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Colapop
16th June 2009, 08:13
As read on Stuff this morning... Stuff Link (http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/swine-flu/2502889/Swine-flu-parties-not-recommended)
Swine Flu parties are being held to become deliberately infected with the H1N1 virus in the hope that it will create an imunity to a possibly more virulent strain of the virus in the future. I'm a firm believer in the strongest of the species survive - if you get it and live, then it's good. If you don't survive the species is stronger - which can be tough when we ourselves are creating stronger diseases but that's a whole other issue. The question here is; should we vaccinate by synthetic means or let this virus take it's course and thin out the population? So then are Swine Flu parties a good idea or just plain stupid?
"It's vigilante vaccination you know, taking immunity into your own hands."
Hasn't that happened for 100's of years anyway?

Indiana_Jones
16th June 2009, 08:25
When and where baby?

-Indy

CookMySock
16th June 2009, 08:28
I'm a firm believer in the strongest of the species survive - if you get it and live, then it's good. If you don't survive the species is stronger WTF? People who have had it say its trivial. It's not about survial.

Steve

Kemet
16th June 2009, 08:32
Are you implying that a KB member needs an excuse to have a party??!!:laugh::laugh:

I say
Bring it on!!!

The Pastor
16th June 2009, 08:33
WTF? People who have had it say its trivial. It's not about survial.

Steve
well that all depends if you have access to a 1st class health system isnt it?

riffer
16th June 2009, 08:34
Personally, I think it's quite sensible. At the moment we have a virus that's not causing major grief to those who have it. The Health Department's policy on containment is not going to be effective long-term, and it WILL get out.

I'd much rather get the swine flu now, while it's mil, then get it later on in winter once it's mutated into something that will really fuck me up.

Let's party!

NDORFN
16th June 2009, 08:35
well that all depends if you have access to a 1st class health system isnt it?

This is true.

Swoop
16th June 2009, 08:35
Will there be pies???
Pork pies, obviously...:shifty:

NDORFN
16th June 2009, 08:36
I'll bring some oinkment. BADUM CHHHHH!

Naki Rat
16th June 2009, 09:05
Swine flu media paranoia. To sell Tamiflu ? An emergency response services practice ? A smoke screen to divert the sheeple's attention ? A medical 'experts' talkfest ?

Pfffft. Let's party :Punk::drinknsin:finger::buggerd:

pzkpfw
16th June 2009, 09:38
Yesterday in the news they said up to a third of Victorians (Aussies) already may have it.

Seems it's gonna get around anyway, party or not.

And in the more developed parts of the world, the mortality rates seems pretty low.

I've decided I'm not yet concenred at all. (Not for this virus.)

Colapop
16th June 2009, 09:44
WTF? People who have had it say its trivial. It's not about survial.

Steve
Obviuosly a generalised comment DB. H1N1 has been fatal for some people. In saying that, so has standard influenza as had H5N1 (bird flu)

portokiwi
16th June 2009, 09:50
100 in NZ now.....:no: going to get worse

Naki Rat
16th June 2009, 10:06
100 in NZ now.....:no: going to get worse

Big deal. That's just the ones who have bothered to have their 'flu indentified. Live and eat healthy and it will come and go just like the usual 'flus. If you have preexisting health problems you may have something to worry about.

Headbanger
16th June 2009, 10:17
I'll take it seriously when it kills 100 people.

Mikkel
16th June 2009, 11:26
I'll take it seriously when it kills 100 people.

...per day.

Brownstoo
16th June 2009, 11:39
Well I'm not alowed to go to exams if I have any swine symptoms...

Swoop
16th June 2009, 11:58
I expect swine 'flu will mutate with bird 'flu.

Flying pig disease! FTW!:Punk:

Kemet
16th June 2009, 12:46
They once said that the day a black man became president of the United States of America pigs would fly...
Obama's first 100 days in office... Bam!!
A Pig Flu
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:doh:

Deano
16th June 2009, 13:02
Any flu in my household at the moment could require my son to be hospitalised. So I will avoid it like the plague that it is (LOL).

Mschvs
16th June 2009, 14:30
Seems so far worldwide there has been around 117 fatalities from Swine flu total. Most of which were in Mexico, in areas with poor medical facilities.

Bird Flu - worldwide fatalities at 30/05/09 - 99

Apparently ... according to Wikipedia, there are 36,000 deaths in America alone from Influenza each year.

Between 8.5-12 million people annually die of starvation worldwide.

Remind me again, what is so .... deathly scary about swine flu? Sweats? Aching muscles?? What?

Mschvs
16th June 2009, 14:36
Bird-Flu Deaths Spur Need for More Effective Drugs (Update4) (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601100&sid=aS8Vxm3iyOs8)

In case anyone was wondering why there is such a lot of scaremongering going on? Who do you think is benefitting most from bird/swine flu 'PANDEMICS'?????

Maha
16th June 2009, 14:37
Seems so far worldwide there has been around 117 fatalities from Swine flu total. Most of which were in Mexico, in areas with poor medical facilities.

Apparently ... according to Wikipedia, there are 36,000 deaths in America alone from Influenza each year.

Between 8.5-12 million people annually die of starvation worldwide.

Remind me again, what is so .... deathly scary about swine flu? Sweats? Aching muscles?? What?

Some people can die with a broken leg, but it wasn't the broken leg that killed them. Its just a Flu virus, but if you live in a cardboard box with rats and other infestations then, chances are, that if you contract this lastest virus it will effectly kill you because you body has lost all its will power to fight anymore.

3L4NS1R
16th June 2009, 14:50
if you live in a cardboard box with rats and other infestations then, chances are, that if you contract this lastest virus it will effectly kill you

Fuck. So I'm done for...

Maha
16th June 2009, 14:57
Fuck. So I'm done for...

Unless you have air conditioning?

Rockbuddy
16th June 2009, 15:08
its all a big scare to get rid off all the tamiflu tablets that are near their use by date that they produced when the bird flu was thought up to sell more medication.

peasea
16th June 2009, 15:36
Big deal. That's just the ones who have bothered to have their 'flu indentified. Live and eat healthy and it will come and go just like the usual 'flus. If you have preexisting health problems you may have something to worry about.

I'm with you NR. We eat good, healthy food in this house every day (I have chicken carcasses on the boil right now, chicken soup for starters tonight) and we notice a definite change in our whole well-being when our vege' intake drops for whatever reason. (On the road, partying, whatever) I got cook a couple of weeks ago, fever etc, stayed on the couch all day one Sunday, had a few bourbons, stayed a bit too warm, had lotsa soup etc and was back at work on the Monday. (I don't have to interact with other people so there was little chance of passing it on...)

I think there is an element within society that will contract whatever is going around because of their poor diet. There is also an element who contract viruses because their immune system might be faulty through no fault of their own. Then there's the rest of us who can usually fight things off or, at worst, go through a course of basic anti-biotics. (Although I must say I'm not a big fan of them either...)

Drug companies are like oil companies; tell the public they have a problem but we can fix it with YOUR money. Remember the 70's oil crisis? How many billion barrels of oil have been pumped since they told us it was all going to dry up if the price didn't double? Lookout! Someone sneezed, here's an expensive drug to fix you all up!

And the mass media sings it up like it's the naked truth. What a faaarkin' crock.

KiwiKat
16th June 2009, 16:27
Unless you have air conditioning?

Fan forced ventilation rocks. The best way to spread it yet. :Punk:

# You may have already had it and didn't know it.
# You may have it and not have any symptoms. (but still sharing it)
# If everyone around you is breathing there's a good chance you'll catch it.
# If they're not you're really in the shit. :doh:

Time to party up or sit back, have a drink or six, and watch some vids. (Probably more chance of death riding a motorbike.)

Oakie
16th June 2009, 18:01
Trust me guys. You do not want this. It is not trivial and it is only 'mild' compared to the killer flus (flues?, floos? flews?) of days gone by although from the sounds of it some do get off lightly ... just about as bad as a normal flu. One of the guys I work with has contracted it and says it is the sickest he has ever felt. Didn't get the Tamiflu in time.

munterk6
16th June 2009, 18:55
I'll take it seriously when it kills 100 people.
we have already had the little boy crying wolf before on several issues, its easy to think this is just another one.
WHEN DEAD BODIES START MOUNTING UP...TOO LATE!
Waddaya do? keep away from kids for a start, they are the breeding grounds for this virus.
Bring it on. :eek::chase:

The Stranger
16th June 2009, 19:12
Obviuosly a generalised comment DB. H1N1 has been fatal for some people. In saying that, so has standard influenza as had H5N1 (bird flu)

GSXR can be deadly too, but that don't put people off.

u4ea
16th June 2009, 19:29
Big deal. That's just the ones who have bothered to have their 'flu indentified. Live and eat healthy and it will come and go just like the usual 'flus. If you have preexisting health problems you may have something to worry about.
GULPS


Any flu in my household at the moment could require my son to be hospitalised. So I will avoid it like the plague that it is (LOL).
Hope he will be ok Deanno.Im in the same boat there. Had a nip selling from those Home sell trucks door knock today....Seems even a JW could be deadly with this..


Some people can die with a broken leg, but it wasn't the broken leg that killed them. Its just a Flu virus, but if you live in a cardboard box with rats and other infestations then, chances are, that if you contract this lastest virus it will effectly kill you because you body has lost all its will power to fight anymore.
Yerp broken ankle and my blood went CLOT to the lungs and heart. Now my lungs and immunity are weak ...

I like the idea of a party ..just not celebrating someones life after they've died of complications of the latest flu...

Brett
16th June 2009, 20:03
Stuff that, being married to a medical professional from Middlemore Hostpital Iam at risk enough of catching this bloody H1N1, I don't wanna catch it sooner than I have to.

Naki Rat
17th June 2009, 21:24
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Keep an eye out for Quasi !