Why why why why why?

[Ecclesnz]

Ok, so I have a question, which may or may not be able to be answered but what the hell.

Why is it that in the Buy/Sell section you mainly only see sprotbikes and adventure/off road bikes?

I'm starting to look at upgrading my cruiser but they're as rare as honest politicians on here. Where do you guys sell your cruisers? Are there any recommended online retailer for cruisers?

I don't have a huge budget, only looking at entry level for approx $10k, but would hate to have to resort to trademe.

Cheers

Eccles

[Finn]

Cruiser riders are typically content bikers that don't feel the need to update last years plastic to this years fantastic just to get a digital clock on the dashboard.

[Lula]

I don't have a huge budget, only looking at entry level for approx $10k, but would hate to have to resort to trademe.

You will find 42 cruisers under $10K here:

http://www.motorcycletrader.co.nz/UsedItemResults.aspx?Ntt=cruiser&N=4294966779+0&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Ntk=All&Nf=P_Price|LT+10001|

And remember it is free to list a bike for sale with Motorcycle Trader which will be published on and offline.

[James Deuce]

What Finn said, plus most of them are too relaxed to ever bother selling a bike.

[retro asian]

I think we (cruiser riders) only have limited access to the KiwiBiker site, seeing as we don't wave to sports bikers... we might not be allowed to advertise on here.

[White trash]

Cruiser riders are typically content bikers that don't feel the need to update last years plastic to this years fantastic just to get a digital clock on the dashboard.
Oh how the tables turn when you've defected to the dark side :)

Catch up for a beer soon eh?

[Finn]

Oh how the tables turn when you've defected to the dark side :)

Catch up for a beer soon eh?

The tables have turned, pity the Harley doesn't :(

Catch up and beer sounds good...

[wysper]

Cruiser riders are typically content bikers that don't feel the need to update last years plastic to this years fantastic just to get a digital clock on the dashboard.

+1 - even though I am not on a cruiser now, a cruiser will most likely be my next bike


I think we (cruiser riders) only have limited access to the KiwiBiker site, seeing as we don't wave to sports bikers... we might not be allowed to advertise on here.

Bikers wave? WTF? Since when?

[White trash]

The tables have turned, pity the Harley doesn't

Hahahaha, you've made your bed, lie in it. Fucker :devil2:

[HenryDorsetCase]

You will find 42 cruisers under $10K here:

http://www.motorcycletrader.co.nz/UsedItemResults.aspx?Ntt=cruiser&N=4294966779+0&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Ntk=All&Nf=P_Price|LT+10001|

And remember it is free to list a bike for sale with Motorcycle Trader which will be published on and offline.

pity their site nav sucks donkey dong, and it plays annoying adverts all the time.

[oldrider]

What Finn said, plus most of them are too relaxed to ever bother selling a bike.

Cruiser riders just crash them and replace them on the insurance, so they have no need to advertise! :oi-grr: Quite a cunning little plan actually! :shifty:

[scracha]

Plenty on bikepoint.co.nz

[Lula]

pity their site nav sucks donkey dong, and it plays annoying adverts all the time.

Thanks for your wonderful feedback and will take it onboard. You'll be sure to see some improvements soon :yes:

Hope you find your next crrrruuuuzzzzer without too many more dong donkey complaints :dodge:

[Ecclesnz]

Thanks for your wonderful feedback and will take it onboard. You'll be sure to see some improvements soon :yes:

Hope you find your next crrrruuuuzzzzer without too many more dong donkey complaints :dodge:

No idea what he's on about, I had no problems navigating it. :girlfight:

[popelli]

Cruiser riders are typically content bikers that don't feel the need to update last years plastic to this years fantastic just to get a digital clock on the dashboard.

different market, sports bikes are out of date 6 months after they are released with a new model that is 2 grams lighter, and point 00005 seconds faster around the track being relased every other week rendering all other sports bikes obsolete

[AllanB]

Actually piss taking aside if you own a cruiser that you like there is little point changing it for a few years - models pretty much stay the same and any (if any) factory changes year to year are often minor or cosmetic.

Better off getting bling for your beast.

[Ecclesnz]

Actually piss taking aside if you own a cruiser that you like there is little point changing it for a few years - models pretty much stay the same and any (if any) factory changes year to year are often minor or cosmetic.

Better off getting bling for your beast.

Said beast is an 87 Suzuki Savage 650. While I would ike to keep it for a few years it was my first bike back riding after a long break. I didn't want a bike that was too powerful as my first one. Since it's getting long in the tooth I would like to get one that's got a bit more power, will last longer and be better on the open road.

I do love the savage but something with 5 gears would be wonderful.

[modboy]

you can't wave if your on a cruiser - you get blown off the back if you take your hand of the bars...

[Maha]

you can't wave if your on a cruiser - you get blown off the back if you take your hand of the bars...

And a scooter differs how??

[MIXONE]

And a scooter differs how??

You can't go fast enough to get blown off and no one waves at you anyway.

[Gizzit]

Just wave to everybody!! Use both hands and waggle a foot as well. Scares the hell out of them. They'll never wave at you again !!! lol :msn-wink: :niceone: :D

And yeah .... once you have a nice cruiser .... keep it! I'm loving mine .... (ah ...... that's not literally ..... you understand !! lol) :D

[xwhatsit]

different market, sports bikes are out of date 6 months after they are released with a new model that is 2 grams lighter, and point 00005 seconds faster around the track being relased every other week rendering all other sports bikes obsolete
Quite right. A bit silly. But then, on the other hand the crusiers are out of date 20 years before they are released.

[retro asian]

I do love the savage but something with 5 gears would be wonderful.

And a change to V-twin I assume?

[Ecclesnz]

And a change to V-twin I assume?

In all honesty I have been perfectly happy with the single. What would the benefits of a v twin be?

[retro asian]

In all honesty I have been perfectly happy with the single. What would the benefits of a v twin be?

Guess its a personal preference. The cruisers I'm looking to upgrade to are all V-twin. I like the idea of having a linear power repsonse, and low end torque...

But I'm fairly noobish, and probably not the best person to talk about the differences...

[popelli]

Quite right. A bit silly. But then, on the other hand the crusiers are out of date 20 years before they are released.

true but then you can buy one and maintained properly it will outlast you without becoming obsolete compared to the new crop of crusiers

pic below over 50 years old and still capable of leaving some jap cruisers behind at the lights

[peasea]

true but then you can buy one and maintained properly it will outlast you without becoming obsolete compared to the new crop of crusiers

pic below over 50 years old and still capable of leaving some jap cruisers behind at the lights

True. Low-revving engines with gobs of torque will just keep ticking over, year after year. The retro look wasn't retro when it was new but the new look is so retro you can't tell sometimes. However, new, retro-look machines are more reliable and oil tight so it's a win win situation there and if you want the REAL retro bike you're probably prepared for some tinkering or to pay for some tinkering.

If that makes sense.

[98tls]

Fwiw if it doesnt have to be a cruiser i know a bloke with a very low km 1200 Bandit thats just been made redundant that needs out of it,04 from memory and pretty much as new.Way less then 10.

[NighthawkNZ]

In all honesty I have been perfectly happy with the single. What would the benefits of a v twin be?

V-Twins give good pure low down torque... good for just cruising & touring when the bike is loaded with luggage etc...

Only one way to see if you like a V-Twin is give it a go one day...

[xwhatsit]

true but then you can buy one and maintained properly it will outlast you without becoming obsolete compared to the new crop of crusiers

pic below over 50 years old and still capable of leaving some jap cruisers behind at the lights
Oh I'm not having a poke at such bikes. If I was designing a bike it'd be air-cooled, SOHC, drum-braked and naked. No point in technology for technology's sake, unless you're a racer or a track-day warrior.

Just pointing out that if you're so far behind the curve, it doesn't matter about the difference between 20 years and 21 years... still two decades or so. So no need to rush out and buy something new.

[peasea]

Fwiw if it doesnt have to be a cruiser i know a bloke with a very low km 1200 Bandit thats just been made redundant that needs out of it,04 from memory and pretty much as new.Way less then 10.


10 what? kph?

Bwahaaaaaahhhahhahah

[peasea]

V-Twins give good pure low down torque... good for just cruising & touring when the bike is loaded with luggage etc...

Only one way to see if you like a V-Twin is give it a go one day...

Nah, give it a week, at least.

[Ecclesnz]

Nah, give it a week, at least.
I'm wondering who is likely to let me test ride a v twin for a week to see if I like it?

[peasea]

I'm wondering who is likely to let me test ride a v twin for a week to see if I like it?

Just go for a test ride, say nothing, and go south for a week.

[Ecclesnz]

Just go for a test ride, say nothing, and go south for a week.
ONly if you promise the mighty Scumdog won't be chasing me? His territory is just South of me :S

In all honesty I want to try a few bikes, for me comfort when riding is most important. Fortunately the guys at Advance motorcycles down here are great and usually have heaps of variety available.

[hayd3n]

bikes are like partners
try a few out before you bring one home to stay,
or be like hugh hef and have a few at home,

[popelli]

Oh I'm not having a poke at such bikes. If I was designing a bike it'd be air-cooled, SOHC, drum-braked and naked. No point in technology for technology's sake, unless you're a racer or a track-day warrior.



Drum braked??? are you serious or do you have a death wish, traffic conditions are markedly different to what they were 30 or 40 years ago, drum brakes are just not up to the job, even a lot of the 70's disc brake setups are not really up to it

I have upgraded the brakes on most of my bikes, money well spent, I had an incident once where I had to stop in anger and if it wasn't for the twin 6 pot harrison calipers I had fitted I would either still be eating hospital food or pushing up daisies

[peasea]

Drum braked??? are you serious or do you have a death wish, traffic conditions are markedly different to what they were 30 or 40 years ago, drum brakes are just not up to the job, even a lot of the 70's disc brake setups are not really up to it

I have upgraded the brakes on most of my bikes, money well spent, I had an incident once where I had to stop in anger and if it wasn't for the twin 6 pot harrison calipers I had fitted I would either still be eating hospital food or pushing up daisies

Agreed.
The FXR I had got the message with a 6-pot and one day it saved my bacon when a stupid gook tourist turned right in front of me. My left shin just brushed her rear bumper. The brakes only have to save you once to make themselves priceless.

