View Full Version : R6'sssssss Im in love.
2_SL0
22nd March 2005, 20:11
Its prob been posted here before, but the more I look at it the more I like it.
Only problem is my mate said "That thing looks fast, AND U AINT" which is true. I might look a bit of a womble on it. Ghost Rider Womble, it has a certain ring to I think. :spudwhat:
Joni
22nd March 2005, 20:14
The Daytona 650 and the R6.... are honestly what my bike dreams are made of.... :love:
Storm
22nd March 2005, 20:20
Sorry if I missed this in another thread, but what is this suzuki arriving thing Joni?
PS only 8 more posts to be "a lady of negotiable affection" :2thumbsup
**R1**
22nd March 2005, 20:33
That looks the shit man:cool: I like it.
Waylander
22nd March 2005, 20:35
That looks the shit man:cool: I like it.
Maybe but the R1 looks SOOOOO much better!!:niceone:
Two Smoker
22nd March 2005, 20:36
Problems with the R6... No steering damper... Wheelies are very violent...
But other than that... i would have one.. after i bought my GSX-R....
And yeah Joni.... What Suzuki??? Welcome to the good side :niceone:
enigma51
22nd March 2005, 20:38
Cant say Im a big fan of that front end Why dont they make it look like the r1 now that is something to drool about
Joni
22nd March 2005, 20:39
Im not hi-jacking a R6 thread with suzuki talk..... sorry boys!!! :wari:
woooohoooo!
Monsterbishi
22nd March 2005, 20:42
Problems with the R6... No steering damper... Wheelies are very violent...
But other than that... i would have one.. after i bought my GSX-R....
And yeah Joni.... What Suzuki??? Welcome to the good side :niceone:
Don't forget that the R6 has been afflicted with the same problem as the new CBR600's too, they've all shrunk, so us tall folk now look like twats riding them.
Coyote
22nd March 2005, 20:43
http://www.kawasaki.com/kawasaki_main/images/products/MOTORCYCLE/1471_800.jpg
The R6 might be awesome, but this is just the awesomenessest
Two Smoker
22nd March 2005, 20:47
I need a talk with you Mr Alarumba...
You correct answer would have been, K5 GSX-R600
http://www.suzuki.co.nz/motorcycles/bike.images/search/GSX-R600K5.jpg (http://www.suzuki.co.nz/motorcycles/specs.html?id=273)
Storm
22nd March 2005, 20:48
Im not hi-jacking a R6 thread with suzuki talk..... sorry boys!!! :wari:
woooohoooo!
Feel free to PM yourself silly though :niceone:
Edit: Or just start a new thread :done:
2_SL0
22nd March 2005, 20:48
I luv Kwakas 2, but I would go 636 if I went down that road. First thing I would put on the R6, STEERING DAMPNER. Second thing, MEEEEEEEEEE on the seat.
But it will have to wait a while but I do like the Raven black.
:banana: Ghost Rider Womble :banana:
:2thumbsup
Everyone has a Suzuki, they are 2 common. (Judderbar runs for cover)
sAsLEX
22nd March 2005, 21:02
I need a talk with you Mr Alarumba...
You correct answer would have been, K5 GSX-R600
http://www.suzuki.co.nz/motorcycles/bike.images/search/GSX-R600K5.jpg (http://www.suzuki.co.nz/motorcycles/specs.html?id=273)
look a bit more like this dont they???
Coyote
22nd March 2005, 21:07
I need a talk with you Mr Alarumba...
You correct answer would have been, K5 GSX-R600
http://www.suzuki.co.nz/motorcycles/bike.images/search/GSX-R600K5.jpg (http://www.suzuki.co.nz/motorcycles/specs.html?id=273)
Why is that so great then?
Two Smoker
22nd March 2005, 21:31
Why is that so great then?
Better midrange whilst still having the same top end power, better front end feel and brakes, lighter... and a fuck load cheaper.... ZX-6RR retail at about 18000...
So in the end a superior bike...
John
22nd March 2005, 21:32
http://www.kawasaki.com/kawasaki_main/images/products/MOTORCYCLE/1471_800.jpg
The R6 might be awesome, but this is just the awesomenessest
amen brother, real men know what a real bike is :D
Two Smoker
22nd March 2005, 21:32
look a bit more like this dont they???
LOL.... Once the forks are on, she will look like a normal naked bike... Its going to be so good having the bars pointing in the same direction as the front wheel....
