Hmmmm. Why?

[Breed777]

Ok so im on my learners..... on the open road today and decided to sit at 100 since I think the law sucks and its my neck and I feel safer at 100 than doing 70 and getting a Kenworth up my butt....

anyway....

Sitting at 100, and look in my mirror (yes i use em!) and some pocket rocket comes flying past me (had to be doing 130-140 easy)....


Heres my question.... seems everyone on here is about safety.... the gear required, the quality of the roads, bike maintenance etc all this to keep us alive and safe....

So.... Why do people speed? that guy could have comfortably sat behind me at 100....i was doing the limit....

I remember when the speed limit used to be 80km on the open road.... people did 100..... now its 100... people do 120-130....

Whats with doing everything you can to stay alive and then break the speed limit.....

in saying that... around town i do 50 and god it feels slow!



Is the 100km/hr limit just too slow? can bikes and cars safely go faster? or are people just saying they know better than the law?

Im sure there are guys on here who could easly ride round at 180kph and never crash....Watched Karate Kid this weekend....'Learn to fight so you never have too' great quote...

I wanna learn to ride over 100 so I never have to (unless on a track)...

your thoughts....

oh, and had i swerved to miss debris that rider today would be picking his face off the road... and I would probably be dead....:bash:

[Ragingrob]

I think you only have to check out places like Germany to discover whether people can drive faster than 100 and still be safe.

Road infrastructure has a great deal to do with it though, our country definitely does not have roads like the autobahn. Licensing also plays a massive part.

[MSTRS]

You ask 'Why?"....the answer is simple "Cos we can".
And I don't agree with your theory re 100-120/130. There are very few that will do that these days. Many more stick at <95.

[FJRider]

The only limits are the one's you set yourself.

There are laws though ... ignore them and it may cost. Not just in monetary values either ...

[Breed777]

I think you only have to check out places like Germany to discover whether people can drive faster than 100 and still be safe.

Road infrastructure has a great deal to do with it though, our country definitely does not have roads like the autobahn. Licensing also plays a massive part.

Yeah thats a good point. I have been driving cars for about 15 yrs and to be honest I have done 120...but I am still happy to sit at 100 99% of the time.

Maybe I just dont have a need for speed...saying that on both the bike and in the cage I will zap round town at 60-65 most of the time (and that seems to be the consensus with traffic)... in tauranga round town its either 35 or 65...nothing in between

[MSTRS]

And the 'speed' thing of which you mention...
Most of us aren't too bothered about speed per se...it is 'speed inappropriate for the conditions' that rattles our cages.

[Breed777]

You ask 'Why?"....the answer is simple "Cos we can".
And I don't agree with your theory re 100-120/130. There are very few that will do that these days. Many more stick at <95.

I guess alot depends on the area your from... here is the Bay Of Plenty I vote we have the worst drivers in NZ.... even in the cage I feel safer in Auckland... its like you guys are prepared for something to happen and your ready for it... Tauranga is full of old grannies who mistake a driveway for a street and take out half a house (Dont laugh it happened here last year!)

[Breed777]

And the 'speed' thing of which you mention...
Most of us aren't too bothered about speed per se...it is 'speed inappropriate for the conditions' that rattles our cages.

Your bike has a cage? that an aftermarket thing...:Punk:

[MSTRS]

I guess alot depends on the area your from... here is the Bay Of Plenty I vote we have the worst drivers in NZ.... even in the cage I feel safer in Auckland... its like you guys are prepared for something to happen and your ready for it... Tauranga is full of old grannies who mistake a driveway for a street and take out half a house (Dont laugh it happened here last year!)

You don't spend much time out on the open road? Poor drivers are everywhere and so are the infuriatingly slow.
The few times I find myself in Aucks on the MW, I'll sit at 105ish and I can assure you that very few pass me. It's more likely I'll be doing the passing.
The same applies more or less everywhere else I go too.

[Brownstoo]

I always cage at 100 coz my car doesn't go faster lol, and when I'm riding it's usually 100 coz I like my licence, and not paying fines, not because it's unsafe.

It's not really that 100 is the safe speed to go. It's just a random number they picked, and most people got used to driving at that speed.
In South Africa they changed the limit from 90 to 120 or something, people crashed and died for a while, but then the road toll went down as people got comfortable with the new limit. It's like that, the safest speed is whatever speed you're comfortable riding with.
And learning to go fast is just an experience thing, comes with time I guess.

And yeah the 'speed' thing is more of a 'stupid' thing. More when people do stupid things than simply go fast.

[Breed777]

You don't spend much time out on the open road? Poor drivers are everywhere and so are the infuriatingly slow.
The few times I find myself in Aucks on the MW, I'll sit at 105ish and I can assure you that very few pass me. It's more likely I'll be doing the passing.

Dont spend alot of time on the open road but in my experience I have never passed a vehicle doing 100.... whats the point.... I only wanna do 100 anyway.... and its nice to have a car ahead sometimes...
Id pass someone doing 80 for sure... Im sure cops get that excuse all the time ' I was just doing 120 cause I was passing that other guy doing the limit'

Im happy to do 100 and if the guy behind me is gettin pissed off well I suggest some green tea and and some Enigma...:scooter:

[Ragingrob]

Yeah it makes a big difference as to what you're used to. I'm constantly in 100kph areas on country roads etc and that was where I learnt to drive and ride, so I'm used to it and everything under 105kph feels slow some days.

[Breed777]

Yeah it makes a big difference as to what you're used to. I'm constantly in 100kph areas on country roads etc and that was where I learnt to drive and ride, so I'm used to it and everything under 105kph feels slow some days.

Yeah Im definately more of a city commuter....
Still Have seen guys at the light pull away fast and wheelie it for 50 metres up the road...

Never found it impressive and no desire to do it... Mr Suzuki gave me 2 wheels I intend to use em both :ride:

[Ixion]

Ok so im on my learners..... on the open road today and decided to sit at 100 since I think the law sucks and its my neck and I feel safer at 100 than doing 70 and getting a Kenworth up my butt....

anyway....

Sitting at 100, and look in my mirror (yes i use em!) and some pocket rocket comes flying past me (had to be doing 130-140 easy)....


Heres my question.... seems everyone on here is about safety.... the gear required, the quality of the roads, bike maintenance etc all this to keep us alive and safe....

So.... Why do people speed? that guy could have comfortably sat behind me at 100....i was doing the limit....

I remember when the speed limit used to be 80km on the open road.... people did 100..... now its 100... people do 120-130....

Whats with doing everything you can to stay alive and then break the speed limit.....

in saying that... around town i do 50 and god it feels slow!



Is the 100km/hr limit just too slow? can bikes and cars safely go faster? or are people just saying they know better than the law?

Im sure there are guys on here who could easly ride round at 180kph and never crash....Watched Karate Kid this weekend....'Learn to fight so you never have too' great quote...

I wanna learn to ride over 100 so I never have to (unless on a track)...

your thoughts....

oh, and had i swerved to miss debris that rider today would be picking his face off the road... and I would probably be dead....:bash:

Are you sure that you would not be happier with a nice beige Corolla ?

[NDORFN]

When I'm in the car, I sit on 109 on the open road, and 55 in town for the obvious reason that when you're in a large, heavy object travelling in a flow of other large, heavy objects it pays to go with it. When I'm on the bike... anything goes.

[Breed777]

Are you sure that you would not be happier with a nice beige Corolla ?

Heres a riddle...

A Beige Corolla and a GSXR K7 1000 both doing the speed limit from the day they are made till the day they break down... never going over 100..... which is faster?
:sunny:

[Breed777]

I think its the human preoccupation with speed...

I teach guitar for a living and all the kids wanna play fast fast fast.... I can play fast.... but its the gaps inbetween that make you good.... each to their own.... you wanna ride at 130 sweet.... but dont race past me at that speed, no indication, within 2 feet of my bike with an L plate on. If all riders were like that I would buy a Corolla. Thankfully most people seem pretty tolerant of learners (my few stalls at the lights and no beeping horns!)

[NighthawkNZ]

your thoughts....


My guess most people around here sit around 120... there will be a few that do do the million miles per hour every where they go...

However... time and place... no point doing 180 down state hwy 1 that is heavily patroled... thats where you sit just above the speed of the traffic... unless you are wanting to be caught

[NDORFN]

I think its the human preoccupation with speed...

