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Str8 Jacket
8th June 2009, 16:36
I just got some new winter gloves, which are alot thicker than my summer gloves (duh!). When I have been riding in them for 5 or so mins my right hand starts to ache and when I take my gloves off my hand is usually started swelling... I am currently on a waiting list to see a specialist as the doc thinks I have either carpal tunnel or arthritic type problems in my hand so I am assuming that mybe the extra thickness might be attributing to the pain.
Anyone else had this problem? Any recommendations? I dont really want to go back to wearing the summer ones! :no:

MVnut
8th June 2009, 16:41
Try some 'Icebreaker' undergloves inside your Summer gloves

ronniethe5th
8th June 2009, 16:47
I find I get the same thing, just in the right hand (base of thumb), perhaps too much mouse etc at work, but it's only in thick gloves... I have found slightly too big gloves are ok (used my burton ones last week), and oxford hotgrips plus summer gloves work well for most cold days too (down to about 4 degrees) even in the rain ... good luck!

MDR2
8th June 2009, 16:56
reaction to the materials? what do you do for a living, keyboard and mouse all day could be detrimental to health if you're office bound. If you DO get diagnosed with carpel tunnel you may wanna talk to your gp about Work related gradual process as the cause.

my 2c

ManDownUnder
8th June 2009, 16:59
It's pretty normal, especially if the gloves are a slightly too small.

They will stretch in time and be uber comfy but the pain is the price of getting there. Wear them long as you can, then swap to your other gloves when it gets to "that point"

p.dath
8th June 2009, 17:15
There really is only one solution, and that is complete rest for the affected hand. I would suggest getting a wrist brace from the chemist and putting it on so that you immobilise it. Then you wont be tempted to use it.

James Deuce
8th June 2009, 17:16
Another thing to consider is that you can't feel the grips as well through the thicker gloves so you're squeezing harder to compensate. Relax a little.

Str8 Jacket
8th June 2009, 17:25
Try some 'Icebreaker' undergloves inside your Summer gloves
Oh yeah, what do they retail at?





I find I get the same thing, just in the right hand (base of thumb), perhaps too much mouse etc at work, but it's only in thick gloves... I have found slightly too big gloves are ok oxford hotgrips plus summer gloves work well for most cold days too (down to about 4 degrees) even in the rain ... good luck!
hehe, a bucket racing commuter..... *with heated grips* :yeah:

My pain is at the base of my thumb and the top of my hand and ive had it for 6+ years. The "grap" movement is especially sore. Once the pain starts up my hand seizes up. Sucks when you're racing!


There really is only one solution, and that is complete rest for the affected hand. I would suggest getting a wrist brace from the chemist and putting it on so that you immobilise it. Then you wont be tempted to use it.
Thanks, I shall bear your suggestion in mind. :mellow:

I do know that you are right. But...



Another thing to consider is that you can't feel the grips as well through the thicker gloves so you're squeezing harder to compensate. Relax a little.

Hey, now that makes sense!!

Armitage Shanks
8th June 2009, 17:40
I just got some new winter gloves, which are alot thicker than my summer gloves (duh!). When I have been riding in them for 5 or so mins my right hand starts to ache and when I take my gloves off my hand is usually started swelling... I am currently on a waiting list to see a specialist as the doc thinks I have either carpal tunnel or arthritic type problems in my hand so I am assuming that mybe the extra thickness might be attributing to the pain.
Anyone else had this problem? Any recommendations? I dont really want to go back to wearing the summer ones! :no:

Had a similar problem recently when I bought a new pair of thick'ish winter gloves, after 5 min my right hand was sore as and my left was'nt happy either. Turned out the gloves were too small. Have since swapped them for the next size up and much better though I'm not 100% happy. I'm sure you're right the extra thickness is'nt helping, and your right hand is doing the work doing the throttle thing. Hope it comes right , not sure about the arthritis thing though ...try the summer gloves again and see if your hands still hurt ?

Skunk
8th June 2009, 17:44
Try some 'Icebreaker' undergloves inside your Summer gloves
Or real silk gloves. Cheaper but not quite as good.

Sparky Bills
8th June 2009, 17:47
Yes thicker gloves can have this effect.
Not much you can do about it really apart from using thinner gloves.

dpex
8th June 2009, 18:12
I just got some new winter gloves, which are alot thicker than my summer gloves (duh!). When I have been riding in them for 5 or so mins my right hand starts to ache and when I take my gloves off my hand is usually started swelling... I am currently on a waiting list to see a specialist as the doc thinks I have either carpal tunnel or arthritic type problems in my hand so I am assuming that mybe the extra thickness might be attributing to the pain.
Anyone else had this problem? Any recommendations? I dont really want to go back to wearing the summer ones! :no:

I suffer from cellular degeneration in my hands and feet known as Reynauds Syndrome. Both sets of extremities freeze in any temp below body heat and when significant vibration is present. You will all appreciate that this syndrome prevents me from using a vibrator other than in the bath.

