Two-stroke quad or trike wanted

[honda_power]

Well, sold one of my crfs, and after a project - looking at a old 2 stroke motocross quad or trike... TRX250r, Tecate 4, LT250r, LT500r Quadzilla, ATC250r, Tri-Z 250 or Tecate 3.

Pref. something rough, I want to restore.

They are pretty hard to get, but worth a try, one of you guys might know someone... etc etc.

Cheers

[JohnM575]

Here's one LT250 you may have seen...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Quads-ATVs/auction-224968487.htm

Are you planning on keeping the bike all original in restoration or giving it a few aftermarket MX goodies like a wider axle , a-arms etc?

There was a shabby looking TRX250R on TM a couple of weeks ago , had PEPS shocks and Paul Turner Racing motor plus the other usual MX bits, would of made the ideal 250R ground up rebuild!

[honda_power]

Here's one LT250 you may have seen...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Quads-ATVs/auction-224968487.htm

Are you planning on keeping the bike all original in restoration or giving it a few aftermarket MX goodies like a wider axle , a-arms etc?

There was a shabby looking TRX250R on TM a couple of weeks ago , had PEPS shocks and Paul Turner Racing motor plus the other usual MX bits, would of made the ideal 250R ground up rebuild!

i saw that LT... looks allright... but theres not to much to do on it lol... after a project... might see how much he wants for it. LT would be last on my wanted list though.

I saw that trx as well... 4500 was too steep I felt.

I have no idea... not that "down" on quads. I do know that I will be taking it to the occasional mx track. And jumping it.

[flyingcr250]

i saw that LT... looks allright... but theres not to much to do on it lol... after a project... might see how much he wants for it. LT would be last on my wanted list though.

I saw that trx as well... 4500 was too steep I felt.

I have no idea... not that "down" on quads. I do know that I will be taking it to the occasional mx track. And jumping it.

get a banshee!!! twin cylinder 350 2stroke :2guns::drool:

[honda_power]

nah, aparantly the handling and suspension sucks without heavy modification... they are also way heavier than the others, and a piped trx or tecate-4 will run with a banshee anywhere but dunes. Been looking on the net, the amount people have spent hopping up their banshee's is stupid

The ultimate would be a LT500r Quadzilla... That would haul ass. Problem is there are very few in the world, let alone NZ

[JohnM575]

Well if you are planning on taking it to a mx track and jumping I would definitely recommend the usuals of good aftermarket suspension e.g elka , fox , PEP and the standard MX 50" wide front and rear.Before commiting youself I would have a look around at the prices for these bits for the bike(s) you are after as most of these parts don't come cheap.

Here is a example of what lengths people go to in rebuilds of the old 250 2T's:love:

http://www.atvriders.com/qotm/quad-of-the-month-2009-04-red-black-250r-qotm-atv.html

The Banshee would be the obvious next choice if you can't get hold of the other smaller 2T's you are after.I've been riding a 4T for a good 3-4 years now and still hands down would rather have a old MX 250R.Despite the technology being old , something about those high revving 250R's and their nimbleness really appeals to me compared to the new yfz's , trx's etc.

[honda_power]

Well if you are planning on taking it to a mx track and jumping I would definitely recommend the usuals of good aftermarket suspension e.g elka , fox , PEP and the standard MX 50" wide front and rear.Before commiting youself I would have a look around at the prices for these bits for the bike(s) you are after as most of these parts don't come cheap.

Here is a example of what lengths people go to in rebuilds of the old 250 2T's:love:

http://www.atvriders.com/qotm/quad-of-the-month-2009-04-red-black-250r-qotm-atv.html

The Banshee would be the obvious next choice if you can't get hold of the other smaller 2T's you are after.I've been riding a 4T for a good 3-4 years now and still hands down would rather have a old MX 250R.Despite the technology being old , something about those high revving 250R's and their nimbleness really appeals to me compared to the new yfz's , trx's etc.

So that LT would be no good on a motocross track? I wouldnt be racing. Just playing around. Prob wouldnt be ridden hard on a regular basis.

Im not gonna fork out shitloads. All in all the most common use would be doing donuts on the front lawn lol. Other than that i guess itd just be cool to have one.

[oldguy]

Well if you are planning on taking it to a mx track and jumping I would definitely recommend the usuals of good aftermarket suspension e.g elka , fox , PEP and the standard MX 50" wide front and rear.Before commiting youself I would have a look around at the prices for these bits for the bike(s) you are after as most of these parts don't come cheap.

Here is a example of what lengths people go to in rebuilds of the old 250 2T's:love:

http://www.atvriders.com/qotm/quad-of-the-month-2009-04-red-black-250r-qotm-atv.html

The Banshee would be the obvious next choice if you can't get hold of the other smaller 2T's you are after.I've been riding a 4T for a good 3-4 years now and still hands down would rather have a old MX 250R.Despite the technology being old , something about those high revving 250R's and their nimbleness really appeals to me compared to the new yfz's , trx's etc.

Did you do the last MR Motorcycles Maize paddock series, there was a guy who had a CR500 trike, awesome don't know how it went, but sounded nice:niceone:

[JohnM575]

It really depends on how hard you want to ride it when you do take it to the track.If you were just to trail ride it , that would be fine , but once you start jumping them with stock parts , you are putting some pretty serious stress on the frame (hence why there is gusset kits for most ATV's) , and depending on your weight I would say that the old suspension wouldn't be up to the task and more probably then not bottom out when you take the bike over a jump of real significance.

Plus the width is key when on a motocross track , as if you are running stock a-arms and axle you will find yourself fighting to keep all 4 wheels on the dirt in most instances, as the extra width helps you to slide the bike at faster speeds, without the feeling of the bike wanting to buck you off.Plus the width is a bit of a safety thing so you don't flip them as easy under hard cornering or if you get a bit out of shape.

[JohnM575]

Did you do the last MR Motorcycles Maize paddock series, there was a guy who had a CR500 trike, awesome don't know how it went, but sounded nice:niceone:

Yea I did , I was parked near him , I think he was towards the back of the pack but still mixing it up with a few of them, which is a credit to him as I imagine they are a pig to handle.Sure sounded sweet though!

[honda_power]

It really depends on how hard you want to ride it when you do take it to the track.If you were just to trail ride it , that would be fine , but once you start jumping them with stock parts , you are putting some pretty serious stress on the frame (hence why there is gusset kits for most ATV's) , and depending on your weight I would say that the old suspension wouldn't be up to the task and more probably then not bottom out when you take the bike over a jump of real significance.

Plus the width is key when on a motocross track , as if you are running stock a-arms and axle you will find yourself fighting to keep all 4 wheels on the dirt in most instances, as the extra width helps you to slide the bike at faster speeds, without the feeling of the bike wanting to buck you off.Plus the width is a bit of a safety thing so you don't flip them as easy under hard cornering or if you get a bit out of shape.

ahh.. screw it... iv got a yz to jump. In that case id prob just be looking to restore to stock.

You ever ridden a LT? What do you think that one on trademe would be worth? I know the trx has the best handling and the tecate has the best motor... so where does that leave the suzi?

[JohnM575]

ahh.. screw it... iv got a yz to jump. In that case id prob just be looking to restore to stock.

You ever ridden a LT? What do you think that one on trademe would be worth? I know the trx has the best handling and the tecate has the best motor... so where does that leave the suzi?

No I haven't ridden a LT but with some of those older ATV's , they are quite small and can feel cramped if you are around the 6"0 mark like myself.Just a ballpark figure as these are pretty rare , I would say they reserve might be around the $1500 mark and would be surprised if it was anything about the $1700-1800 mark , as these are now very old bikes and only would really appeal to the niche market like yourself where someone is after a bike to have a bit of fun with and spend a bit of money getting it looking sharp again.

