so far is:

Fuel
Two Stroke Oil
Transmission Oil
Air Filters
Top End Kits


What else? I want to be able to price everything up before I start, that way I can see how much it's going to cost.

I'd love to give someone else's bike a go, does anyone have a 125 of some style, good for learners?

For my first bike, how does a YZ125 sound?

honda_power
1st June 2009, 10:24
125's have no low end power, they are all or nothing type bikes. To get them to go anywhere you have to clutch them all the time and keep them screaming. You cant putt around on them. But you should be sweet if you get a newer model

Microman171
1st June 2009, 10:33
YZ 125 2001?

A different kind of bike to start with?

I just really like the look of the YZs, great bikes!

flyingcr250
1st June 2009, 10:42
YZ 125 2001?

A different kind of bike to start with?

I just really like the look of the YZs, great bikes!

i think you should be fine with a 2001 if its in not too bad condition. i had a 2001 CR250 which was a real reliable bike.

Microman171
1st June 2009, 11:01
Being a 15 year old, how is a 125cc for starters? Do you need height and weight to figure anything out?

I found a damned good condition 2001 YZ125 on trademe for $1500

flyingcr250
1st June 2009, 11:26
Being a 15 year old, how is a 125cc for starters? Do you need height and weight to figure anything out?

I found a damned good condition 2001 YZ125 on trademe for $1500

in my opinion i think its better to start on a bigger bike especially if your on a tight budget. my first bike was a 1993 cr250 when i was 16 and since then ive only ridden 250's and higher, its easier to go slow on a bigger bike and grow into it rather than grow out of a smaller bike and end up having to replace it with something bigger. but a 125 should last you a few years. are you able to post a link to the trademe auction??

Microman171
1st June 2009, 11:31
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-220995319.htm

How much per week / per month does this sport cost?

flyingcr250
1st June 2009, 11:42
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-220995319.htm

How much per week / per month does this sport cost?

depends if your racing or just a weekend rider.

my costs per month:

pre-mix oil $35
fuel for bike $50-60
gear box oil $35
entry fee for rides and bike parks $100-$140
airfilter oil $8
i use the best oils which is why they are so expensive, it pays to use a good quality synthetic pre-mix oil.

general maintenance like topends, wheel bearings, swingarm bearing, steering head bearings etc.. is a bit harder to price.

EDIT: those prices were for me riding every weekend in a month.

Microman171
1st June 2009, 12:18
So, say I wanted to be a weekend rider, (and maybe some week days in the holidays), how often would I need to replace those other parts? Bearings, top ends, etc... because $280 something a month is defiantly do-able.

flyingcr250
1st June 2009, 12:27
So, say I wanted to be a weekend rider, (and maybe some week days in the holidays), how often would I need to replace those other parts? Bearings, top ends, etc... because $280 something a month is defiantly do-able.

usually ill pull my bike down every 6 months and check and grease all the bearings, you should get quite a while out of your wheel bearings and steering head bearings as long as your carefull with the way you wash your bike (like not pointing the waterblaster directly at the seals etc..)and keep them greased. as for top ends im not sure about the 125's but i did a topend on my CR250 every 50-70 hours of riding time. a motominder is a good way to keep track of hours or runtime. most of them are cheap too.

Microman171
1st June 2009, 12:54
After a bit more research/reading peoples replies. I have decided to try out Trail Biking first.

I just hope I can go fast, and go over some jumps =)

I will move onto motocross later, maybe.

KX500
1st June 2009, 12:56
Crikey glad I live in the south $100 - $140 for a bike park LMFAO

We have heaps of free riding areas 10 mins from Christchurch.

Riding can cost you as much or as little as you like. The organised trail rides
are around $30 to $40 here in Canterbury and will probably do one some day but mates and I have a hell of a lot of fun down at the Waimak tracks the council have built, Mc Cleans Island etc.

Cut your teeth with trail riding and build up your protection gear for motocross at the same time.

The YZ on traders at $1500 is the starting bid, like others have said a 250 be the gooooooo, top end power band on 125 less controllable for a beginner than 250 over rev range.

If you can pick up an old XL or XR to learn the ropes you will be able to sell it very easy, four strokes great bikes to learn to ride on ...... control !