Seriously though. It is a serious pain in the hands and feet and I have tried all manner of glove combo, heated grips, sock warmers, hand-warmers; you name them. Recently I invested $150 in a set of gloves/socks known as Prolotex.

They are supposed to be impregnated with some silica-type stuff which, according to the makers, radiates long-wave infrared into ones hands and feet.

Mercifully, I don't suffer smelly feet so I have worn the socks for three days and nights and the gloves as often as possible, including during the night.

I bought them, primarily, to maintain some level of comfort while standing in freezing rivers, (in waders) trout-fishing. Today my feet lasted for about three hours before becoming totally numb, despite wearing the flash socks, a pair of dry-suit booties, plus the wader boots.

So I'm a bit pissed off with the socks. And frankly, the gloves don't seem to provide much relief.

This type of extremty-discomfort is just that when fishing, but when it gets serious enough, while riding, it ups your danger level considerably, because more and more of your focus goes on the discomfort and less on riding safely.

I'm running out of ideas on how to keep my hands and feet warm.

BTW. I use Bob Charles Deer velvet plus their antiflam.

Armitage Shanks
8th June 2009, 18:16
And then there's the story about the guy who had five dicks ?

His Underpants fitted him like a glove :lol:

Trudes
8th June 2009, 18:26
Artist - Kevin Bloody Wilson
Song - I Gave Up Wanking

I give wanking this morning
I never thought that I could
I'm feelin' better already
And this time I'm off it for good

When I first wanked, I's though I's so clever
And all of me mates, they were mugs
Thought I was the first
Bloke here on Earth
Who'd ever played with his slug

It was me own little secret
And I never told anyone
And the feelin' I got
The first time I shot
Was like chooks flyin' out o' me bum

I'm givin' up wanking...tomorrow
I never thought that I could
Then I won't get these bad headaches
And then I'll be off it for good

I've wanked in some unlikely places
The shower, the beach and the pool
A dunny, a tram and the pictures
And biology classes at school

And once me grandmother caught me
Wankin' meself in me room
But to her surprise
I just shut me eyes
And imagined her standin' there nude

I'm givin' up wanking...Tuesday
I never thought that I could
And then I won't squint like I do now
And then I'll be off it for good

Me Dad says it's gonna take willpower
There really is no easy trick
I honestly thought I'd need surgery
To help get me hand off me dick

Me Dad's been a great inspiration
He really has been a great help
He knows what I go through
And just what to do
'Cause he give it up yesterd' himself

So I'm givin' up wanking next Frid'
I never thought that I could
And I'll throw away me thick glasses
And then I'll be off it for good

So if you say you don't wank, you're a liar
And a fool if you say that you do
So next time you see, Prince Charles on TV
Remember he wanks himself too

So I'm givin' up wanking come Christmas
I never thought that I could
And I'll sell me dog and me white cane
And then I'll be off it for good
And I'll throw away me dark glasses
And then I'll be off it for good



Sorry hun, it just reminded me of this song! :)

saltydog
8th June 2009, 18:45
Smallish, newish gloves make ya hands ache like buggery.
Get a bigger pair.
heaps more comfy

slofox
8th June 2009, 18:49
Smallish, newish gloves make ya hands ache like buggery.
Get a bigger pair.
heaps more comfy

Wot 'e said - get a bigger pair.

Patch
8th June 2009, 19:25
try altering the angle of the bars as well

Harvd
8th June 2009, 19:34
I got a pair of winter gloves. felt good when just putting them on but like you said after 5 minutes my hand begun to ache arond my thumb. went back got the size up and fixed no problems.

steve_t
8th June 2009, 19:37
When you take off your gloves, do you have "the claw"? A sure sign your gloves are too small :pinch:

Kendog
8th June 2009, 19:51
Am I too late for the HTFU post?

If I am I will add my vote for Icebreaker gloves, they are really good.

F5 Dave
8th June 2009, 22:02
Try using some of Mals gloves (if they are any bigger:lol:). My dirt gloves used to give me grief & sore knuckles so perhaps if the thumb was too short it might do similar.

erik
9th June 2009, 08:13
...
My pain is at the base of my thumb and the top of my hand and ive had it for 6+ years. The "grap" movement is especially sore. Once the pain starts up my hand seizes up. Sucks when you're racing!
...

Is the brake lever positioned low enough? Pain in the top of the hand makes me think it could be from trying to bend your hand backwards like when you twist the throttle or move your fingers up to grab the brake. A lower lever might help and making sure the throttle cable and tube are moving as freely as possible (ie properly lubed/routed). If you use a mouse, see if it's using the same muscle action, maybe a different mouse would help. You can get some wierd shaped joystick type mouses that could be an option - I think they're horrible to use, but my mum with arthritis uses one.

vifferman
9th June 2009, 08:39
I would like some winter gloves that have insulation only on the back of the hand and fingers. My current 'winter' gloves are not really winter gloves at all - just waterproof. The lining gives a wee bit extra insulation, which is almost enough when used with the heated grips. Only my fingertips get cold.

Quasievil
9th June 2009, 08:42
I would like some winter gloves that have insulation only on the back of the hand and fingers.
mmmmmmmmmm interesting concept ;)

Jaxi
9th June 2009, 08:50
Sounds like you've had a bit if investigation into this, but just thought I'd mention I had something similar for ages, at the top of the palm, just at the base of the fingers hurt like hell with any pressure.

Turned out to be tennis elbow (go figure!) and after a couple of weeks of cooling with frozen peas and applied pressure on a particular spot of the elbow, months of pain all but disappeared...

Winter gloves are a bit rubbish though, end up too tight with no feeling just to keep your hands warm, the seams are a bastard too!!

vifferman
9th June 2009, 08:51
mmmmmmmmmm interesting concept ;)
Y'think? :confused:
Talk to most bikers about gloves, and a common beef is that they don't like thick gloves. In all except the more extremes of cold weather, all that is required is some insulation on the 'outside' and maybe the fingertips. I suspect the backs of our hands get colder because all the musculature (and therefore most of the blood vessels (heating conduits?) are on the inside.

sinfull
9th June 2009, 09:43
mmmmmmmmmm interesting concept ;)

It is ! I bought myself a pair of Katmandu (wet suit material) Inners and wear them on the inside of my pig skin summers !
Makes them a bit tight (you know how big the mits are lol) but that combo is still warmer than my $180 macna winter (so called) gloves !
In summer it's all about breathing but in winter i wouldn't mind if my thumb sweats :buggerd:
Ya palm up to the first knuckle never cops it so that area is a waste of space for insul.

Bugger it, i been saying i'll get me some heated grips for 2 winters now lol think i might just do it ..... tommorrow

Flip
9th June 2009, 14:25
Got old fitter hands myself.

I just use heated handlebars and light weight gloves for all but the coldest days.

Mystic13
9th June 2009, 14:49
I'm with the others on going up a glove size. Also getting the right fit. I've found some gloves have shorter fingers than the others putting pressure on the ends of the fingers.

I had winter gloves once but never found any that were much cop.

I've switched to wearing rain-off over gloves over my summer gloves. No issues at all, dry, warm and happy. www.rain-off.com here in Titirangi. Rode to Taupo Friday night and around Taupo it was 2 degrees.

Did the Rusty last year and coming through the Desert Road with it sleeting and a snow-cone building up on the front screen still no issues. My toes were starting to get a little cold though.

I was told Carpal thingy as well but reality is if it only happens with one glove then it's the glove.

Mystic13
9th June 2009, 14:58
I suffer from cellular degeneration in my hands and feet known as Reynauds Syndrome. Both sets of extremities freeze in any temp below body heat and when significant vibration is present. You will all appreciate that this syndrome prevents me from using a vibrator other than in the bath.

Seriously though. It is a serious pain in the hands and feet and I have tried all manner of glove combo, heated grips, sock warmers, hand-warmers; you name them. Recently I invested $150 in a set of gloves/socks known as Prolotex.

They are supposed to be impregnated with some silica-type stuff which, according to the makers, radiates long-wave infrared into ones hands and feet.

Mercifully, I don't suffer smelly feet so I have worn the socks for three days and nights and the gloves as often as possible, including during the night.

I bought them, primarily, to maintain some level of comfort while standing in freezing rivers, (in waders) trout-fishing. Today my feet lasted for about three hours before becoming totally numb, despite wearing the flash socks, a pair of dry-suit booties, plus the wader boots.

So I'm a bit pissed off with the socks. And frankly, the gloves don't seem to provide much relief.

This type of extremty-discomfort is just that when fishing, but when it gets serious enough, while riding, it ups your danger level considerably, because more and more of your focus goes on the discomfort and less on riding safely.

I'm running out of ideas on how to keep my hands and feet warm.

BTW. I use Bob Charles Deer velvet plus their antiflam.

The freezing of the extremities is easy to fix and I've helped a fair few people do that. Standing in cold water for a few hours perhaps is not the ideal thing to do but many sports have there sacrifices. I teach this stuff to sports people, clients who get cold feet and hands, and I use the reverse for people who have nose bleeds.

PM me if you're interested in sorting it.

Skunk
9th June 2009, 15:48
It's the pockets of air between layers that help keep ya fingers warm. Silk, then thin Icebreaker, then a thin leather only glove of a larger size seem to work best for me. I'm still using just my leather only gloves - haven't got the silk glove to go with them out yet.

Str8 Jacket
9th June 2009, 17:26
I was told Carpal thingy as well but reality is if it only happens with one glove then it's the glove.

I have constant hand pains. By the end of a working day, if I have had a few meetings and had to write notes I can hardly use my right hand.

Oh yeah, the pain I am getting is over my wrists and up my index and thumb but spreads to the next 2 along when it gets really bad. I have had to pull in from a race before because of the pain before and that was just buckets. So yeah, its not the gloves as they fit perfectly and have lots of play. I bought a size bigger than normal for this reason.

James Deuce
9th June 2009, 18:58
You know those hand exerciser things? The spring thing with the two handles that you squeeze together? Get one of those and spend about 2 minutes in the morning and evening squeezing it and releasing it really slowly.

It goes without saying that if you feel any pain (as opposed to the normal strain of squeezing the damn thing) don't do it.

I find it will give me a few hours pain free. It's the slow release that's key as it forces things to slide smoothly on the release and seems ot shift inflammation along.

Str8 Jacket
9th June 2009, 19:02
You know those hand exerciser things? The spring thing with the two handles that you squeeze together? Get one of those and spend about 2 minutes in the morning and evening squeezing it and releasing it really slowly.

It goes without saying that if you feel any pain (as opposed to the normal strain of squeezing the damn thing) don't do it.

I find it will give me a few hours pain free. It's the slow release that's key as it forces things to slide smoothly on the release and seems ot shift inflammation along.

Yeah, I tried one, once. Couldnt peel a potato for 2 weeks!

James Deuce
9th June 2009, 19:07
Too much! Use it once in the morning, then once in the evening for a week, then twice for a week and so on. Build up really slowly.

Stop being Hels for just a tiny fraction of time and it will help. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen.

Potatoes aren't important. You should be cooking Malc his eggs.

Str8 Jacket
9th June 2009, 19:11
Too much! Use it once in the morning, then once in the evening for a week, then twice for a week and so on. Build up really slowly.

Stop being Hels for just a tiny fraction of time and it will help. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen.

Potatoes aren't important. You should be cooking Malc his eggs.

I have been doing physio recommended excercises for 3 years now with special weights and stretches for 5 day's a week at the gym and it has helped immensly in the past. Excercises do help, dont get me wrong but in the last 6 months the pain has gotten out of control. Im going to try some acupuncture, that should help! :)

James Deuce
9th June 2009, 19:27
Yes, there's nothing like a good stabbing to take your mind off CTS.

Str8 Jacket
9th June 2009, 19:29
Yes, there's nothing like a good stabbing to take your mind off CTS.

You're being serious, are'nt ya?! :)

James Deuce
9th June 2009, 19:33
You wish! Kinky Tart! Get back to the eggs!

Blackbird
4th July 2009, 10:34
I've switched to wearing rain-off over gloves over my summer gloves. No issues at all, dry, warm and happy. www.rain-off.com here in Titirangi. Rode to Taupo Friday night and around Taupo it was 2 degrees.

Did the Rusty last year and coming through the Desert Road with it sleeting and a snow-cone building up on the front screen still no issues.

Thank you! Your comments were the final push to buy some Rain-Off overmitts as I'd read a lot of great things about them:2thumbsup. Not only are they completely waterproof, they're fantastic for reducing wind chill. Like others have mentioned, heated grips don't do much for fingertips and backs of hands but the mitts really do the business. Just have my Spidi summer gloves underneath them. The other thing I like is that there's no feeling of bulk which is why I hated my Teknics winter gloves. Great buying at $65:rockon:

Highlander
4th July 2009, 10:49
Thank you! Your comments were the final push to buy some Rain-Off overmitts as I'd read a lot of great things about them:2thumbsup. Not only are they completely waterproof, they're fantastic for reducing wind chill. Like others have mentioned, heated grips don't do much for fingertips and backs of hands but the mitts really do the business. Just have my Spidi summer gloves underneath them. The other thing I like is that there's no feeling of bulk which is why I hated my Teknics winter gloves. Great buying at $65:rockon:

Mrs Highlander loves her rain offs for the same reason, she has probably used them more often for the warmth value than the rain off value.

MarkH
5th July 2009, 15:43
The rain offs may reduce the wind chill to some degree but I wear mine MUCH more for the water proofing. Wind chill may be unpleasant but wind chill onto wet gloves? No thank you! Because I have plenty of storage I always keep my rain offs with me so that if the rain comes down I can stop and cover my gloves - dry hands are good mmmmkay!