[peasea]

ONly if you promise the mighty Scumdog won't be chasing me?

I wouldn't be able to promise anything with the mighty (?) SD. Talk to his boss and just go through his patch when he's not on duty.

[xwhatsit]

Drum braked??? are you serious or do you have a death wish, traffic conditions are markedly different to what they were 30 or 40 years ago, drum brakes are just not up to the job, even a lot of the 70's disc brake setups are not really up to it
I do have a 70s disc set-up and ride it in traffic every day... peak power might be slightly higher than a twin leading shoe but not by much. Anything over that required to lock the front wheel is wasted. I'd rather have the feel of a drum and not have to worry about f*cking hydraulics and changing the pads all the time and master cylinders and seals... Drum brakes have good feel, too. Linear and progressive.

Only drawback of a drum is that when they overheat they're useless and that the really big ones weigh a touch more than a disc setup (not by much though once you count all the callipers etc.). Given that I'm not on a racetrack, I'd probably only use a good `handful' maybe every fourth or fifth time I commute. On an open-road ride, even less... most times the only brake that ever gets used is the rear drum, and engine braking to get my corner speed right.

Given that I don't need the benefits of a disc brake, I'll take the positives of a decent drum any day. Just as I don't need fairings or a screen to get that extra aerodymanics for top speed, I don't need a ridiculous twin-disc setup where 90% of its power is wasted beyond the ability of the front tyre to grip.

[SDU]

ONly if you promise the mighty Scumdog won't be chasing me? His territory is just South of me :S

In all honesty I want to try a few bikes, for me comfort when riding is most important. Fortunately the guys at Advance motorcycles down here are great and usually have heaps of variety available.


Good idea to try a few bikes out- you may be supprised @ what you really like- (watch it you might end up with a sprotbike /adventurer:p)
If you get to take a Guzzi out make sure you get a good couple off hours test ride as you need the time to come to grips with how they like to be ridden. After that you'll either love it or hate it:drool:
Good luck in finding the bike for you--PS -singles are fun but Twins are awesome fun:niceone:

[peasea]

I do have a 70s disc set-up and ride it in traffic every day... peak power might be slightly higher than a twin leading shoe but not by much. Anything over that required to lock the front wheel is wasted. I'd rather have the feel of a drum and not have to worry about f*cking hydraulics and changing the pads all the time and master cylinders and seals... Drum brakes have good feel, too. Linear and progressive.

Only drawback of a drum is that when they overheat they're useless and that the really big ones weigh a touch more than a disc setup (not by much though once you count all the callipers etc.). Given that I'm not on a racetrack, I'd probably only use a good `handful' maybe every fourth or fifth time I commute. On an open-road ride, even less... most times the only brake that ever gets used is the rear drum, and engine braking to get my corner speed right.

Given that I don't need the benefits of a disc brake, I'll take the positives of a decent drum any day. Just as I don't need fairings or a screen to get that extra aerodymanics for top speed, I don't need a ridiculous twin-disc setup where 90% of its power is wasted beyond the ability of the front tyre to grip.

I'll have to go along with some of what you say. I had a Twin Leader on my old Triumph 650. That was one bloody good brake. When I got the bike, in a million bits, it had new linings etc and I thought I might just run the linings out then switch to a disc, but that never happened, it just wasn't required. I set it up carefully (having a Triumph guru on hand helped) and it was a real eye-opener. Many a time my riding buddies of the day (some still in the frame) commented on me going into corners too fast. Not.

The few occasions I was out-braked with that thing was when I was two-up and had the front brake too hot. Well over 90%, maybe more, of the time that TL was brilliant.

I do agree that Harley brakes were a joke until recently though. I have a six-pot in the shed that I had on my previous ride but the four-pot on the more modern ride seems to be doing things ok. One wet w/e I might swap for the 6-pot just to make a comparison but the single-pot on the older HD machines could well have been out-classed by that TL.

A Fontana was my dream.

[xwhatsit]

Fontana
That, sir, is porn.

<img src="http://victorylibrary.com/graphics/Menani-Fontana-210.jpg" /> <img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1JaxseFABC8/Rj5rvUbFiII/AAAAAAAAABc/wcMgVpTW-3o/s320/210mmBrakeR.jpg" />

[peasea]

Are those pics from your personal stash?

Aren't they great?

[Ecclesnz]

Problem solved. Today I pick up my new bike, a 2002 Honda Shadow Saber. 1100cc V-twin :D:D:D:D:D

And my old bike, the savage used to have drum rear brakes.

[retro asian]

Problem solved. Today I pick up my new bike, a 2002 Honda Shadow Saber. 1100cc V-twin :D:D:D:D:D

And my old bike, the savage used to have drum rear brakes.

Noice! :Punk:

Let us know how it goes, would be keen to hear.

[SilverGrin]

Nice work. Put some pics up ay?