I teach guitar for a living and all the kids wanna play fast fast fast.... I can play fast.... but its the gaps inbetween that make you good.... each to their own.... you wanna ride at 130 sweet.... but dont race past me at that speed, no indication, within 2 feet of my bike with an L plate on. If all riders were like that I would buy a Corolla. Thankfully most people seem pretty tolerant of learners (my few stalls at the lights and no beeping horns!)

I think the "within 2 feet of my bike" is the issue there. It's not your place to tell anyone else how fast they can go, aslong as they give you room and thier actions don't effect you. In this case, 2 feet, that's fucking insane. What if you'd swerved 2 feet to avoid a pot-hole... for that reason alone, those dudes need a bullet.

[slofox]

Why speed?...Hmmm. A lot of it has been said in "coz ya can". Another part of it is that "bikes can"...with bells on!
Some days I will sit right on 100k for hours, quite happily. Another day I might be out on a familiar piece of sweepie road, no traffic, wonderful conditions etc and next thing I know I am at 120...and find myself looking over my shoulder to check if there is any traffic round - 'specially if it might be law enforcement traffic...
I usually make a point of staying under 110...typically round 108. This usually matches the ambient traffic speed and keeps me in a safe space - I do work to find a space to ride in - I hate being tailgated or trapped in a wolf-pack. That's where the danger lies IMO. While you are in your own space, you are safer.
Anyone who has ridden with me might have noticed that I give myself a lot of room between my bike and the traffic in front. I want to have a buffer zone if I have to stop suddenly, especially if someone is right up close behind. In an extreme case, I have been known to slow right up, move left and wave the tailgater through. I would rather have them in front than sitting on my arse. Much safer gone.
So yes, I do drift over the limit at times, but try not to be a lunatic about it. I certainly don't overdo it if the conditions are not good. More to the point, I ride to the conditions on the day. So far, so good.

[Breed777]

My guess most people around here sit around 120... there will be a few that do do the million miles per hour every where they go...

However... time and place... no point doing 180 down state hwy 1 that is heavily patroled... thats where you sit just above the speed of the traffic... unless you are wanting to be caught


That is true...I guess being a learner, already 30km/hr over what I am meant to be doing kinda sucks that people fly past you like your holding up traffic...specially when if the gimp had off crashed Id be the one that would be first on the scene to deal with him... (I had this happen once in a car.... passed doing 150.... and about 2km down the road found the car upside down...scared the shit out of me)

[Jantar]

I usually travel a bit above 100 kmh. Mainly its because I like to use the better fuel economy available when I'm in top gear and at 100 kmh my bike is most comfortable in 4th or 5th gear. 6th only starts to become usable at 100 kmh and is happiest at around 110 - 115 kmh.

[Ixion]

Heres a riddle...

A Beige Corolla and a GSXR K7 1000 both doing the speed limit from the day they are made till the day they break down... never going over 100..... which is faster?
:sunny:

Reason not the need
Allow not Nature more than nature's need
And man's life were cheap as beast's

[Breed777]

Yeah it was more the 2 feet thing that got me and like I said the fact is if he did indeed crash I would be the first one there having to deal with it.
I understand alot of guys can handle speed etc...I guess I am just happy at 100 and if ya need to pass me, indicate and give me a bit of room, cause I have had to swerve before and I dont wanna collide with someone doing 130!

[Laxi]

I can remember in my younger days regularly doing 180 on the himatangis, and there were a lot of others doing those speeds then, seems to me that people have slowed down a lot since then not the other way round

[imdying]

I know thinking for yourself can be a bit hard at times, but you should be able to work out that if they don't want you going over 70, then that's because they don't want you riding on roads with a limit higher than 70.

Currently you're not qualified or legally allowed to ride on the open road, although they've stopped short at making it an actual offence. Perhaps they should, it would solve any questions on the matter.

[firefighter]

Maybe I just dont have a need for speed...saying that on both the bike and in the cage I will zap round town at 60-65 most of the time


you wanna ride at 130 sweet.... but dont race past me at that speed, no indication, within 2 feet of my bike with an L plate on.

hmmmph, nice to see that you only tend to speed where pedestrians /kids and built up traffic is........imo the worst place to do it..........then bleat on wondering why people ride at over 100.....where imo I beleive there are far less hazards......hypocritical much ?!