And yep as wisely said when you go to buy your 2 stroke check out the swing arm bearing, wheel bearing, brake pads and discs, head bearing etc etc etc etc _ I learnt the hard way buying the 500 off trade me, the advert
seemed genuine and the guy selling it when he was on the phone ....... blown crank seals, no back brakes, rusted out swing arm bearing, worn brake discs ........ bike parts are expensive and before you know it your 15 year old has cost you as much as a new one - "I kid you not"

flyingcr250
1st June 2009, 13:00
After a bit more research/reading peoples replies. I have decided to try out Trail Biking first.

I just hope I can go fast, and go over some jumps =)

I will move onto motocross later, maybe.

speed will come with experience and confidence. dont be discouraged if you cant stay on the bike all the time or if your getting passed all the time. weve all been there before. just get out and ride as much as you can afford, people from this site are alway offering ways to get to bike parks and trail rides if your parents are too busy to take you. look at here for upcomming trailrides etc...

http://silverbullet.co.nz/events.php

Microman171
1st June 2009, 14:00
Hopefully I can find some good tracks in the Waikato.

That's a good way of putting it, building up my gear for MX.

What I want to know is, Can I pull of wicked jumps on trails...? I'm not meaning the full supercross style jumps, just a bit of air...

That would be good to be able to get around... My parents say they don't mind, but my sister plays soccer in the Bay. Are you saying there would be people able to pick me up...?

Great Community I've found =)

laserracer
1st June 2009, 14:28
YEAH.. sure ..you will find people will give you a ride to events ,if you have a bike, and they have space on there trailer

laserracer
1st June 2009, 14:30
Hopefully I can find some good tracks in the Waikato.

That's a good way of putting it, building up my gear for MX.

What I want to know is, Can I pull of wicked jumps on trails...? I'm not meaning the full supercross style jumps, just a bit of air...

That would be good to be able to get around... My parents say they don't mind, but my sister plays soccer in the Bay. Are you saying there would be people able to pick me up...?

Great Community I've found =)

Why are you worrying about pulling off wicked jumps when in your first post you say you cant even ride a bike ?

4stroke
1st June 2009, 14:31
normally theres natural rolling jumps on trail rides and trails, some resonable and some fairly good with enuff speed on. im sure theres a few guys in the waikato who will teach you a thing or 2 about riding and bike mataince.

Microman171
1st June 2009, 14:40
Why are you worrying about pulling off wicked jumps when in your first post you say you cant even ride a bike ?

Because they look so cool! :-P

I wasn't talking about my first ride... Just eventually.


YEAH.. sure ..you will find people will give you a ride to events ,if you have a bike, and they have space on there trailer

That's great!

honda_power
1st June 2009, 18:23
Because they look so cool! :-P

I wasn't talking about my first ride... Just eventually.



That's great!

Whatawhata mx track. Its a hillbilly as track thats been carved into a gully. $10 to ride all day. I know the owner well and he lets us use his digger and build whatever we want... so there are some larger jumps on it. They are totally aviodable for beginners though. There are little jumps as well.

Pics: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=97949

This is where i ride most weekends.
Has an easy track that pretty much anyone can do

flyingcr250
1st June 2009, 21:25
Whatawhata mx track. Its a hillbilly as track thats been carved into a gully. $10 to ride all day. I know the owner well and he lets us use his digger and build whatever we want... so there are some larger jumps on it. They are totally aviodable for beginners though. There are little jumps as well.

Pics: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=97949

This is where i ride most weekends.
Has an easy track that pretty much anyone can do

i live so close to that track yet ive never been, ill have to give it a go when my bike gets here.

honda_power
1st June 2009, 21:27
i live so close to that track yet ive never been, ill have to give it a go when my bike gets here.

Have you sorted your ride?

flyingcr250
1st June 2009, 21:34
Have you sorted your ride?

looks like it. 2008 ktm 300. 39 hours from new, owned by an older rider.(arent they all lol). just gotta give him 3 more g's then it has to be trucked up from otago of all places lol, cant wait.

DELLORTO
1st June 2009, 21:35
Because they look so cool! :-P

I wasn't talking about my first ride... Just eventually.



That's great!

jumps are cool....but you have to have the right bike or your just asking for trouble

if i was you i wouldnt go hear an old 125 2 smoker, {ive had one and there alot of trouble} id go for a xr200 or xr250 until your budget is bigger

Microman171
1st June 2009, 21:39
XR200 seems to be what everyone suggests. If I was to take this to a MX track, what would I do to the bike in a bad way? I'm not going to for a while, but I'm just wondering.

