This could have easily got interesting.

[98tls]

Talk about bringing a knife to a gunfight,did they really think these guys would have just handed there catch over.:doh:http://nz.yahoo.com/s/101424

[mynameis]

Good on them for not just handing over, would have been interesting if the young fella did shoot one of the Mongrel :eek:

[Headbanger]

Should have shot a couple when they were safely hidden in the bush.

God damn, I'd love to be in that situation.

[p.dath]

Talk about bringing a knife to a gunfight,did they really think these guys would have just handed there catch over.:doh:http://nz.yahoo.com/s/101424

Best to walk away. You can't rely on either the Police or the Justice system to help you. That's been demonstrated again and again.

[98tls]

Best to walk away. You can't rely on either the Police or the Justice system to help you. That's been demonstrated again and again. Yea for sure,i just cant work out if the Mongrel mob guys are just completly thick or so arrogant they cant see the big picture.

[short-circuit]

God damn, I'd love to be in that situation.

Bollocks - more KB bravado.

As the guy said in the article there is the small matter of going to prison for the privilege of blowing someone away. If that's in your 5 year plan you're welcome to it

[Headbanger]

Yea for sure,i just cant work out if the Mongrel mob guys are just completly thick or so arrogant they cant see the big picture.

My guess is both.

Its been working well for them so far.

[NDORFN]

7 vs 2... nothing "Mighty" about that. Fucken pussies.

[Headbanger]

Bollocks - more KB bravado.

As the guy said in the article there is the small matter of going to prison for the privilege of blowing someone away. If that's in your 5 year plan you're welcome to it

HA, You know nothing. But that's your privilege.

In any given situation, and I've been in worse, much worse, I play the cards I'm given in the way I choose.

[short-circuit]

HA, You know nothing. But that's your privilege.

In any given situation, and I've been in worse, much worse, I play the cards I'm given in the way I choose.

Good stuff!

Can I have your autograph?

[smoky]

try going grocery shopping in Huntly

[NDORFN]

Try bouncing at the local kumera pit when you're a 75kg whitey with a cheap haircut (in other words, a number 1).

[98tls]

try going grocery in Huntly :killingme:killingme,nice,like that.

[JimO]

perhaps the deer stalkers assn needs to have a open season on MMMsters

[NDORFN]

perhaps the deer stalkers assn needs to have a open season on MMMsters

Haha fucken good one. That'd solve ALOT of problems.

[Finn]

try going grocery in Huntly

Is that like going postal but with a trundler?

[Finn]

Try bouncing at the local kumera pit when you're a 75kg whitey with a cheap haircut (in other words, a number 1).

................................

[NDORFN]

:lol: Close but I'm not balding.

[Blackshear]

What would you do in that situation?
Risk being stabbed, have your dogs cut?

It's a fucking toughie over going to prison for murder, especially if another mob member came at you after the theoretical first.

[MIXONE]

I know the area well having hunted there myself.Back a few years it was quite common to return from a hunt to find your vehicle wrecked (windows smashed,tyres slashed etc) and god help you if you flew over in a chopper as the locals were quite happy to take pot shots at you.
Once when I drove through with heaps of neices and nephews on board I heard one local turn to another and say "Chur bro,meals on wheels".The V8 decided it was time to exit stage left very quickly!

[NDORFN]

What would you do in that situation?
Risk being stabbed, have your dogs cut?

It's a fucking toughie over going to prison for murder, especially if another mob member came at you after the theoretical first.

Kneecaps. Then call the Irish for backup.

[Blackshear]

Kneecaps. Then call the Irish for backup.

I'm part Irish, does that count? Also part Moari, so maybe it doesn't.
What are the legal repercussions of shooting scum in the knee?

[Mschvs]

Shows a bit of ka-honies standing up at all ... some guys would have dropped their stuff and ran ... but I guess if you were hunting in the Urewera's likelihood is that your a relatively large muscular ape like man, with an equally large sharp toothed dog or 3 by your side ... but maybe I'm just generalising!