If you did'nt move left to let me past i'd pass you like that too! I hardly use my indicators for passing either.....never for a bike, I expect other bikers to give me room as cars and trucks seem to manage to do......if a bikes coming up from behind,give up some of your massive lane and let him pass.....

[Deano]

I think the law sucks and its my neck and I feel safer at 100 than doing 70 and getting a Kenworth up my butt....


I'm sure the intention of the law was to require newbies to stick to 70kph zones or less to build up their confidence, before braving it on the big bad open road. :bash:

[NDORFN]

If you did'nt move left to let me past i'd pass you like that too! I hardly use my indicators for passing either.....never for a bike, I expect other bikers to give me room as cars and trucks seem to manage to do......if a bikes coming up from behind,give up some of your massive lane and let him pass.....

Is the entire right-hand lane enough room for ya?

[vindy500]

Are you sure that you would not be happier with a nice beige Corolla ?

girlfriends got one of those.... blocked in the garage by our flats 4 bikes, one being hers :woohoo:

[Breed777]

hmmmph, nice to see that you only tend to speed where pedestrians /kids and built up traffic is........imo the worst place to do it..........then bleat on wondering why people ride at over 100.....where imo I beleive there are far less hazards......hypocritical much ?!

If you did'nt move left to let me past i'd pass you like that too! I hardly use my indicators for passing either.....never for a bike, I expect other bikers to give me room as cars and trucks seem to manage to do......if a bikes coming up from behind,give up some of your massive lane and let him pass.....

I was doing 100 and i was far enough left that he had plenty of room to get round without coming within 2ft of me ....
I do 60 in town casue thats the speed the flow of traffic is doing.... if its just me I do 50...
And you dont use your indicators when you pass? law abiding huh. hypocritical much ?!

[Breed777]

I'm sure the intention of the law was to require newbies to stick to 70kph zones or less to build up their confidence, before braving it on the big bad open road. :bash:

Im sure it is... point is I was doing 100, and quite safely.... reagrdless of a yellow L plate there is no need for a rider to fly past at 130 within 2 ft of me.
Its purely reckless and the guy was just trying to be cool and show off to a newer rider.

[Ragingrob]

He was probably on his learners too who knows!

Yes bikers can be dicks just like any other individual. Had someone pass me on the inside in my own lane on the motorway the other day when it was moderately busy just cause they felt like it.

[Breed777]

He was probably on his learners too who knows!

Yes bikers can be dicks just like any other individual. Had someone pass me on the inside in my own lane on the motorway the other day when it was moderately busy just cause they felt like it.


Sadly if you had of pulled left it probably would of been you thar bore the brunt of any injuries. Its the same with the drunk drivers. They tend to be relaxed at the time of a crash and its the people they hit that in fact take the full force.

[rosie631]

I generally ride at 120. Not comfortable doing too much more than that.

[NighthawkNZ]

That is true...I guess being a learner, already 30km/hr over what I am meant to be doing kinda sucks that people fly past you like your holding up traffic...specially when if the gimp had off crashed Id be the one that would be first on the scene to deal with him... (I had this happen once in a car.... passed doing 150.... and about 2km down the road found the car upside down...scared the shit out of me)

You will find on the bike once you get your confidence and all, you will happily just sit above the speed of the flowing traffic... you will also find that you won't need to slow down for a hell of a lot of the corners where cage drivers are... this alone can appear that the bike was travelling alot faster than you think but in reality it wasn't really... (but again some do...)

I know on one particular road I travel a bit there is only 2 corners where I have to slow down too under the 100kph to get round... one is a sharp 90 degree and I can do it at 70-75... (well once or twice I have ;) most of the time I get stuck behind a cage doing 45... :doh: ) the second goes over a rise and is blind till you are near on it... and I even though I know where the road goes... it just my nemesis corner... mutter mutter mutter

Now I have had people comment asking what speed I was doing as thought I was flying... but I was cruising at 105 and they were doing 95 but slowing down for 99% of the corners... (personally I am not sure why its a nice open wide road...:scratch: and they should in theory be able to keep up...


I'm sure the intention of the law was to require newbies to stick to 70kph zones or less to build up their confidence, before braving it on the big bad open road. :bash:

The law came to be when the open road speed limit was only 80kph... when the open road speed limit was upped to 100kph in the mid 80's the 70kph learner rule didn't get up dated to coincide, we now have a 30kph speed difference when it only use to be 10...

nOOb cage drivers should also have some speed limit cause I have seen some bloody shocking done by knobs...