In other words, what happens when you use a trail bike on an MX track?

Also, before my parents will buy me a bike, I have to have a test ride. Would anyone be willing to let me have a go? Keep in mind I have never ridden a bike before...

DELLORTO
1st June 2009, 21:46
XR200 seems to be what everyone suggests. If I was to take this to a MX track, what would I do to the bike in a bad way? I'm not going to for a while, but I'm just wondering.

In other words, what happens when you use a trail bike on an MX track?

Also, before my parents will buy me a bike, I have to have a test ride. Would anyone be willing to let me have a go? Keep in mind I have never ridden a bike before...

mx tracks are bloody scary....i had been riding for over 2 years when i first set foot on a mx track {ardmore} and too be honset it was way scary, because there was 450's and big bikes flying every where....you'd be asking for trouble if you set foot on a mx track right away.......ride around and get used to bikes for a about a year before you start racing around and jumping

this may sound boring but ive seem some novies have some pretty bad crashes due to there lack of expirience

Microman171
1st June 2009, 21:51
mx tracks are bloody scary....i had been riding for over 2 years when i first set foot on a mx track {ardmore} and too be honset it was way scary, because there was 450's and big bikes flying every where....you'd be asking for trouble if you set foot on a mx track right away.......ride around and get used to bikes for a about a year before you start racing around and jumping

this may sound boring but ive seem some novies have some pretty bad crashes due to there lack of expirience

When I ready to have a go, like after I've learnt to ride, and done a bunch of trails. Will it damage the bike? Or just not be as good...?

At the moment I am keen to just learn to ride and have some fun =)

DELLORTO
1st June 2009, 21:55
thats the spirit:niceone: you need to tell me that some times.....:clap:

at the schools mx champs a guy was getting about 5 feet of air on a xr250 so that shows its about the rider......but i think he was just realy realy good


heres what you should do,

get a xr250 and gear, ride it for about a year going around trails ect and whille you doing that save for a better bike and after a year sell the xr250 and buy a 250 mx'er :clap:

flyingcr250
1st June 2009, 21:59
When I ready to have a go, like after I've learnt to ride, and done a bunch of trails. Will it damage the bike? Or just not be as good...?

At the moment I am keen to just learn to ride and have some fun =)

i learned to ride on a mx track. not just any mx track it was kimmys the most bumpy spot on earth. my riding progressed alot quicker than that of my mates who didnt ride mx tracks. i just rolled over all the jumps to start with, then when i got more confident i cleared one jump the two then the rest.
heres a link for kimmys. its all up to you though. if it was me id be getting a mx bike.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAMcgp6SGPo

kezzafish
1st June 2009, 22:00
the fact that it's a trail bike won't cause damage at your level. It's more likely to cause damage due to it being an old dunger. But by the time you have the nut's to jump table tops you'll be hankerin for somethin better/newer than an XR200... i'm not dissing this bike tho as i recon it's a much better starting bike than a 125.

My first bike was an XL200, she was phat... i still had it a couple years ago sitting at my parents house but they kept telling me to get rid of it and i kept ignoring them so they sold it for $20 dollars at a garage sale... that was the fucking sale of the century mate... you shoulda been there to reap the benefits... i was furious.

You'd find an oldie that runs for a few hundred dollars... that's the route i'd be taking if i were in your position... you're more likely to find one through word of mouth than trade me... talk to some farmers etc, or get your local trading post/newspaper

flyingcr250
1st June 2009, 22:03
the fact that it's a trail bike won't cause damage at your level. It's more likely to cause damage due to it being an old dunger. But by the time you have the nut's to jump table tops you'll be hankerin for somethin better/newer than an XR200... i'm not dissing this bike tho as i recon it's a much better starting bike than a 125.

My first bike was an XL200, she was phat... i still had it a couple years ago sitting at my parents house but they kept telling me to get rid of it and i kept ignoring them so they sold it for $20 dollars at a garage sale... that was the fucking sale of the century mate... you shoulda been there to reap the benefits... i was furious.

