People that txt while driving should be shot!

[Adulf]

The law can't come in quick enough for me, that makes it illegal for you to txt or use a mobile while driving. Seeing drivers txting on the motorway has always given me the sh*#s but no more then when I got Liberaced on my two week old (400km only) bike on Friday night!

I was stopped in a cue of traffic due to another an accident up ahead. I must have been stopped for nearly 20 second on a clear bit of road with clear viability, when woman smacked straight in the back of me, sending me and the bike flying. She jumped out of her car with her phone in hand mid txt and with bear feet! Yes, the bike is insured and yes, I'm alive all be it sprained bruised and battered.

But what piss's me off is that amount of hassle, visits to the Physio waiting for the insurance to get sorted and all the extra travel costs I'm now going to in cure because of this stupid C@#, and you know dam well she will not have learn t anything from the experience!

Sorry just wanted to have a winge! :angry2:

[p.dath]

I agree. Making phone calls and TXTing has to go. It's just too dangerous. There is so much evidence and research saying it is dangerous.

So why is it taking so long? Obviously not enough people have died from it as a result yet.

[balans]

The law can't come in quick enough for me, that makes it illegal for you to txt or use a mobile while driving. Seeing drivers txting on the motorway has always given me the sh*#s but no more then when I got Liberaced on my two week old (400km only) bike on Friday night!

I was stopped in a cue of traffic due to another an accident up ahead. I must have been stopped for nearly 20 second on a clear bit of road with clear viability, when woman smacked straight in the back of me, sending me and the bike flying. She jumped out of her car with her phone in hand mid txt and with bear feet! Yes, the bike is insured and yes, I'm alive all be it sprained bruised and battered.

But what piss's me off is that amount of hassle, visits to the Physio waiting for the insurance to get sorted and all the extra travel costs I'm now going to in cure because of this stupid C@#, and you know dam well she will not have learn t anything from the experience!

Sorry just wanted to have a winge! :angry2:

It sounds like there is absolutely no acceptable reason for her to have hit you like that. Lifetime suspension of licence seems like a suitable thing in these situations. If she has managed to fuck up the basics so badly as hitting as stationery vehicle in a line of traffic she is clearly not fit to drive.

Driving is a complex and dangerous thing that comes with a very big responsibility, perhaps it is not for everyone. Just like fighter jet training isn't for everyone. Only people able to prove their aptitude should be given and able to keep a licence.

[Ragingrob]

I text while driving, never had a problem with it. It's the usual one rule for all when maybe the individuals who fuck up should just be slapped a bit harder.

[Hitcher]

Repost of Doom!

[gwigs]

Yes ban txting and doing your make up whilst driving....
have seen make up being applied at 120k on the motorway...not a good look.:gob:

[vifferman]

have seen make up being applied at 120k on the motorway...not a good look.
So... they're using lipstick for lane markings now? Mascara for signposts?
Glittery eyeshadow for warning markers? :confused:

[MattRSK]

sorry i was changing cds, now what are we talking about.

[Zuki lover]

The law can't come in quick enough for me, that makes it illegal for you to txt or use a mobile while driving. Seeing drivers txting on the motorway has always given me the sh*#s but no more then when I got Liberaced on my two week old (400km only) bike on Friday night!

I was stopped in a cue of traffic due to another an accident up ahead. I must have been stopped for nearly 20 second on a clear bit of road with clear viability, when woman smacked straight in the back of me, sending me and the bike flying. She jumped out of her car with her phone in hand mid txt and with bear feet! Yes, the bike is insured and yes, I'm alive all be it sprained bruised and battered.

But what piss's me off is that amount of hassle, visits to the Physio waiting for the insurance to get sorted and all the extra travel costs I'm now going to in cure because of this stupid C@#, and you know dam well she will not have learn t anything from the experience!

Sorry just wanted to have a winge! :angry2:

Lucky you were ok

[idb]

Not another bloody law!!!
Just make it illegal to drive like a f&*^wit.
Texting or applying makeup at 120km/h or in traffic, travelling at 70km/h on the open road in heavy fog, opening a tin of baked beans on the motorway...all clearly the actions of a tosser in the opinion of a suitably warranted officer of the law.
You're nicked, fined and lose your licence or car for a few days/weeks as appropriate.

