Yamaha have made a bucket

[richban]

Not much grunt standard but it is fuel injected.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgNEon7vG4k

[Starky307]

Not much grunt standard but it is fuel injected. Gay add to. Still 3k ish nz plus shipping is not that bad really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RvjB2N

Check your link, it's no go for me.

[NinjaNanna]

Would one be shunned riding a nice new shiney bike?

Kind of like the idea of parts availability and hopefully reliability.

Also is FI allowed?

[richban]

Check your link, it's no go for me.


This might work.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgNEon7vG4k

[richban]

Would one be shunned riding a nice new shiney bike?

Kind of like the idea of parts availability and hopefully reliability.

Also is FI allowed?


After you took all the plastic crap off and chucked it down the track a couple of times it would look like just another bucket.

I think Injection is allowed.

Anyway interesting to see what is out there. I am sure there are plenty of crashed ones lying around. They are only available in India and Indonesia. Both are mad places to drive.

[MVnut]

Originally buckets were intended as a cheap intro to racing, I think $800 was the 'accepted' limit. People seem to be getting a bit carried away.

[richban]

Originally buckets were intended as a cheap intro to racing, I think $800 was the 'accepted' limit. People seem to be getting a bit carried away.


Accepted limit. Nice one.

It's one of the cheapest forms of bike racing. Even if you get a bit carried away.

[F5 Dave]

It's funny how people decide that bucket racing has to fit their interpretation & budget. These unwritten rules seem to pop up which no two people can agree on & not find in any rule book. Rich is perfectly able to buy one of these & race it legally.

. . . Just he might not make it further than the first corner. Several times.

[richban]

It's funny how people decide that bucket racing has to fit their interpretation & budget. These unwritten rules seem to pop up which no two people can agree on & not find in any rule book. Rich is perfectly able to buy one of these & race it legally.

. . . Just he might not make it further than the first corner. Several times.


Well said. I don't want to buy the fucking thing I just thought it was interesting.

People tend to get upset a lot on this forum.

[F5 Dave]

I

AM

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UPSET!!!




:baby:

[richban]

I

AM

NOT


UPSET!!!




:baby:


You coming out on Sunday? I would like your opinion on my suspension setup.

[F5 Dave]

um, yeah I should be.

[Buddha#81]

It's funny how people decide that bucket racing has to fit their interpretation & budget. These unwritten rules seem to pop up which no two people can agree on & not find in any rule book. Rich is perfectly able to buy one of these & race it legally.

This is so true, We had two Aussie spec CBR150's turn up with their tyre warmers etc, one has even had a going over with cams and carb work (probably other stuff too). At $9K each there was a call to ban them, with the push that they were purpose built race bikes etc. Yes they are fast with good pilots, but not unbeatable. These bikes have been good for the Chch Bucket scene by raising the bar. It seems if the bar gets raised the call is to lynch the owner/rider.

I'm with Dave, if its legal.....let it race. Who knows what's around the corner. Wait until they start putting some of this four stroke MX technology into their commuters!

[richban]

This is so true, We had two Aussie spec CBR150's turn up with their tyre warmers etc, one has even had a going over with cams and carb work (probably other stuff too). At $9K each there was a call to ban them, with the push that they were purpose built race bikes etc. Yes they are fast with good pilots, but not unbeatable. These bikes have been good for the Chch Bucket scene by raising the bar. It seems if the bar gets raised the call is to lynch the owner/rider.

I'm with Dave, if its legal.....let it race. Who knows what's around the corner. Wait until they start putting some of this four stroke MX technology into their commuters!

FXR CBR YZ thing. They are all just a modern version of the original buckets. People will crash them we will buy them cheap, and race them. Thats how its goes. The more bikes out there the better.

[diesel pig]

FXR CBR YZ thing. They are all just a modern version of the original buckets. People will crash them we will buy them cheap, and race them. Thats how its goes. The more bikes out there the better.

Well put richban

[F5 Dave]

. . . . Thats how its goes. The more bikes out there the better.
yup. Up to a point though. Don't want to make other bikes obsolete, that may thin the numbers. Think SV650s in F3. [edit actually, lets not get into that debate].

The current rules have been surprisingly resilient. FXRs have been good for the sport. They are easy & better than sum of their parts. But they aren't unbeatable. In fact they prolly have enough of a limitation. CBRs weren't that fast either. Fast for sure. But not worth 9k, that was just because of the series.

But I do oppose any mx engined formula. That path can only lead to expensive maintenance & a lack of engines (they get ridden by junior until shrapnel) so people would have to buy newer complete bikes.

Pretty as a YZF125 may be it wouldn't be after a season. We will only get a few of these as imports, but I don't think they will pose any more threat than an import CBR150. Less I would hazard. Pass me an MB100.

[Shorty_925]

here's another Yamaha option :

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.uk/products/motorcycles/125cc/yzf-r125.jsp?view=explorer&subview=colours

I saw a few of these in the Uk when I was there, ALOT of bike for the engine size, but a nice entry into the Yamaha family instead of jumping form a scooter to a 600. A bit too much for bucket racing, but then again after collecting my winnings this wednesday i might just go out and get one! :done:

[DELLORTO]

here's another Yamaha option :

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.uk/products/motorcycles/125cc/yzf-r125.jsp?view=explorer&subview=colours

I saw a few of these in the Uk when I was there, ALOT of bike for the engine size, but a nice entry into the Yamaha family instead of jumping form a scooter to a 600. A bit too much for bucket racing, but then again after collecting my winnings this wednesday i might just go out and get one! :done:

looks cool but being SOHC wouldnt it be slower than a fxr150?

just a thing about fuel injection.....it not as fun because you if you put a new pipe on it or fiddle with the motor your likey to loose lots of HP....unless you put it on a dyno every time you fiddle with it.......thats not what bucket racing is about

[Buckets4Me]

if you cant build it buy it
if you cant buy it
learn how to build it

if you cant ride it
you are stuffed :weep:

I dont care what anyone spends on a bucket
Mine was cheap enough but you lot would ban me for having it :mad:

if I could ride I would wip you all (or crash trying)

I personaly think that the yz is not as nice as some of the buckets already built
and on the track (F5Daves 50 Rick52 FXR Dangerous Fxr Tzr350 DD's rsDerbie's x3 ) there are just heeps of nice looking and handeling bikes out there some look nicer than other some are ridden better than others but they are all great bikes and $800 will not buy one anymore (with inflation I recon it's 3 times that much now)

$2500 would be a good budget for a good going bucket nowadays

and you still couldent get into any other motorsport for that sorta money
and be competitive :hug:

bet your TV cost more

[Buckets4Me]

just a thing about fuel injection.....it not as fun because you if you put a new pipe on it or fiddle with the motor your likey to loose lots of HP....unless you put it on a dyno every time you fiddle with it.......thats not what bucket racing is about

that what I have to do to get HP out of my Carby gp125
put it on a Dyno and fiddle :P

changing pipes is all good and fun but you dont get the best by tuning at the track
Just go and ask TZ350 who went from an 18.5 hp bike to a rocket having 14hp and wheeling everywhere to a bike with close to 20hp now

[Kickaha]

$2500 would be a good budget for a good going bucket nowadays



If it costs you that much you're getting tucked

[gav]

Originally buckets were intended as a cheap intro to racing, I think $800 was the 'accepted' limit. People seem to be getting a bit carried away.
Nah not really, being an old bugger I can recall racing at Woodbourne when the first Suzuki RG50 turned up, looking like it came straight from the dealer. Pretty sure they were more than $800 new?
And anyway $800 back in early 80's be worth how much these days?

[UNSTABLE]

If it costs you that much you're getting tucked

That depends how competitive you want to be, I think it's a lot closer to the mark than this much touted $800 price... Yes that will get you some sort of contraption with 2 wheels.

I got lucky and got an FXR for cheap, however, by the time you have modified it a little, bought slicks, wets, spare wheels, carb, pipe, etc etc, there's no way you can do it for that money.

If you just want to go racing and have some fun, I would think $1000-1500 for a decent bike ready to go, a bit more if you build the bike yourself.

[ajturbo]

fuck... 1500... 2500....

the most i have ever spent on a bike AND engine bits/tuning is a total of $500..

even if i added the cost of the bikes i raced back in the day of gav's woodbourn times till today, i would NOT have spent $1500 !!!!! and that was with 3 bikes in neslon and 3 up north here.... sure they were/are not as good looking as dave's or DD's etc..
but i have fun, they go 95% of the time (until they run out of gas... woops or poke a hole in the engine)

you guys are getting your wallets to rule you tooo much...

cost of the bike should be no more than 200... in fact i have NEVER spent more than $150 on buying a bike!!! MOST were brought for $50.... the GT cost 150, the RG cost $50..... the CB i was given!!! took two seasons to kill

[fi5hy]

AJ if you want to have fun and ride up the front $150 just isn't going to cut it today. My bike that I'm riding know when I first put that together it cost $30 and 1 doz DB @ $13 for the motor and 4 doz DB bitter @ $11 a doz for the frame so yes $87 dollars you can get things on the cheap

[nudemetalz]

Mine has cost me over $4K so far........ :crazy:

[bungbung]

4k? I think mine totals maybe about $1200

[F5 Dave]

fuck... 1500... 2500....

the most i have ever spent on a bike AND engine bits/tuning is a total of $500..

even if i added the cost of the bikes i raced back in the day of gav's woodbourn times till today, i would NOT have spent $1500 !!!!! and that was with 3 bikes in neslon and 3 up north here.... sure they were/are not as good looking as dave's or DD's etc..
but i have fun, they go 95% of the time (until they run out of gas... woops or poke a hole in the engine)

you guys are getting your wallets to rule you tooo much...

cost of the bike should be no more than 200... in fact i have NEVER spent more than $150 on buying a bike!!! MOST were brought for $50.... the GT cost 150, the RG cost $50..... the CB i was given!!! took two seasons to kill

95% of the time :lol::lol:

So when was the last time you had a bike to race?
I mean the GT blew up before you went to BOB ~ mid last year, just you didn't want to believe it. If you put your hand in you pocket you'd be able to race more.

[nudemetalz]

4k? I think mine totals maybe about $1200

I did mine the hard way plus I tried a lot of different things on it which all cost $$$.

[Buddha#81]

Mine has cost me over $4K so far........ :crazy:

$1500-2K for me, $1K off Sketchey and wheeling and dealing has only made it look better and handle slightly better.

[Skunk]

Mines competitive in the right hands... $1200 if I built it right now as it is. But I started with a $100 bucket and 'developed' it over 4 years into what it is. $3-3500 over 4 years is not bad. About even for a FXR over 4 years really.

The rules are good and people can spend what they like. It'll still cost you much the same to be at the front with whatever way you go - CBR, FXR, MB...

[Buckets4Me]

mny first bucket cost $50 CB125T but I gave up on it when looking at how much it needed to get ready (new frount end forks + brakes) the guy that brought it off me spent $2000 on it before the first race (and nothing since )
it's still fast today but need a rebuild and bore to 150cc

my first gp125 cost me $150 to buy

and in it's rs form owes me less than $1500

but I can tell you someone has spent heeps more on it than that

just a standard engine rebuild with new parts can cost
and machining is not free
new shocks I got Olins on the rs :2thumbsup and a bent rear shock on the old bike :mad:
and have you ever priced new slicks ???? $600+ a set
or a set of spare wheels

[ajturbo]

hey fish..

i am about to get back into it..

doing some maintenance on both the bikes...so will see how much that will cost...

[ajturbo]

just one think on the amout of $$$ i spent on the buckets last year....

i spent fuck all... but i did spend over 20k on luke.... thats the reason not much racing got done then and now....

[Sketchy_Racer]

just one think on the amout of $$$ i spent on the buckets last year....

i spent fuck all... but i did spend over 20k on luke.... thats the reason not much racing got done then and now....

And they say girlfriends are expensive aye ;)

[fi5hy]

And they say girlfriends are expensive aye ;)


You wait till you get kids! mind you this is one to remember (up the bum no baby's):buggerd:

[ajturbo]

at least his helmet fits me..... hahahaha

what?.. luke not here?? where is he?...

i got ya helmet.. hahahahahah

20k and all i have is a helmet :beer: