Why is it that newbie bikers...

[wbks]

Feel the need to complain about everything they feel doesn't comply with what they perceive as, and what other more experienced bikers have told them is, appropriate behavior? I'm a n00b myself, but people whining about someone getting too close, someone speeding/not going fast enough and "giving us all a bad name" or someone who doesn't wear all the gear, seems pretty common on here, and the weird thing is that most of it is from people still on their L plate. So what is it that makes people feel the need to do that? Do some people here feel the need to speak out for certain things so that they fit in more?

[p.dath]

And why do we have wars? I guess we just can't all agree. :-)

[wbks]

And why do we have wars? I guess we just can't all agree. :-)Money, political situations, economic stresses, religion, power... But about cry baby new riders...

[Maha]

Some people just the like the sound of their own voice or in some cases, what they type. There will always be a greater and lesser person than yourself. Avoid loud and aggresive persons, they are vexations to the spirit.

[p.dath]

And don't forget, you can use the "rep" button to indicate those people/replies that you think are more valuable.

[AllanB]

I like to think happy motorcycle thoughts...........

[sil3nt]

Crying about crying. Well done.

[wbks]

Crying about crying. Well done.Crying? Lol, since when was a question a cry? Did I show any negative emotion or say how pissed off I am about it? That would be crying. I'm just curious as to why people do what I said

[Usarka]

I like to think happy motorcycle thoughts...........

What motorcycle?

[Slyer]

Crying? Lol, since when was a question a cry? Did I show any negative emotion or say how pissed off I am about it? That would be crying. I'm just curious as to why people do what I said
Jeez, whinge moar.

[Cheshire Cat]

Crying about crying. Well done.

Yea whats next....?:blank:

[Ronin]

Some people just the like the sound of their own voice or in some cases, what they type. There will always be a greater and lesser person than yourself. Avoid loud and aggresive persons, they are vexations to the spirit.

Ahhhh Desiderata. :niceone:

[tigertim20]

Feel the need to complain about everything they feel doesn't comply with what they perceive as, and what other more experienced bikers have told them is, appropriate behavior? I'm a n00b myself, but people whining about someone getting too close, someone speeding/not going fast enough and "giving us all a bad name" or someone who doesn't wear all the gear, seems pretty common on here, and the weird thing is that most of it is from people still on their L plate. So what is it that makes people feel the need to do that? Do some people here feel the need to speak out for certain things so that they fit in more?

Dude, we all have different ideas of what a biker is, thats obvious based on the fact that we all ride different bikes, at different speeds etc etc, and like you say, they are often noobs, so they are still learning. I tell people I am a biker, and they step backwards, get to know me, and they find out I am a good bastard, we all have preconceived ideas, and they change based on the experiences we have. Think of those posts as an opportunity to weed out the people who are like you, and those who arent, weed out the people you want to assosciate with. Thats what I do. I have made some fuckin great friends by doing that so far!!
Good luck, may see you on the roads sometime :scooter:

[Ronin]

Feel the need to complain about everything they feel doesn't comply with what they perceive as, and what other more experienced bikers have told them is, appropriate behavior? I'm a n00b myself, but people whining about someone getting too close, someone speeding/not going fast enough and "giving us all a bad name" or someone who doesn't wear all the gear, seems pretty common on here, and the weird thing is that most of it is from people still on their L plate. So what is it that makes people feel the need to do that? Do some people here feel the need to speak out for certain things so that they fit in more?

Think of new bikers as temporary born again christians and it all makes sense.

[avgas]

hey.....

they are squids......

don't judge them until you know them

mwahahahahaha

also it seems to not just be restrained to newbees, some of the old codgers on here are slightly retarded as well.

[Maha]

Ahhhh Desiderata. :niceone:

Part of yes...the first of crap was mine....:niceone:

[AllanB]

some of the old codgers on here are slightly retarded as well.

:niceone::niceone::niceone:

[Fatt Max]

Some people just the like the sound of their own voice or in some cases, what they type. There will always be a greater and lesser person than yourself. Avoid loud and aggresive persons, they are vexations to the spirit.

Nice work, desiderata on KB, a HUGE coup, well done that man.

That poem has many relevances to this thread in my opinion, we have all been newbies and we have all had an opinion, my fat self included.

Yes, When I announced to the world that I was giving up heavyweight pole dancing and getting into biking, there were raised eyebrows all around, and no end of advice from people who now, I find, really knew not what they were talking about.

So perception of many bike related things came from uneducated or ignorant sources, and if you get enough of those in front of you, an opinion forms and you feel it is your right to spout it, which in fact it is in our fantastic free world.

One of the best lines in movie history did come from one of the worst movies in history (GI Jane, although Demi does have exceptional knockolades, eh gringo)...the line being:

"If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you"

So let all have an opinion and let it be thrown out there for the rest of us to disect and analyse. Maha, you have hit the nail fair and square on the cranium matey, good onya.

Did that sound ok, felt as though I rushed it......

[nosebleed]

No. It sounded fine. Really

[NDORFN]

Considering this thread is one massive contradiction in terms, it's getting alot of attention. I guess the answer is that people like drama. Especially riders in winter.

