Confederate flag... WTF?

[wbks]

I keep seeing them as patches on this aussie biker gang show on right now, and I have seen them so many times in the cab of trucks, on peoples walls and on clothes etc here in NZ... So why? No one I've seen with one is from (the south of) the states, mostly know nothing about the American civil war, and always seem to be red necks who at a guess are only interested in the racial slavery involved with it...

So why do people have them? C'mon, I'm sure someone here has one:shifty:

[SARGE]

I keep seeing them as patches on this aussie biker gang show on right now, and I have seen them so many times in the cab of trucks, on peoples walls and on clothes etc here in NZ... So why? No one I've seen with one is from the (south of) the states, mostly know nothing about the American civil war, and always seem to be red necks who at a guess are only interested in the racial slavery involved with it...

So why do people have them? C'mon, I'm sure someone here has one:shifty:

yea .. i have one ..or 2


but i really do come from a long line of horse thieves and moonshiners :done:

[wbks]

Actually, if you had one I could respect that, because I can understand that the flag could represent a piece of your family/area's history that goes further than pretty much the only thing people associate it with. Racism/slavery. I just find it funny when someone who has usually never even been there wears the flag because of what I just mentioned.

[MisterD]

Simple...Wannabe "rebels" display that flag in exactly the same unthinking way that wannabe "revolutionaries" wear Che Guevara t-Shirts...plonkers the lot of 'em. Either that or they're old school Dukes of Hazard fans like Sarge. :done:

[98tls]

Reminds me of our offerings back in the day ie Mongrol Mob sporting Nazi party flags.:rofl::rofl:Germanic forefathers must have pissed themselves.:laugh:

[SARGE]

Either that or they're old school Dukes of Hazard fans like Sarge. :done:

nah man .. 1/2 my family fought on the Union side and the other half fought for the Confederacy.. found out 2 ancestors actually fought in the same battle on different sides


and the ones who wernt firing guns were selling them :done:

[98tls]

Actually, if you had one I could respect that, because I can understand that the flag could represent a piece of your family/area's history that goes further than pretty much the only thing people associate it with. Racism/slavery. I just find it funny when someone who has usually never even been there wears the flag because of what I just mentioned. The origins of said flag (if its the one your on about) are often confused,its the battle flag of Northern Virginia,no racism no anything,simply the battle flag of northern Virginia.

[Elysium]

"Big wheels keep on turning..."

[wbks]

Reminds me of our offerings back in the day ie Mongrol Mob sporting Nazi party flags.:rofl::rofl:Germanic forefathers must have pissed themselves.:laugh:I don't know how long it's been since you have been in a High school, but it's really seriously funny right now how many Maori "gangsters" (just saying... They aren't exactly blond haired blue eyed western euros) walk around saying/shouting "seig heil":laugh: I think it's some mongrel mob thing?


nah man .. 1/2 my family fought on the Union side and the other half fought for the Confederacy.. found out 2 ancestors actually fought in the same battle on different sides


and the ones who wernt firing guns were selling them :done:lol badass.

[scumdog]

Total fun here then - ride a Harley, wear tassled jacket, open faced helmet with skull-mask, bars'n'stars bandana around my neck....:jerry:

[wbks]

Total fun here then - ride a Harley, wear tassled jacket, open faced helmet with skull-mask, bars'n'stars bandana around my neck....:jerry:I wouldn't give a shit... If you just like the way it looks than who cares?


The origins of said flag (if its the one your on about) are often confused,its the battle flag of Northern Virginia,no racism no anything,simply the battle flag of northern Virginia.Yea, but a confederate flag, nonetheless?

[kasper]

Yep got one.

even has a skull and cross bones across the front. and yes i do display it whilst in the truck.
Who needs a black backgroudn when you have the red white and blue.

--kasper

[98tls]

I wouldn't give a shit... If you just like the way it looks than who cares?

Yea, but a confederate flag, nonetheless? Indeed it was.Though with far less sinister meaning then than what is conveyed these days,or at least mis-understood.

[wbks]

Yep got one.

even has a skull and cross bones across the front. and yes i do display it whilst in the truck.
Who needs a black backgroudn when you have the red white and blue.

--kasperHow come?


Indeed it was.Though with far less sinister meaning then than what is conveyed these days,or at least mis-understood.Yea dude, of course it is misunderstood, that's why I said so many rednecks seem to have them.

[Mikkel]

I don't know how long it's been since you have been in a High school, but it's really seriously funny right now how many Maori "gangsters" (just saying... They aren't exactly blond haired blue eyed western euros) walk around saying/shouting "seig heil":laugh: I think it's some mongrel mob thing?

Ross Kemp's exposé on the gangs of NZ kinda explained the MM approach to nazi symbolism - it's not so much about the nazis, it's just about pissing off the establishment. In which case it makes perfect sense...

The biggest difference between white supremacists today and those of half a century or more ago, is that the average IQ has fallen significantly. The truly scary thing about the nazis is the fact that plenty of intelligent, talented, hardworking and ambitious men bought into it.

[Ixion]

I wish I was in Dixie, Hooray! Hooray!
In Dixie Land I'll take my stand
to live and die in Dixie.
Away, away, away down south in Dixie.
Away, away, away down south in Dixieland

...
If you want to have a good time, jine the cavalry!
Jine the cavalry! Jine the cavalry!
If you want to catch the Devil, if you want to have fun,
If you want to smell Hell, jine the cavalry!

Jeb Stuart was a fine cavalryman, and Jefferson Davis was at least a gentleman. Which is more than could be said for either that insufferable prig Lincoln or the boor Grant.

[98tls]

Ross Kemp's exposé on the gangs of NZ kinda explained the MM approach to nazi symbolism - it's not so much about the nazis, it's just about pissing off the establishment. In which case it makes perfect sense...

The biggest difference between white supremacists today and those of half a century or more ago, is that the average IQ has fallen significantly. The truly scary thing about the nazis is the fact that plenty of intelligent, talented, hardworking and ambitious men bought into it. These days they prefer "white nationalist".Not that much has changed really when you think about it.:laugh::doh:

[Swoop]

Have a read about the series of flags.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_flag

[NDORFN]

It's like when every teenager wore a USA hoody about 5 years ago. Time for a revision of the geography curriculum.

[Laxi]

It's like when every teenager wore a USA hoody about 5 years ago. Time for a revision of the geography curriculum.

or buying a bike cause it has made in usa stamped on it:shifty:

[Skyryder]

I've only seen one displayed over here and that was at one of the music festivals that John Hore and his wife use to run at I think it was at Whitecliifs.

I can't see the relevance of it outside of the USA other than to promote a badarse image.

Southerners that's a different story..........it's and emblem of culture and to some extent a lost cause.

Skyryder

[kasper]

How come?.


Because we were out shopping I saw it and thought "COOL!" was reaching for my purse before i thought of a use for it.


--kasper

[NDORFN]

Because we were out shopping I saw it and thought "COOL!" was reaching for my purse before i thought of a use for it.


--kasper

Sure it wasn't because you hate niggers, spics, gooks and towel-heads and love oil, guns, corporate greed and fucking your sister?

[Forest]

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[Elysium]

Sure it wasn't because you hate niggers, spics, gooks and towel-heads and love oil, guns, corporate greed and fucking your sister?
Don't need a Confed flag for that, the American flag would do fine.

[SARGE]

Sure it wasn't because you hate niggers, spics, gooks and towel-heads and love oil, guns, corporate greed and fucking your sister?

yea .. all Americans are like that ..


turn your tv off for a minute bro



Don't need a Confed flag for that, the American flag would do fine.


yea ... you'll keep too

[SARGE]

Jeb Stuart was a fine cavalryman, and Jefferson Davis was at least a gentleman. Which is more than could be said for either that insufferable prig Lincoln or the boor Grant.

im sure you knew them all personally ya old fossil :done:

[NDORFN]

yea .. all Americans are like that ..


turn your tv off for a minute bro

I have. Haven't watched TV in 6 months (New Years resolution). We read in our household. I wasn't refering to all Americans, just the Southern State Republicans with Confederate geneology.

[SARGE]

I wasn't refering to all Americans, just the Southern State Republicans with Confederate geneology.

yea .. thats me...

[NDORFN]

yea .. thats me...

Sorry to hear. Well I'm half English if that makes you feel any better.

[SARGE]

yea... * yawn*

[NDORFN]

yea... * yawn*

Put me on ignore then yankie doodle dickhead.

[SARGE]

well i wasnt going to until that ...


you need to switch to Decaf bro... sounds like ya woke up snappy


nice knowing ya ( not really.. just thought i'd be polite)

#493 for the list

[NDORFN]

well i wasnt going to until that ...


you need to switch to Decaf bro... sounds like ya woke up snappy


nice knowing ya ( not really.. just thought i'd be polite)

#493 for the list

An American put me on ignore. I feel so... like... Darfur :( Wish I had some oil.

[kasper]

Sure it wasn't because you hate niggers, spics, gooks and towel-heads and love oil, guns, corporate greed and fucking your sister?


No.

--Kasper

[scumdog]

Sure it wasn't because you hate niggers, spics, gooks and towel-heads and love oil, guns, corporate greed and fucking your sister?

You make all that sound so..so..wrong:scratch:

[Kemet]

You make all that sound so..so..wrong:scratch:
you're in the wrong job then...
wasn't the last work place scandal in your job area involving animals (not saying it was your branch..... of course)

[MIXONE]

Sure it wasn't because you hate niggers, spics, gooks and towel-heads and love oil, guns, corporate greed and fucking your sister?


I have. Haven't watched TV in 6 months (New Years resolution). We read in our household. I wasn't refering to all Americans, just the Southern State Republicans with Confederate geneology.

Fuck that must be a big spade you've got there because you just keep on digging!

[ratast]

Now all been explained why some people have a penchant for adorning themselves, their trucks, their utes and getting tattooed with a Confederate flag, why do Aussies love flying the Eureka Stockard flag. Bet half them wouldn't know what it represented beyond a bar room story when they were tanked up on XXXX.
Cheers Ratast

[Skyryder]

Now all been explained why some people have a penchant for adorning themselves, their trucks, their utes and getting tattooed with a Confederate flag, why do Aussies love flying the Eureka Stockard flag. Bet half them wouldn't know what it represented beyond a bar room story when they were tanked up on XXXX.
Cheers Ratast

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Flag


Skyryder