Camera vans

[kiwi6]

I read here a while ago that the cops had purchased some (expensive) Toyota vans to replace the Mitsi camera vans .... today I saw a black Hyundai van (see photo) ... very hard to pick up as it looks like a old import van !! ... it was using the new "K" band camera

[steve_t]

Nah, these are the vans now. You're right that they're Hyundai and use K band

[Alpha Solo]

They also use old backpacker vans on the West Coast (South Island) there is a ropey looking white one in Westport... :Police: good reason to stick to the speed limits :innocent:

[unstuck]

We have one down here in a crappy looking old toyota estima . Sneaky buggers.:yes:

[red mermaid]

They are trialling a red stationwagon round the Manawatu.

[jim.cox]

Why do we allow them to use mufti-vehicles ?

Surely they would do a better job as safety measures if they were very clearly marked

As they are in other countries...

Its not quite entrapment - but it does add to the evidence of revenue gathering

It realy is a shame to see the Boys in Blue reduced to tax collector status

[SMOKEU]

Set it on fire or spray FTP on the side. Cops love file transfer protocol.

[BoristheBiter]

Why do we allow them to use mufti-vehicles ?

Surely they would do a better job as safety measures if they were very clearly marked

As they are in other countries...

Its not quite entrapment - but it does add to the evidence of revenue gathering

It realy is a shame to see the Boys in Blue reduced to tax collector status

funny you should say that as there is one up here that is all decked out in police colours.

http://media2.apnonline.com.au/img/media/images/2012/12/18/JS171212NADSPEED023_fct342x258x170_t460.JPG

[Zedder]

[QUOTE=BoristheBiter;1130494506]funny you should say that as there is one up here that is all decked out in police colours.

Yep, there's 7 in total around the country according to this:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10854811

[Maha]

Things have really moved forward over the last 4 years.

[Zedder]

At least the cops are trying to be fair.

[Gremlin]

funny you should say that as there is one up here that is all decked out in police colours.
Result: Traffic suddenly slowed on approach (northbound) to the BP Autobahn. Doing 100kph happily then crawling at 50kph.

Got past the van parked up, back to 90-100kph. :facepalm:

Can they please ticket morons slowing to half speed past the vans?

[328FTW]

I almost dumped my old toyota in the manakau harbour one night cause I ripped a massive handbrake slide past the camera but then I couldn't get it to release. Was one of those decisions that you immediately regret making

[McFatty1000]

Result: Traffic suddenly slowed on approach (northbound) to the BP Autobahn. Doing 100kph happily then crawling at 50kph.

Got past the van parked up, back to 90-100kph. :facepalm:

Can they please ticket morons slowing to half speed past the vans?

Its almost like people think they get police brownie points for each km they do under the speed limit past cameras...

[steve_t]

Result: Traffic suddenly slowed on approach (northbound) to the BP Autobahn. Doing 100kph happily then crawling at 50kph.

Got past the van parked up, back to 90-100kph. :facepalm:

Can they please ticket morons slowing to half speed past the vans?

It's cos one person sees the van and brakes to 95, the person behind them brakes to 90 to allow space for further braking if required, and so on and so forth with a queue of traffic that passes that point at a ridiculously low speed and then immediately, and sometimes seemingly magically, the traffic goes back to normal speed

[imdying]

There's a video of the effect taken in UK on Youtube. One person touches the brakes, a mile back the entire lane comes to a stop.

[Zedder]

Yeah, it's not just camera vans or the like though.

Road/motorway incidents which are off to the side still get the "rubber neckers" treatment of dropping their speed to a crawl until past, then back up to what they were before.

[imdying]

I think the video was something to do with 'phantom crashes' or similar... you wonder why it's gone all slow on you, you wait to pass the accident scene, but there is no scene to be seen...

[Zedder]

I think the video was something to do with 'phantom crashes' or similar... you wonder why it's gone all slow on you, you wait to pass the accident scene, but there is no scene to be seen...

Ffs man, where's the vid? The suspense is killing me...

[imdying]

funny you should say that as there is one up here that is all decked out in police colours.Yes but that isn't a safety focussed initiative, that's just the government mocking you.

[imdying]

Ffs man, where's the vid? The suspense is killing me...Yeah I know and I'm sorry... searching for 'phantom accident on UK motorways' is just a waste of time. All I can tell you is that it was part of a documentary. Maybe others have seen in, in which case perhaps I didn't see it on YT at all, maybe it was on TV. Seems unlikely, I've never seen anything but endless ads on TV.

[Zedder]

Yeah I know and I'm sorry... searching for 'phantom accident on UK motorways' is just a waste of time. All I can tell you is that it was part of a documentary. Maybe others have seen in, in which case perhaps I didn't see it on YT at all, maybe it was on TV. Seems unlikely, I've never seen anything but endless ads on TV.

That's ok. If you're interested, just look up the "butterfly effect" related to chaos theory.

[pzkpfw]

I've seen that effect here, when a mower is doing the median between the North and Southbound lanes. It's not even on the road, but there's flashing lights and stuff to warn people. They do it in the morning rush hour. Suddenly there's the same effect as for an accident, with a real choke point on the road.


Make you wonder why camera vans are used when the roads are full enough to have this effect. Surely there's not much scope for someone to be significantly speeding, if all the lanes are more or less full.

[Zedder]

Maybe there's something more sinister afoot. It could be related to the WoF changes and the vans are just the start of a whole new campaign to nab poor bikers.

Imagine this: You see the van and slow down but that's what they want of course. Hiding in the back of the van is a couple of cops who whip out, stop you and do a rego and Wof check.

They ping you for "offences", do the instant fine thing and if you can't/don't pay, they load the bike into the van and hang on to it until the fine is paid.