Would you attach extra lights?

[cambridgedan]

Does anyone know if you are allowed other lights on your bike, other than the front headlight/foglight and tail lights,
and if you are would you put extra lights on?? :msn-wink:

[NighthawkNZ]

Does anyone know if you are allowed other lights on your bike, other than the front headlight/foglight and tail lights,
and if you are would you put extra lights on?? :msn-wink:

Depends on colour, and how they are wired... ie you are not allowed red forward

But you can add extra driving lights... etc... I use to have a single driving spot light mounted above the standard light on my old XJ... It had to be wired to the hi/lo switch as well as on/off switch

[Cheshire Cat]

:rofl: I've seen neons on a biek :eek5:








.........Weird.

[Squiggles]

I was trying to get a couple of these (http://www.amazon.com/PIAA-1192-Platinum-Dichroic-Driving/dp/B000182E14) to fit to the DR to get better light around the corner, but got outbid and im not willing to pay the new price. Not sure about the legality.

[dwnundabkr]

i have been playing around with some leds on my bike (work in lighting)
i currently have a flexable strip of leds under my seat they are red on one side and blue on the other.I have had them on about a year now, no probs so far,
you dont see the leds as they are hidden, but give a glow on either side if the bike

[Laxi]

:rofl: I've seen neons on a biek :eek5:








.........Weird.

yeah what would you think of this riding down the road?:tugger:
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EDIT: mind you, there'd be no "I didn't see him"

[xgnr]

You cannot have any more than one extra light on the front unless factory fitted (or some other waffle like that).

God forbid that you may be more visible to other road users.

The Stranger will be able to provide chapter and verse.

[dwnundabkr]

yeah what would you think of this riding down the road?:tugger:
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EDIT: mind you, there'd be no "I didn't see him"

faaarrrrrk thats bright nahhhhhhh bugga that, needs to be discreet not in ya face

[mossy1200]

Only two forward facing lights while on high beam or low beam at a time.

[cambridgedan]

I think that the Suzuki had the potential to look cool but failed.
I just had the idea when I was driving home over the kaimais and saw trucks with all the extra orange lights and was wondering if you could add some lights to the bike where is could look cool still and be more seen at the same
Time

[Cheshire Cat]

yeah what would you think of this riding down the road?:tugger:

EDIT: mind you, there'd be no "I didn't see him"

haha.......that is true though...EVERYONE would see you....then crash into each other :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[scracha]

haha.......that is true though...EVERYONE would see you....then crash into each other :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

So yo can't fit a rear fog light?

[Mystic13]

:rofl: I've seen neons on a biek :eek5:

.........Weird.

I'm a big fan of the neon and run blue on my bike. I rate it better than a high viz vest. I have no issues with cars at night. They all see me. I also love the neon look whether on cars or bikes.

So for $60.00 it was a good investment. And one I'd continue to make.

As for mixing red and blue as posted above that's not okay according to the LTSA rules. (or whatever they're called this month)

For neons a driving approaching from any direction mustn't be able to see the naked light.

As for spots you can buy some small good quality ones here which are the equal of the PIAA lights but a damned sight cheaper. I run two facing forward both individually switched. Both are specifically for night riding and fog.

The challenge for bikes is the lean in the corners. The high quality spots have very narrow beams.

A fog light provides good corner light.

[James Deuce]

In NZ we have a Government Department who look after the regulation to do with everything "vehicle". They have a website that tells you what you can and can't do in plain english.

Do NOT ask a bunch of idiots on a social networking site for information about regulations with a legal implication. If you (or they) get it wrong, they won't pay your fine.

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/vehicles/get-your-lights-right.html

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/rules/vehicle-lighting-2004.html

[NighthawkNZ]

In NZ we have a Government Department who look after the regulation to do with everything "vehicle". They have a website that tells you what you can and can't do in plain english.

Clear as mud... :lol:

[cambridgedan]

In NZ we have a Government Department who look after the regulation to do with everything "vehicle". They have a website that tells you what you can and can't do in plain english.

Do NOT ask a bunch of idiots on a social networking site for information about regulations with a legal implication if you (or they) get it wrong. They won't pay your fine.