[Bend-it]

I don't get the point of this thread...

You decide what speed you want to ride at, and let others decide what speed they want to ride at. If they're coming up from behind you, then move left and let them pass.

If they want to ride at 130, then what is it to you? Just stay at your comfortable 100 and carry on...

Ohhh I forget... it's KB on the interweeb...

Did you or he wave?

[firefighter]

I was doing 100 and i was far enough left that he had plenty of room to get round without coming within 2ft of me ....
I do 60 in town casue thats the speed the flow of traffic is doing.... if its just me I do 50...
And you dont use your indicators when you pass? law abiding huh. hypocritical much ?!

Huh? Show me where I mention being law abiding...........ya wally

I do use indicators to pass when it's more than one vehicle .....othertimes it's not usually ncessary as they've moved over or so quick it's not necessary......I make a judgement call.....i'm not obsessed with the rulebook......

As for the mentioned incident.....well yeah the guy was a douche about it.....no arguement here......

For the record I generally do give learners more space and wouldn't pass an L-plater like that....

[BuckBuck#1]

The only limits are the one's you set yourself.

There are laws though ... ignore them and it may cost. Not just in monetary values either ...


…Anyone who has ridden with me might have noticed that I give myself a lot of room between my bike and the traffic in front. I want to have a buffer zone if I have to stop suddenly, especially if someone is right up close behind. In an extreme case, I have been known to slow right up, move left and wave the tailgater through. I would rather have them in front than sitting on my arse. Much safer gone.


I'm sure the intention of the law was to require newbies to stick to 70kph zones or less to build up their confidence, before braving it on the big bad open road. :bash:

I agree with the comments above.


It was very rare that, on my Learners, I rode above the 70kph limit. Why? Because like Deano says, it takes time to build up confidence.

If and when we want to go faster than the limit imposed, ask yourself:

'Do I have the confidence to emergency brake from 70kph, 80kph, 90kph, 100kph and 100+kph?'

How you get that confidence and where you practise, with a Mentor, may help in answering the question.

Good Luck and Ride Safe

[yungatart]

You happily ride at 100 kph (which is 30 kph over your speed limit) but are unhappy about others riding 30 kph over their limit of 100 kph.

Bit hypocritical, don't you think?

[Bend-it]

For the record I generally do give learners more space and wouldn't pass an L-plater like that....

Pahh!! If you don't want a scare, drive a hummer... Scares toughen you up...

I always pass learners with 4cm elbow-room, doing at least twice their speed, on half their number of wheels. Makes them stronger in the long run...

:wari::wari::wari:

[been_there]

What would "Chopper Reid" say about this:
HTFU :baby:

[rosie631]

What would "Chopper Reid" say about this:
HTFU :baby:

Exactly

10 char

[tigertim20]

I personally ride however I am comfortable, and that changes on the same road every day. Some roads, which I know well, and am aware of conditions etc, I often go through at 130-140, I dont look at the speedo, I judge by 'feel' if that makes sense. I 'feel' the bike, and am aware of my surroundings, other days, on the same road, I might do 90, or 80 if its pissing down and Im in no hurry.
Basically I have a habit of not looking at the speedo, and just riding as I feel comfortable, yeah I know, bad habit not looking at the speedo, but that is how I ride. And in doing so, when I am pulled over, I just accept the ticket. I chose to speed, I chose to risk a ticket, so I accept the ticket. thats just how I do it.
my 2 cents

[hang0ver]

Maybe you should avoid the GSXR line of bikes for your road riding future? Any of the 600-above would be wasted on you.

[crazyhorse]

You happily ride at 100 kph (which is 30 kph over your speed limit) but are unhappy about others riding 30 kph over their limit of 100 kph.

Bit hypocritical, don't you think?

I have to agree with Yungatart - but you ride however you like - some people just love speed and it does not necessarily mean we endanger the lives of others on the road.

Speed limit?? I didn't think anyone sat on that on a bike anyway.....

[LaytonNZ]

Ok so im on my learners..... on the open road today and decided to sit at 100 since I think the law sucks and its my neck and I feel safer at 100 than doing 70 and getting a Kenworth up my butt....

anyway....

Sitting at 100, and look in my mirror (yes i use em!) and some pocket rocket comes flying past me (had to be doing 130-140 easy)....


Heres my question.... seems everyone on here is about safety.... the gear required, the quality of the roads, bike maintenance etc all this to keep us alive and safe....

So.... Why do people speed? that guy could have comfortably sat behind me at 100....i was doing the limit....

I remember when the speed limit used to be 80km on the open road.... people did 100..... now its 100... people do 120-130....

Whats with doing everything you can to stay alive and then break the speed limit.....

in saying that... around town i do 50 and god it feels slow!



Is the 100km/hr limit just too slow? can bikes and cars safely go faster? or are people just saying they know better than the law?

Im sure there are guys on here who could easly ride round at 180kph and never crash....Watched Karate Kid this weekend....'Learn to fight so you never have too' great quote...

I wanna learn to ride over 100 so I never have to (unless on a track)...

your thoughts....

oh, and had i swerved to miss debris that rider today would be picking his face off the road... and I would probably be dead....:bash:

I refuse to sit behind car's beacuse i cant see as far as i would like to so..i go a bit faster then the trafic

[Breed777]

You happily ride at 100 kph (which is 30 kph over your speed limit) but are unhappy about others riding 30 kph over their limit of 100 kph.

Bit hypocritical, don't you think?

I do so in that I dont endanger people in the flow of traffic... Have spoken with a mate (who is a cop) who suggested its safer for me to go 100 than it is to go 70 on the open road. Unfortunately I have to travel on an open road to get to work otherwise I would avoid it till my restricted.

My main grievence was not the guys speed... but mainly overtaking within 2 ft of me, when I was quite far left and he never needed to be that close....

[Breed777]

What would "Chopper Reid" say about this:
HTFU :baby:

Would your comment be the same when this same idiot misjudges his spacing and leave some poor guy in a coma....

HTFU is fine....I can take a scare as much as anyone... Point is this guy endangered my life and quite possibly the life of others HTFU is not gonna help me survive a crash

[Breed777]

Maybe you should avoid the GSXR line of bikes for your road riding future? Any of the 600-above would be wasted on you.

Why cause I prefer to ride safely? and dont wanna do 180km/hr?

[vindy500]

He was probably on his learners too who knows!

Yes bikers can be dicks just like any other individual. Had someone pass me on the inside in my own lane on the motorway the other day when it was moderately busy just cause they felt like it.

cause you were going to slow?

[Ragingrob]

cause you were going to slow?

I was going the speed of the traffic, as I said, it was moderately busy.

Even if I was going slow, the dude was breaking the law and putting me in danger. He wouldn't have known if I was looking in my mirrors or not.

[spacemonkey]

If you want people to drive/ride slower, just put the price of fuel up! :devil2:

It was incredible last year when 98 fuel was up around $2.30. Everyone was driving slow...... where previously if I was sitting on 110k :innocent: I'd be getting passed by a constant stream of cars, when the price was right up I could sit at 90-95 and it was rare to be passed.

I'm sure the government would be keen to put up the taxes.... for road safety of course if they thought of it. :yes::Pokey:
:chase:

[vindy500]

I was going the speed of the traffic, as I said, it was moderately busy.

Even if I was going slow, the dude was breaking the law and putting me in danger. He wouldn't have known if I was looking in my mirrors or not.

:yes:

that'd be why, who goes the speed of traffic on a motorway

[6ft5]

I generally ride at 120. Just comfortable doing not much more than that. :scooter:

[Ragingrob]

:yes:

that'd be why, who goes the speed of traffic on a motorway

So you don't mind people cutting past you on your left? Do you lane split when the traffic's traveling over 70kph?

[vindy500]

So you don't mind people cutting past you on your left? Do you lane split when the traffic's traveling over 70kph?

if i was going slow and yes

[Ragingrob]

if i was going slow and yes

Well then my friend you are one of these dipshits that put others in danger :first:

Undertaking a stranger going 80kph on a busy motorway is a really dumbarse thing to do.

[Cheshire Cat]

Ok so im on my learners..... on the open road today and decided to sit at 100 since I think the law sucks and its my neck and I feel safer at 100 than doing 70 and getting a Kenworth up my butt....

anyway....

Sitting at 100, and look in my mirror (yes i use em!) and some pocket rocket comes flying past me (had to be doing 130-140 easy)....


Heres my question.... seems everyone on here is about safety.... the gear required, the quality of the roads, bike maintenance etc all this to keep us alive and safe....

So.... Why do people speed? that guy could have comfortably sat behind me at 100....i was doing the limit....

I remember when the speed limit used to be 80km on the open road.... people did 100..... now its 100... people do 120-130....

Whats with doing everything you can to stay alive and then break the speed limit.....

in saying that... around town i do 50 and god it feels slow!



Is the 100km/hr limit just too slow? can bikes and cars safely go faster? or are people just saying they know better than the law?

Im sure there are guys on here who could easly ride round at 180kph and never crash....Watched Karate Kid this weekend....'Learn to fight so you never have too' great quote...

I wanna learn to ride over 100 so I never have to (unless on a track)...

your thoughts....

oh, and had i swerved to miss debris that rider today would be picking his face off the road... and I would probably be dead....:bash:

You sound like a little road :innocent:

People speed because- Its fun.LOL (well some of them are just morons. most infact.)

Going over 100 isnt bad.....unless youre driving/riding recklessly and don't know what you're doing.

[mnkyboy]

Reason not the need
Allow not Nature more than nature's need
And man's life were cheap as beast's

Which scarcely keeps thee warm. But, for true need.

Seems midly on topic ..... true need

As for speed, we are a populous beaten into submission by the propoganda of a controlling government. this ubiqutous propoganda has permeated society to the extent that people will mount their high horse and preach about "speed kills'

They say it is wrong to speed, They demand we wear a helmet, They decide that speeding is easy $$$; and persue it. (I will concede they also provide medical care if we fall off) However it is simply the 'I will get fined' thought that prevents me from doing 150kmh everywhere. I am comfortable at that speed and I accept the risks associated. Is it that we look at 150kph as terrible only because we are told it is?

No I haven't been drinking
No I havent been smoking pot
No I am not a hippy

[been_there]

Would your comment be the same when this same idiot misjudges his spacing and leave some poor guy in a coma....

HTFU is fine....I can take a scare as much as anyone... Point is this guy endangered my life and quite possibly the life of others HTFU is not gonna help me survive a crash

But it didn't happen did it. We could all live in the past over and over again but that wont help, will it?
BTW Did you get the Licence plate?

And before you ask yes I have had plenty of scares and a few bins. But as someone else mentioned previousily it does make you stronger if you can get over it.
If I have a problem with someone endangering my life I make sure they know about it..one way :bash: or another :Police:

[CookMySock]

I have never passed a vehicle doing 100.... eh? Slaying the traffic is 90% of the fun on a bike. I just lurrrve cutting them up.. a pass here, a spit there.. The more traffic,the more fun! Cut n' dice!

Steve

[hang0ver]

Why cause I prefer to ride safely? and dont wanna do 180km/hr?

No. Because GSXR roughly equals high speed performance (once you get above the 250's anyway). Maybe you should trade in for a cruiser?

I also like to ride safely. When its the right time'n'place I also like to give my bike some time in its element.

Everyone slice'n'dices every now and then. No ones perfect... What goes round comes round. Just to rail off a few cliches.

[Breed777]

No. Because GSXR roughly equals high speed performance (once you get above the 250's anyway). Maybe you should trade in for a cruiser?

I also like to ride safely. When its the right time'n'place I also like to give my bike some time in its element.

Everyone slice'n'dices every now and then. No ones perfect... What goes round comes round. Just to rail off a few cliches.

I'm sure I will to and I probably will end up with a cruiser and sport bike. I got no problem taking risks but I never intentionally endanger someones life and the only reason that guy is still breathing is cause I saw him coming . He is lucky I'm not suicidal cause one flick of the bars and we would both be gone. Anyhow saw him again on the way home from work yesterday. It's a new black ninja 250 nice looking bike but been told mine is faster so I slept with a smile. If I get a chance to talk to him filling up one day I'm gonna point that out or maybe scream it out as I cut past him

[Mom]

You don't spend much time out on the open road? Poor drivers are everywhere and so are the infuriatingly slow.

The open road drivers have to be the worst case of not driving to the conditions. I have posted about this before, but I think the defacto speed limit on the open road is 80kph. Drives me spare when stuck in my car behind people that simply cant get up to speed. All the signs telling you to slow down are a joke, doubt you could even get up to 100 most days.

I currently travel 17kms to work on open country roads. The speed limit imposed for part of it is 80kph. Everyday I find people creeping along at between 60 and 70, forget ever getting close to 80. The same applies once the road becomes 100kph, except this time I am travelling at 80. Drives me nuts.

[MarkH]

oh, and had i swerved to miss debris that rider today would be picking his face off the road... and I would probably be dead....:bash:

Clearly another reason for maintaining good situational awareness. Knowing a bike is coming past you don't swerve into their path, just as you would choose to swerve instead of brake hard when you know there is a truck tailgating you.

[Bend-it]

My main grievence was not the guys speed... but mainly overtaking within 2 ft of me, when I was quite far left and he never needed to be that close....

Which is why it was in your original post right? NOT...

You were offended that he rode faster than you, and maybe gave you a scare, came on here to bleat on about it, found no sympathy, so have now come up with a new allegation.

Are you or are you not, Mr Breed, a nana rider and a crybaby?

Man, I've been watching too many legal-dramas...


Anyhow saw him again on the way home from work yesterday. It's a new black ninja 250 nice looking bike but been told mine is faster so I slept with a smile.

Obviously not with you on it...

Having a bike with more HPs means nothing, NOTHING at all... A skilled rider on an fxr150 would leave me for dead on my 650 on a windy piece of road.

[Breed777]

Which is why it was in your original post right? NOT...

You were offended that he rode faster than you, and maybe gave you a scare, came on here to bleat on about it, found no sympathy, so have now come up with a new allegation.

Are you or are you not, Mr Breed, a nana rider and a crybaby?

Man, I've been watching too many legal-dramas...



Obviously not with you on it...

Having a bike with more HPs means nothing, NOTHING at all... A skilled rider on an fxr150 would leave me for dead on my 650 on a windy piece of road.


And after reading my bleating crybaby post (which you obviously feel is a complete waste of time) you still wasted you time by replying. and achieved nothing. Well done :third:

[Bend-it]

Maybe if you care to learn something from people's responses to your post, then the replies wouldn't have been for nothing...

HOWEVER... even if you don't, this is KB, who cares if it's all for nothing?!? :bleh:

[Breed777]

Maybe if you care to learn something from people's responses to your post, then the replies wouldn't have been for nothing...

HOWEVER... even if you don't, this is KB, who cares if it's all for nothing?!? :bleh:

I do learn.... and have learnt alot from the guys on here... there are some knowledgable, sensilble and helpful guys on here... then again there are also some :tugger:

[Bend-it]

true dat...

[firefighter]

Is the entire right-hand lane enough room for ya?

Not if there's cars in it.....

Reason I wrote that, was because heading down to THE mighty towelronga two weekends ago, I was riding through the gorge and I was held up by a motorcyclist, yep, a motorcyclist.
I had just passed a truck and several cars (who had all made room for me), yet mr homo fag on his big silver/grey sport tourer (not sure what the hell it was, and yes he definately saw me) decided that though he had no interest in passing anyone of the 4 cars in front of him, he would'nt be polite and move over for me either, he used his whole lane constantly.....swerving left to right (fine but wave me past FFS!) I passed him over the double lines after about 2mins of this shit, then pulled back into the left lane straight in front of him and passed the cars legally inside the yellows as the cars moved over for me.....

Go figure a motorcyclist of all people not letting me past.....then the cars in front of him giving me enough space to get through without crossing the lines.....

Hence I put that in.....so yes, the right hand lane is big enough, anus face, but not always useable on a narrow road with cars coming the other way. :Pokey:

[Bend-it]

anus face.... bwahahahaa!! :rofl:

[Metalor]

I don't know what all this fuss is about... I regualary do 220kmph on my Volty down the motorway.

[Mikkel]

Lamest troll ever...

[spacemonkey]

Lamest troll ever...

Lamest commonly used response to a troll ever...

:laugh::jerry: ;)

[Mikkel]

Lamest commonly used response to a troll ever...

:laugh::jerry: ;)

Lamest comeback, ever...

[Danae]

Lamest comeback, ever...

Lamest attempt to carry this on, ever...

[xgnr]

Damn law breakers...