Since the plastics are actually quite tidy , a new set of ITP T9 Rims (around $120-$140 each) and new rubber would sharpen the bike right up.Also a bit of a bonus is the Nerf bars as they would be hard to find for that bike and are seriously beneficial as they save your foot/ankle from getting caught under the rear wheels if it goes wrong on the landing of a jump is .I wouldn't ride a ATV without them after hearing the injuries that people have had from this happening to them.

[honda_power]

No I haven't ridden a LT but with some of those older ATV's , they are quite small and can feel cramped if you are around the 6"0 mark like myself.Just a ballpark figure as these are pretty rare , I would say they reserve might be around the $1500 mark and would be surprised if it was anything about the $1700-1800 mark , as these are now very old bikes and only would really appeal to the niche market like yourself where someone is after a bike to have a bit of fun with and spend a bit of money getting it looking sharp again.

Since the plastics are actually quite tidy , a new set of ITP T9 Rims (around $120-$140 each) and new rubber would sharpen the bike right up.Also a bit of a bonus is the Nerf bars as they would be hard to find for that bike and are seriously beneficial as they save your foot/ankle from getting caught under the rear wheels if it goes wrong on the landing of a jump is .I wouldn't ride a ATV without them after hearing the injuries that people have had from this happening to them.

Whats wrong with the rims on it? If i did go for it id be stripping it right down and re-painting everything, most prob replacing bushings as they would prob be shot. Either re-painting or prob stripping the paint off the motor [i think its ugly blue]. Front shocks dont look too fancy.

Its pretty cheap... But its not exacly a looker in yellow and blue is it?

Certainly beats a trx for 4500 though

[Buddy L]

I have a friend with TRX250r that he might be wanting to sell. Just texted him after reading this thread.

Has made up gussets and other bits and bobs to make it stronger
(just text me back he wants 3500 for it but i think he's dreaming)

[honda_power]

thats a bit much for a 20 year old bike eh... out of interest though, what year is it?

[JohnM575]

Whats wrong with the rims on it? If i did go for it id be stripping it right down and re-painting everything, most prob replacing bushings as they would prob be shot. Either re-painting or prob stripping the paint off the motor [i think its ugly blue]. Front shocks dont look too fancy.

Its pretty cheap... But its not exacly a looker in yellow and blue is it?

Certainly beats a trx for 4500 though

Rims are fine , but if you were after some nice polished rims at a cheap price , thats what I run on my bike and was impressed with how they look on my bike compared to my old rims which were just a dull steel rim.Just my 2c

The yellow and blue is what they run on the new LTR 450's along with other colour variations, so I guess the colour scheme hasn't exactly dated, but is personal preference no doubt.If you did want to change plastics there is aftermarket companies in the states that will make them in different colours or Suzuki may even still have them as a OEM part and might be able to order a different colour through them.

That TRX was only that pricey just due them being so rare in NZ and having those aftermarket engine mods and suspension.People out there are willing enough to pay that much for them just because of the reputation they hold of having the best geometry setup in their generation right through into the mid 2000's.Had that been a LT250R in similar state with equivalent mods , it would only be round the $2000-$3000 mark.

[Buddy L]

he said he just over hualed the motor, new top end and new bottom end. Reckons one sold a couple of weeks ago on trademe for $3500 and so thats what he is basing this price on.

[Buddy L]

Its a 1989, he's open to offers

[honda_power]

2500 is prob all i could strech to at this stage - esp as it will be a play bike lol.

That one on trademe was seriously hopped up - would have cost a bomb.

Was hoping to find one in bits or seized or something for under 1g lol... Wanted something to do over the winter

[flyingcr250]

2500 is prob all i could strech to at this stage - esp as it will be a play bike lol.

That one on trademe was seriously hopped up - would have cost a bomb.

Was hoping to find one in bits or seized or something for under 1g lol... Wanted something to do over the winter

:Offtopic:im thinking of doing a project too, except ill be doing a car, maybe a MK1 capri, or a MK3 cortina, im doing a MK1 BDA escort at work at the moment.:Offtopic:

[honda_power]

yeah, you gotta have something to do over winter eh?!

Problem is, everyone else has the same idea.

Cars are too hard. lol

[flyingcr250]

yeah, you gotta have something to do over winter eh?!

Problem is, everyone else has the same idea.

Cars are too hard. lol

not when you do it for a job.

[honda_power]

yeah i suppose... seeing as your in the know, whats the approx cost to fab engine mounts in a hilux? got a 2.4D chassis and a 1.6P motor, the mounts are diff.

off topic in my own thread... haha

[flyingcr250]

yeah i suppose... seeing as your in the know, whats the approx cost to fab engine mounts in a hilux? got a 2.4D chassis and a 1.6P motor, the mounts are diff.

off topic in my own thread... haha

dunno man, youd have to go to an engineer as the welds have to be certified, prob $200 or something.

[flyingcr250]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzBOrBencco&feature=related

[honda_power]

res is 1350 on the LT... guy reckons it was rebuilt 4 years ago, hardly ridden since as he has other quads, just had new bushings. Everythings pretty much standard on it.

Seems like a pretty good deal... What do you think it would be worth if i painted and cleaned it up John? If I liked the extra wheels Id prob be ditching it pretty soon to get a TRX... Not a suzuki fan

Would still just be a muck-around bike though

[JohnM575]

res is 1350 on the LT... guy reckons it was rebuilt 4 years ago, hardly ridden since as he has other quads, just had new bushings. Everythings pretty much standard on it.

Seems like a pretty good deal... What do you think it would be worth if i painted and cleaned it up John? If I liked the extra wheels Id prob be ditching it pretty soon to get a TRX... Not a suzuki fan

Would still just be a muck-around bike though

If you keep it in good nick and all original you could fetch a pretty resonable price for it , since it is all original which you don't see many bikes like that for its age.I would say you could get $2000+ provided you were patient with the sale when the time comes.

[honda_power]

hmmm looks like it might go for around that as is... aparantly theres been a lot of interest and he wants auction to run.

[honda_power]

wow. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Quads-ATVs/auction-228037482.htm

[aphinity]

Well, sold one of my crfs, and after a project - looking at a old 2 stroke motocross quad or trike... TRX250r, Tecate 4, LT250r, LT500r Quadzilla, ATC250r, Tri-Z 250 or Tecate 3.

Pref. something rough, I want to restore.

They are pretty hard to get, but worth a try, one of you guys might know someone... etc etc.

Cheers
Got an 88 LT500r quadzilla sitting in the shed waiting for a restore. Hubby losing interest. Might tempt him to sell if he's offered the right $.

[honda_power]

Got an 88 LT500r quadzilla sitting in the shed waiting for a restore. Hubby losing interest. Might tempt him to sell if he's offered the right $.

how much are you looking at? Would depend on whats broken on it and how much needs to be spent. give us a yell on 0276622799 if you can - not near a computer too often anymore.

[browny]

dunno how youre getting on with your search,but got amate with afactory cr 250 trike ,early80s Its in bits but i think its all there His plan is to restore it,but he wont. could check it out if youre interested.

[heavyduty]

hi guys,
im real keen too on a 3wheeler tri-z or cr250.
if anyone can help me find one to buy/rebuild eg... would be great!
thanks for ya time.
nathan.:niceone:

[That Guy]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Quads-ATVs/auction-241822123.htm

A banshee but a good price perhaps?

and this LT.. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Quads-ATVs/auction-241327723.htm

but I agree I'd rather have a 5 hundy...

[heavyduty]

hi again, not into 4 wheels , gota get a trike.
thx