Waylander
22nd March 2005, 21:33
Better midrange whilst still having the same top end power, better front end feel and brakes, lighter... and a fuck load cheaper.... ZX-6RR retail at about 18000...
So in the end a superior bike...
None of wich means dick if ya can't ride it right. But then that goes for any bike.
2_SL0
22nd March 2005, 21:47
There is nothing wrong with "Ghost WOMBLE Rider" he looks fine. :wari:
bugjuice
22nd March 2005, 22:31
hell yeah Alarumba, but I'm still with the 03/04 model over the 05, the 05 has gone soft all over..
And TS - the ZX6R is the one to go for. 6R = 636 where as 6RR is 599cc. How many people are going to be racing theirs? So might as well go for the extra cc..
John
22nd March 2005, 22:36
hell yeah Alarumba, but I'm still with the 03/04 model over the 05, the 05 has gone soft all over..
And TS - the ZX6R is the one to go for. 6R = 636 where as 6RR is 599cc. How many people are going to be racing theirs? So might as well go for the extra cc..
doesnt the RR have a damper and better suspension control, and a more modified engine? (but lowerer Bore/CC)..
I'm going for an RR... :P they are fast either way.. R or double R.
Indiana_Jones
22nd March 2005, 22:37
Daytona 650
just too cool :D
-Indy
wkid_one
22nd March 2005, 22:40
I tend to think the CBR600RR is the best looking 600 and the ZXR600RR (not 636) is the wickedest
bugjuice
22nd March 2005, 22:44
doesnt the RR have a damper and better suspension control, and a more modified engine? (but lowerer Bore/CC)..
I'm going for an RR... :P they are fast either way.. R or double R.
The 2005 model is a new kettle of fish, but I was told that the 2003/4 R and RRs followed each other down the production line, but with 2 differences - 37cc's and stickers to show it.. As far as I'm aware, the suspension etc is the same. I've had my 04 next to an 04 RR and they looked the same. No dampers, same forks, same rear shock etc.. The other thing the RR has over the R is that Kawasaki make race parts for the RR (cams, crankshaft, pistons, pipes etc etc) for the race peeps out there, where as the 636 doesn't. Some bits fit, but aren't really meant to. So the extra 37cc the R has over the RR is mainly just that, else they're the same.
Now for the 2005 bikes, there's a list that goes on for ever between the changes. Most obvious is the RR has full coloured farings, where as the 636 'borrows' farings from the ZX10. Same for the brakes, shocks (I think) and a few other bits. The RR is thee 600 race bike for Kawa, where as the 636 is the 'giant leap for Kawa-kind' between the racing 600 and the racing 1000 that's restricted for tarmac terrorists..
bugjuice
22nd March 2005, 22:47
I tend to think the CBR600RR is the best looking 600 and the ZXR600RR (not 636) is the wickedest
I do quite like the CBR600RR, very angular and mean/sharp looking, but read a few places that it's a touch over-weight and under-powered, but I'm real sure I know it doesn't hang around.. As for the ZX, what's the diff between the RR and 636 that would make one wicked and the other not?
sAsLEX
22nd March 2005, 22:48
I tend to think the CBR600RR is the best looking 600 and the ZXR600RR (not 636) is the wickedest
yeah the new tribal version graces my wallpaper at the mo!!!
http://powersports.honda.com/images/model/c028_029_030_031_photos_all/motorcycles/2005/CBR600RR/LargeHoriz/CBR600RR_large_02.jpg
FEINT
22nd March 2005, 22:49
http://www.kawasaki.com/kawasaki_main/images/products/MOTORCYCLE/1471_800.jpg
The R6 might be awesome, but this is just the awesomenessest
amen.... sorry to hijack the thread but Alarumba has a point there.! :apint: :niceone:
I was looking around at prices today and K5 GSX-R 600 $17000 approx and Kawa ZX6R $15500 and Honda CBR600RR $16500 approx..
Zed
22nd March 2005, 23:47
Problems with the R6... No steering damper... Wheelies are very violent...Hey TS, how do you know about wheelies on the R6?
I took a 98 YZF600 Thundercat for a test ride a few weeks back and can confirm that what you say is true...gave me the biggest scare I've had on a bike for about 6 months!
750Y
23rd March 2005, 06:58
...Everyone has a Suzuki, they are 2 common. (Judderbar runs for cover)
judderbar.. judderbar.. judderbar... have you learnt nothing my son...
it says "take ONE tablet three times a day for 14 days". not 14 tablets 3 times a day. 8-)
Lou Girardin
23rd March 2005, 11:27
Its prob been posted here before, but the more I look at it the more I like it.
Only problem is my mate said "That thing looks fast, AND U AINT" which is true. I might look a bit of a womble on it. Ghost Rider Womble, it has a certain ring to I think. :spudwhat:
Why not stick with the FZ6 and embarrass R6 riders in the tight and twisty's
inlinefour
23rd March 2005, 11:42
However I believe it just boils down to personal preference. I have sussed out all the 600-636 2005 bikes and they are really on par with each other. Some with additions that others don't have etc etc.
The R6 looks like an awesome bike and the picture of the KAwasaki is now on my wallpaper. However I still feel the want to get the CBR600RR and I doubt very much that will change. Would be a pretty boring world if we all thad the same bikes...
2_SL0
23rd March 2005, 12:06
Why not stick with the FZ6 and embarrass R6 riders in the tight and twisty's
The Fz6 isnt going anwhere for a while yet. I will be looking towards the end of this year. But what ever I look at it will have a hard job to impress me versus my FZ6. I do enjoy this bike, and find it great thru the twisties. :yeah:
2_SL0
23rd March 2005, 12:15
judderbar.. judderbar.. judderbar... have you learnt nothing my son...
it says "take ONE tablet three times a day for 14 days". not 14 tablets 3 times a day. 8-)
whoopsee I didnt read the label. Just took the lot in one go. 1 pill must be good 42 will be amazing. :banana: :banana: :banana: :wari: :wari: :shake:
bugjuice
23rd March 2005, 12:47
However I believe it just boils down to personal preference. I have sussed out all the 600-636 2005 bikes and they are really on par with each other. Some with additions that others don't have etc etc.
The R6 looks like an awesome bike and the picture of the KAwasaki is now on my wallpaper. However I still feel the want to get the CBR600RR and I doubt very much that will change. Would be a pretty boring world if we all thad the same bikes...
that's the thing.. When I was looking for my next toy after being on the CBR250, I rode an R6, CBR600RR and the 636. I wanted to ride the Triumph 650 and Suzuki too, but I didn't get the opotunity to. But, to me coming off a 250, they all felt similar in power, just the riding position was slightly different in each. At the end of the day, the limited edition orange sold the bike to me, but if I hadn't have seen that, then I wouldn't have a clue what I'd be riding now.. And unless you've been riding 600s for a while, I doubt most people would be able to tell, especially going from smaller bikes up.. Just ride and buy what suits you best
That Guy
23rd March 2005, 13:09
Off topic abit sorry but By the way bugjuice - was that you on the weekend practising wheelies down Francis St? If so be careful - there are a few lonely oldies around that get a kick out taking number plates and calling the cops to give out tickets etc; and there are a couple of cops who live on that street too - but there's also me who enjoys watching some holiganism! :banana:
bugjuice
23rd March 2005, 13:27
Off topic abit sorry but By the way bugjuice - was that you on the weekend practising wheelies down Francis St? If so be careful - there are a few lonely oldies around that get a kick out taking number plates and calling the cops to give out tickets etc; and there are a couple of cops who live on that street too - but there's also me who enjoys watching some holiganism! :banana:
lmao.. where abouts are you? Were you standing outside your drive?
Yeah, was me, I had a new rear tyre to scrub in and I was feelin a little cocky, so thought I'd just do one up and down the street. I have a strict rule about being in quiet areas and not to do them around other people, or with cars around that I know aren't with me (the black scooby following was with me), and not around parked cars. Not that any of this makes it right, I just want to minimise any risks. I saw a couple of oldie's eyeing up my plate, but I had already decided that I had done enough by then. I don't like doing it too much in one spot as it is, let alone in my own back yard!
More importantly, how did I look?
You should pop round some time for a catch up!
That Guy
23rd March 2005, 13:42
SCore......hmmm.....I'd only give you a 3 out of 10 sorry. :shake: Need to get more vertical and for longer; and into 2nd, 3rd etc.... Having said that I'm shite at wheelies and always have been, and I still enjoyed watching your efforts. Only on my old firestorm did I feel like I was getting the hang of it....the GSXR (probably like your ZX) feels like it wants to flip...