[Mschvs]

Why can't we just all get along .... haha ... it'll never happen!

[Mschvs]

No one will admit to liking drama, they just thrive on it ... give you something to disagree with people about ....:chase:

And the more drama, the more need to disagree, and the longer more laughable posts you will find in your forums!! Lol

[LaytonNZ]

I like to think happy motorcycle thoughts...........

Great minds think alike!:first:

[Katman]

It's much the same way that the meatheads on here think that smacking off wing mirrors and booting in car doors will improve the lot of motorcyclists as a whole.

:weird:

[owner]

It's much the same way that the meatheads on here think that smacking off wing mirrors and booting in car doors will improve the lot of motorcyclists as a whole.

:weird:

It's much the same way that the meatheads on here mis quote you and tell you how to ride, how to behave as if that will improve the lot of motorcyclists as a whole.

:weird:

[Cheshire Cat]

Feel the need to complain about everything they feel doesn't comply with what they perceive as, and what other more experienced bikers have told them is, appropriate behavior? I'm a n00b myself, but people whining about someone getting too close, someone speeding/not going fast enough and "giving us all a bad name" or someone who doesn't wear all the gear, seems pretty common on here, and the weird thing is that most of it is from people still on their L plate. So what is it that makes people feel the need to do that? Do some people here feel the need to speak out for certain things so that they fit in more?

Who gives a fuck mate. Just worry about yourself.

[Katman]

It's much the same way that the meatheads on here mis quote you and tell you how to ride, how to behave as if that will improve the lot of motorcyclists as a whole.

:weird:

If you say so.

:tugger:



For the record, I believe I have only ever advocated looking at ways and means to ensure your own safety (and hopefully, in consequence, the safety of motorcyclists in general).

If that upsets you, stiff fuckin' shit.

[gatch]

I'm not especially a fan of people whinging for the sake of it, but if that's how they need to express themselves than who am I to judge..

I live with a couple of nerdlingers who whinge about the shit coffee at work and how the air conditioning is 1 deg too hot etc etc, deal with it eh, ignore it, don't whinge more.. Its a vicious cycle..

[Conquiztador]

...as the sound of their whinging infiltrated his senses and grew louder, starting to affect his ability to concentrate on the details of his masterplan and his hand streatched out towards the red button displaying the engraved "Press only if they really start to piss you off", he knew it had to be done...

[Shaun S]

some people should consider what and how others feel before they type. just be harmoniousI will harmonious you up the arse, stop sending me spam dude.

[Thani-B]

What motorcycle?

There was one there...


I will harmonious you up the arse, stop sending me spam dude.

Gosh I thought I was special lol.

Some people just dont see themselves as complaining/crying about things. They might honestly think they are just making a point about something that has happened to them in their short life of riding.

[wbks]

The wierd thing is that he sent me a PM shortly after I said in the "who are we talking to" thread that I was a 14 y/o student...

[BOGAR]

My thoughts on this. Well seeing as you asked.

Maybe as they are only learning and have been told what to do and rules to follow they still haven't created their own views on things. Then as they go out into the real world where it's not black and white like the book, they see others doing something they were told not to do so they feel annoyed / confused (or whatever) that someone else isn't doing what they should. Over time we develop our own skills on movement through traffic and how their bike handles through corners, in different weather situations etc. By this point we know that (or are learning like me) people do ride differently and it's a case of each to their own. Maybe, something like that, all in all who knows. Meh:scratch:

[cambridgedan]

they do complain alot is seems and last night i saw one nearly take out the light pole as he went around the intersection :shit:

[Ragingrob]

If you don't like their complaining/discovering, don't read the thread. Just let people who can be bothered reply to them! S'all good.

I'd rather them complain about different aspects of riding than complain about numerous crashes due to not raising their questions.

[Mikkel]

What motorcycle?

It's the tractor which is largely obscured from view by those two peroxide skanks...


Dude, we all have different ideas of what a biker is

No we don't!


My thoughts on this. Well seeing as you asked.

Maybe as they are only learning and have been told what to do and rules to follow they still haven't created their own views on things. Then as they go out into the real world where it's not black and white like the book

It's not just the newbies who've got trouble getting that bit.

[Thani-B]

The wierd thing is that he sent me a PM shortly after I said in the "who are we talking to" thread that I was a 14 y/o student...

Lol same, well not the 14yo student bit, but only got the PM after I posted in that thread.

[rosie631]

The wierd thing is that he sent me a PM shortly after I said in the "who are we talking to" thread that I was a 14 y/o student...

And I got infracted for abusing HIM

[Sparky Bills]

Everyone just stop for a second.....

Right.... Have you stopped??

Take a look back at all the posts in this thread.
This is the prime example showing what KB has become.
A place for people to come and vent and moan about what they think other people are doing wrong.

Who cares!?
Just ride your bikes, post how cool your last ride was and forget the rest. Its not worth worrying about seriously!
Who cares what everyone else is doing or thinking about you.
Have a happy weekend people.

[Zoolander]

Everyone just stop for a second.....

Right.... Have you stopped??

Take a look back at all the posts in this thread.
This is the prime example showing what KB has become.
A place for people to come and vent and moan about what they think other people are doing wrong.

Who cares!?
Just ride your bikes, post how cool your last ride was and forget the rest. Its not worth worrying about seriously!
Who cares what everyone else is doing or thinking about you.
Have a happy weekend people.

Well said Martin.

[Laxi]

Crying about crying. Well done.

hit that 1 on the head


Crying? Lol, since when was a question a cry? Did I show any negative emotion or say how pissed off I am about it? That would be crying. I'm just curious as to why people do what I said


"But about cry baby new riders" positive critercisim? (dont need spell-check, ive got hitch)

This is KB mate! there's plenty of "wise old timers" out there prattling on too, if you dont like it there's always the option of turning the damn computer off and going for a ride instead:niceone:

[tigertim20]

No we don't!

.

Yes we do. We all ride different bikes, some harleys, some sports bikes, some motards, we use different gear,and ride at speeds of differing legality, some use bikes only for commmuting, some as an occaisional weekend toy. One of my friends has never had a cage licence (in his 30's) and swears he never will. Some of us go to rallies, or do toy runs, some dont. We all have a different purpose for having the bike we do.

Im just saying that there are all the comments and complaints on here because newbies get the idea that 'bikers' is a particular stereotype to which we must adhere, and dont get it when they see otherwise.
Bikers are a group as diverse as any other, and in time, as those newbies meet more riders and get more experience, they figure that out, they sort out where they fit into it all, and eventually surround themselves with the type of riders who are alike them.

[FROSTY]

Not wanting to push any particular barrow here but you see exactly the same thing in all sots of factions of society. 3 examples that spring to mind are Christians,lesbians and amway salespeople.
In all three cases they are bubbling over with their new found "thing"
In all three cases they are indignant that the rest of the world don't see things as they do.
In all three cases those that have been there, done that andstill doing it give the same sort of advice as we give the newbee bikers.
Lifes not fair and not everybodys into your "thing" So get over it and enjoy it.

[Drew]

Everyone just stop for a second.....

Right.... Have you stopped??

Take a look back at all the posts in this thread.
This is the prime example showing what KB has become.
A place for people to come and vent and moan about what they think other people are doing wrong.

Who cares!?
Just ride your bikes, post how cool your last ride was and forget the rest. Its not worth worrying about seriously!
Who cares what everyone else is doing or thinking about you.
Have a happy weekend people.

You forgot about giving everyone shit about smoking them up the hill. C'mon, I know you remember teh good ol' days. Smack talk, and organising parties.


Not wanting to push any particular barrow here but you see exactly the same thing in all sots of factions of society. 3 examples that spring to mind are Christians,lesbians and amway salespeople.
In all three cases they are bubbling over with their new found "thing"
In all three cases they are indignant that the rest of the world don't see things as they do.
In all three cases those that have been there, done that andstill doing it give the same sort of advice as we give the newbee bikers.
Lifes not fair and not everybodys into your "thing" So get over it and enjoy it.

That's profoundly true, and funny as fuck.

I wonder how many people realise, just how similar all the minority groups are in attitude. If we all teamed up, we would likely form a majority instead.

[puddytat]

I wonder how many people realise, just how similar all the minority groups are in attitude. If we all teamed up, we would likely form a majority instead.

And that'd truly worry the politicians....very well said.

[Mikkel]

Yes we do.

No, we don't!

[Sparky Bills]

You forgot about giving everyone shit about smoking them up the hill. C'mon, I know you remember teh good ol' days. Smack talk, and organising parties.



Yeah true...
I do miss the parties. Although I may have to organise a house warming soon to make up for it.:banana:

[Insanity_rules]

Yeah true...
I do miss the parties. Although I may have to organise a house warming soon to make up for it.:banana:

Ohh Parties, I miss them. No winging like little whiney girls then. Back then bikers were hard. How hard????

Well I'm so tough when I eat smarties, I eat the red ones FIRST! I'm so tough when I go to the beach I kick sand in my own face! I'm so tough I go to sushi restaurants to just to eat the wasabi! I'm so tough my rice bubbles don't go snap, crackle and pop. They go ssshhhh here he comes.

[danielle]

Im a learner and i dont complain about much of anything yet; Im just happy to be on the bike=)

[tate35]

Luckily not all NEWBIES complain!!! I just like to sit back and focus on my own riding..and take it in. Let's face it going from sometimes almost a lifetime in a car to becomming a motorcyclist...does make you much more aware how alert and etc you need to be on a bike than you do in a car....but I understand what you are saying...i just wonder if newbies are mentioning rather than complaining?

[-easy--rider-]

better feel better about them selves when they put others down

[caseye]

And that'd truly worry the politicians....very well said.

Awesome! It truly would worry the Polly's.
Frosty, loved that comparrison, so beautifully and simply put too.
Complain away newbies, if thats what you are doing, someone will put you right sooner or later.
Ask a serious question though and I'd bet you pounds to penny's you'd get some damn fine advice.