You'd find an oldie that runs for a few hundred dollars... that's the route i'd be taking if i were in your position... you're more likely to find one through word of mouth than trade me... talk to some farmers etc, or get your local trading post/newspaper

ha ha ha i ha an old XT200 which i slid off the back of and burnt my new pants id saved up all my lawnmowing money for on the exhaust.:spanking:

Microman171
1st June 2009, 22:03
thats the spirit:niceone: you need to tell me that some times.....:clap:

at the schools mx champs a guy was getting about 5 feet of air on a xr250 so that shows its about the rider......but i think he was just realy realy good


heres what you should do,

get a xr250 and gear, ride it for about a year going around trails ect and whille you doing that save for a better bike and after a year sell the xr250 and buy a 250 mx'er :clap:

Sounds like a plan mate =) Depending on what I can afford / find it will be either a XR200 or XR250

Microman171
1st June 2009, 22:12
Word of mouth eh...?

You reckon I'd find a seller on here? :bleh:

Far out! $20. Harsh!

I'm really looking forward to this, just need to convince my parents to buy me one. They were really keen a week ago...

honda_power
1st June 2009, 22:15
xrs are bloody heavy. If your planning on jumping, forget it. They just arnt made for it. I know, iv killed a few similar bikes back in the day. But if you want a reliable TRAIL bike, then they are sweet.

So basically, are you the type of guy who trys to push limits and would be getting airborn very soon? - 125

Or the type thats content putting around trails and paddoks at your own speed, just for a bit of fun?

You must have had a shit 125 DELLORTO. Iv had one and know a few people with them and none of us ever had problems.


nice flyingcr. seen that one on trademe. looks pretty clean.

flyingcr250
1st June 2009, 22:24
nice flyingcr. seen that one on trademe. looks pretty clean.


yea its probably a bit on the pricey side, but at least the shipping is included in the price.:niceone:

id go with an mxer, fourstrokes are dumb lol. (whos gunna bite??? jt??)

Microman171
1st June 2009, 22:28
xrs are bloody heavy. If your planning on jumping, forget it. They just arnt made for it. I know, iv killed a few similar bikes back in the day. But if you want a reliable TRAIL bike, then they are sweet.

So basically, are you the type of guy who trys to push limits and would be getting airborn very soon? - 125

Or the type thats content putting around trails and paddoks at your own speed, just for a bit of fun?

You must have had a shit 125 DELLORTO. Iv had one and know a few people with them and none of us ever had problems.


nice flyingcr. seen that one on trademe. looks pretty clean.

I'm pretty nervous when it comes to jumping, been jumping around on my friends off road scooter.

Trails and Paddocks will be fine enough for me (for now =))

flyingcr250
1st June 2009, 22:34
I'm pretty nervous when it comes to jumping, been jumping around on my friends off road scooter.

Trails and Paddocks will be fine enough for me (for now =))

couple of XR's

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-209226482.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-220230547.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-220101707.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-221988848.htm

xen
1st June 2009, 22:55
Get a kdx200, better than the xr & a 2stroke :niceone:

laserracer
1st June 2009, 23:12
All very well and good, but the guys on a VERY limited budget, about $900 well i presume thats his budget so i dont think you will find a kdx anything for that sort of money or anysort of mx bike worth a shit, so hes probably best to stick with something like a xr200 or cheap trail bike to start...remember this guy hasnt riden before

Pierce
2nd June 2009, 00:38
I think what you need to do is shoot out to thunder x bike park and rent a bike of theirs to see if you enjoy id. once you've got the hang of clutch etc on them go and try a couple of bikes *(XR250 and a KDX200) then make a desicion for yourself. Personally I started on a really old XR100 when I was real young, moved up to an XR200 then didn't ride for like 12yrs. Bought a CRF250 which i rode for a year, went CR250 which i'm riding now and love. Start wit something with a little less horsepower that isn't going to scare you shitless but something you can grow into over the next year or so then look at something a lil bigger and quicker if you feel the need to.

I would strongly recommend staying away from test riding the guys 250 two strokes on here as I know how fast they are and it could be enough to scare you off bike all together.

Take baby steps and move into it in your own time and you will have the time of your life and meet some great people riding too.

Microman171
2nd June 2009, 16:56
Thanks Pierce =)

I'm going to get a budget out of my parents, find an XR200/250 and some safety gear. Then I'll learn to ride in my own time.

Pierce
2nd June 2009, 17:07
Good stuff mate, you'll have a blast. And for riding you are in a top spot with loads of places to ride near by.

Microman171
2nd June 2009, 17:44
Good to hear mate, I'd hate to have to travel for a couple of hours to get to the nearest track...

I'm looking forward to giving it a start!

flyingcr250
2nd June 2009, 21:30
Good to hear mate, I'd hate to have to travel for a couple of hours to get to the nearest track...

I'm looking forward to giving it a start!

your first trailride should be litchfield (or maybe not lol). i think ive gone delirious with out a bike:shutup::shutup::blink:

Microman171
2nd June 2009, 23:04
I think I'm not going to be able to start for a long time... I think I'm going to have to pay for my own bike.

There is an 2002 XR200 on trademe for $750. I just need to assemble the head (what ever it's called). Buy now $750.

My dad reckons it's still too much... So until I get a job and save for my bike, I'm not going to be able to do anything. I'll talk to my mum, but I think the answer has changed to no.

Sad =(

B0000M
3rd June 2009, 08:46
[QUOTE=Microman171;1129240455]. I just need to assemble the head (what ever it's called). Buy now $750.

[QUOTE]

if you know that much about it, you should probably not even attempt assembling a head of a 4 stroke

oldskool
3rd June 2009, 10:41
I think I'm not going to be able to start for a long time... I think I'm going to have to pay for my own bike.

There is an 2002 XR200 on trademe for $750. I just need to assemble the head (what ever it's called). Buy now $750.

My dad reckons it's still too much... So until I get a job and save for my bike, I'm not going to be able to do anything. I'll talk to my mum, but I think the answer has changed to no.

Sad =(

Only if the trader isn't bending the truth a little. He would have assembled it himself and sell it for $1200+ if it was that simple. Complete XR motors sell for around $500 for an average one. It's like hens teeth to find a complete one because the toady gokart boys swept them all up about 5 years ago. They found them good for karts.
Same as XR250's. Hard to find replacement motors so you have to fix your own. You can get a Lifan (chinese) motor transplant for around $450 for the 200 but not the 250. The lifans are pushrods so performance is lacking but they are electric start. However they are chinese so expect the motor not to last.
You have to spend money to ride dirt bikes but it is addictive and heaps of fun.
DO NOT BUY A CHEAP CHINESE DIRT BIKE THINKING IT'S AN EASY IN...YOU WILL REGRET IT.

DELLORTO
3rd June 2009, 12:30
I think I'm not going to be able to start for a long time... I think I'm going to have to pay for my own bike.

There is an 2002 XR200 on trademe for $750. I just need to assemble the head (what ever it's called). Buy now $750.

My dad reckons it's still too much... So until I get a job and save for my bike, I'm not going to be able to do anything. I'll talk to my mum, but I think the answer has changed to no.

Sad =(

to be honest mate it might sound sad but maybe you shouldnt buy a dirt bike just yet......if your budget is that low you shouldnt bother......your dad must nothing about dirt bikes if he thinks $1000 is too much.....because to be honest even $1000 for a motorbike is not enough

B0000M
3rd June 2009, 13:05
to be honest mate it might sound sad but maybe you shouldnt buy a dirt bike just yet......if your budget is that low you shouldnt bother......your dad must nothing about dirt bikes if he thinks $1000 is too much.....because to be honest even $1000 for a motorbike is not enough

to put it this way, i work full time, my mrs works full time, we dont have a huge amount of expenses, yet somehow we always seem to have no money, usually because its all been spent on bikes, riding bikes, or fixing bikes

Cr1MiNaL
3rd June 2009, 13:22
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-220995319.htm

How much per week / per month does this sport cost?

That bike will not sell for under 3k mate... or so my limited experience in the dirt world tells me... Go the 2 stokes though... theyre actually pretty ballzie. The 2 stroke 125's race in the 250 four class for a reason !:woohoo:

Hire a bike and see if ur into it first.... I wasnt sure if I'd like dirt bikes, but I like being dirty and trust me theyre a lot more forgiving :) besides it doesnt cost nearly as much to chuck one down a hill ;)

Microman171
3rd June 2009, 16:54
I guess I got it wrong then... $750 seemed like such a good deal.

What would I have to do to assemble a four stroke head and barrel? (Please note the valves are reconditioned and assembled into the head).