As for hooning round Francis St etc; its one of the biggest pain in the arses living in Auckland having to ride for an hour to find somewhere to really get going without attracting too much attention; but by then you could be at a track. Get your ZX to Puke for a test day.... :done:
bugjuice
23rd March 2005, 13:49
SCore......hmmm.....I'd only give you a 3 out of 10 sorry. :shake: Need to get more vertical and for longer; and into 2nd, 3rd etc.... Having said that I'm shite at wheelies and always have been, and I still enjoyed watching your efforts. Only on my old firestorm did I feel like I was getting the hang of it....the GSXR (probably like your ZX) feels like it wants to flip...
As for hooning round Francis St etc; its one of the biggest pain in the arses living in Auckland having to ride for an hour to find somewhere to really get going without attracting too much attention; but by then you could be at a track. Get your ZX to Puke for a test day.... :done:
already goin to Puke, as long as the weather holds good, also Taupo on April 10 too.
3/10? pfft.. you must have missed the minter I did on the other street then.. I'm getting there, but it's more like out of 10 tries, 3 are good.. but I'll get there with practice.. I'm happy for the front to come up now, but sometimes I panic a little when it comes up too quick, but if it feels right, then I gun it.. Been doing 2nd gear too, but I have to be rollin around 80k's first, so around there, I didn't want to be doing that. I'm often looking for 120ks by touch down, so may be not.. Same for 3rd gear (can do those too, but only ickle, more power wheelies at the mo).. Slow n stead as she goes..
Shade
23rd March 2005, 17:48
mm, all this talk about the latest bikes -
I think its all down to personal preferance. If you like the look and comfort, get it. I doubt anyone on this site could ride them to their 99% limit to find the difference's in each. And if you could, you should be racing F2/F1.
All the fast top end / better mid range / blah blah doesnt mean too much when your only riding 60-80% of what the bikes capable of. Especially for the street.
Waylander
23rd March 2005, 17:56
How this grab ya kiwis?
SPman
23rd March 2005, 18:09
judderbar.. judderbar.. judderbar... have you learnt nothing my son...
it says "take ONE tablet three times a day for 14 days". not 14 tablets 3 times a day. 8-)
Soooo..how do you take one tablet, three times a day.....stick a bit of string on it and yank it out? 14 days....ooooo painful
Two Smoker
23rd March 2005, 18:39
amen.... sorry to hijack the thread but Alarumba has a point there.! :apint: :niceone:
I was looking around at prices today and K5 GSX-R 600 $17000 approx and Kawa ZX6R $15500 and Honda CBR600RR $16500 approx..
Incorrect, I bought my K5 GSX-R600 for $15995... and im talking about the ZX-6RR (mainly because i would use it for racing...) which costs about 17000 because of the extras like slipper clutch...
Two Smoker
23rd March 2005, 18:40
Hey TS, how do you know about wheelies on the R6?
I took a 98 YZF600 Thundercat for a test ride a few weeks back and can confirm that what you say is true...gave me the biggest scare I've had on a bike for about 6 months!
Dave's R6 :whistle:
Coyote
23rd March 2005, 19:02
And TS - the ZX6R is the one to go for. 6R = 636 where as 6RR is 599cc. How many people are going to be racing theirs?
Me
Still like the Gixxer, still another year and a half to think about it
Coyote
23rd March 2005, 19:05
Better midrange whilst still having the same top end power, better front end feel and brakes, lighter... and a fuck load cheaper.... ZX-6RR retail at about 18000...
So in the end a superior bike...
Sounds good. But I'm not sure you have the correct price for the RR. On the Kawaskai America site, they have the RR only 200 USD more than the R
The real decider is whats fastest :yeah:
2_SL0
23rd March 2005, 19:08
You have all got off track, you are only allowed in here to drool over the R6.
I agree if Iwent for Kwaka it would be the 636, as the 600 is aimed at a race market.
Two Smoker
23rd March 2005, 19:44
Sounds good. But I'm not sure you have the correct price for the RR. On the Kawaskai America site, they have the RR only 200 USD more than the R
The real decider is whats fastest :yeah:
LOL, easy... What were the top four racers riding in the NZ supersport 600 class??? GSX-R 600's....
But to be honest... if i wasnt Suzuki mad.... i would probably look towards the CBR600 as a race bike, and either a 636 or Gixxer as a road bike...
Coyote
23rd March 2005, 20:36
LOL, easy... What were the top four racers riding in the NZ supersport 600 class??? GSX-R 600's....
But to be honest... if i wasnt Suzuki mad.... i would probably look towards the CBR600 as a race bike, and either a 636 or Gixxer as a road bike...
Maybe I'l just have to try test ride one at manfeild next month :whistle:
Two Smoker
23rd March 2005, 20:55
Maybe I'l just have to try test ride one at manfeild next month :whistle:
And what bike would that be???
wkid_one
23rd March 2005, 22:03
Sounds good. But I'm not sure you have the correct price for the RR. On the Kawaskai America site, they have the RR only 200 USD more than the R
The real decider is whats fastest :yeah:
600RR is in the $20's in NZ - high spec race bike - higher performance than the 636 and a lot more aggressive - nicer bike to ride actually - rode them both back to back.
Would put the 600RR first, CBR600RR next, 636 then GSXR then r6
Krusti
23rd March 2005, 22:18
As for hooning round Francis St etc; its one of the biggest pain in the arses living in Auckland having to ride for an hour to find somewhere to really get going without attracting too much attention; but by then you could be at a track. Get your ZX to Puke for a test day.... :done:
God I hate living on a back country bendy road :banana:
gav
23rd March 2005, 22:38
Theres a S/H ZX6RR on trade me at the mo, I'd post a link but Trade Me seems to be playing up
http://202.21.128.4/photoserver/thumb/23/8621323.jpg
ZX6RR on Trade Me (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports-tourer/auction-24165629.htm)
OK, has $14K buy now, with plenty of fruity bits!
wkid_one
23rd March 2005, 22:40
Meh - new one has underseat exhaust - looks the dogs danglies! (except less dangly and more hidden I guess)
bugjuice
23rd March 2005, 22:48
nah, the 05 ZX6 is fugly compared to mine. The 05 is just soft. Sorry to anyone that has one (good on ya), but get them together and I'll show you what I mean..
wkid_one
23rd March 2005, 22:50
No - ZX6RR not new 636. I think you will find the ZX6RR is sex on wheels - try reading whole thread before jumping in to defend your bike:wari:
gav
23rd March 2005, 23:13
http://www.mcnews.com.au/Wallpaper/Kawasaki/ZX6R/2005/zx6_2005_green_rhf_1024.jpg
Look pretty similiar to me, the 05 ZX6RR and ZX6R
http://www.mcnews.com.au/Testing/Kawasaki/ZX6R/2005/colours_700p.jpg
http://www.motorsports-network.com/kawasaki/05street/zx6rrrt2.jpg
seems these are the only differences apart from 37cc ?
* Polished intake ports, revised porting, new combustion chambers and larger exhaust valves, plus new racing cams, all contribute to increased performance
* To suit non-modified stock racing classes, the six-speed transmission features close ratios similar to those of the 2004 racing kit transmission
* Inner fork tubes feature a TiSiCN coating to reduce sliding friction (stiction) and improve suspension action
* Revised damping valve for the rear shock offers a wider range of settings for racing
* Steering damper boss provided on the left frame rail
* Low-expansion front brake hoses improve brake feel
Two Smoker
23rd March 2005, 23:24
Theres a S/H ZX6RR on trade me at the mo, I'd post a link but Trade Me seems to be playing up
http://202.21.128.4/photoserver/thumb/23/8621323.jpg
ZX6RR on Trade Me (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports-tourer/auction-24165629.htm)
OK, has $14K buy now, with plenty of fruity bits!
Thats Nick Coles old bike... looks like he is either buying a new one or moving up into Superbikes...
bugjuice
23rd March 2005, 23:50
Look pretty similiar to me, the 05 ZX6RR and ZX6R
seems these are the only differences apart from 37cc ?
* Polished intake ports, revised porting, new combustion chambers and larger exhaust valves, plus new racing cams, all contribute to increased performance
* To suit non-modified stock racing classes, the six-speed transmission features close ratios similar to those of the 2004 racing kit transmission
* Inner fork tubes feature a TiSiCN coating to reduce sliding friction (stiction) and improve suspension action
* Revised damping valve for the rear shock offers a wider range of settings for racing
* Steering damper boss provided on the left frame rail
* Low-expansion front brake hoses improve brake feel
chill dude, those specs are for the '05 bikes, ay? I was comparing the 03/04 R and RR, not 05. I know there's a ton of differences between the 05 R and RRs, that's why I said it way back in post 25 (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=200002&postcount=25) in this thread.. Not sure why Kawa went kazi on the '05 636, but the differences between the 03/04 Rs and RRs weren't that huge. There were some, but not as many as this year round.. the 05 is a good bike, probably better than the 03/04 as that's how evolution goes, but physically looking, the 05 has softer lines, just a personal pref, I prefer the sharper, and those who I've spoken to, most have agreed
bugjuice
24th March 2005, 00:01
Thats Nick Coles old bike... looks like he is either buying a new one or moving up into Superbikes...
I've got a mate who's done the same. He's selling his ZX6R cos he's now riding a ZX10.. if anyone's interested.. ;)
Coyote
24th March 2005, 18:37
600RR is in the $20's in NZ - high spec race bike - higher performance than the 636 and a lot more aggressive - nicer bike to ride actually - rode them both back to back.
Would put the 600RR first, CBR600RR next, 636 then GSXR then r6
Argh, why have they jacked up the price over here? It'll be cheaper to import it.
I was planning to do serious racing so the 600RR does look like the ideal bike thus far. Shame that it happens to be so damned expensive over here. For crying out loud, its only 200 USD MORE in america :angry2: :angry2:
gav
24th March 2005, 20:07
chill dude, those specs are for the '05 bikes, ay? I was comparing the 03/04 R and RR, not 05. I know there's a ton of differences between the 05 R and RRs, that's why I said it way back in post 25 (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=200002&postcount=25) in this thread.. Not sure why Kawa went kazi on the '05 636, but the differences between the 03/04 Rs and RRs weren't that huge. There were some, but not as many as this year round.. the 05 is a good bike, probably better than the 03/04 as that's how evolution goes, but physically looking, the 05 has softer lines, just a personal pref, I prefer the sharper, and those who I've spoken to, most have agreed
I actually thought that the 05 models are closer than they use to be, and that the 05 636 has alot of the trick bits that the RR only had before?
ie there use to be big differences between the RR and the 636, things like the adjustable swing arm pivot, gearbox, suspension etc were all only found on the RR, now both models are very similiar spec? Is this not correct?
bugjuice
24th March 2005, 21:18
I actually thought that the 05 models are closer than they use to be, and that the 05 636 has alot of the trick bits that the RR only had before?
ie there use to be big differences between the RR and the 636, things like the adjustable swing arm pivot, gearbox, suspension etc were all only found on the RR, now both models are very similiar spec? Is this not correct?
the 05s are almost 2 different bikes from what I've seen, read and heard. Engines all different (the 03/04s were, but not this far apart), suspension setup, swing arm, brakes.. goes on and on.. As for the 03/04s, you could almost transplant any part from one and stick it on another, save for engine parts. If you want more adjustability on shocks etc, then you just change the backs, or the front are fully adjustable as stock. Neither the R or RR came with a damper (needs them). We should (if poss) get an 03/04 R and RR, and if there's any around, an 05 R and RR, and stick them all together. The 05s are worlds apart, but the 03/04s aren't all that far..
I know a couple of 05 636s around, but not heard of any RRs around yet..
Also, there's this (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=200002&postcount=25) site, not sure how acurate/creditable the data is, but makes you wonder a little more..
gav
24th March 2005, 22:05
Seen my post #57 in this thread? The two bikes look absolute identical, I can't tell them apart, can you? apart from one says 600 and the other says 636?
This is stolen from MC News Oz
Details of the 2005 ZX-6R and ZX-6RR
August 28th, 2004 - By, Trevor Hedge
MCNEWS.COM.AU - The ultimate in motorcycle news
Kawasaki’s ZX-6R has been a strong performer for the brand over more than a decade now. The model scored a complete redesign in 2003 and for 2005 the green brigade are again coming out in force with a heavily revised ZX-6R and ZX-6RR.
The most obvious change is the move to bodywork resembling that of the ZX-10R. But Kawasaki are claiming aerodynamic improvements with the updated styling and state that the new machine is the most aerodynamically efficient motorcycle they have ever made. Kawasaki have also followed the trend of fitting an underseat muffler to their supersport machine.
