Fucking Ch-ch boy racers...

[madbikeboy]

Is anyone else watching the boy racer article on Sunday?

What a bunch of tools, pouring diesel on the road.

There is this one guy they are interviewing that organises the events - he is defending the $25k worth of damage to a road after burnouts the night before - his view is "that's why we pay taxes". The guy is unemployed...

Fuck.

Shooting at cops. Bottling cops...

[hayd3n]

he needs to be arse fucked by a well hung prisoner
i dont mind my taxes paying for it

[nallac]

he needs to be arse fucked by a well hung prisoner
i dont mind my taxes paying for it

that would be tax money well spent....

[madbikeboy]

yep, sure would be.

[wbks]

I already suggested in the other thread that a CHCH hunter or target shooter should lie down in a nice spot a few hundred meters from their little meet and start shooting their rad's, preferably during a burnout. Bigger rifles should leave a nice hole in their engine block?

[98tls]

Beats me how the fuckers got a licence when they cant even wear a baseball cap the right way round.:doh:

[Naki Rat]

I hope they sell tickets to watch those little fuckers' cars being crushed. They'd sell like hot cakes :woohoo:

[hayd3n]

+1 to ticket buying

[tigertim20]

he needs to be arse fucked by a well hung prisoner
i dont mind my taxes paying for it

Fuckin oath! bling sent mate!
It wont stop untill a vigilante group go round destroying their cars. I would be happy to join the vigilante group. Lost count of how many boy cocksuckers racers have nearly run me off the road hooning in and out of streets in town and ignoring red lights and stuff. They usually lose a wing mirror or tail light at the next intersection though :eek: especially vindicating when its one of them uber expensive aftermarket jobbies they pay heaps for :bleh:

Havent had it in Dunedin yet, but ive been on rides in backroads just out of towns and nearly come off from diesel on the roads where theyve been dong burnouts the night before.

[ynot slow]

How can they drive and have a license with $12000 of fines?Oh that's right the courts let them,can't wait till crushing time for that twat,hope he starts paying them soon or bye bye car,about time the courts seized it anyway if he hasn't started payment plan.

And as for big chief bozo,re hire purchase cars not being crushed,the cops pay the finance company then he pays the courts maybe,or how about tough shit the contract is the client and finance company,no car but still has to pay,if he doesn't no more cars as credit companies will not give credit,not even to those willing to pay 40%.And as for the rubbish of changing details of purchase,can't do it without finance companies ok,if suddenly ownership is changes in short time after ticket,tough.

[98tls]

I hope they sell tickets to watch those little fuckers' cars being crushed. They'd sell like hot cakes :woohoo: Personally mate i just hope they follow through and actually do it,it reeks of the empty 3rd strike your in the big house bullshit they threatened for drink driving which has turned out to be a load of bollocks.You watch all the fucking do -gooders will line up to help these pricks out.."cant crush his car your honour he was spanked as a child" blah blah blah."his parents split up whilst he was being breast fed" blah fucking blah,there will be a goverment funded army of ex hippy tree hugging lesbians with no other purpose in life but to make sure the evil hand of justice doesnt remove the shitty 82 Prelude from the pimple faced owner......"hes got rights dont you know":doh:

[rosie631]

And as for big chief bozo,re hire purchase cars not being crushed,the cops pay the finance company then he pays the courts maybe,or how about tough shit the contract is the client and finance company,no car but still has to pay,if he doesn't no more cars as credit companies will not give credit

Works for me

[want-a-harley]

Don't expect crushing laws to do fuck all unless they make em tougher. From stuff:

"In 2007, only 10 offenders had the required three offences within four years to trigger the crushing clause."

[want-a-harley]

Personally mate i just hope they follow through and actually do it,it reeks of the empty 3rd strike your in the big house bullshit they threatened for drink driving which has turned out to be a load of bollocks.You watch all the fucking do -gooders will line up to help these pricks out.."cant crush his car your honour he was spanked as a child" blah blah blah."his parents split up whilst he was being breast fed" blah fucking blah,there will be a goverment funded army of ex hippy tree hugging lesbians with no other purpose in life but to make sure the evil hand of justice doesnt remove the shitty 82 Prelude from the pimple faced owner......"hes got rights dont you know":doh:

Nah, even the most liberal leftie hates boy racers

[Oakie]

I already suggested in the other thread that a CHCH hunter or target shooter should lie down in a nice spot a few hundred meters from their little meet and start shooting their rad's, preferably during a burnout. Bigger rifles should leave a nice hole in their engine block?

Hmm. I haven't put a round through my rifle for damned near 7 years now. Probably should just to make sure the telescopic sight is still zeroed in. Probably should start out with a big target ... something the size of a car radiator would be good.

[ManDownUnder]

Crush their cars, and hoist their tax rates to pay back damage to the roads... staying there until the damage is paid for!

[Naki Rat]

Don't expect crushing laws to do fuck all unless they make em tougher. From stuff:

"In 2007, only 10 offenders had the required three offences within four years to trigger the crushing clause."

But watch the little pricks crush their own cars by crashing while running from the cops when they think they stand to loose their wheels. Just so long as Joe public doesn't get caught in the crossfire.

[Robbo]

Yep. This continuing display of public anti-social and obnoxious behaviour by these wankers sure puts the public opinion behind the proposed car crushing law. I just hope that for once the politicians and law makers put their actions where there mouths are and do it.
Incidently, these boy wankers (i mean racers) are not to be confused with genuine car enthusiasts who take pride in their ride and don't have the attitude problem.

[awayatc]

Thought bikers were supposed to be a little bit anti-establishment , or at least non conformist.....

Just riding back from the Brass monkey today I must have disobeyed quite a few traffic rules/laws myself....AND pissed off a "'cager" or 2....
Shall we burn bikers 2......?

[NighthawkNZ]

Just riding back from the Brass monkey today I must have disobeyed quite a few traffic rules/laws myself....AND pissed off a "'cager" or 2....
Shall we burn bikers 2......?

yes burn them all...

[awayatc]

Does that Ducati look Ghey to you....?

[chester]

spent th last week repairing th car crusher for work, so bring it on.....(please dont put sand in th hydraulic tank again!)

[Robbo]

spent th last week repairing th car crusher for work, so bring it on.....(please dont put sand in th hydraulic tank again!)

LOL. Nice one chester. Pics of the happy customers after the events would be great to see if you can post them. :niceone:

[98tls]

Thought bikers were supposed to be a little bit anti-establishment , or at least non conformist.....
:doh:You really need to cancel that Easyrider subscription.

[Shadows]

Careful what you wish for, people.

[98tls]

Just riding back from the Brass monkey today I must have disobeyed quite a few traffic rules/laws myself....AND pissed off a "'cager" or 2....
Shall we burn bikers 2......? Yea yea blah blah didnt we all,little different to pouring shit all over the road and then on National TV looking like an advert for why you should use Clearisil saying "Diesal n oil wont affect other road users".

[awayatc]

:doh:You really need to cancel thaty Easyrider subscription.

No subscription......
Who's next?
after all the boy racers are "dealt" with?
that the world you want to live in?
Hitler's Germany, Communist Russia and apartheid South Africa failed....
but it looks like NZ will have a good go at it........
How Sad....

[FJRider]

Careful what you wish for, people.

In other words ... maybe ... those proposed new reg's will apply to Bikes too ...

[chester]

Careful what you wish for, people.

I wish the boy racers would fcuk off and/or grow up.
+ 10 mil would be nice please.