[NDORFN]

I'm part Irish, does that count? Also part Moari, so maybe it doesn't.
What are the legal repercussions of shooting scum in the knee?

I'd say alot lighter sentence than shooting him in the head. You'd probably get a bit of respect from the Mob for showing mercy too.

[98tls]

Shows a bit of ka-honies standing up at all ... some guys would have dropped their stuff and ran ... but I guess if you were hunting in the Urewera's likelihood is that your a relatively large muscular ape like man, with an equally large sharp toothed dog or 3 by your side ... but maybe I'm just generalising! Hang on a mo,they had rifles the mobsters had knives,why would they not stand up to them,my first reaction to there standover bullshit would have been laughter followed by "whos first",pretty sure they would have slunk away.As the guy said if they had bought the knives out he would have shot them,not a nice thing to have to do but shitloads better than being stabbed.

[NDORFN]

It's a little different when you're actually in the situation. Takes alot of practice to keep a level head when you're being intimidated by a bunch of thugs belonging to an even larger bunch of thugs.

[avgas]

What do you call a mongrel mob member stuck in a gin-trap?

you think of a name and i'll get the traps.....

[NDORFN]

What do you call a mongrel mob member stuck in a gin-trap?

you think of a name and i'll get the traps.....

Aaah ha haaa! I hope someone from the Mob see's this thread.

[Headbanger]

Aaah ha haaa! I hope someone from the Mob see's this thread.

And have someone read it out loud for them?

[98tls]

It's a little different when you're actually in the situation. Takes alot of practice to keep a level head when you're being intimidated by a bunch of thugs belonging to an even larger bunch of thugs.

Nope,its a no brainer really.Choice A.be stabbed.Choice B.shoot the guy thats going to stab you.Many years ago i was stabbed in the back,no gun handy but if there was both then and know i would have used it,similar suituation to these guys in that i was going about my business at the time and it was totally unprevoked.

[peasea]

try going grocery shopping in Huntly

What's the problem in Huntly? They're all honkies up there, it's just the coal dust.

[peasea]

What do you call a mongrel mob member stuck in a gin-trap?

you think of a name and i'll get the traps.....

If the trap is attached to a tree, call him any fuckin' thing you like!

[paturoa]

5 bucks says there will never be another mention in the media about this incident, or if there is, one of the hunters will be charged with a technical issue, with say a gun license offense or something like that.

[Dave Lobster]

Yea for sure,i just cant work out if the Mongrel mob guys are just completly thick or so arrogant they cant see the big picture.

I'd say the former...

[jono035]

If the hunters were leaving the shooting area, they should have had their weapons unloaded anyway, which means that chances are the very least they would have had to do before being able to shoot the guys was to stick the mag back in the gun and release the bolt (on a semi-auto), at worst get out a box of ammo, load the mag, stick that in the gun, work the bolt.

Also, if they were hunting with bolt action rifles then even if they were loaded the outcome would probably have been shoot one, others run away or shoot one, others stab you to death. Not my kinda odds.

Shooting someone in the kneecaps with a rifle at short range would have been more or less impossible, and also a very dangerous thing to try.

From the bushes it would have been hilarious though... a .308 to the knee would probably relieve the guy of his leg though.

Also a good point about what would happen to you if you got jail time for it, in terms of other MM members going after you...

[jono035]

5 bucks says there will never be another mention in the media about this incident, or if there is, one of the hunters will be charged with a technical issue, with say a gun license offense or something like that.

Yeah. I'm getting pretty pissed off with people going on about how MSSA weapons should be banned completely, semi-autos should be banned completely blah blah blah. I'd be much more worried about someone robbing my house and pulling a knife on me, or pulling a knife on me in town, or cutting me off in traffic and attacking me with a claw-hammer. All things that have happened relatively recently and can very easily have serious consequences. In fact I think I'd probably take being shot over being seriously stabbed any day of the week too...

[Dave Lobster]

Yeah. I'm getting pretty pissed off with people going on about how MSSA weapons should be banned completely, semi-autos should be banned completely blah blah blah. I'd be much more worried about someone robbing my house and pulling a knife on me, or pulling a knife on me in town, or cutting me off in traffic and attacking me with a claw-hammer. All things that have happened relatively recently and can very easily have serious consequences. In fact I think I'd probably take being shot over being seriously stabbed any day of the week too...

We should really ban criminals from carrying knives. :niceone:

[NDORFN]

Or "ban" gangs. By ban I mean have the SAS execute them.

[jono035]

No doubt a knife ban is next on the list anyway! I better go and start sharpening my combat-spoon... :pinch:

[idb]

5 bucks says there will never be another mention in the media about this incident, or if there is, one of the hunters will be charged with a technical issue, with say a gun license offense or something like that.

Yeah, cops are pricks!!!

[paturoa]

Yeah, cops are pricks!!!

Some will be (never met one myself), most aren't, they just have to deal with a'holes all day .....

[Usarka]

The proposed gun licencing laws would have stopped them stealing any weapons.

[idb]

The proposed gun licencing laws would have stopped them stealing any weapons.

Will the proposed laws prohibit the theft of guns?
Absolutely brilliant!!

[Usarka]

At least if the guns were stolen and used then the cops could tell who they were stolen from......... hmmm wait this might need more thinking time :sherlock:

[jimichelle]

just by saying something about this
the monkeys if someone reads this to them
will be aware someone will eventually shoot them if they continue behaving in this way

[jono035]

Yeah, because being able to track where the guns were stolen from is the important part of the fact they were used illegally?

I don't really oppose mandatory registration of all firearms, I just don't see what the point is...

[Usarka]

just by saying something about this
the monkeys if someone reads this to them
will be aware someone will eventually shoot them if they continue behaving in this way

And the lesson to hunters is that a fine from the cops is better than a stab from the mob, so always carry you're rifle loaded when exiting the bush.

[jono035]

And the lesson to hunters is that a fine from the cops is better than a stab from the mob, so always carry you're rifle loaded when exiting the bush.

And when the he shoots one of them and the others swarm him before he can get off any more rounds? When he doesn't get them with an immediately disabling shot and they swarm him? He shoots them all and then gets killed in jail by one of their fellow mob members?

I don't think that the magical 'had his gun loaded and defended himself against the gang of evil-doers' happy ending is really all that realistic....

[jono035]

That said, if they had something like a supressed .22 with them, it coulda been funny knocking holes in the windows of their Pajero from range...

[Usarka]

I don't think that the magical 'had his gun loaded and defended himself against the gang of evil-doers' happy ending is really all that realistic....

If I wanted realism I wouldn't have eaten those mushrooms two hours ago.....

[Dave Lobster]

That said, if they had something like a supressed .22 with them, it coulda been funny knocking holes in the windows of their Pajero from range...

Or their head, from range.

That's still legal in parts of the south island, isn't it?

If you don't leave any survivors, is there a crime commited??

[MarkyMark]

As much as I love the idea of gunning them all down, there aren't many A-cat hunting rifles that I'd trust to put down 7 people if you started shooting when you actually felt your life was in danger, rather than from half the car park away. Unless you've got a shottie with 8 or 9 rounds in it or an MSSA with a 30 rd mag you're either going to be committing murder without justification or risk losing.

[NDORFN]

You're all jealous it wasn't you.

[Katman]

If I wanted realism I wouldn't have eaten those mushrooms two hours ago.....

g sepjzd;og ;s,emv [slkg ]bs.kz ]vke ;skgn????

:wacko:

[jono035]

Jealous it wasn't me? Hell no! (unless I had my 9mm, then maybe...)

[Headbanger]

Instead of trying to ban patches they should put a price on them, It would revolutionise hunting overnight.

[JimO]

a few of these pricks need to be found hanging from trees skinned with their dicks in their mouths, they wouldnt be so keen to fuck with hunters.....Rambo wouldnt take any of their shit

[avgas]

fuck it - just push the fuckers over. If they are dumb enough to stick a knife down their pants at least you'll stop em breeding.

[bogan]

fuck it - just push the fuckers over. If they are dumb enough to stick a knife down their pants at least you'll stop em breeding.

haha, yeh stopping these idiots breeding would solve a fair few problems.

But is a pretty shit incident, next thing you know hunters will be carrying the rifle for the deer, and a shotty or pistol for any mongrel waiting in the car park.

[MIXONE]

Some of you guys seem amazed by this incident.Don't forget this is Tummy Iti's home patch and this sort of shit has been going on forever!The only reason it got publicity was because the monkey mob were involved.If you have white skin and are around that way it's either because you are lost,have a death wish or are a cop with a warrant to serve!

[Indiana_Jones]

A riddle....

If 2 hunters shoot 7 worthless cunts in the forest and ditch them in thick bush, does anyone hear/care?

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

Also a good point about what would happen to you if you got jail time for it, in terms of other MM members going after you...

engage in full open war with them.

The only reason those dickless fucks get away with anything is the same reason little g units get away with it, numbers

Sure they talk all tough with their boys behind them, but find one of the shits alone and they drop nuts pretty quickly.

Write an open letter to the NZ police from the public saying if you don't get it sorted in 6 months, they will start to be shot on sight and you guys had better not get in the way....

Just an idea

ut as someone said, start an open season on the patches, they'll wanna fucking drop them ASAP

-Indy

[gatch]

I do like the idea of the SAS or police STG being used to eliminate key gang members..

They do it in the states, if a guy can't be brought in under arrest he might have a little accident, you know, where he does his concrete shoes up a ittle tight and goes for a run on the bottom of the ocean..

[Brett]

If the hunters had been able to shoot them, say they each had a 9mm or pump action shotty that was loaded and the goons made a move on them and they had subsequently gone back into the bush and burried each body good and proper, I really wonder if they would have been found at all. Ever.

[Dave Lobster]

I really wonder if they would have been found at all. Ever.

not by anyone that would give a fuck.

[MSTRS]

The eastern BOP taniwha is watching this thread with interest...

[Dave Lobster]

The eastern BOP taniwha is watching this thread with interest...

There's internet access in the TAB over there, is there?

[MSTRS]

You know it...
BroNet

[oldrider]

I lived in and hunted the Waikaremoana area of the Urewera National Park in the 1960's and can tell you it was one of the happiest times of my life.

I also had (almost unlimited) access to most of the Maori and freehold farm land in the Area too.

I don't think in the whole time we were there, that any of that sort of (serious) behaviour was evident.

The Maori people "we" came into contact with "anywhere in the the Area" were fantastic people.

The only indication of any negative change from when we lived there has been the comment from some of the elders and Komatua:

That they are afraid of some of their young ones attitudes today!

So whats different from the rest of New Zealand society today?

Of course I would like to lay the blame (entirely) at Helen Clark's feet but even I think that NZ as whole has to shoulder the blame for this, damn it! :argue: :o

[jono035]

A shotgun would be the best bet, you can get into too much trouble for simply having a pistol with you anywhere other than a pistol range...

[The Pastor]

instead of trying to ban patches they should put a price on them, it would revolutionise hunting overnight.
now theres a good idea!

[The Pastor]

engage in full open war with them.

The only reason those dickless fucks get away with anything is the same reason little g units get away with it, numbers

sure they talk all tough with their boys behind them, but find one of the shits alone and they drop nuts pretty quickly.

Write an open letter to the nz police from the public saying if you don't get it sorted in 6 months, they will start to be shot on sight and you guys had better not get in the way....

Just an idea

ut as someone said, start an open season on the patches, they'll wanna fucking drop them asap

-indy
you'd go to jail, where most of them currently reside.

[Indiana_Jones]

you'd go to jail, where most of them currently reside.

Not if no one charges you.

since when was removing litter a criminal offence lol

-Indy