In the engine room Kawasaki engineers have also been working hard with a new cylinder block and head. New oval shaped 38mm throttle bodies feature two injectors per cylinder and Kawasaki claim their new shape throttle bodies free up room while also increasing airflow. In the new cylinder head reside larger intake and exhaust valves which are actuated by new camshafts. The limited production ZX-6RR race machine scores revised intake ports which are polished by the factory and combine with a new combustion chamber design and larger exhaust valves. New pistons swing off a new crankshaft which features larger main journals. A thicker crankcase design has followed Suzuki’s lead with breathing passages milled in to their design to help realise lower crankcase pressures. Other detail changes include revised mountings for the oil filter and new aluminium oil cooler. The oil pump drive ratio has been revised and now draws from a deeper sump.
The gearbox has also come in for attention on both models with stronger internals. The ZX-6R scores a taller third gear while the track destined ZX-6RR now ships with ratios similar to that only seen before in the racing kit gearbox.
Both models feature an upgraded engine management system to control the second set of injectors and also to actuate the new back pressure valve in the exhaust system. Both are equipped with a back torque limiting wet clutch.
The new matt black aluminium frame offers a shortened wheelbase with a longer braced aluminium swingarm now pivoting further forward in the machine which now rolls on a slightly reduced wheelbase.
Showa supply the fully adjustable rear shock while a revised Uni-Trak linkage promises to provide a more linear transition through the stroke of the rear suspension. The 41mm upside-down forks score a trick new surface coating to reduce stiction. On the race inspired ZX-6RR this coating is also applied to internal surfaces of the sliders.
We have seen the radially mounted brake calipers before on this model while the disc rotors have now grown to 300mm in diameter and are of the trick new petal design normally only seen on race bikes. The front master cylinder has also been improved which will be a great relief to racers loyal to the Kawasaki brand. The rear disc now mounts directly on the swingarm.
The previous machines had three-spoke wheels but the new machine arrives with six-spoke rims shod with a 120/65ZR17 at the front and 180/55ZR17 at the rear.
Ergonomics have also changed with the bar to footpeg distance reduced to closely resemble the performance based riding position seen on the ZX-10R open class superbike.
SPECS - 2005 Kawasaki ZX-6R and (ZX-6RR)
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Engine: 636cc, liquid-cooled, DOHC, in-line, four-cylinder (599cc on the ZX-6RR)
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Bore x Stroke: 68 x 43.8mm (67 x 42.5mm on the ZX-6RR)
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Compression: 12.9:1 (13.5:1 on the ZX-6RR)
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Induction: EFI with 4 x 38mm oval throttle bodies
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Starter: Electric
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Transmission: Six speed with back torque limiting clutch
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Final Drive: Chain
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Fuel Capacity: 17 litres
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Tyres: Front _ 120/65ZR17; Rear _ 180/55ZR17
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Suspension: Front _ Fully adjustable 41mm inverted telescopic forks; Rear _ Fully adjustable single Showa shock
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Brakes: Front _ 300mm discs, radial mounted four-piston calipers; Rear _ 220mm single disc
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Price: TBA
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Warranty: Two years, unlimited kilometres
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Available: TBC
gav
24th March 2005, 22:12
the 05s are almost 2 different bikes from what I've seen, read and heard. Engines all different
This bit from your post, are you saying the 05 636 and 05 600RR are two different bikes, or different from the 03/04 model?
From what I've read the two 05 models are closer than they've ever been but both are well upgraded from 04.
bugjuice
24th March 2005, 23:13
the 05s are almost 2 different bikes from what I've seen, read and heard. Engines all different
This bit from your post, are you saying the 05 636 and 05 600RR are two different bikes, or different from the 03/04 model?
From what I've read the two 05 models are closer than they've ever been but both are well upgraded from 04.
wow, that's a lot to read when you're cream crackered.. Thanks for the read tho..
I was saying that I was lead to believe that the 04 R and RR were very similar bikes, the engine being the main difference, where as the 05 R and RR had many differences..
Agreed the 05 is a huge onleap from previous bikes. It's completely redesigned bike from the engine out, so no question the 05 isn't something new.
The differences I saw and heard about the 05 R and RRs was a lot tho. The 636 was 'borrowing' quite a few bits from the ZX10 such as the farings (636 has black lower half farings, like the 10, where as the R has full colour farings), brakes ('rose' edging) and rear swing arm (shorter than the RR) etc (hard to remember without having anything in front).
Think I'm gonna head back to the shop and get the two side by side and have a real good look.. Either way, they're both blindingly good bikes.. I'd be interested to find out the power, torque and weight of the two bikes
Sniper
25th March 2005, 08:40
Hmmmmmmmmm, R 6 power, loverly
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