I know what you mean by that. He doesn't think $1000 is too much... He thinks $750 is FAR too much...

vazza
3rd June 2009, 17:00
That bike will not sell for under 3k mate... or so my limited experience in the dirt world tells me... Go the 2 stokes though... theyre actually pretty ballzie. The 2 stroke 125's race in the 250 four class for a reason !:woohoo:

Hire a bike and see if ur into it first.... I wasnt sure if I'd like dirt bikes, but I like being dirty and trust me theyre a lot more forgiving :) besides it doesnt cost nearly as much to chuck one down a hill ;)

Lol, I disagree. You could pick up that YZ125 for 2k I reckon. Or under if your lucky. Good bike to start on to _b

B0000M
3rd June 2009, 17:01
I know what you mean by that. He doesn't think $1000 is too much... He thinks $750 is FAR too much...


lol, does he think people give bikes away or something?

i wish a good bike could be bought for $1000!, unfortunately to get new, you need about $10,000

Microman171
3rd June 2009, 17:02
That bike will not sell for under 3k mate...

It's buy now is $750

Microman171
3rd June 2009, 17:03
lol, does he think people give bikes away or something?

i wish a good bike could be bought for $1000!, unfortunately to get new, you need about $10,000

I don;t really know o be honest... I'm going to have to ask him about it.

Cr1MiNaL
3rd June 2009, 17:34
It's buy now is $750


Really $750 buy now where? Ill buy it right now for that price hehe. 2.5k reserve mate. 2 k is what your looking for as a minimum for a good dirt bike. Wish mine was a Yamaha...

Microman171
3rd June 2009, 17:38
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Other/auction-221658675.htm I would love to get this.

flyingcr250
3rd June 2009, 18:08
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Other/auction-221658675.htm I would love to get this.

my boss has a kdx 200 motor put in a kx 125 frame just sitting in the shed doing nothing. i think its a 1998.

Ride it till the red
3rd June 2009, 19:42
my boss has a kdx 200 motor put in a kx 125 frame just sitting in the shed doing nothing. i think its a 1998.

Any idea if he'd want to sell? Younger brother is getting to the size where he'd need a bike that size (I'd drop it slightly) but the power delivery of a kdx would be alot better than a kx for the type of riding he'd want to do.

oldskool
3rd June 2009, 20:09
my boss has a kdx 200 motor put in a kx 125 frame just sitting in the shed doing nothing. i think its a 1998.

Hey ask him if you can borrow it for a couple of months...see yah through until you get your dream bike...careful you don't fall in love with it tho!

flyingcr250
3rd June 2009, 20:16
Hey ask him if you can borrow it for a couple of months...see yah through until you get your dream bike...careful you don't fall in love with it tho!

no dice:scooter: na i can wait a few more weeks.

honda_power
14th June 2009, 13:41
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-223028294.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-223322878.htm

kezzafish
14th June 2009, 14:10
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-223028294.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-223322878.htm

check out the questions on that first link...

Q: hi there, i was just woundering if this bike is a 2 stroke or 4 stroke?? and does it have a powerband? purplecactus666 (83 ) 3:57 pm, Tue 9 Jun

A: Hi, 4 storke, as for a power band, I can't say never really driven that hard to notice...is there any way of telling by inspecting the bike? 6:59 am, Wed 10 Jun

brilliant!

Microman171
14th June 2009, 16:22
Hey,

Think I'm going to have to buy my own bike, so it's going to be a long time before I can start.

Who knows, maybe after visiting thunder cross valley park, my Dad will change his mind.

Thanks for all of your help!

RMZ KID
10th July 2009, 12:03
u knw what mate if you start asap you could be like honda power even though he was afraid of his mx100 at 8 years old but it was a fucked up bike

and iv had a go on his yz 250 and his crf 250 there great bikes i want a 250 2 smoker and im only 14

louis418
24th August 2014, 11:49
thats the spirit:niceone: you need to tell me that some times.....:clap:

at the schools mx champs a guy was getting about 5 feet of air on a xr250 so that shows its about the rider......but i think he was just realy realy good


heres what you should do,

get a xr250 and gear, ride it for about a year going around trails ect and whille you doing that save for a better bike and after a year sell the xr250 and buy a 250 mx'er :clap:

300180

That was me, way back in the day! :D