Manfeild Long Circuit?

[Ivan]

Any one know the reason as to why this circuit does not get used for nationals?

my guess is the cost?

[koba]

Any one know the reason as to why this circuit does not get used for nationals?

my guess is the cost?

Not as spectator friendly?
Not as high quality surface, drainage, camber?
Harder to get marshals etc for?
Longer turnover between races?

Lots of guesses, does it matter?

[Duke girl]

I would say that could be the reason as it costs alot more to hire the whole of the Manfield circuit and if you dont get the entries in to cover at least the hireage fee then whats the point. No club wants to be out of pocket.
Also from a spectators point you cant see the bikes all that well once they are on the extended part. You also need alot more Marshalls as there are 4 more points to cover.
I would be very interested to find out from those riders who raced on the weekend what their thoughts were regarding racing on the extended part of the Manfeild circuit?.

[Deano]

Apart from a few bumps, it's mint.

[sharky]

The long track is awesome. The short one ain't too bad either:yes:

[Skunk]

It's not up to the standard (FIM) as the rest of the circuit. Manfeild itself can't use it (test days) unless it is. As they are upgrading the pits etc I don't see the money forthcoming to do it either. VMCC can use it as the permit comes from MNZ to do so. Nationals would need FIM standard I guess. Gravel traps, marshal points, curbing, track edge lines, removal of the buildings and posts etc...

[Ivan]

my original post wasnt ment to sound like im complaining it was mor ejust a question in the air.

My opinions of it is like Deano said a few bumps to deal with other than that it is mint and it really makes the racing alot more fun with more corners to deal with.

I thought it might have something to with spectator friendlyness and cost
But World superbikes used to race there all them years ago

[wharfy]

Apart from a few bumps, it's mint.


The long track is awesome. The short one ain't too bad either:yes:

What they said.

Even the hairpin :)

[scrivy]

World superbikes used to race there all them years ago

Did they? I thought only the short track?

[Ivan]

Did they? I thought only the short track?

Oh someone said in the weekend world superbikes raced there and I never saw footage so just believed what they had said

[Burrt Badger]

Ivan.

The long circuit was not in existence when WSBK raced here in the late 80's early 90's. They raced on the short circuit only.

[robertydog]

Did they? I thought only the short track?

Yea just the short track

[Ivan]

allgood shows not to listen to everything you hear,


Its a shame its nto a National circuit it has some really awsome corners on it and changes it from a horsepower cicuit to a riders circuit

[Billy]

The long circuit was used for the Nationals back in the mid 90s when Jason Mc Ewen was riding the Britten.I think the biggest restrictions are cost of trck hire and finding enough experienced Marshals.Makes no difference anyway,As I understand it they are going to scrap soon as its not utilised enough.The reason for the different camber is because Toyota NZ specified a flat track for their testing.The World supers never ran on it,I did all three rounds at Manfeild and they were all on the club circuit,The only true superbike too run on it was Aaron Slights Factory RC45 at the 95 National round (demonstration laps only) clocked at 250Ks down the front straight

[Ivan]

haha old Slighty another Wairarapa boy and 3rd cousin

Maybe thats what I heard as Aaron Slight was something to do with it and got mixed up when someone said Aaron Slights superbike ran round there and I being me assumed that they ran the long circuit.

[slowpoke]

First time I've been on it last weekend and I came 'round the L/H sweeper to really notice that concrete wall along the end back straight for the first time. Yeah, I've seen it before, but all of a sudden you realise what you are gonna hit if it all goes pear shaped. The big boys will be carrying some serious speed around there and it kinda goes off camber coming onto the main circuit too.

Even along the short chute between the two 90deg R/H's the trees aren't too far off if you got loose after the first one.

[Skunk]

As I understand it they are going to scrap soon as its not utilised enough.
I talked Sue at Manfeild and she doesn't know of any plan to scrap it - just no plan to develop it. Off the record and not the official word of course, I just asked her direct and that's what she said. She doesn't know where the 'scrapping' story came from but it seems to have gotten around.

[Whitebait]

"As I understand it they are going to scrap soon as its not utilised enough"...........................NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO!!!

Lucky someone squashed that rumor straight away!

Get rid of the low side lump where the drain is aroung the sweeper and that would be an awesome track!!!

Not that great for the little 2 smoker but it really is a riders track!!:yes:

[Biggles08]

I would say that could be the reason as it costs alot more to hire the whole of the Manfield circuit and if you dont get the entries in to cover at least the hireage fee then whats the point. No club wants to be out of pocket.
Also from a spectators point you cant see the bikes all that well once they are on the extended part. You also need alot more Marshalls as there are 4 more points to cover.
I would be very interested to find out from those riders who raced on the weekend what their thoughts were regarding racing on the extended part of the Manfeild circuit?.

WICKED CIRCUIT SUE!!!!!!! WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than only the front...its by far my favorite circuit now! 4.5km or there abouts is a great distance for races....BIG thumbs up for running this track as much as possible. As far as the surface its still ample better than taupo at the moment and heaps of grip....even that bump on the left hander back to the front part of the circuit...just need to be aware of it....as with the two ripples heading off the front part. Adds to the skill level.:woohoo:

[Biggles08]

It's not up to the standard (FIM) as the rest of the circuit. Manfeild itself can't use it (test days) unless it is. As they are upgrading the pits etc I don't see the money forthcoming to do it either. VMCC can use it as the permit comes from MNZ to do so. Nationals would need FIM standard I guess. Gravel traps, marshal points, curbing, track edge lines, removal of the buildings and posts etc...
If this is the case why can they still use Pukekohe???? surely that can't be up to FIM standard??? Manfield is heaps safer than Pukekohe!

[Deano]

haha old Slighty another Wairarapa boy and 3rd cousin.

You Wairarapa types are all related though aren't ya ? (cue duelling banjos)

I hadn't really paid any attention to the lack of run off before Saturday when I nearly had an intimate encounter with the tyre wall.

[Ivan]

You Wairarapa types are all related though aren't ya ? (cue duelling banjos)

I hadn't really paid any attention to the lack of run off before Saturday when I nearly had an intimate encounter with the tyre wall.

I will admit over the last few years I have met lots of new cousins lol I didnt know I had haha.

we aint that bad tho

[merv]

Further to Billy's comment I was there when Aaron did the demo laps on the RC45 and it was the year the Irish came including one Joey Dunlop. John Britten was still alive and was a bit taken aback that Aaron in just a few quick demo laps did faster laps than the Britten had and Aaron also pulled one very long mono down the front straight too. Why the hell couldn't that guy Aaron win a world championship?

[Ivan]

Further to Billy's cooment I was there when Aaron did the demo laps on the RC45 and it was the year the Irish came including one Joey Dunlop. John Britten was still alive and was a bit taken aback that Aaron in just a few quick demo laps did faster laps than the Britten had and Aaron also pulled one very long mono down the front straight too. Why the hell couldn't that guy Aaron win a world championship?

he could have I reckon if he hadnt got that brain tumour.

My opinion he is one of the best racers ever


Also I did notice that wall coming back onto circuit but a air fence would solve that issue and just dont look there and hopefully you wont head towards it

[quallman1234]

he could have I reckon if he hadnt got that brain tumour.

My opinion he is one of the best racers ever


Also I did notice that wall coming back onto circuit but a air fence would solve that issue and just dont look there and hopefully you wont head towards it

Its espically slippery on the outside of that last corner back on to the normal track. Somewhat freaky having the wall so close and having the back come round on you!, but i guess i haven't seen nothing yet without ridden @ pukie.

[Ivan]

Its espically slippery on the outside of that last corner back on to the normal track. Somewhat freaky having the wall so close and having the back come round on you!, but i guess i haven't seen nothing yet without ridden @ pukie.

Puke is worse screaming directly towards the armco barrier at leas there your cranked over and turning away from the wall

[Foxzee]

Hey all...sounds like you all enjoyed the long track and smiles on faces coming into pit lane confirmed that.

With regards to Nationals VMCC is only the "hosting" club..we provide the awesome vollies, commitment to road racing, dedication and experience to support MNZ to hold this series. Track choice, venue and format is governed by their formatted regulations regarding a National Series.

Dee (VMCC) (wow and a joy jerm at the same time....)

[Clivoris]

I love the challenge of the long track and the change it provides to the shorter circuit. I haven't been able to find any confirmation that the long circuit is to be disposed of so we should be able to keep using it until we wear it out. Getting enough marshals is always a challenge for the long-track but Nigel is getting a really solid team of awesome marshals consolidated. Best we look after them so please continue to show your appreciation people. Their sweat is worth bottling.

[Skunk Control]

I hadn't really paid any attention to the lack of run off before Saturday when I nearly had an intimate encounter with the tyre wall.

Yeah never mind the tyre wall what about the poor photographer standing on top of the wall :laugh:

[ajturbo]

Yeah never mind the tyre wall what about the poor photographer standing on top of the wall :laugh:
i do like the red brake leaver....

[DEATH_INC.]

I've only ridden the long track once, but fook it's good, way better than just the front section.
I'd planned on doing two of the winter rounds (not gonna happen now, long story....) but they were gonna be the one's on the long track.

[ajturbo]

I've only ridden the long track once, but fook it's good, way better than just the front section.
I'd planned on doing two of the winter rounds (not gonna happen now, long story....) but they were gonna be the one's on the long track.
bugger... would have been great to catch up again!!!

[Cleve]

I've only ridden the long track once, but fook it's good, way better than just the front section.
I'd planned on doing two of the winter rounds (not gonna happen now, long story....) but they were gonna be the one's on the long track.

I agree. Have done the long track once too and loved it. With a little work it could turn Manfeild into the best track in NZ.

[wharfy]

he could have I reckon if he hadnt got that brain tumour.

My opinion he is one of the best racers ever


Also I did notice that wall coming back onto circuit but a air fence would solve that issue and just dont look there and hopefully you wont head towards it

I DIDN'T notice it but now that you bastards have mentioned it I will probably not be able to think about anything else next time !!! :shit: :shit:


I often wonder how many nights Slighty lays awake thinking about what could have been if his " team mate " hadn't taken him out. "I" nearly cried watching it on TV.

[johan]

We'll be back on the long track in August, round 4 :Punk:

[DEATH_INC.]

We'll be back on the long track in August, round 4 :Punk:
i know...I'm gonna be in aus... :weep:

[MD]

The extension was used a lot up until about 2004 for the car/bike track days. The logic I heard at the time was that they didn't want pimple faced boy racers getting their crap heaps up to terminal speed along the back straight and having a major crash entering the sweeper.

I miss that long circuit. Manfeild has never been as much fun since.

They were brilliant track days. $40 a pop but the bikes did have to take second place to the cars for track time.

Typical knee-jerk over reaction to safety concerns - cease all public car/bike days. Just because the car idiots were reckless - cars circulating packed full with passengers hanging out the windows with cans of drink, cameras and fags. Passengers hanging out the windows (no seatbelt on) waving at the crowd to make sure everyone was in no doubt about how stupid they were.

A few simple rules would have sorted out the drop-kicks. There seemed to be absolutely no rules for the cars! But the bikes were checked and Riders had to have decent riding gear.

[Shaun]

Hey all...sounds like you all enjoyed the long track and smiles on faces coming into pit lane confirmed that.

With regards to Nationals VMCC is only the "hosting" club..we provide the awesome vollies, commitment to road racing, dedication and experience to support MNZ to hold this series. Track choice, venue and format is governed by their formatted regulations regarding a National Series.

Dee (VMCC) (wow and a joy jerm at the same time....)


Hey, perhaps some one within the VMCC club could talk with Leyton Minnel @ Wanganui scene RE there Airfence for when the long track is used IF this turn is an issue?

There would be costs involved though for transportation etc I am sure

[Foxzee]

Hey, perhaps some one within the VMCC club could talk with Leyton Minnel @ Wanganui scene RE there Airfence for when the long track is used IF this turn is an issue?

There would be costs involved though for transportation etc I am sure


Hey there...it has been discussed at a recent meeting and I believe it is being followed up as a possibility

[CHOPPA]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m143x5sSPWc&feature=PlayList&p=AD38C7F9CC3F2229&index=24

[zxr400#150]

I have to say, that manfeild long circuit is awsome!!! adds veriety, and the bumps make it a little more challenging, but still awsome fun!!!! the air bags could be a good idea for the concret wall as u entre back onto the back strait, but the corner still had plenty of grip, enuff to hapily go around the out side of people to set ur self up for dunlop. as long as u keep ur eyes from look at the concret wall

[wharfy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m143x5sSPWc&feature=PlayList&p=AD38C7F9CC3F2229&index=24

Way cool video !!!

[Cleve]

Way cool video !!!

I was there (wipes tear from eye) such good memories...

[Shaun]

Hey there...it has been discussed at a recent meeting and I believe it is being followed up as a possibility



Awsome, I have a 6 mtr long trailer, that I could transport sections in if required, any where from Wanganui to Taupo if reqd

[Foxzee]

Awsome, I have a 6 mtr long trailer, that I could transport sections in if required, any where from Wanganui to Taupo if reqd

Awesome Shaun...thanks heaps for that offer.....I'll pass on to rest of committee.....

[scrivy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m143x5sSPWc&feature=PlayList&p=AD38C7F9CC3F2229&index=24

Ah yes. Memories........ Robbie will be here in December too!!