Oxford Hotgrips fitting

[bastardsquad]

Quick question, sourced the grips recently:cold: (93 bucks cheers cycletreads!), fitting instructions seem straightforward...but: im not inclined to use the superglue to stick 'em on. Ive done some online reading and talked to one person but im not getting a consistent answer. Whats the best/what glue did you use? Im thinking 5 min epoxy as its good stuff and should allow me some time to fluff about getting them on and positioned correctly....

[Hitcher]

Choose a glue that sets. There is nothing more irritating than heated grips that slowly and incrementally work their way around the bar -- especially when the cord goes tight and one wonders why the normal rush of acceleration one has grown used to is no more.

[miSTa]

The supplied superglue worked for me, two years still good. Just make sure everything fits and know where the correct grip position is before gluing.

[CookMySock]

I have tried the superglue, and F2. Both of them weren't so good. Keen to hear how you get on.

Steve

[slofox]

I only glued the throttle side (with the supplied glue). The left was as tight as a nun's ....errr I mean....coughcough..ahhh it was so friggin tight I could barely get the grip on anyway. If it loosens up over time I will glue it then.
Incidentally, Boyds here use the supplied glue when they fit them...

[nallac]

I used the supplied supa glue takes a while to set,the instructions
recommend 24hours, i left mine for a 20 mins maybe.
Seem ok, only been on a couple of weeks tho.

Had probs with power supply for them,I had tapped in to main ingition wire
and was wondering why they cut out intermitently,finally figured out they like
more than 12volts to stay on.None of the wires put out more than 12volts.
So have gone back to battery conections.
Also tape up the connectors as they have worked lose a couple of times,
meaning cold hands
Not the greatest conectors.

Its good cycletreads have 3 different prices for there grips,
$93 on website,$99 on trademe,$120 in shop.

I take it you mentioned there web prices?.

[Squiggles]

Grip glue?

[slofox]

Had probs with power supply for them,I had tapped in to main ingition wire
and was wondering why they cut out intermitently,finally figured out they like
more than 12volts to stay on.None of the wires put out more than 12volts.
So have gone back to battery conections.
Also tape up the connectors as they have worked lose a couple of times,
meaning cold hands
Not the greatest conectors.



Try THIS (http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/generic/relay.php) idea...



worked for me...

[Taz]

I used lock wire on mine and no glue. Works great.

[vifferman]

I used no glue on the left one, and only a smidgeoning of the supplied superglue on the throttle side, just on the inside end.
Of course, they came loose when I was doing a MASSIVE wheelie at 158 km/h (indicated), and I crashed and died, the bike cartwheeled 27 times before landing on my head, killing me instantly, then exploded into flames, burning me to death. :rolleyes:

Man, I HATE it when that happens! :mad:
Next time I'm using ALL the glue, as well as F2, PVA, Araldite and JB Weld. Then I'm going to wrap 20m of lockwire around each grip, and tighten it up with some fencing strainers. Over the top I'm going to add some stainless-steel hose clamps - 6 on each side. Then I'm going to drill 5 holes through each grip, and put some bolts with nyloc heads and spring washers, done up with red Loctite to 20,000 foot-pound-kg-hp- shekeldollar-fursealwhalepenguins.
Just to make sure. :Punk:

[bungbung]

I used lock wire on mine and no glue. Works great.

+1 for lock wire, no glue. They have wire grooves.

[slofox]

I used no glue on the left one, and only a smidgeoning of the supplied superglue on the throttle side, just on the inside end.
Of course, they came loose when I was doing a MASSIVE wheelie at 158 km/h (indicated), and I crashed and died, the bike cartwheeled 27 times before landing on my head, killing me instantly, then exploded into flam,es, burning me to death. :rolleyes:

Man, I HATE it when that happens! :mad:
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Can ya do it again pleeeease Mr vifferman? I didn't see it the first time...:no:

[Pussy]

I used no glue on the left one, and only a smidgeoning of the supplied superglue on the throttle side, just on the inside end.
Of course, they came loose when I was doing a MASSIVE wheelie at 158 km/h (indicated), and I crashed and died, the bike cartwheeled 27 times before landing on my head, killing me instantly, then exploded into flames, burning me to death. :rolleyes:

Man, I HATE it when that happens! :mad:
Next time I'm using ALL the glue, as well as F2, PVA, Araldite and JB Weld. Then I'm going to wrap 20m of lockwire around each grip, and tighten it up with some fencing strainers. Over the top I'm going to add some stainless-steel hose clamps - 6 on each side. Then I'm going to drill 5 holes through each grip, and put some bolts with nyloc heads and spring washers, done up with red Loctite to 20,000 foot-pound-kg-hp- shekeldollar-fursealwhalepenguins.
Just to make sure. :Punk:

You need to fit them more securely than that....

[Quasi]

I used no glue on the left one, and only a smidgeoning of the supplied superglue on the throttle side, just on the inside end.
Of course, they came loose when I was doing a MASSIVE wheelie at 158 km/h (indicated), and I crashed and died, the bike cartwheeled 27 times before landing on my head, killing me instantly, then exploded into flames, burning me to death. :rolleyes:

Man, I HATE it when that happens! :mad:
Next time I'm using ALL the glue, as well as F2, PVA, Araldite and JB Weld. Then I'm going to wrap 20m of lockwire around each grip, and tighten it up with some fencing strainers. Over the top I'm going to add some stainless-steel hose clamps - 6 on each side. Then I'm going to drill 5 holes through each grip, and put some bolts with nyloc heads and spring washers, done up with red Loctite to 20,000 foot-pound-kg-hp- shekeldollar-fursealwhalepenguins.
Just to make sure. :Punk:

Photos please, else it didnt happen!

[bastardsquad]

The price from 'treads was the web one, as mentioned in threads here previously, so I printed it out took it in and nabbed them , RRP was $110 BTW.Small bikkies for toasty digits i reckon. Seems ppl prefer the superglue...but I have visions of it going horribly wrong if the fit is tight/awkward, its not very forgiving stuff! What is this lock wire stuff, is it like a wire hose clamp?Cheers for the relay link Slofox, thats a well written how to...muppet proof and with pics :done:

[davebullet]

I fitted a pair to the VTR250 yesterday. i used the supplied super glue. Just make sure you do the following:

1. Dry fit them. It's not a problem with how tight they fit - but how quickly you can force / twist them on. Get them on within 10 seconds and you should be ok. I think the supplied superglue has a little slip in it - not like the off the shelf stuff which sticks like shit to a blanket.
2. Scrape off any shit on the throttle sleeve. I didn't bother with the clutch side as I didn't want to scrape the handlebar chrome = rust.
3. Use slowfox's link to the www.canyonchasers.com site and wire them up via a relay. MEans you can never forget to turn them off when you leave your bike (= flat battery.)
4. You can get a cheap automotive relay from DSE (abuot $7) - but you need to pay $6 postage (not in stock at stores). Still cheaper than supercrap / ripco (cheapest I found was about $15). I bought the DSE ones since I have two sets of grips to fit.
5. Use your rear number plate light to trip the relay. In the VTR250 case - the rear number plate light = the tail light.

[obstacle]

so on all my bikes i've used hairspray. it works as a great lubricant to slip the grips on and sets like concrete once it dires (about 5 minutes). I'd imagine the heated grips would help it set a whole lot quicker :)

[Owl]

I've got all the gear, but I haven't got around to installing them yet. I had to make my own bracket, as the one supplied was useless.:yes:

[Voltaire]

I did mine a few weeks ago, was out on the bike and noticed the clutch felt a bit strange, but then came right.
Problem was I only glued the throttle on as the clutch grip was very tight....that is until it heats up and loosens off and the cable guide catches on the clutch lever.
solution: use the glue.:blink:

heres the post I did.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=100344

[nallac]

I had to make my own bracket, as the one supplied was useless.:yes:

Me too,the supplied one only bends a few times before snapping..

[Owl]

Me too,the supplied one only bends a few times before snapping..

Mine didn't break, it just won't fit. Had to offset it to clear my mirror mount.:yes:

[Sidewinder]

Quick question, sourced the grips recently:cold: (93 bucks cheers cycletreads!), fitting instructions seem straightforward...but: im not inclined to use the superglue to stick 'em on. Ive done some online reading and talked to one person but im not getting a consistent answer. Whats the best/what glue did you use? Im thinking 5 min epoxy as its good stuff and should allow me some time to fluff about getting them on and positioned correctly....

just get grip glue, thats what its for!

[SPman]

Mine didn't break, it just won't fit. Had to offset it to clear my mirror mount.:yes:Easy to bend to fit......

[Hitcher]

Looks like I'll have to take a multimeter to mine. The RH one has stopped working. What can one do with only one hot hand?

[nallac]

Easy to bend to fit......

Not the bracket as they only bend a couple of times before snapping,as i found out..

[nallac]

Looks like I'll have to take a multimeter to mine. The RH one has stopped working. What can one do with only one hot hand?


I take it you have checked that the crappy plugs are still plugged in.
Mine looked like they were ,but weren't quite. (only talking 1mm or so out)
So I tapped em up haven't had any problems since.

[Owl]

Easy to bend to fit......

I'll guess your occupation:pinch:

Butcher?:yes:

[mops]

I have recently installed these on mrs bike.

Mine didnt come with any glue ? I dont like using glue because one day i'd like to remove them without destroying other things...

Left was reasonably tight, to get the right one tight i wrapped the handle with 1 layer of electrical insulating tape. it appears that the grip itself is of tappered - larger diameter on the inside end than outside end, which works ok with insulating tape. Just get it nice and tight on there :)

They will not fell off as such because bar ends will physically stop them from doing so. Worst that can happen is they can 'twist in place', but I made mrs aware that might happen and to check for that and heard no bad comments.

I wired it into main headlamp wire, as it is the thickest wire in the gpx250 electrical system. I also replaced light fuse with 15A (instead of 10A) - also heater is separately fused with 5A.

Mrs is very happy now she wants outside hand warmers. I'm working on the design.... :)

[davebullet]

I'll also add...
1. make sure you cover your tank / fairings / front guard with a towel or dropcloth or something. When you slide the grips on, some glue may drip out
2. Don't overglue near the control end (ie. inside) of the throttle side grip - otherwise your glue may make it into the throttle sleeve....

[vifferman]

Looks like I'll have to take a multimeter to mine. The RH one has stopped working. What can one do with only one hot hand?
You're lucky. My right-hand grip had a fault, which meant neither grip worked.

[CookMySock]

I have recently installed these on mrs bike. [...] to get the right one tight i wrapped the handle with 1 layer of electrical insulating tape. [...] Worst that can happen is they can 'twist in place', but I made mrs aware that might happen and to check for that and heard no bad comments. I think you are asking for trouble there. Maybe if it was your bike you could get your head around it, and maybe your mrs is pretty quick thinking, but no way would I do what you have done on a girls bike. You will be sorry if it causes an accident. Shit like that would keep me awake at night.

Steve

[slofox]

I'll also add...
1. make sure you cover your tank / fairings / front guard with a towel or dropcloth or something. When you slide the grips on, some glue may drip out


NOW ya tell me...( http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=102480)

[davebullet]

NOW ya tell me...( http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=102480)

Yeah.... hindsight is little help eh? I always make a mess with jobs involving paint or glue so I've learned to cover everything. I also take 10 times longer because (thinking a few steps ahead) with most jobs as there is often no going back if you rush in and stuff it up. I've learned the hard way in the past......

[davebullet]

I think you are asking for trouble there. Maybe if it was your bike you could get your head around it, and maybe your mrs is pretty quick thinking, but no way would I do what you have done on a girls bike. You will be sorry if it causes an accident. Shit like that would keep me awake at night.

Steve

Agreed. You don't want a stuck / open throttle situation. Glue them so they cannot slip. Using tape on the throttle grip is a timebomb I'm afraid.

[mctshirt]

Agreed. You don't want a stuck / open throttle situation. Glue them so they cannot slip. Using tape on the throttle grip is a timebomb I'm afraid.

The spring assembly pulls the throttle back to off whether the grip sticks or not (hence no flooding when starting). Worst case scenario is no or little throttle when you want some. Generally not enough of an issue to stop you getting home and I can't see how a slipping grip can cause the throttle on unless the bike is mechanically unsound to start with?

[CookMySock]

The spring assembly pulls the throttle back to off whether the grip sticks or not (hence no flooding when starting). Worst case scenario is no or little throttle when you want some. Generally not enough of an issue to stop you getting home and I can't see how a slipping grip can cause the throttle on unless the bike is mechanically unsound to start with?It's your home, your family, and your call bro.

What the fuck anyway - reality check time.. it's not like they are a $1200 exhaust system.. a pair of gloves is cheaper than a pair of grips.

Steve

[davebullet]

The spring assembly pulls the throttle back to off whether the grip sticks or not (hence no flooding when starting). Worst case scenario is no or little throttle when you want some. Generally not enough of an issue to stop you getting home and I can't see how a slipping grip can cause the throttle on unless the bike is mechanically unsound to start with?

You are assuming the grip doesn't twist around sufficiently, that the bit that sticks out with the cable doesn't catch on the brake lever, therefore not allowing the throttle to close when released. That's what happened to one of my bikes when I did a test fit.

Just dry fit the grips 3 times each (to loosen them up enough to slide them on quick enough) so when you apply the glue you can get them on before it sets. Problem solved.