[idb]

Sorry about your prang by the way.

[Duke girl]

Its not only txting and being on the phone whilst driving that should be banned its also eating, drinking, putting make-up on, shaving, doing your hair and changing CD's which are all a destraction while driving.
The roads are busy enough without having those in control of a vehicle distracted by objects that can cause accidents.

[Finn]

There are far worse things kiwi's do on the roads than txt while driving. Going slow or blocking the right lane is far more dangerous.

[idb]

Its not only txting and being on the phone whilst driving that should be banned its also eating, drinking, putting make-up on, shaving, doing your hair and changing CD's which are all a destraction while driving.
The roads are busy enough without having those in control of a vehicle distracted by objects that can cause accidents.

So...should we legislate individually for each of these?
"You have been stopped as you were observed to be in contravention of section 19, clause 57, article 563Y of the Traffic Regulations, namely that you were in control of a vehicle whilst unwrapping a pastry-encased food item - a pie. This was clearly in prelude to contravening article 563Z - being in control of a vehicle whilst eating a pastry-encased food item..."

[PirateJafa]

So...should we legislate individually for each of these?
"You have been stopped as you were observed to be in contravention of section 19, clause 57, article 563Y of the Traffic Regulations, namely that you were in control of a vehicle whilst unwrapping a pastry-encased food item - a pie. This was clearly in prelude to contravening article 563Z - being in control of a vehicle whilst eating a pastry-encased food item..."

Careless driving.
Dangerous driving.
Reckless driving.

They just need to be enforced.

[p.dath]

There are far worse things kiwi's do on the roads than txt while driving. Going slow or blocking the right lane is far more dangerous.

The difference being that many studies have been done and found our brains can not manage the task of communicating while drive. Hence the reason why TXTing and talking on a mobil phone is more dangerous than eating, putting on make up, etc.

[peasea]

I agree. Making phone calls and TXTing has to go. It's just too dangerous. There is so much evidence and research saying it is dangerous.

So why is it taking so long? Obviously not enough people have died from it as a result yet.


It's coz the politicians all do it themselves.

[peasea]

There are far worse things kiwi's do on the roads than txt while driving. Going slow or blocking the right lane is far more dangerous.

There's a plethora of faults with kiwi drivers/riders. Of course nobody on kb is guilty of any wrongdoing, myself included.

[Finn]

The difference being that many studies have been done and found our brains can not manage the task of communicating while drive.

If you're talking about kiwi brains, then I would agree. Most kiwi's find it difficult to chew gum and walk at the same time.

[MattRSK]

Education is the only option I think. It would be impossible to enforce a law banning cellphone usage etc. You would have police concentrating on what people are doing inside their cars instead of concentrating on the road.

[Hitcher]

Education is the only option I think. It would be impossible to enforce a law banning cellphone usage etc. You would have police concentrating on what people are doing inside their cars instead of concentrating on the road.

A solution is to have a police officer inside every car. That would fix it.

[BiK3RChiK]

I'd have ripped the bloody phone out of her hands and smashed the effin thing on the road then stomped on it with my biker boots! She'd get the message then! Stupid flamin cow! I hope it's her insurance paying out and not yours!! Having said this, it's a good lesson to leave an 'out' and watch in your mirrors... ready to make a break if that very event looks remotely likely.

[Robbo]

Yep! Texting while driving is a lot worse than talking while driving because your eyes and concentration are on the screen/keypad of the phone instead of where they should be. Was almost taken out by a dumb-arsed bitch who was doing excactly that a couple of years ago so burn the lot of them.:2guns:

[Ragingrob]

Cheers for the red rep dangerousbastard, just cause I said I text while driving. Now lemme see, I don't need to look at the screen or the keypad while texting, I can put the phone down at any time if I need to for some reason, I send a text after checking ahead as far as possible and it's clear, my eyes are on the road pretty much the whole time during the text.

Now you tell me how this is so much worse than changing a CD? Which would require eyes to be completely off the road, not to mention leaning over etc.

Or any worse than reading a billboard?

All I was saying that I do text while driving if I need to, and I believe that I am able to do it without any repercussions as I choose my time, place and method.

[PirateJafa]

Cheers for the red rep dangerousbastard, just cause I said I text while driving. Now lemme see, I don't need to look at the screen or the keypad while texting, I can put the phone down at any time if I need to for some reason, I send a text after checking ahead as far as possible and it's clear, my eyes are on the road pretty much the whole time during the text.

Now you tell me how this is so much worse than changing a CD? Which would require eyes to be completely off the road, not to mention leaning over etc.

Or any worse than reading a billboard?

All I was saying that I do text while driving if I need to, and I believe that I am able to do it without any repercussions as I choose my time, place and method.
Clearly you ought to be fitting illegal HIDs to your bike/car and blinding all other roadusers with your highbeams 24/7 instead Rob.

Far safer, evidently. :rofl:

[CookMySock]

Cheers for the red rep dangerousbastard, just cause I said I text while driving. Now lemme see, I don't need to look at the screen or the keypad while texting, I can put the phone down at any time if I need to for some reason, I send a text after checking ahead as far as possible and it's clear, my eyes are on the road pretty much the whole time during the text.It's people like you who always know better and always have some rational explanation who get other road users killed. At least dont admit it in public, or cry about the rep... at the very least.

Steve

[Squiggles]

Clearly you ought to be fitting illegal HIDs to your bike/car and blinding all other roadusers with your highbeams 24/7 instead Rob.

Far safer, evidently. :rofl:

I fully agree, get that link for the kit i sent you?

[Ragingrob]

It's people like you who always know better and always have some rational explanation who get other road users killed. At least dont admit it in public, or cry about the rep... at the very least.

Steve

Lol don't admit it? Well apparently you're the one here who think he knows best by saying I'm a danger :stupid:

If they ban cellphones are they gonna ban lipstick? CDs? Ipods? Handheld pcs?

I agree with the people who've said the individuals who are a danger should be slapped harder, not the individuals who can actually cope with texting and driving.

At least 5 crashes in Karaka have been from people simply changing CDs, one was fatal, when are they gonna ban CDs?

BTW, you've crashed your bike haven't ya? You danger to society you!

[paturoa]

About bloody time too!

While they are at it, they should also change the law so the following are illegal too:

Tail gating
Lane changes with no indicators
Under taking
Failure to give way
Running red lights
Smidsy
The mormon Few
Boi racing
Putting on makeup while driving
Shall I go on?

It wont make a blind bit of difference making it "illegal".

[Mom]

About bloody time too!

Shall I go on?

Yes do it :jerry:

My pet hate to add to your list;

Arseholes that cross the centre line, take the racing line through corners, or simply are unable to take a corner on the correct side of the road :2guns:

Hang on a minute though, there are a few bikers that do that too :dodge:

As you were :laugh:

[YellowDog]

Is smoking whilst driving any safer?

[-easy--rider-]

its the same as people driving tired or drunk or whatever. people know what the right thing to do is but the just cant be fucked. ie pull over and txt, stay where you are when youve had a few. i do it all the time while riding

[Ragingrob]

Is smoking whilst driving any safer?

Just like eating a hot pie, if it falls on your lap... :doh:

So many things that cause crashes and they are targeting one form. People should be fined for dangerous/careless driving if they are driving in that manner.

Dunno how they'll pick up on the people texting anyway, I usually hold the phone down by my lap.

How about those GPS systems? People program them while driving and fiddle around with it, meaning eyes completely off the road... Dodgy!

[sosman]

Try wot i do!....Next time yr side by side with the Nimwit txtin etc....Wait till they look down at there phone THEN jump on the horn..& wotch em panic!..
Makes me laugh every time:done:

[sosman]

You can tell the one that r Txting,there speed goes up & down slowly... & they swerve side to side with in there lane,they think there life is missing out on something if they don't reply instantly to a message :2guns:

[Mikkel]

Handsfree talking on the phone is not a problem (and just talking on a normal cellphone when driving an automatic is the same) - texting on the other hand is asking for trouble.

The problem with texting is that you are diverting the most important sense - sight - from where it should be when you are driving: on the road ahead and your mirrors. Since you can never prevent people from daydreaming and thinking about random stuff when driving anyway, banning talking on the phone makes no sense.


Dunno how they'll pick up on the people texting anyway, I usually hold the phone down by my lap.

It's very easy to notice if the person behind you haven't got their eyes on the road in front of them. If they tailgate as well I like to give them a bit of a surprise by pushing the brake just enough to put on the brake lights.

If you are going to text, at least hold the phone up in front of you so your gaze is not that far diverted from where it should be... idiot (if you text at anytime when you are moving)!

[AllanB]

I'd have ripped the bloody phone out of her hands and smashed the effin thing on the road then stomped on it with my biker boots!

Ditto

I just hope you never get rear ended by a guy driving while getting a blow-job.........(I'm married but apparently these things can happen)

[TOTO]

and they say there isn't ever a reason to hit a woman...:bash:

[Squiggles]

Personally i think its a bandaid fix to ban using them... better idea would of course be to overhaul driver training (but they're never going to get around to that)

[PirateJafa]

Personally i think its a bandaid fix to ban using them... better idea would of course be to overhaul driver training (but they're never going to get around to that)
What? So I wouldn't be allowed to eat my pie and fish'n chips while driving?

Sod that.

[Mikkel]

What? So I wouldn't be allowed to eat my pie and fish'n chips while driving?

Sod that.

Yeah, I second that, the flip-front would have been a complete waste of money otherwise...

[Ragingrob]

Handsfree talking on the phone is not a problem (and just talking on a normal cellphone when driving an automatic is the same) - texting on the other hand is asking for trouble.

The problem with texting is that you are diverting the most important sense - sight - from where it should be when you are driving: on the road ahead and your mirrors. Since you can never prevent people from daydreaming and thinking about random stuff when driving anyway, banning talking on the phone makes no sense.



It's very easy to notice if the person behind you haven't got their eyes on the road in front of them. If they tailgate as well I like to give them a bit of a surprise by pushing the brake just enough to put on the brake lights.

If you are going to text, at least hold the phone up in front of you so your gaze is not that far diverted from where it should be... idiot (if you text at anytime when you are moving)!

The thing is, even my 14yr old sister can text without looking at the phone whatsoever. Depending on the person, I can choose a number, start a text, write it all out, send it, and put it back in my pocket... All without looking down whatsoever.

Mind you, as I said I choose time and place, you wont find my texting in the city or in traffic at speed. I can put the phone down at any time too.

I've seen so many people looking at their mapbook whilst driving, in my opinion this is far worse than texting, it requires far more vision attention.

[CookMySock]

The thing is, even my 14yr old sister can text without looking at the phone whatsoever. Depending on the person, I can choose a number, start a text, write it all out, send it, and put it back in my pocket... All without looking down whatsoever.

Mind you, as I said I choose time and place, you wont find my texting in the city or in traffic at speed. I can put the phone down at any time too.

I've seen so many people looking at their mapbook whilst driving, in my opinion this is far worse than texting, it requires far more vision attention.Your opinion isn't fact though, any more than mine is.

You don't need to be looking down to be distracted. It takes quite a lot of brain power to think ahead of the phones' keypad, calculating how many presses etc, and theres no way your mind is on the road at this time.

The main danger I see with you, is that you immediately justify your actions without any reflection. This makes you a dangerous person, and not just when txting, since you are always right. The only way to deal with people who think this way is to punish them.

Steve

[Ragingrob]

Your opinion isn't fact though, any more than mine is.

You don't need to be looking down to be distracted. It takes quite a lot of brain power to think ahead of the phones' keypad, calculating how many presses etc, and theres no way your mind is on the road at this time.

The main danger I see with you, is that you immediately justify your actions without any reflection. This makes you a dangerous person, and not just when txting, since you are always right. The only way to deal with people who think this way is to punish them.

Steve

Well that's just your opinion ain't it :niceone:

I immediately justify my actions? Without any reflections? I'm always right?

Stop flattering yourself mate!

[Ixion]

You don't need to be looking down to be distracted. It takes quite a lot of brain power to think ahead of the phones' keypad, calculating how many presses etc, and theres no way your mind is on the road at this time.



Well, no, not really. Eventually it becomes totally reflexive, no calculation needed. Any more than you need to calculate weight distribution and momentum vectors when walking . It's all handled at a lower level of the brain, beneath the "thinking" part.
The thing is, even my 14yr old sister can text without looking at the phone whatsoever. Depending on the person, I can choose a number, start a text, write it all out, send it, and put it back in my pocket... All without looking down whatsoever. The problem is though, what do you do when they reply? Reality is that mostly txting is like a convo, txt,receive reply,txt back etc.

[Ragingrob]

Well, no, not really. Eventually it becomes totally reflexive, no calculation needed. Any more than you need to calculate weight distribution and momentum vectors when walking . It's all handled at a lower level of the brain, beneath the "thinking" part. The problem is though, what do you do when they reply? Reality is that mostly txting is like a convo, txt,receive reply,txt back etc.

Exactly :yes:

And yep to read a text takes a lot more, depending on where you are it can just be done at the next red light, often a good place to whip a text away too. If I'm on the open road though, and desperately need to read a text, I'll hold the phone at the top on the steering wheel and on straight roads with no traffic just glance every now and then to read it.

Even changing radio stations means looking completely down for most people. Cars have far too many distractions haha!

[CookMySock]

Well, no, not really. Eventually it becomes totally reflexive, no calculation needed. Any more than you need to calculate weight distribution and momentum vectors when walking . It's all handled at a lower level of the brain, beneath the "thinking" part. The problem is though, what do you do when they reply? Reality is that mostly txting is like a convo, txt,receive reply,txt back etc.Yeah well I would go along with that. It's like hovering a helicopter - seemingly an impossible task to any newbie, not just requiring massive levels of concentration, but literally impossible, but to a seasoned professional it's second nature.

Considering how much mayhem txting causes, if it were allowed for all, then maybe they should hand out free helicopter pilots' licenses to all as well?

A commercial pilot mate of mine and his girlfriend took a C172 up and she was taking photos while he was flying. They landed, went home, and looked through their photos and realised they had one critical shot missing. She had to go to work, so he takes the camera and goes back up in the plane. Low-level and eye glued to the viewfinder he lines his shot up and gets his picture.. puts camera down and uh oh wheres the ground? Pilots will know the rest of the story, but it's a good thing that he felt no pain whatsoever. Pity about the pregnant GF with ring on her finger and his solo mum though, I bet their pain was insurmountable.

I stand by my statement. Don't txt and drive. Don't do other dangerous shit as well.

Steve

[sinfull]

Shoot me, I am at fault, i do not conform to societies needs, I breed the devils spawn, who will probably text while driving too !

[Mikkel]

The thing is, even my 14yr old sister can text without looking at the phone whatsoever. Depending on the person, I can choose a number, start a text, write it all out, send it, and put it back in my pocket... All without looking down whatsoever.

Mind you, as I said I choose time and place, you wont find my texting in the city or in traffic at speed. I can put the phone down at any time too

Still, writing - whether the motorskills associated with texting are automatic or not - is fundamentally an action that relies on your visual faculties. I can happily write stuff without looking at the keyboard or the pen - hell I can even put together a few sentences without looking at all. However, I will be visualising what I am writing and so while my visual attention is directed elsewhere I will not be able to afford it nearly as much attention as if I didn't write at the same time. (This paragraph was written without looking at neither my hands nor the screen - I then did a tidy up to remove the umpteen typos and glitches that sneaked their way into it.)


Shoot me, I am at fault, i do not conform to societies needs, I breed the devils spawn, who will probably text while driving too !

You will conform, god dammit! :)

[carver]

About bloody time too!

While they are at it, they should also change the law so the following are illegal too:

Tail gating
Lane changes with no indicators
Under taking
Failure to give way
Running red lights
Smidsy
The mormon Few
Boi racing
Putting on makeup while driving
Shall I go on?

It wont make a blind bit of difference making it "illegal".

the mormon few do all these great fun things

[PrincessBandit]

Presumably putting on makeup while driving too??? Go on, bet ya do, gorgeous.