[oldrider]

No subscription......
Who's next?
after all the boy racers are "dealt" with?
that the world you want to live in?
Hitler's Germany, Communist Russia and apartheid South Africa failed....
but it looks like NZ will have a good go at it........
How Sad....

Well, have you got a better suggestion?

All that bloody oil spread over the road...cant wait to hit that in the dark!

After watching that Sunday programme performance, I am against crushing their cars now.

Just crush all the boy racer's instead! :brick: What a bloody fuckwit, he was! :doh:

[98tls]

No subscription......
Who's next?
after all the boy racers are "dealt" with?
that the world you want to live in?
Hitler's Germany, Communist Russia and apartheid South Africa failed....
but it looks like NZ will have a good go at it........
How Sad.... I see/read your point..really i do but na these fuckers are getting well out of hand,bit of a car fan myself both way back and to a less degree even now and without doubt like most did what could be called even then illegal shit but pouring shit all over the road etc:doh:Brainless inconsiderate fucks.What the hell,dont whinge when you get fucked up by there doings.Me i will.

[Indiana_Jones]

I already suggested in the other thread that a CHCH hunter or target shooter should lie down in a nice spot a few hundred meters from their little meet and start shooting their rad's, preferably during a burnout. Bigger rifles should leave a nice hole in their engine block?

This plan sounds good to me.

You can buy Ghillie suits online if need be :msn-wink:

-Indy

[wbks]

No subscription......
Who's next?
after all the boy racers are "dealt" with?
that the world you want to live in?
Hitler's Germany, Communist Russia and apartheid South Africa failed....
but it looks like NZ will have a good go at it........
How Sad....
About your brass monkey thing - if you started bottling cops in a group of bikers and spreading slippery shit all over the place to do burnouts, than yes, burn bike hoons... As for this: Its a sad, sad, candy ass post labour NZ when wishing these fuckwits get a little crushing equals hitler and stalin comparisons. I mean... REALLY?

[wbks]

This plan sounds good to me.

You can buy Ghillie suits online if need be :msn-wink:

-Indy
They can't see how gay it is to do burnouts in a beaten up commie station wagon, how are they going to see someone out in a field with a fluro vest on?

[Indiana_Jones]

Nick Shank.......

I think this little cunt has made himself heaps of mates lol

Too bad the dumb little cunt thinks it's cool and he's got street cred now bro!

I bet the sad cunt plays world of war craft and wanks off a lot lol

-Indy

[Shadows]

Not a good thing to be pouring diesel on the roads, but anything these idiots do pales into insignificance compared with what gets dumped all over corners and roundabouts all over the country due to truck and bus drivers overfilling their tanks and having loose fuel caps.

If you want to have an issue with diesel, have an issue with that first. Ricers don't leave 20km trails of the shit everywhere they go.

Speaking of shit, how about overflowing effluent tanks on stock trucks? Another scourge.

People complained about the ricer exhausts - so they brought in a law - now some people (myself included) are having a cunt of a time getting their bikes WOF'd. I think everybody calling for more legislation must have smoked too many cones in their youth, to have memories so short.

At the end of the day, yeah the guys need a bit of education because some of the shit they get up to can create an issue for other road users... but we're all petrol heads, and only a small few of us stick to the rules all of the time. Any new laws brought into existence can be used on anybody.

Taking off from the lights on a motorcycle could be seen as an unnecessary exhibition of acceleration (street racing) - even without trying. We all do it and could be caught many times if the cops got hot on it. How about group rides? They'll be history. Can't have all that performance potential in one place, can we? Popped up your front wheel a little bit on blast off? Would you like your bike crushed with that ticket, sir?

[Indiana_Jones]

It is a slippery slope we stand on.

New laws isn't what is needed.

They need to make the punishment hasher/longer for the current ones.

Really come down on them like a ton of bricks. Sell the cars if they don't pay their fines.

The cops know the kids who keep doing it.

Beat the shit out of them in the cop shop. Smash out brake lights.

-Indy

[Mikkel]

Nah, even the most liberal leftie hates boy racers

Left-wing Liberals? Not here buddy, in NZ liberals are well right of the center... It's the bleeding heart socialist softcocks you gotta worry about.


Just riding back from the Brass monkey today I must have disobeyed quite a few traffic rules/laws myself....AND pissed off a "'cager" or 2....
Shall we burn bikers 2......?

I'd say, if you were going to burn your bike the Brass Monkey would appear to be the right place for it - missed the window ;)

[SMOKEU]

So people with noisy exhausts and lowered suspension are worse than drunk drivers, rapists and kiddy fiddlers now? That's news to me, oh wait it's not, our government is run by crackpots so it doesn't surprise me.

[madbikeboy]

Well, have you got a better suggestion?

All that bloody oil spread over the road...cant wait to hit that in the dark!

After watching that Sunday programme performance, I am against crushing their cars now.

Just crush all the boy racer's instead! :brick: What a bloody fuckwit, he was! :doh:

+1. What a complete fuckwit, I mean seriously, did you hear him defend burning up the road??

[awayatc]

As for this: Its a sad, sad, candy ass post labour NZ when wishing these fuckwits get a little crushing equals hitler and stalin comparisons. I mean... REALLY?

Sounds to me you are one of the victims of post labour NZ.....you need and want legislation for everything and let the state decide on everything for you.
make up more and more rules......
I am fortunate enough to be born with a brain and instructions on how to use it.
Don't need instructions on how to go through life....

I strongly support police dealing with ANYBODY who interferes with , or endangers my life.
By all means deal with the fuckwits you are talking about......but do you realy trust the politicians and all coppers enough to give them more and more blanket cover laws to run all our lives.....?

There is enough legislation in place to deal with Fuckwiths....
Use it.

[YellowDog]

Some of us on here are a little older than others and have kids of this age.

As a parent, should you defy the anti-smacking law?

Does anti-smacking prevent a parent demonstrating to their child just how bad such behaviour is?

Do you believe that having excellent parenting communication skills to convey the magnitude of frustration felt by very many people over such inappropriate behaviour will remedy this NZ wide problem?

"But Dad, it's what you pay your Rego fees for and taxes f" 'B A N G'......................................

[wbks]

Sounds to me you are one of the victims of post labour NZ.....you need and want legislation for everything and let the state decide on everything for you.Well I haven't actually said too much about myself on here so I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion
make up more and more rules......
I am fortunate enough to be born with a brain and instructions on how to use it.I love it how anyone who doesn't conform with the others view on this site is stated as a nobrainer...
Don't need instructions on how to go through life....

I strongly support police dealing with ANYBODY who interferes with , or endangers my life.So the guys on TV aren't when you ride through the night onto a nice oily patch of diesel?
By all means deal with the fuckwits you are talking about......but do you realy trust the politicians and all coppers enough to give them more and more blanket cover laws to run all our lives.....?They aren't running your life by crushing your car if you do stupid shit on public roads with it. This site is a biker site... Bikers more than normally advocate that your road license should be a privilege, not a right, so isn't it fair to crush your car if three times you abuse that right? And about the group rides thing - If it isn't specific in that legislation that it applys to cars specifically, than it won't matter hugely... Police have this little thing called discretion - They probably aren't going to bust you the moment they don't like your acceleration (if they would, they could get you every time you take off under current laws even though it probably wouldn't be proven, but thats my point).

There is enough legislastion in place to deal with Fuckwits....
Use it. -Not working so great at the moment. Accept it or support change, thats pretty much the only choice you have

[rosie631]

Not a good thing to be pouring diesel on the roads, but anything these idiots do pales into insignificance compared with what gets dumped all over corners and roundabouts all over the country due to truck and bus drivers overfilling their tanks and having loose fuel caps.

If you want to have an issue with diesel, have an issue with that first. Ricers don't leave 20km trails of the shit everywhere they go.

Speaking of shit, how about overflowing effluent tanks on stock trucks? Another scourge.

People complained about the ricer exhausts - so they brought in a law - now some people (myself included) are having a cunt of a time getting their bikes WOF'd. I think everybody calling for more legislation must have smoked too many cones in their youth, to have memories so short.

At the end of the day, yeah the guys need a bit of education because some of the shit they get up to can create an issue for other road users... but we're all petrol heads, and only a small few of us stick to the rules all of the time. Any new laws brought into existence can be used on anybody.

Taking off from the lights on a motorcycle could be seen as an unnecessary exhibition of acceleration (street racing) - even without trying. We all do it and could be caught many times if the cops got hot on it. How about group rides? They'll be history. Can't have all that performance potential in one place, can we? Popped up your front wheel a little bit on blast off? Would you like your bike crushed with that ticket, sir?

Good post mate. Some thought provoking comments. Think you are right about us getting caught up in it. Not looking forward to WOF time with my new pipes.

[scumdog]

Yea yea blah blah didnt we all,little different to pouring shit all over the road and then on National TV looking like an advert for why you should use Clearisil saying "Diesal n oil wont affect other road users".

Anybody that needs diesel/oil on the road to get their tyres to spin must have some gutless piece of shit for a car, likewise anybody that needs to use their brakes to get the tyres to spin.........if ya ain't got enough grunt to spin the tyres just by planitng the boot on the pedal then maybe ya shouldn't be doing it - or go and buy some more grunt.

Dicks.

[madbikeboy]

Anybody that needs diesel/oil on the road to get their tyres to spin must have some gutless piece of shit for a car, likewise anybody that needs to use their brakes to get the tyres to spin.........if ya ain't got enough grunt to spin the tyres just by planitng the boot on the pedal then maybe ya shouldn't be doing it - or go and buy some more grunt.

Dicks.

Quite. Additionally, I would have thought any group that uses your peer group for target practice should also come under scrutiny...

[Pedrostt500]

The Laws have always been there to deal with the Twat ricers, Its just all our Judges have been turned into LIMP WRIST LEFT WING LIBERAL PANZIES, and have failed to hand down tougher sentences, For farks sake who lets a kid rack up $ 12k of fines or more, and still lets the little wanker have a licence, would it not be smarter to say 12 months loss of licence or fines paid off in full and wich ever is the latter, and the licence is not returned untill the fine is paid in full. If the fuckers can afford to pay $30k for a car then another $20k for mods they can afford to pay their fines in FULL, before being allowed to own another car or drive one.
I see car crushing becoming very unpopular and not to long after the first dozen or so cars get crushed, as that law can be applied to any of us and who gets to decide when a vechicle gets crushed, and do you get to appeal if you get caught by an over zelous Copper, thats still wet behind the ears from Copper School.
What also should happen is those with larger fines to pay back to the courts, say 2k and over should have a stop put on any finance they get untill their fines are reduced to under 2k, they can still pay off exsiting finance but cant rack up any new finance.

[ynot slow]

Hey another thought here,crushing the car syndrome.
1)-The cars worth maybe $4500.
2)-The wheels worth $2500.
3)-The lowered springs $1000.
4)The sounds $2000.
5)The sports system $1500.
All adds up to a lot of crushed H/P's ha friggin ha boys.
They forget that yep can buy a car with dodgy credit(after car taken with $ owing to finance co.)but pay higher interest if they can get finance,but they can't get finance for the wheels,sounds etc,bliss eh.

Yes I have had the odd momentary loss of traction in the car,but when noone else around,going in straight line,and not having to put oil or diesel on road,falcon has enough grunt,and tyres were down to 2 or 3mm on rears,so were to be changed.But if I got caught then I would pay the fine,it's what responsible people do,at least I can't get stopped at customs for outstanding fines.

Also this law will only be enforced after 3 times apparently,so assumnig these guys can count,then after 2 tickets they should lay low till the 2 years are up.Much like demerits at the moment.But also the cops will know the vehicles involved,and they can see if plates are changed etc,incase the boys think new plates will help,maybe but the car paintjob,exhaust,sounds will still be the same.

Not to be confused with boys or men driving classic type cars,the commy SS or coon XR8,cobra replicas,stangs,comaros etc,car club guys are not part of the racer crowd.

[Pixie]

Not a good thing to be pouring diesel on the roads, but anything these idiots do pales into insignificance compared with what gets dumped all over corners and roundabouts all over the country due to truck and bus drivers overfilling their tanks and having loose fuel caps.

If you want to have an issue with diesel, have an issue with that first. Ricers don't leave 20km trails of the shit everywhere they go.

Speaking of shit, how about overflowing effluent tanks on stock trucks? Another scourge.


I hope they crush NZTA for letting the tar flushing get as bad as it is

[scumdog]

The Laws have always been there to deal with the Twat ricers, Its just all our Judges have been turned into LIMP WRIST LEFT WING LIBERAL PANZIES, and have failed to hand down tougher sentences, For farks sake who lets a kid rack up $ 12k of fines or more, and still lets the little wanker have a licence, would it not be smarter to say 12 months loss of licence or fines paid off in full and wich ever is the latter, and the licence is not returned untill the fine is paid in full. If the fuckers can afford to pay $30k for a car then anothe $20k for mods they can afford to pay their fines in FULL, before being allowed to own another car or drive one.


Most of the tickets are handed to them for not driving to conditions of learners or restricted drivers licence at $400 a pop + 25 demerits. (They seem to think that once they get that little plastic rectangle in their sticky little hands that the rules don't count any more) - or because their p.o.s. twatbox has no W.O.F. or rego, both worth $200 each.

So they drive around the countryside getting tickets for breach of licence conditions, no WOF or rego = $800 a time from this cop and that cop from all over.

And the way they drive it's not hard to get pulled over 10 or 15 times a year (or for some rocket-brains, even more) so it's no effort to end up with $8,000 worth of tickets and if they lie/move house etc the demerits can take a while to catch up with them.
In a smaller town where they stand out it's 3 x breach of licence tickets then straight to Court to be disqualified.

Oh, and they mostly CAN'T afford to pay $30,000 for their car, somewhere between $8,000 to $18,000 tops for most of them - and even then they get repo'd regularly.

(Hell, nil deposit, walk in-drive off makes it waay too easy for them to get a car - bring in 2/3 deposit and mandatory third part insurance (run privately of course) and that would sharpen the little turds up a bit)

[Naki Rat]

Some of us on here are a little older than others and have kids of this age.

As a parent, should you defy the anti-smacking law?

Does anti-smacking prevent a parent demonstrating to their child just how bad such behaviour is?

Do you believe that having excellent parenting communication skills to convey the magnitude of frustration felt by very many people over such inappropriate behaviour will remedy this NZ wide problem?

"But Dad, it's what you pay your Rego fees for and taxes f" 'B A N G'......................................

This issue has got everything to do with lack of parental and school control of kids. How many of these disorderly and vandalistic hoons would have adopted a better outlook on life if a few well meaning slaps had been applied many years ago?

The problem is that those undisciplined kids are now playing a dangerous game of cat and mouse with the authorities in order to find the limits on their behaviour that weren't set when they should have been. This is what you get for allowing the state to run your lives.

The missed smack on the arse as a child ends up being replaced by far greater harm meted out by a frustrated vigilante :ar15:

[laRIKin]

Hell, nil deposit, walk in-drive off makes it waay too easy for them to get a car - bring in 2/3 deposit and mandatory third part insurance (run privately of course) and that would sharpen the little turds up a bit

That is what I have said for a while now.
When I was a lad you had to have 2/3 deposit for bike or car.
And pay cash for mag's etc.
None of this dollar down and a dollar a week shit.
It would slow then down and if they lose their car they would feel it more.

[oldrider]

There is enough legislation in place to deal with Fuckwiths....
Use it.

If that is the guts of your previous posts, I totally agree with you but you had it obscured by all that other emotional verbage.

Why are the police etc so reluctant to use the exsisting legislation?

Well, IMHO.

Because "lawyers" play their silly games defending the indefensible and make an ass of our whole society.

Judges, who were all once "lawyers", perpetuate their silly game and we the taxpayers (victims) finance the whole ridiculous situation! :doh:

[NighthawkNZ]

3)-The lowered springs $1000.



most of the lowering is done by themself and mates, but cutting the spring.. and it makes it handle so much better...:rolleyes:

[Pussy]

This issue has got everything to do with lack of parental and school control of kids. How many of these disorderly and vandalistic hoons would have adopted a better outlook on life if a few well meaning slaps had been applied many years ago?

The problem is that those undisciplined kids are now playing a dangerous game of cat and mouse with the authorities in order to find the limits on their behaviour that weren't set when they should have been. This is what you get for allowing the state to run your lives.

The missed smack on the arse as a child ends up being replaced by far greater harm meted out by a frustrated vigilante :ar15:
:niceone: <you've got it in one>

[Beemer]

Yep. This continuing display of public anti-social and obnoxious behaviour by these wankers sure puts the public opinion behind the proposed car crushing law. I just hope that for once the politicians and law makers put their actions where there mouths are and do it.
Incidently, these boy wankers (i mean racers) are not to be confused with genuine car enthusiasts who take pride in their ride and don't have the attitude problem.

Precisely - they couldn't have picked better morons to illustrate what boy racers are really like. The lead moron looked like a fucking hobbit and their behaviour made me so wild I wanted to kill them! What he doesn't seem to realise is that his future employers (big hero, currently studying, so he's NOT paying taxes) may be watching this footage and won't touch him with a bargepole.

I think he said something about the boy racers putting a lot back into the community - in what ways, you fuckwit?

We belong to a couple of car clubs and one regularly takes part in Friday night cruises - will WE be penalised, targeted, etc by the cops? We may drive cars with V8 engines or flash paint jobs, but we have nothing in common with boy racers.

I knew they were causing problems but I hadn't realised quite how bad it had got. As for that tosser tipping oil or whatever on the road, he needs an arse kicking too. The lead moron said anyone driving in a straight line and hitting the oil in the wet won't have an accident. Oh yeah? What about if they pulled out to overtake? Or the oil pooled somewhere? He very carefully avoids becoming involved himself, he just organises it. He's just as bad as the rest of them and he needs to wake up to himself.

I'm so glad I don't live anywhere near the little shit bags as I would be so tempted to shoot them!

[Tony.OK]

What they showed on telly were not what I'd call boy racers, they were just drunkin dickheads, most of the cars were just cheap piles of shit.
I totally get younger people tricking their cars out, alot of us do the same with our bikes, these idiots were just a mob of delinquints.

Would the govt be better off banning open alcohol in cars? Most of the segment last night showed all the passengers holding their piss bottles out like trophies......................dunno, just a thought.

[scumdog]

Would the govt be better off banning open alcohol in cars? Most of the segment last night showed all the passengers holding their piss bottles out like trophies......................dunno, just a thought.

Yup, as in the States - no open liquor containers in the car.

Young+group+booze+cars = dickheads (most of the time.)

[MSTRS]

Would the govt be better off banning open alcohol in cars?

Isn't that already the case? It should be. Not that those fuckwits would comply...
Mind you, I guess it's very hard to enforce when they gather en masse, but will 'behave' when on their own.

[zx rider]

Change the lable on their gas can to read Diesel.
They will surely be smoking a fag or two while spreading their filth on the road, so ,.... wait for it....BOOM - Problem solved:devil2:
Then send out the sanitation dep't to hose the mess away. Mmmm

[SMOKEU]

All these new proposed laws fail to tackle the real problem. Crushing cars and trying to ban cruising will not work, it will only make the problem far worse than it already is, because if those drunken idiots are not cruising round in cars they will be walking the streets causing more problems than they already are. This whole problem has nothing to do with cars, like when that cops car got shot at in Christchurch, it was not a boy racer that did it, it was some drunken idiot with an airgun, and yet these Nazis are blaming it on cars. And when that security guard got her car bottled last week by Christchurch airport, it was not a boy racer that did it, it was some drunken idiots that did the damage. I fail to see how crushing and impounding cars will prevent drunken hooligans from assaulting people and causing willful damage. The "boy racers" do annoy some people with their noisy exhausts and BOVs, but it's the pissed passengers that are causing all the problems, so why isn't the government trying to tackle the real problem?

[sunhuntin]

Yup, as in the States - no open liquor containers in the car.

Young+group+booze+cars = dickheads (most of the time.)

my ex in canada told me that you cannot carry ANY alcohol within reach in a vehicle, whether its open or closed. so if you go the shop and get a box of whatever, it has to be stored in the boot for the trip home. would be an ideal law for here, but no one would comply by it.

as for the smacked arse argument... i got mine whacked a few times and grew up to be fairly reponsible. my brother got the same [but was molly coddled as first borns generally... he can get away with murder, and got away with stuff almost as bad including multiple accidents, drugs, tickets and worse] and he grew up to be the biggest cunt under the sun. its not so much the smacked backsides, its how they are treated the rest of time... do their parents think the sun shines out their darlings bum? if yes, then they will grow up to think the world revolves around them.

[MSTRS]

...then they will grow up to think the world revolves around them.

Simple failure to instil a sense of self-discipline.

[Robert Taylor]

All these new proposed laws fail to tackle the real problem. Crushing cars and trying to ban cruising will not work, it will only make the problem far worse than it already is, because if those drunken idiots are not cruising round in cars they will be walking the streets causing more problems than they already are. This whole problem has nothing to do with cars, like when that cops car got shot at in Christchurch, it was not a boy racer that did it, it was some drunken idiot with an airgun, and yet these Nazis are blaming it on cars. And when that security guard got her car bottled last week by Christchurch airport, it was not a boy racer that did it, it was some drunken idiots that did the damage. I fail to see how crushing and impounding cars will prevent drunken hooligans from assaulting people and causing willful damage. The "boy racers" do annoy some people with their noisy exhausts and BOVs, but it's the pissed passengers that are causing all the problems, so why isn't the government trying to tackle the real problem?
It would be very effective if the cars were crushed with the BRs still inside them. That would stop the problem stone dead.

[madbikeboy]

Change the lable on their gas can to read Diesel.
They will surely be smoking a fag or two while spreading their filth on the road, so ,.... wait for it....BOOM - Problem solved:devil2:
Then send out the sanitation dep't to hose the mess away. Mmmm

That's the best suggestion I've heard in weeks. :spanking:

[sunhuntin]

Simple failure to instil a sense of self-discipline.

exactly. and thats where the problem lies... hate to think what the futurell be like.

i could go into an all out rant about the brother, but would put the thread off topic.

[SMOKEU]

The government should charge and extra 20% tax on all beer bottles and bottled RTDs to encourage people to buy canned beverages, that would at least reduce the amount of bottle throwing and the huge mess than has to be cleaned up, not to mention all the dented panels and broken windows that bottles cause.

[skidMark]

I already suggested in the other thread that a CHCH hunter or target shooter should lie down in a nice spot a few hundred meters from their little meet and start shooting their rad's, preferably during a burnout. Bigger rifles should leave a nice hole in their engine block?


just fly over in a helicopter with a forrest fire bucket full of paint stripper.....

its raining.... auw bey why iz my paint on da ground bey

[Beemer]

as for the smacked arse argument... i got mine whacked a few times and grew up to be fairly reponsible. my brother got the same [but was molly coddled as first borns generally... he can get away with murder, and got away with stuff almost as bad including multiple accidents, drugs, tickets and worse] and he grew up to be the biggest cunt under the sun. its not so much the smacked backsides, its how they are treated the rest of time... do their parents think the sun shines out their darlings bum? if yes, then they will grow up to think the world revolves around them.

Too true - got a niece and nephew with a similar story. She was the first born but got the discipline, made to do what she was told and suffered the consequences if she didn't. He came along, was treated with kid gloves and allowed to do what he wanted, when he wanted, and to treat others (especially his sister) like dirt. Fast forward more than 30 years - she is a responsible married mother of three with a good job, nice husband who owns his own business and a lovely woman. Him? Well, he's a real loser. Can't hold down a job for long (even got sacked by his own father), into drugs, petty crime, etc and no one likes him. Gives a whole new meaning to the words 'white trash'.

Hopefully the recession will hit them hard - no jobs will mean no credit and no cars, etc. I'm just so glad they don't live near me!

[awayatc]

Make parents responsible again......( get rid of the softcock/privacy legislations)
Then you make them accountable and responsible for offsprings actions.....
(kids can't pay-parents pay)
under 18 and want to register a car? only with written permission of parents.

[SMOKEU]

Make parents responsible again......( get rid of the softcock/privacy legislations)
Then you make them accountable and responsible for offsprings actions.....
(kids can't pay-parents pay)
under 18 and want to register a car? only with written permission of parents.

And then those 16 year olds without parental permission will all get $150 deregd piles of crap and start driving them around instead.

[scumdog]

And then those 16 year olds without parental permission will all get $150 deregd piles of crap and start driving them around instead.

Like some don't do just that right now<_<???

[jim.cox]

Beats me how the fuckers got a licence when they cant even wear a baseball cap the right way round.:doh:

they wear their undies backwards too...

[Marmoot]

fucken gray haired middleaged and pregnant drunks kill more people every year than boyracers. How come their cars don't get crushed?

Oh I see. Waiting till they shoot a cop car, are we?

[scumdog]

fucken gray haired middleaged and pregnant drunks kill more people every year than boyracers. How come their cars don't get crushed?

Oh I see. Waiting till they shoot a cop car, are we?

We want to prevent the boy racers getting to be gray haired and pregnant drunks..however the hell THAT works!

[dmouse]

All these new proposed laws fail to tackle the real problem. Crushing cars and trying to ban cruising will not work, it will only make the problem far worse than it already is, because if those drunken idiots are not cruising round in cars they will be walking the streets causing more problems than they already are. This whole problem has nothing to do with cars, like when that cops car got shot at in Christchurch, it was not a boy racer that did it, it was some drunken idiot with an airgun, and yet these Nazis are blaming it on cars. And when that security guard got her car bottled last week by Christchurch airport, it was not a boy racer that did it, it was some drunken idiots that did the damage. I fail to see how crushing and impounding cars will prevent drunken hooligans from assaulting people and causing willful damage. The "boy racers" do annoy some people with their noisy exhausts and BOVs, but it's the pissed passengers that are causing all the problems, so why isn't the government trying to tackle the real problem?

hey hold on there mate, so you are saying that the cop and the security guard were in the wrong place at the wrong time ?? so do these yobs or drunken idiots as you call them just happen to be in the same place as the boy racers or is it the other way round, what ever way you look at it, this copper and the securuty gaurd was only doing what butters there bread, so what should they have done avoid these places !!!, what if it was outside your house would you call the cops or noise patrol to sort it out ?? dont forget these yobs will proberly appear at the same time, could you handel it. i have a scanner and live in CHCH and hear all the time about these pricks most of them over 100 points on there license its other goverment offices that let down the system not taking there license or issueing notices to forbid. the cops try and do the best they can, i have heard of cars that have had three green stickers and the cop cannot do anything about it. all these shit heads will do is if they will lose there car, they nick yours or my car and have there fun so we still end up paying, the law and the courts have to get tough on them jail the bastards and that hobbit on tv last week should be made an example of for condoneing illegal activities and riotios conduct likley to cause a breach of the peace. and i have heard on the scanner the police give out the informants details over the radio, that does not help matters as these pricks know who is shopping them and they park up outside there house just to let them know that they know the score.

my 10 cents worth :2guns:the f*#*ers:soon:

[wbks]

Maybe some govt. officials should take a leaf out of stalins book for a year and see how things go...

[popa griffin]

Does the enter key work here?

or does the forum automatically space it up and compact everything?

[_Shrek_]

I don't disagree with most of the posts here, BUT they (the law) can't crush something that does not belong to these dickheads it's the law, If we stop calling them boy racers it will take some of the shine away & lets face it they're not real racers just :tugger:'s with a point to prove (not sure what point)
but as someone who has arsed up because of diesel find it rather :angry2: to find these A.H's doing on purpose & should it happen because of said A.H's
I would be going on a which hunt :calm:

[nudemetalz]

A problem halved is a problem solved.....

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[monkeymcbean]

What really annoyed me was the comment about spreading oil around the road to do burnouts on was not dangerous to other road users as it was on a straight piece of road and so would not be hazardous with causing a car to loose control, they had no idea of the hazard it would cause a motorcycle to ride over the stuff.
Funny how motorbikes are not seen as other road users, if i saw that guy, he would end up wearing his balls as earrings!

[SMOKEU]

hey hold on there mate, so you are saying that the cop and the security guard were in the wrong place at the wrong time ?? so do these yobs or drunken idiots as you call them just happen to be in the same place as the boy racers or is it the other way round, what ever way you look at it, this copper and the securuty gaurd was only doing what butters there bread, so what should they have done avoid these places !!!, what if it was outside your house would you call the cops or noise patrol to sort it out ?? dont forget these yobs will proberly appear at the same time, could you handel it. i have a scanner and live in CHCH and hear all the time about these pricks most of them over 100 points on there license its other goverment offices that let down the system not taking there license or issueing notices to forbid. the cops try and do the best they can, i have heard of cars that have had three green stickers and the cop cannot do anything about it. all these shit heads will do is if they will lose there car, they nick yours or my car and have there fun so we still end up paying, the law and the courts have to get tough on them jail the bastards and that hobbit on tv last week should be made an example of for condoneing illegal activities and riotios conduct likley to cause a breach of the peace. and i have heard on the scanner the police give out the informants details over the radio, that does not help matters as these pricks know who is shopping them and they park up outside there house just to let them know that they know the score.

my 10 cents worth :2guns:the f*#*ers:soon:



So impounding and crushing cars as well as disqualifying people from driving will automatically stop people from using violence and it will stop drunken idiots from vandalizing property.

[madbikeboy]

Nope, but it's a good start.

Why are people excusing the bullshit that these fucking morons pull for kicks on a Saturday night. I had a chat with a mate who is ex-LAPD, they would bought in the SWAT team if a cop had of been shot at in LA. This country has a tolerance for people pulling this shit - without hard consequences, these little fuckers are running riot with perfect freedom.

It's not a few guys doing donuts on a quiet stretch of tarmac - these fuckers are actually ambushing cops.

Now, I'm not a fan of draconian law for laws sake, but something needed to be done a long time ago.

Most weekends during the summer, hoons turn up at the beach, do donuts, rip up the road, vandalise the shit out of everything, throw bottles. The next day, we have to carry the dogs/kids over the glass. I have stopped going out to help when the latest boy racer falls off the road (the last little fuck who knocked on my door demanding help after he drifted off the road and got beached on an island while showing off (drunk as fuck) ended up needing a little lie down for a while).

Fuck the boy racers, crush their cars.

[SMOKEU]

I don't encourage drifting it up on peoples front lawns or pouring diesel on the road, but a few burnouts in the countryside is harmless. There is no real boy racer problem, it is simply a fictitious "problem" that the media has created because they have nothing better to report. It is the drunk passengers that are causing the problems, not the drivers. When the cop got shot at, it was a drunk idiot passenger, not the driver, so why are we blaming the drivers? Why is no one wanking on about why we need tougher airgun laws? We have much more important things to worry about, such as the huge debt that this country is in, family violence etc, not trivial things such as "boy racers". The real problem has nothing to do with cars, it's those idiot passengers who can't handle their alcohol and it's them that are causing 90% of the trouble such as bottling cars and starting fights. And when you look at the fatal crash statistics the vast majority of fatalities on our roads are caused by the average 40 year old driver who made a fuck up, not boy racers. It's about time the government got its' priorities right and started cracking down on the REALLY dangerous behaviour such as unsafe overtaking, drunk drivers etc.

[scumdog]

I don't encourage drifting it up on peoples front lawns or pouring diesel on the road, but a few burnouts in the countryside is harmless. And when you look at the fatal crash statistics the vast majority of fatalities on our roads are caused by the average 40 year old driver who made a fuck up, not boy racers. It's about time the government got its' priorities right and started cracking down on the REALLY dangerous behaviour such as unsafe overtaking, drunk drivers etc.

(a) If they would stick to 'a few burnouts in the countryside' it would be OK - but no, the neck-tapping noddies have got to do it where they get the bigger audience and attention.

(b) Neck-tapping noddy boy-racer types will turn out to be those 40 year old drivers that make fuck-up - that is if they don't fuck up while they're still a boy first by unsafe overtaking and drink-driving etc..

[mossy1200]

Celebrity demolition durby with there impounded cars on prime time viewing is the way to go.I want to watch their faces drop as their cars take hits.
Maybe watching their mates cars get wrecked will give them second thoughts about causing havoc in the future.you cant tell me the boy racers are not going to turn the TV on to see a few evos and wrxs getting smashed up.

:gob:

Just about forgot monster trucks.Everyone loves monster trucks.

[SMOKEU]

Celebrity demolition durby with there impounded cars on prime time viewing is the way to go.I want to watch their faces drop as their cars take hits.
Maybe watching their mates cars get wrecked will give them second thoughts about causing havoc in the future.you cant tell me the boy racers are not going to turn the TV on to see a few evos and wrxs getting smashed up.

:gob:

Just about forgot monster trucks.Everyone loves monster trucks.

And you ride a 1000cc sports bike just for the wank factor and you never exceed any posted speed limits? A GN250 would be a better choice then, because after all your bike is the boy racer equivalent of a bike.

[mossy1200]

And you ride a 1000cc sports bike just for the wank factor and you never exceed any posted speed limits? A GN250 would be a better choice then, because after all your bike is the boy racer equivalent of a bike.Its a race bike.LOL.I ride it on a race track.Thats a place responsible people go to ride fast.Its not what you got its how you use it.My bonneville rides quite nicely two up at 100kmph.

assumption is the mother of all fuckups.

[McWild]

so why are we blaming the drivers?
How else do you suppose idiot passengers become passengers? :doh:

[scumdog]

How else do you suppose idiot passengers become passengers? :doh:

too subtle matey, too subtle.....

[madbikeboy]

And you ride a 1000cc sports bike just for the wank factor and you never exceed any posted speed limits? A GN250 would be a better choice then, because after all your bike is the boy racer equivalent of a bike.

You're obviously not very bright. And you just alienated me as well.

Okay Twat, a few points here. The drunken passengers are in the cars that are doing burnouts etc. How do they get there, other than riding in the car with the driver? Is it the drunken passengers doing that - if it is, they deserve a bullet - I, like many others, have lost family to drunk drivers. The problem is the passengers and the drivers collectively. Didn't they teach you logic at whatever inbred cluster-fuck of a school you dropped out of?

Next point, the average 1000 rider on this site is more responsible than you can ever comprehend, a litre of happy endings becomes a terminal ride if you ride like a wanker. Your CBR250 in no way prepares you for any commentary on a larger capacity bike. It's the equivalent of a pre-schooler explaining the laws of physics to a professor.

Last point - this is a societal issue with the group we call boy racers - who gives a fuck why or whatever, if a passenger in my car was shooting at a cop, I'd be the first to break him into little pieces. Your logic is a flawed as you are dull.

[SMOKEU]

You're obviously not very bright. And you just alienated me as well.

Okay Twat, a few points here. The drunken passengers are in the cars that are doing burnouts etc. How do they get there, other than riding in the car with the driver? Is it the drunken passengers doing that - if it is, they deserve a bullet - I, like many others, have lost family to drunk drivers. The problem is the passengers and the drivers collectively. Didn't they teach you logic at whatever inbred cluster-fuck of a school you dropped out of?

Next point, the average 1000 rider on this site is more responsible than you can ever comprehend, a litre of happy endings becomes a terminal ride if you ride like a wanker. Your CBR250 in no way prepares you for any commentary on a larger capacity bike. It's the equivalent of a pre-schooler explaining the laws of physics to a professor.

Last point - this is a societal issue with the group we call boy racers - who gives a fuck why or whatever, if a passenger in my car was shooting at a cop, I'd be the first to break him into little pieces. Your logic is a flawed as you are dull.

If you're so smart then why are you blaming the wrong people for all the shit that happens?

[madbikeboy]

If you're so smart then why are you blaming the wrong people for all the shit that happens?

Go back the post above - read it out loud. If written comprehension is a weak point (evidently the case), get someone smart to read it out loud to you and explain it using small words.

Your logic is so flawed, are you stoned, stupid, or stoned and stupid?

[MsKABC]

I don't encourage drifting it up on peoples front lawns or pouring diesel on the road, but a few burnouts in the countryside is harmless. There is no real boy racer problem, it is simply a fictitious "problem" that the media has created because they have nothing better to report. It is the drunk passengers that are causing the problems, not the drivers. When the cop got shot at, it was a drunk idiot passenger, not the driver, so why are we blaming the drivers? Why is no one wanking on about why we need tougher airgun laws? We have much more important things to worry about, such as the huge debt that this country is in, family violence etc, not trivial things such as "boy racers". The real problem has nothing to do with cars, it's those idiot passengers who can't handle their alcohol and it's them that are causing 90% of the trouble such as bottling cars and starting fights. And when you look at the fatal crash statistics the vast majority of fatalities on our roads are caused by the average 40 year old driver who made a fuck up, not boy racers. It's about time the government got its' priorities right and started cracking down on the REALLY dangerous behaviour such as unsafe overtaking, drunk drivers etc.

Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

[mossy1200]

If you're so smart then why are you blaming the wrong people for all the shit that happens?

Sorry guys I see you spilt diesel on the road.Wait I will wipe it up with my tyres.Who you think we should be blaming?????

[madbikeboy]

Sorry guys I see you spilt diesel on the road.Wait I will wipe it up with my tyres.Who you think we should be blaming?????

I can't bling you twice in 5 minutes... Damn.

[Oakie]

There is no real boy racer problem, it is simply a fictitious "problem" that the media has created because they have nothing better to report.

It's not the media who do donuts at the end of our cul-de-sac in north east ChCh.
Wasn't the media who lost control of a donut and smashed a wheel rim on the gutter at my front gate.


the vast majority of fatalities on our roads are caused by the average 40 year old driver who made a fuck up, not boy racers.

We're not talking about fatalities in accidents. We're talking about anti-social behaviour.

[madbikeboy]

It's not the media who do donuts at the end of our cul-de-sac in north east ChCh.
Wasn't the media who lost control of a donut and smashed a wheel rim on the gutter at my front gate.



We're not talking about fatalities in accidents. We're talking about anti-social behaviour.

But since he's on the topic of boy racers killing innocents:
Young girl killed on the shore a few years back by a boy racer.
Pedestrian (young female) killed in Ponsonby after she stepped out in front of a drag race
2-3 boy racers killed on the sidelines of impromptu drag races that I can recall in the last ten years (wish the number was higher...)
5 boy racers killed on east coast road, lost control at over 200 kph
2 minutes further up the road, young woma lost control of her new WRX, she died, along with a passenger from memory...

[mossy1200]

But since he's on the topic of boy racers killing innocents:
Young girl killed on the shore a few years back by a boy racer.
Pedestrian (young female) killed in Ponsonby after she stepped out in front of a drag race
2-3 boy racers killed on the sidelines of impromptu drag races that I can recall in the last ten years (wish the number was higher...)
5 boy racers killed on east coast road, lost control at over 200 kph
2 minutes further up the road, young woma lost control of her new WRX, she died, along with a passenger from memory...

Its not only that .An accident is an event caused by chance.If you deliberatly take risks thats not an accident thats just running into the inevitable.Role three dice long enough and you will get a triple 6 eventually.
Thats why a motorsport commentator calls it a racing incident.

[imdying]

But since he's on the topic of boy racers killing innocents:
Young girl killed on the shore a few years back by a boy racer.
Pedestrian (young female) killed in Ponsonby after she stepped out in front of a drag race
2-3 boy racers killed on the sidelines of impromptu drag races that I can recall in the last ten years (wish the number was higher...)
5 boy racers killed on east coast road, lost control at over 200 kph
2 minutes further up the road, young woma lost control of her new WRX, she died, along with a passenger from memory...Dude in a Supra struck and killed a pedestrian in Fendalton, another racer on Fitzgerald Ave struck and killed a pedestrian... Guy in an RX7 struck a tree on Coleridge St, died...

[MsKABC]

But since he's on the topic of boy racers killing innocents:
Young girl killed on the shore a few years back by a boy racer.
Pedestrian (young female) killed in Ponsonby after she stepped out in front of a drag race
2-3 boy racers killed on the sidelines of impromptu drag races that I can recall in the last ten years (wish the number was higher...)
5 boy racers killed on east coast road, lost control at over 200 kph
2 minutes further up the road, young woma lost control of her new WRX, she died, along with a passenger from memory...

And wasn't there a young woman killed in Wellington just a year or two ago when one of two racing cars hit her?

[madbikeboy]

And wasn't there a young woman killed in Wellington just a year or two ago when one of two racing cars hit her?

Apparently, I need to spread it around.

[Molly]

In '07 a Christchurch boy racer c**t knocked me off my bike whilst trying to evade a cop. I got a stay in hospital, some f'kin' painful, lingering injuries, permanent scars, a fucked Harley, and a few grand in reparation. He got fourteen months in prison and by now will have returned to his very wealthy family and is no doubt back behind the wheel of another flash car.

To me the blame lies with a system that allows kids to buy powerful cars and run them uninsured (f'kin' madness!). At sixteen you don't much think about consequences so driving like a twat in a Subaru is just 'fun'.

We need a graduated licence scheme, an extended provisional period, and an increase in the minium driving age to about 19. A few years on scooters will teach them somthing about vulnerability and road sense.

[shafty]

I believe in Japan, once a Fine is imposed in court, the defendant is marched around the corner by a Police Officer to the payment office. No pay, they stay!

I'd imagine, friends/family etc would soon get pissed off bailing someone out and they would find their own level as it were..........

[madbikeboy]

Molly, thanks, you illustrated the point perfectly. There is no action without care that doesn't have consequence, and normally, the person on the recieving end gets the most impact.

SMOKEU, pull your head out of your ass - this is the consequence of the stupid boyracer stuff.

[Indiana_Jones]

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Don't be hard on the kids......:Police:

Whatever happened to Saturday night?

-Indy

[jaymzw]

We need a graduated licence scheme, an extended provisional period, and an increase in the minium driving age to about 19. A few years on scooters will teach them somthing about vulnerability and road sense.

Agreed, the majority of young people (myself included sometimes:stupid:) dont believe the rules apply to them. However i like to think i am a lot more level headed than the likes of my wanky friends who drive their daddys Lexus/Merc/BMW frequently at 200+ kmph.
The road sense thing is a good point, and im just trying to bring in a different angle here. A lot of my mates have bugger all road sense and dont know shit about how to actually drive fast. But their car has ABS brakes and the side curtain air bags, so they think they are 'all sweet bro'. The kids i am talking about are the 'rich kids', they dont care! Out of my mates, one has had a Drink driving charge, two have lost their lisence on demerits, and one on the spot who got dangerous driving for excessive speed. The worst was a friend, or i'd like to call him an associate, who knocked a man off his bicycle on East Coast Road toward Silverdale. All mentioned above are 16-17:spanking:
They have no idea how vulnerable they really are or how much danger they put themselves or their passengers or other road users in.

Anyway my rant over. The idea i wanted to raise was this. I am 16 and i can see getting your lisence at 15 is waaaaay to young for most. However i think, and this is my opinion only,being given a lisence to ride a 50cc scooter at 15 could do some good. As you said it would teach respect of the road, other vehicles and themselves. But most of all hopefully some may realise having a lisence is a privilidge, not a right. A problem that those on that Sunday doco failed to realise

[madbikeboy]

Yeah, good points James - most of us start out being invincible.

I think the key difference between my generation and yours was that the rich kids drove Escorts wiht about 60 rwhp - nowadays, you can buy a WRX for beer money...

You're a level headed young guy, you have a hell of a future ahead of you. Bling on its way.

[Indiana_Jones]

Good point made, I mean I fall into that age group (18-25) and sometimes you do feel invincible, but most of the time I feel exposed!

I know what my machine (read, not me) can do, and that scares the shit out of me lol!

-Indy

[ynot slow]

Well said James,imagine when daddies merc is up for crushing,maybe then the law will get through to these tossers.Yep we did similar stuff,i.e ripping up grass verges on country roads,drinking but one guy never drank so we had sober driver.

But then the ol escort or cortinas weren't more than 100hp,lucky to have power steering,only airbag was girls in the car.Still we thought we were 10' tall and bullet proof.Think we did more damage(no major)to our cars rather than the parents ones,especially once we were working and could buy our own.

A fine line between fun and deliberate vandalism,used to have a mall in Hawera,one Friday night a mates dad said between 6.30-8.30pm one car in our group went passed 45 times,so that would be bad news now,although no major stereo or exhaust noise,think he managed to put 100km on speedo tripmeter that night around town.

[Drogen Omen]

this was posted on here a couple months back cant remember by who, but i love the way that it describs them and makes so much sense so here it is again...



BOY RACERS - have I discovered the truth?
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Boy Racers – much has been said about these youths, however after much thought I have come to the conclusion that they may all have closet homosexual tendencies – whether they be aware of it or not.

I do not proclaim to be an expert on these matters, indeed I know very little of the homosexuals world other than what I have seen on TV, however I have listened to the occasional Wham song.

I would ask you to consider the following points and welcome your comments:

1. BR’s tend to meet in groups in poorly lit car-parks, street corners etc. Have these areas become the new ‘men’s toilets’?

2. Once more than two BR’s gather in these dark areas they immediately open their bonnets. I believe this opening of the bonnet has a phallic link – they are effectively saying to other BR’s ‘look at me, I’m erect and open to inspection’

3. After a BR opens his bonnet, he is often seen making a display of his buttocks by bending over the engine bay. Low-slung jeans and boxers have become part of the BR dress code to aid the display of butt crack. The displaying of buttocks in this manner is a widely accepted part of the matting ritual in the animal world; in this case they attract additional male BR’s.

4. Large bore exhausts – there’s fairly obvious anal links here with such a large noisy hole being at the rear of the vehicle. Again these are proudly displayed for following BR’s to see.

5. Tinted windows – I have often noticed numerous BR’s getting into a single vehicle. Just what goes on in these cars when the doors are closed?

6. Caps on backwards. WTF is it with this look - it cannot be a fashion statement, as it looks stupid, so I conclude it must be functional. This stumped me for some time until it dawned on me that you could not give a decent blowjob wearing a cap with the peak forward. Reverse the peak and…well…’bobs’ your uncle.

7. Finally, and quite conclusively I believe, if I sit at the lights in my little 1500cc car next to a BR and start to rev up my engine they usually respond by giving me a ‘wanking’ type of sign with their hands. Now I understand that despite being considerably older than the average BR, I am an attractive example of maleness – obviously these young BR’s think so as they make their desires to preform a lewd act on me clear with their gesturing.

[madbikeboy]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2479082/Boyracer-crash-closes-railway-line

[Genestho]

Residents barricade in boyracers, call police Article (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10577352&pnum=2)


"We are sick of the destruction and menace ... We want to create a real deterrent and the residents are going to do their utmost to discourage it and call police."

He said the history of offenders should be available to lending institutions.

Senior Sergeant Ian Campion, of road policing, said the residents were "perfectly justified" in barricading in the racers.

"To be perfectly honest, I don't blame residents for taking that kind of action," he said.


Mr Campion said while the residents were technically obstructing a roadway by blocking off the cul-de-sac, in the circumstances police would not take any action against them.

He believed that anyone who took a drunk driver off the road was doing a good thing.

"They prevented a drunk driver from continuing driving and putting everybody else at risk. In that case their actions are to be applauded," Mr Campion said.

[MSTRS]

But since he's on the topic of boy racers killing innocents:
Young girl killed on the shore a few years back by a boy racer.
Pedestrian (young female) killed in Ponsonby after she stepped out in front of a drag race
2-3 boy racers killed on the sidelines of impromptu drag races that I can recall in the last ten years (wish the number was higher...)
5 boy racers killed on east coast road, lost control at over 200 kph
2 minutes further up the road, young woma lost control of her new WRX, she died, along with a passenger from memory...

No outsiders hurt, but 4 out of 5 in a car were killed in Hastings a couple of years back. Doing 140+kph in a 50kph residential street. They weren't even racing another car. Hit a tree, when the driver swerved to avoid a car turning out of a side street.
Moral of the story? Get them on their own, cos then they are vulnerable...

[Marmoot]

No outsiders hurt, but 4 out of 5 in a car were killed in Hastings a couple of years back. Doing 140+kph in a 50kph residential street. They weren't even racing another car.

Can't have boyracing without racing, just as we can't have manslaughter without man's laughter. :sunny:

[marty]

And when you look at the fatal crash statistics the vast majority of fatalities on our roads are caused by the average 40 year old driver who made a fuck up, not boy racers. It's about time the government got its' priorities right and started cracking down on the REALLY dangerous behaviour such as unsafe overtaking, drunk drivers etc.

If you're gonna make statements of apparent fact, at least be able to back them up

<table class="normal" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="2"><tbody><tr><td width="150">Casualty Ages: </td><td>


</td><td>


</td><td>


</td><td>


</td></tr><tr><td width="150">0-14 yrs </td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
23
</td></tr><tr><td width="150">15-19 yrs </td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
54
</td></tr><tr><td width="150">20-24 yrs </td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
63
</td></tr><tr><td width="150">25-39 yrs </td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
89
</td></tr><tr><td width="150">40-59 yrs </td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
79
</td></tr><tr><td width="150">60 + yrs </td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
77
</td></tr><tr><td width="150">unknown </td><td>
3
</td><td>
1
</td><td>
3
</td><td>
2
</td></tr></tbody></table>

(from LTSA 2009 current stats)

[brentmc]

After a quick flick over the replies placed i can't see a comment that points the FINGER at our own goverment for allowing import cars into the country that drove the prices down that low and worse of all CREDIT CONTROL being that bloody hopless these kids could buy a $15000 - $30000 car for only $1 deposit. Ask your self people who gave it to these kids on a PLATE. Don't get me wrong, what these shits are upto isn't good but i dont put all the blame on them, after all if imports were not introduced 20yrs ago and credit control was alot tighter 70% of these kids wouldn't have these CARS!!!!!!!!!

[scumdog]

After a quick flick over the replies placed i can't see a comment that points the FINGER at our own goverment for allowing import cars into the country that drove the prices down that low and worse of all CREDIT CONTROL being that bloody hopless these kids could buy a $15000 - $30000 car for only $1 deposit. Ask your self people who gave it to these kids on a PLATE. Don't get me wrong, what these shits are upto isn't good but i dont put all the blame on them, after all if imports were not introduced 20yrs ago and credit control was alot tighter 70% of these kids wouldn't have these CARS!!!!!!!!!

I already posted much the same.

It's going to be tough to sort this mess out imho what with finance companies, dreaming do-gooders and civil liberty twats screeching their heads off.

[slowpoke]

Okey dokey, so there's a problem with young 'uns being stoopid in their veehickles. My problem is the over-reaction and demonising of what is a minor problem in the scale of things.

If you walk up to someone with a gun and blow their head off, you don't have your car impounded.

If you beat up an old guy outside a bowling club your car isn't crushed.

If you break into an old lady's house and rape her in her own bed you don't have any property confiscated and sold off.

Young violent offender? A good hard dose of community service will make you see the error of your ways (tui)

Pushing drugs? Home detention will do for you, son. What's that? you wanna keep working and making money? Sure, no problem.

Sure hoons are a pain in the arse and present a danger to themselves and others but there are far worse problems in our society/judicial approach that warrant more urgent attention. By and large we are just puppets dancing on the end of the media's strings. Here we are getting all wound up about the latest sensationalised headlines while the mishandling and ignorance of the bigger issues continues unabated.