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/vehicles/get-your-lights-right.html

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/rules/vehicle-lighting-2004.html



Hey thanks for that, I have been looking for that page, cheers :2thumbsup

[James Deuce]

Wanna know how I found it?

I typed www.ltsa.govt.nz (http://www.ltsa.govt.nz) in the address bar and then "extra lights" in the search field on the homepage.

James Deuce helps those who help themselves.

Now I'm talking about myself in the virtual persona third person. Gah.

[vifferman]

Wanna know how I found it?
Y'know, given the HUGE number of really basic questions asked on KiwiBiker, I'm beginning to think we need to have a computing licence issued before people can be let loose on teh Interdweeb. Like, if you can't formulate a decent search string to find a particualr topic on the 'dweeb, it's an automatic fail, and you have to get someone else to post on forums or whatever.

[CookMySock]

So yo can't fit a rear fog light?Fit a LED tail lamp. They are sooper bright.

Steve

[Indiana_Jones]

Choasrider could hook you up with some strobing LED's bro (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1865699&postcount=41)...

-Indy

[James Deuce]

Clear as mud... :lol:

It's difficult to know how it could be any clearer. People refuse to read the actual regulations citing incomprehensibility, and then people complain about bullet points being unclear.

[jim.cox]

would you put extra lights on?

I would be cautious about extra lights

Two headlights on the same horizontal plane can make a near bike look like a far away car :(

[NighthawkNZ]

It's difficult to know how it could be any clearer. People refuse to read the actual regulations citing incomprehensibility, and then people complain about bullet points being unclear.
no sense of humour none what os ever... sheese

[James Deuce]

No. This 10 character thing is really bunching my unwashed undies too.

[cambridgedan]

I would be cautious about extra lights

Two headlights on the same horizontal plane can make a near bike look like a far away car :(

that is a good point, i dont thnk ill be adding lights to the front,
i am considering some blue lights hidden under the fearing to be more visable to drivers, but ill have it on a styley switch so i can turn them off if i dont want them :woohoo:

[scumdog]

Only two forward facing lights while on high beam or low beam at a time.

A shame a few freakin' 4X$ types don't stick with that sort of idea:mad:
SIX lights on aound town at times.

Oh, on topic, normajeane (CB) and I both have two small spot/flood lights on our bikes, we use them only during daylight as running lights to increase visibility to cars on front of us.

Never had problems at WOF time or from 'the man'.:niceone:

[scumdog]

In NZ we have a Government Department who look after the regulation to do with everything "vehicle". They have a website that tells you what you can and can't do in plain english.

Except for what exactly constitues the difference between marking, driving, spot, auxiliary and side-lights.:bash:

[Dschubba]

Only two forward facing lights while on high beam or low beam at a time.

wadda bout this? not that i'm complaining!

[mossy1200]

wadda bout this? not that i'm complaining!
looks like two high and two low beam.they can all operate at same time but they cant have dual element laps if you have four total.This is they way it was explained to me at testing station.Same as fog lights can be used on car but must not be able to turned on while four front lights are in operation.

[xgnr]

(CB) and I both have two small spot/flood lights on our bikes, we use them only during daylight as running lights to increase visibility to cars on front of us.

Never had problems at WOF time or from 'the man'.:niceone:

But its not legal... shame on you

[NordieBoy]

Do NOT ask a bunch of idiots on a social networking site for information about regulations with a legal implication. If you (or they) get it wrong, they won't pay your fine.

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/vehicles/get-your-lights-right.html

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/rules/vehicle-lighting-2004.html

Read that stuff and get it wrong and LT will pay the fine?

[scumdog]

But its not legal... shame on you

No?
Well the lardy-arsed bagger H-Ds have two 'marker' lights as well as the headlights on at the same time and that's factory (I think....)

"But they're only marker lights occifer, they're OK, just look at all them Soft-Roaders(tm)with six lights on at once..."

[xgnr]

No?
Well the lardy-arsed bagger H-Ds have two 'marker' lights as well as the headlights on at the same time and that's factory (I think....)

"But they're only marker lights occifer, they're OK, just look at all them Soft-Roaders(tm)with six lights on at once..."

Cos it's factory its allowed... go figure... that particular regulation is an arse and widely ignored by WOF issuers, specially those that ride bikes. :niceone:

[Dschubba]

Yep, you might be right. Im off to have a look

[peasea]

Extra lights on bikes?
Is it Christmas already?

[Wasp27]

Oh, on topic, normajeane (CB) and I both have two small spot/flood lights on our bikes, we use them only during daylight as running lights to increase visibility to cars on front of us.:niceone:

Hi S/D, what brand /type of light did you use.......any chance of a pic...please. cheers W

[BMWST?]

looks like two high and two low beam.they can all operate at same time but they cant have dual element laps if you have four total.This is they way it was explained to me at testing station.Same as fog lights can be used on car but must not be able to turned on while four front lights are in operation.

in my car the foglights can be turned on any time the parking lights are on....so i can turn them on when the headlights are on high....never had a problem with the vtnz.i dont use them on high tho

[scumdog]

Hi S/D, what brand /type of light did you use.......any chance of a pic...please. cheers W

I'll get out to the garage tomorrow and have a look and get back to you.

[xgnr]

I am traumatised by the lack of concern about the legality of these extra lights... you guys better get a good lawyer

[scumdog]

I am traumatised by the lack of concern about the legality of these extra lights... you guys better get a good lawyer

When I have cause to need one I'll get one.<_<

Your trauna is caused by your paranoia grasshopper...

[xgnr]

When I have cause to need one I'll get one.<_<

Your trauna is caused by your paranoia grasshopper...

just having a wee piss take... stand down

[bogan]

after a breif skim (tldr) of those regulation thingys on the website (chur for links James Duece) the position lamps seem to be a good option for extra lighting. But i must wonder, if someone cant see the main headlight in its 60 odd watts of glory (i guestimate this number) will any legal amount of lighting help.

A novel solution to this high vis reflective paint like on ambulances and whatnot, when applied properly it doesnt look half bad. Not sure what colours are available, not sure what the legal status is, but ltsa search for reflective paint didnt turn up much so is probly sweet as.

[NordieBoy]

after a breif skim (tldr) of those regulation thingys on the website (chur for links James Duece) the position lamps seem to be a good option for extra lighting. But i must wonder, if someone cant see the main headlight in its 60 odd watts of glory (i guestimate this number) will any legal amount of lighting help.

I prefer the asymmetrical 1 up 1 down type lights.
It's something that catches the eye of the driver as it's not something they'd normally see and you can get away with a 35w bulb as it's not used to see but be seen.

[scumdog]

after a breif skim (tldr) of those regulation thingys on the website (chur for links James Duece) the position lamps seem to be a good option for extra lighting. But i must wonder, if someone cant see the main headlight in its 60 odd watts of glory (i guestimate this number) will any legal amount of lighting help.

The thing is; with a headlamp the light is concentrated in a relatively narrow beam, as such a car approaching from a side-road may not notice it until fairly close to pulling out on front of you.

The marker lights I have are claimed to have a dispersion angle of 37 degrees so the light up (glare?) well to each side and are more noticed by drivers leaving drive-ways, side-roads etc

They also seem to make me more noticed by the driver of any car I catch up with as they move to the left within a few seconds, prior to that they seemed to just dwaddle out nearer the centre-line.

These marker lights are hopeless at night - just a mass of glare and not much distance, the reverse of headlights.

My 2-cents worth on their value.

[Wasp27]

I'll get out to the garage tomorrow and have a look and get back to you.

Sweet as...thanks
cheers W

[frogamic]

I have extra lights for "visibility" I think they work well cause people always look at them, get a few comments from fellow bikers too.

[xgnr]

In NZ we have a Government Department who look after the regulation to do with everything "vehicle". They have a website that tells you what you can and can't do in plain english.

Do NOT ask a bunch of idiots on a social networking site for information about regulations with a legal implication. If you (or they) get it wrong, they won't pay your fine.

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/vehicles/get-your-lights-right.html

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/rules/vehicle-lighting-2004.html

yep the very same people who make the rules also insist on using cheesecutters as "safety barriers". who are the idiots?

[scumdog]

yep the very same people who make the rules also insist on using cheesecutters as "safety barriers". who are the idiots?

So how many died as a result of hitting 'cheese-cutters'?

And how many head-ons have been prevented by them??:wait: