DB1k 2010 - Official Thread

[Crisis management]

Momentum is your ruts?

Told you I got confused.

[NordieBoy]

For small streams its always been - sit it on the back wheel and keep your feet dry :clap: - but then thats usually been on the Gas Gas

I kneel on the seat.

Gives more control.

[Racing Dave]

For those that did the run last year these bits are not that different from Altimarlock but if you really didn't like it then I'd suggest you go around. Both sections can be got around but you miss a lot of the route if you don't go over Omarama Saddle. Skipping Black Forest doesn't miss that much of the route.

...we could all stay home, and miss out the entire event.

It's not that scary - I've ridden through Black Forest in the dark (F650) and in thick fog (CT110), and strongly believe in riding to the conditions. With no visibility there's no distraction.

Old fossils (me!) remember in the 70's, in the Heatway Rally, BF was a special stage at night, and no one went over the edge.

[Transalper]

I've been known to launch off a rock and park with front wheel below the edge but personally I have no fear of that happening on any of the DB routes.

[thepom]

I have now fitted two stability wheels to the xt........

[cooneyr]

...we could all stay home, and miss out the entire event....

Yep. Just want people to know what they might be getting themselves into and know there is an option if it all turns to custard.

When at Uni I use to do a heap of mountain climbing. I got sick of the number of times I'd have to baby (put the left foot here and the right foot here now put the left foot there...) somebody off a mountain cause they lost it. Not fun for anybody!

Cheers R

[Racing Dave]

When at Uni I use to do a heap of mountain climbing. I got sick of the number of times I'd have to baby (put the left foot here and the right foot here now put the left foot there...) somebody off a mountain cause they lost it. Not fun for anybody!

Cheers R

Fair enough.

By co-incidence, I had my first mountain climbing experience last weekend, on a guided trip to Ruapehu's summit. Despite the apalling weather overnight, it was a great experience, and I didn't need to be babied at all.

But I'm getting off the point.

I agree that providing riders are given a reasonable overview of the course, then they can decide how to approach it, but I'd hate to see someone put off from riding two of the more spectactular sections, just because they have to ride properly to get through unscathed.

[Waihou Thumper]

Will be heading down your way bout the 13th onwards....So, see ya all there...:beer:

[Woodman]

Will be heading down your way bout the 13th onwards....So, see ya all there...:beer:

you coming thru nelson ? because you will need a passport

[Waihou Thumper]

you coming thru nelson ? because you will need a passport

Possible, so I may need an extension on my tourist Visa...;)
I may be heading near and far with a bit of help from my fellow South Island Kiwibikers...Gotta find all of those special places you guys go and get lost and muddy on....
That's if you like sharing? :hug:

[JATZ]

Will be heading down your way bout the 13th onwards....So, see ya all there...:beer:

Cool...... we can have BIG races :woohoo:

actually.... no.... I'l prove that blue ones go faster and beterer than orange ones :pokey:

were leaving on the 13 too, via west coast and some other places

[Waihou Thumper]

Cool...... we can have BIG races :woohoo:

actually.... no.... I'l prove that blue ones go faster and beterer than orange ones :pokey:

were leaving on the 13 too, via west coast and some other places

You can show me why three holes are better than one! :eek5:

[JATZ]

You can show me why three holes are better than one! :eek5:

Ahhhh .....so many replies just waiting to be typed :whistle:

[Waihou Thumper]

Don't start....:whistle:

[.chris]

Will be heading down your way bout the 13th onwards....So, see ya all there...:beer:

I am leaving Auck on the 4th/5th and intend on being in Fairlie from about the 10th, so if anyone arrives early and wants to do a trail ride/see some sights give me a shout.

[Waihou Thumper]

I am leaving Auck on the 4th/5th and intend on being in Fairlie from about the 10th, so if anyone arrives early and wants to do a trail ride/see some sights give me a shout.

On staying in the South for about 10-12 days, this includes the DB ride...
Pretty much zig zag down the North Island, catch the ferry on the 14th evening or morning, then zig, zig, and a bit of a zag towards....Fairlie, missing as much tar as the GPS can find me! ;)
After the DB? Who knows? Find some metal and some mining roads and some trails, explore, get lost and eat lotsa fish and chips! :)
I will be trying t ofind the DOC campsites, save on sleeping costs....Why pay so much to sleep? That's petrol money to ride more and further! :whistle:

[dino3310]

shite Mark once you get that big opened up along those southern plains you wont wana come back north:oi-grr:

[Waihou Thumper]

shite Mark once you get that big opened up along those southern plains you wont wana come back north:oi-grr:

That's the plan! Mind you I will be following my road book so will keep it under 120kph for a bit....;)
The bike growls at me, it starts between me thighs and then sort of goes down to the pegs and then all hell breaks loose! ;)

[.chris]

I will be trying t ofind the DOC campsites, save on sleeping costs....Why pay so much to sleep? That's petrol money to ride more and further! :whistle:

I will talk to my little bro, he is a local/very keen hunter and knows the ins-outs of the area DOC camps sites/cabins around the Mackenzie country. Will see what I can find out for you.

[Waihou Thumper]

I will talk to my little bro, he is a local/very keen hunter and knows the ins-outs of the area DOC camps sites/cabins around the Mackenzie country. Will see what I can find out for you.

DOC have a good booklet, I did browse it, they even give the lat and long co ords....pretty cool. :sweatdrop saves a little looking....
I reckon you could even free Bivvie around the south, especially with the bikes....I am not tight, just want to try a bit of real ADV sort of stuff....:)

[Woodman]

Looks like I will be leaving Nelson early on the 14th, heading down West coast way. (at this stage). Tyres, should i ask about tyres??????

[Waihou Thumper]

Looks like I will be leaving Nelson early on the 14th, heading down West coast way. (at this stage). Tyres, should i ask about tyres??????

But we have to have a really safe distance apart....KLR an all....:)
:hug:OK, I might be able to hook up....

[Woodman]

But we have to have a really safe distance apart....KLR an all....:)
:hug:OK, I might be able to hook up....

Considering you are on a DR saying that you wanna hook up makes me a tad nervous.

[.chris]

DOC have a good booklet, I did browse it, they even give the lat and long co ords....pretty cool. :sweatdrop saves a little looking....
I reckon you could even free Bivvie around the south, especially with the bikes....I am not tight, just want to try a bit of real ADV sort of stuff....:)

I considered doing the tent trip down, but bugger it, by the time I buy a tent/new sleeping bag/all the other gear you need, I could probably stay in 5 star hotels the whole trip for less, so I am just going to camping ground cabin/motel/b&b my way south, and because of the 690's lack of ability to carry much gear, makes that seem like the logic choice for me.

But I do intend on stealing my bro's gear and heading backwoods for a night or two, but a week of it going soth does not appeal so much.

[Waihou Thumper]

Considering you are on a DR saying that you wanna hook up makes me a tad nervous.

Oh, for a moment there, I swore I had a KTM still....geez, bugger, it is orange and old, but an awesome beast....So, maybe I can tag along somewhere...purleeze....:)

[Woodman]

Oh, for a moment there, I swore I had a KTM still....geez, bugger, it is orange and old, but an awesome beast....So, maybe I can tag along somewhere...purleeze....:)

No worries.....

[alane]

Comming down from the NAKI.
Which one of my 16 bikes will I bring??<_< Actually,12 are stuffed:buggerd:,or in bits,so choice aint that hard.:clap:What gravel can I "DO" on the way down??? (got a son in Nelson)Will I tie in with some other N.I. "nutters??:grouphug:
Couple of Q,s---
---Can you still buy those "CLICK CLACK" boxes??----
made one once ,with another breed of box but the top is a bit opaque (hard to see through.) Used 12mm wooden dowell for the rollers & put "H2GO" blue caps on ,for handles/knobbs,after knockin out the "pull-knobb" part.Fitted perfectly.If I remember right,---(bit senile)--had trouble drilling the holes for the axles,so heated a knife sharpening steel on a stove element,("she who rule,s" moaned abought the stink:2guns:)& poked that through.:niceone::niceone:
---Ferry discounts----
Just a thought, don,t suppose there,s any chance of getting fare discounts organised,like was available for the "BERT MUNRO"----I guess "INTERISLANDER" ,---WERE-- sponsers for them??:yeah:

[NordieBoy]

Ferry discount shouldn't be too hard to get.

[alane]

Thats bloody helpfull!!!:doh::innocent:::laugh:
If I take a 410 sawnoff shotgun--I might persuade em ,---well10% @ least.:laugh:

[NordieBoy]

Thats bloody helpfull!!!:doh::innocent:::laugh:
If I take a 410 sawnoff shotgun--I might persuade em ,---well10% @ least.:laugh:

:D

The guys that came down for the NIIOTS ride got a discount no problem.

Just takes one person to call and say "We've got at least X people going over and back with motorbikes. What can you do for us."
Ask JunkManJoe who his contact was for the NIIOTS ride.

[alane]

:D

The guys that came down for the NIIOTS ride got a discount no problem.

Just takes one person to call and say "We've got at least X people going over and back with motorbikes. What can you do for us."
Ask JunkManJoe who his contact was for the NIIOTS ride.

Yep O.K.:2thumbsup I did have a number to quote ,as a MCNZ member ,but can,t find the notebook I had it written in.:brick:Used it in Feb.--dunno if it,s changed periodicly.:scratch:

Googled Click CLack ---now realize they,re still made----& here (N.Z.) in Palmy.:niceone:

[Transalper]

Just finished uploading a new vid to Youtube from our Otago Adventuring in June 2008.
It includes some of the roads/tracks/passes involved in the Southern Dusty Butt but hopefully without the snow and with shallower fords in summer.
See it here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZiT_Bz7Yeo
Cheers
TA.

[Waihou Thumper]

Ok...Heading down south 9th or 10th, taking the long way down to the ferry, lots of metal and maybe a ride north first...
Then, heading across on the 3am ferry 11th Jan. After that, dunno?
Plan is to have breakfast in Blenheim or Picton...Hit the Port Underwood Rd, down to Molesworth, do that and sleep either in Hanmer or on the Molesworth. Prefer to nap out in the wild....
Next day, up to Rainbow, up to Nelson area, back roads, Mo...(5 mins out of town, from Nellywood..:)) or whatever it is called...:) Ride across and then as I will be back on the East coast I suppose, head somewhere for the night.
I want to get to Reefton, do some mine and river roads, Porika and the Braeburn, then meander down to Fairlie.....
I think four days to get to Fairlie is good and leaves plenty of time to ride....Doesn't get dark till late and I am a very early riser..:)
Coming home....Well, I have another two whole days, maybe three, I will explore the Catlans possibly or head up to Mid Canterbury and do some of those other roads that might get me lost, in trouble and maybe even sideways...:laugh:

Anybody keen to sort of do this, loosley organised, lots of Kilometres? Might meet for a yarn or coffee....Maybe exchange numbers to rendezvous?

[Woodman]

Ok...Heading down south 9th or 10th, taking the long way down to the ferry, lots of metal and maybe a ride north first...
Then, heading across on the 3am ferry 11th Jan. After that, dunno?
Plan is to have breakfast in Blenheim or Picton...Hit the Port Underwood Rd, down to Molesworth, do that and sleep either in Hanmer or on the Molesworth. Prefer to nap out in the wild....
Next day, up to Rainbow, up to Nelson area, back roads, Mo...(5 mins out of town, from Nellywood..:)) or whatever it is called...:) Ride across and then as I will be back on the East coast I suppose, head somewhere for the night.
I want to get to Reefton, do some mine and river roads, Porika and the Braeburn, then meander down to Fairlie.....
I think four days to get to Fairlie is good and leaves plenty of time to ride....Doesn't get dark till late and I am a very early riser..:)
Coming home....Well, I have another two whole days, maybe three, I will explore the Catlans possibly or head up to Mid Canterbury and do some of those other roads that might get me lost, in trouble and maybe even sideways...:laugh:

Anybody keen to sort of do this, loosley organised, lots of Kilometres? Might meet for a yarn or coffee....Maybe exchange numbers to rendezvous?

Sounds good I presume after the Rainbow you are gonna head towards blenheim then ova maungatap into nelson. PM me the dates you reckon you will be here and we may be able to organise something.

[Waihou Thumper]

Sounds good I presume after the Rainbow you are gonna head towards blenheim then ova maungatap into nelson. PM me the dates you reckon you will be here and we may be able to organise something.

Yep, head back to Blenheim then up to Manga and to Nelson...
I will have a look, but that sounds like a plan...Then down to Reefton and explore..

[topo]

Hey Cooney,

How's the route sheet going?
Are you able to confirm whether we'll be doing the Nevis stn section? (i'd rather leave it out if there's enough km, should be getting close to catching the sbc guys by about there too:Pokey:) Will there be any other changes to the earlier route sheet?

TOPO

[Transalper]

there are lots of small changes from the pre run draft version... some new cells, some removed cells and lots of distance corrections.
Last update I seen we will be going as far as Duffers Saddle then turn on to Caracktown Track.

[cooneyr]

Hey Cooney,

How's the route sheet going?
Are you able to confirm whether we'll be doing the Nevis stn section? (i'd rather leave it out if there's enough km, should be getting close to catching the sbc guys by about there too:Pokey:) Will there be any other changes to the earlier route sheet?

TOPO

Hi Topo. Been a very busy couple of weeks. I'm in your part of the country for a long weekend for some RnR. I hope to get a bit more work done on the GPX track logs and my website (the route shown on it and I'll post up the roll chart). There is a number of revisions to the route and the roll chart.

Cheers R

[cooneyr]

Hi All. I've just finishing updating the Dusty Butt Southern South Island webpage (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/db1kssi.html) and have updated the following

the route shown on the Google map,
the final roll chart (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/db1kssi/DB1kSSI%20V3.pdf) has been uploaded
the route data spreadsheet (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/db1kssi/Time%20and%20Distance%20OtagoA.pdf) with distances for fuel, gravel and estimated travel times has been updated
the Google earth file (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/db1kssi/db1kssiA.kmz) (will open in google earth over the aerial photos) has been updated
the topomaps with the route drawn on have been updated


I'll hopefully get the gps files finished and uploaded in the next couple of days.

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

the final roll chart (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/db1kssi/DB1kSSI%20V3.pdf) has been uploaded

Converted to 3 per page jpg's.

[Waihou Thumper]

Converted to 3 per page jpg's.

Green, go green, save a tree or three....:)
Nice one...:clap:

[cooneyr]

Green, go green, save a tree or three....:)
Nice one...:clap:

Printing the original PDF double sided works pretty well too. The two strips end up on the left side of the page so don't overlap each other.

Cheers R

[cooneyr]

If you want to pretend your are real Dakar rider get your high lighters out and mark up the roll chart. You could mark all of the instructions where the following instruction is less than 1km further on. I've put a little sign type symbol in the cell if the next one is less than a 1km away.

The other thing that everybody should take note of/mark up is the challenge loop. The challenge loop is cells 94 to 96 inclusive then jumps to cell 100 once back on the base route. The base route jumps from cell 93 to 97 then continues on.

Cheers R

[Racing Dave]

Thanks, Ryan, you've done some good work.

Roll on January...

[Crisis management]

Ok, dumb question time...what oil and tyres should I use?



Seriously, I'm looking at changing the rear and ideally want to run a Tourance (cause it's lying around the shed) as there is a lot of road kms between here and the DB, is that a sensible choice or not? If a knobbly is required I will stick another MT21 on.....sensible advice please!


Ta, Iain

[XF650]

Bloody hell Iain, this isn't the CCA thread - you won't get sensible advice here. To cover all bases just paint your tyre with diesel oil.

[NordieBoy]

To cover all bases just paint your tyre with diesel oil.

And now it'll degenerate into another "Which diesel oil should I paint my tyre with" thread.

Thanks :nono:

[cooneyr]

Ok, dumb question time...what oil and tyres should I use?



Seriously, I'm looking at changing the rear and ideally want to run a Tourance (cause it's lying around the shed) as there is a lot of road kms between here and the DB, is that a sensible choice or not? If a knobbly is required I will stick another MT21 on.....sensible advice please!


Ta, Iain

In the interests of informing all a Mitas E07 would be fine for the ride unless you plan on doing the challange loop which will require either a bit of pushing for up to 50m or a MT21/D606/E09. There are some other short boggy bits but the E07 will handle them.

The biggest risk is if it rains. About 200kms of the tracks are dirt which will become slippery if wet.

Safest bet is to stick on the tourance for the trip down and order yourself a E07/E09/knobblie of your choice in Chch that you pick up on the way down. Alternatively order and pay for a tyre and I'll collect the week before and trailer it down on the Friday.

Cheers R

[Crisis management]

Ok, that about sorts it out, MT21 going on and if it gets shagged on the way back north I'll pick up a new one in Wellington.....

Thanks for the offer Ryan but I suspect we will be squeaking time to get to the start so I won't introduce the possibility of a midnight tyre change.


As for you Mr Moore....you'll keep! :Pokey:

[XF650]

And now it'll degenerate into another "Which diesel oil should I paint my tyre with" thread.

Thanks :nono:

Isn't KTM oil just diesel oil anyway?

[Woodman]

D606 front and t63 rear here. Was gonna get e07ish tyres but worried i may forget they are on there.

[NordieBoy]

D606 front and t63 rear here. Was gonna get e07ish tyres but worried i may forget they are on there.

E-07 rear, knobbly front.

[JATZ]

Round and black on the back, same on the front, both have a bit of air in them, I think :scratch:
Works for me :niceone:

[XF650]

Round and black on the back, same on the front, both have a bit of air in them, I think :scratch:
Works for me :niceone:

That sort of attitude has got Tiger into a shit load of trouble.

[Waihou Thumper]

shod this week, me thinks it might be a tad too early as I still gotta use it for work.
Bit of a catch 22, as it is Christmas etc, the bike shop closes down. I need them to do this for me as I have a new wheel to fit. I know if I tried it myself it would be stuffed up and as I am using the bike for a bit of a trip south, it needs to be right!
I might wait a little longer and get it done at the last minute as they are a bit knobblier than usual..:)

[cooneyr]

Went over to the printers today and collected the DB1k 2010 run stickers. I've finally made them a nice KTM orange after a couple of years of requests, simply because I finally own one :msn-wink: The phone camera is making the color look a bit naff.

Cheers R

[Waihou Thumper]

Went over to the printers today and collected the DB1k 2010 run stickers. I've finally made them a nice KTM orange after a couple of years of requests, simply because I finally own one :msn-wink: The phone camera is making the color look a bit naff.

Cheers R

Oh, the 'doors and gates' you can open when you gotta KTM...:whistle:

[Woodman]

Oh, the 'doors and gates' you can open when you gotta a KTM...:whistle:

I thought that ktm riders expect everyone else to open the gates for them.

[Waihou Thumper]

I thought that ktm riders expect everyone else to open the gates for them.

Surely that can't be right? :girlfight:
Only Eddie might as he has a long way to climb down....:2thumbsup

[Eddieb]

Surely that can't be right? :girlfight:
Only Eddie might as he has a long way to climb down....:2thumbsup


As well as trainer wheels I might have to get some thicker soles ;)

[cooneyr]

I thought that ktm riders expect everyone else to open the gates for them.

Na - we are so fast that we have to do something while waiting for others to catch up :bleh:

[.chris]

Na - we are so fast that we have to do something while waiting for others to catch up :bleh:

You will probably find me hanging around gates helping keep them open and the likes, anything for a rest from the seat :dodge:

Just tested the bike with all the luggage fully loaded, looks comfortable!
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Not bad since that will be all the gear I need (read have) for my trip, which will be over 2 months, and include Auck to welly, upper south then a bit of local stuff around south cant, the DB, then maybe the ADV Rally which is mid feb, then back northbound.

Experienced tour riders, what will I have forgotten to pack?

[Ally67]

Experienced tour riders, what will I have forgotten to pack?

Looks good but I think theres still some room on the back for the BBQ :laugh:

[Underground]

I never leave home without a credit card and a sense of humour ,dont take up much room and they always come in handy.

[Woodman]

mrs Woodman can't believe that I have started packing already. Just doesn't understand that loading a bike is different to the car. Mind you me not being an experienced tourer I still aren't quite sure what to and what not to take.

[Racing Dave]

Went over to the printers today and collected the DB1k 2010 run stickers. I've finally made them a nice KTM orange after a couple of years of requests, simply because I finally own one

Cheers R

Hi Ryan,

What's the plan? Are they for sale?

Cheers,
Dave B

[Transalper]

We normally buy them at the Friday evening BBQ/gathering/thing where I think we'll also get the low down on paying the Black Forrest toll, gate padlock combination and any other small details as such etc.

[cooneyr]

We normally buy them at the Friday evening BBQ/gathering/thing where I think we'll also get the low down on paying the Black Forrest toll, gate padlock combination and any other small details as such etc.

Thats the one. Perfect opportunity for me to remind everybody of some costs of the ride.

Stickers are $5 each
Black forest toll is $10 each bike. I'll be collecting this on the Friday night and dropping it in on my way through on Saturday before the main bunch arrives.

I'll be holding an informal briefing at the BBQ around 7pm ish and will confirm the Black Forest padlock combo then.

Cheers R

P.S. Those packing already - less is more! I'm sure most take way to much! Also squash the air out of dry bags before doing them up.

[cynna]

dont pack any bourbon or v cans. i had 4 or 5 burst on the dusty prerun. wrapping all my gear in plastic bags paid off tho....

[JATZ]

mrs Woodman can't believe that I have started packing already. Just doesn't understand that loading a bike is different to the car. Mind you me not being an experienced tourer I still aren't quite sure what to and what not to take.

FFS..... packing already ?
We'll wait till the night before we leave I think :2thumbsup
and then have to borrow all the shit we forget :gob:

[NordieBoy]

FFS..... packing already ?
We'll wait till the night before we leave I think :2thumbsup
and then have to borrow all the shit we forget :gob:

Like me stopping off on the way to Reefton and borrowing a sleeping bag :2thumbsup
I'd remembered the tent...

[Waihou Thumper]

On Blue Bridge ferries...
Totally transferrable, I have to do the booking apparently, because the reference belongs to the original ticket etc...
Any date available for the next 6 months, Wellington-Picton return, or I guess the other way...I just need your details, bike reg etc, name and all of that, but we can sort it out...
Good for the CCA you guys coming from the South...
I got it for $200, so if anyone wants let me know please...
I cannot see me using it, not in the immediate future anyway...

Due to unforseen circumstances, I can't make it south this coming Jan...:( Please PM me if you want it anybody, Ta...
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[thepom]

I ll be carrying a couple of casks of cheap red wine,spare skiddies for when I shit myself and a bin bag instead of a sleeping bag!!!...anything else I might need?.....:weep:

[thepom]

What can be so unforeseen that you can,t make the ride?......you,ve been just about everywhere so far...:2thumbsup

[JATZ]

:Oi: YOU CAN'T PULL OUT.....:weep:

I was lookin forward to riding with another Big, and I woulda shown you that blue ones were betterer :Pokey:

[_Shrek_]

I'll be holding an informal briefing at the BBQ around 7pm ish and will confirm the Black Forest padlock combo then.

hey R I've not been following the thread & not sure it you're going over the Nevis, I went over today 2up :sweatdrop: & the water xings were 1/2 mtr average & there were 25 of them, if there has been rain up there in the last few days the xings are high, so if you are doing this part would pay to check a couple days before

but a must to do when ya can :woohoo:

cheers :apint:
K

[Transalper]

Not doing the wet end of the Nevis.
The ADV route site has the up-to-date map, roll chart etc.

[.chris]

P.S. Those packing already - less is more! I'm sure most take way to much! Also squash the air out of dry bags before doing them up.

I can offer a secure place for people to dump their un-needed gear for the duration of the DB (in my Dad's workshop).

If you need it just let me know and I can organise a time fri night/sat am for you to leave your gear there.

[mattsdakar]

And where would this workshop be? Fairlie I presume?

[.chris]

And where would this workshop be? Fairlie I presume?

Yes, the workshop is in Fairlie, behind the petrol station on the main street.

[NordieBoy]

Yes, the workshop is in Fairlie, behind the petrol station on the main street.

Cool :scooter:

[Woodman]

cheers the workshop gear leaving idea sounds good to me . Was gonna leave it at the pub.

[cooneyr]

Hi Guys and Gals. The GPS files are now available from my website (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/db1kssi.html). Let me know if there are any issues

The whole route is too long to have one GPS route file so it is in parts. There are two options one for older GPS units and one for newer GPS units. All pretty obvious but the part that is labelled X is the Challenge loop.

Cheers R

[Crisis management]

Hi Guys and Gals. The GPS files are now available from my website (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/db1kssi.html). Let me know if there are any issues


All loaded well.......plus a few more of the website, thanks Ryan.


I just need to figure out where the south island is now, can you see it from the Bombays?

[NordieBoy]

I just need to figure out where the south island is now, can you see it from the Bombays?

It's that small one just below Rangitoto isn't it?

[Crisis management]

It's that small one just below Rangitoto isn't it?

Geez Nordie, your geography is shocking, Rangitoto is north of the bombays!

[cooneyr]

All loaded well.......plus a few more of the website, thanks Ryan.


I just need to figure out where the south island is now, can you see it from the Bombays?

Cool - good to know the site is being used ;)

I'm sure you can see the SI from the Bombays - if your about 5000m above them :whistle:

Cheers R

[.chris]

Due to unforseen circumstances, I can't make it south this coming Jan...:(

Stink one man! A shame you are not coming anymore.

[Waihou Thumper]

Stink one man! A shame you are not coming anymore.

I am bummed too, I had it all set up, really looking forward to it.
I can make it later on in the month, so will head down with Joe. We plan on hitting the top of the south, so I have to make a route with frequent pit stops for photo taking and more importantly, gas....for the Katoom!
I get to make use of the ferry booking now...:)

[JATZ]

I am bummed too, I had it all set up, really looking forward to it.
I can make it later on in the month, so will head down with Joe. We plan on hitting the top of the south, so I have to make a route with frequent pit stops for photo taking and more importantly, gas....for the Katoom!
I get to make use of the ferry booking now...:)

That sounds betterer :2thumbsup might get to ride with another Big after all :headbang:
I was s'posed to be going back to work on the Monday but I may take another day, just to make sure you leave the island :shutup:

[mattsdakar]

Okay when is everyone heading down to Fairlie?
Alf and I intend leaving Christchurch about midday Friday and permission pending hopefully taking an offroad excursion thru the Orari River Gorge past Lake Opuha to Fairlie, anyone interested in joining us?

[.chris]

Okay when is everyone heading down to Fairlie?
Alf and I intend leaving Christchurch about midday Friday and permission pending hopefully taking an offroad excursion thru the Orari River Gorge past Lake Opuha to Fairlie, anyone interested in joining us?

I will be in fairlie about a week prior, and may be keen to come through and meet you guys for a whip through the Orari.

[Woodman]

Okay when is everyone heading down to Fairlie?
Alf and I intend leaving Christchurch about midday Friday and permission pending hopefully taking an offroad excursion thru the Orari River Gorge past Lake Opuha to Fairlie, anyone interested in joining us?

keep me posted as i haven't decided on a route yet. Cheers

[Waihou Thumper]

keep me posted as i haven't decided on a route yet. Cheers

I may be coming afterall..:)
Thing is, it will be a ferry on the 15th morning, or 14th if I can manage it.
I will have to zap home North on the Monday night ferry...
I guess it can be done no problems..:) It will be worth it I am sure....

[Aslan]

gidday all - this old fart intends leaving Picton noon ish on the Thursday 14 and taking a leisurely ride down to be in Fairlie on the Friday evening. For the return I'm crossing back to the North Island on Monday 18/1 - needing to be at Picton by 5pm - a long haul on the Monday - especially on my DR - Ciao Aslan :niceone:

[JATZ]

We're now heading down through the Rainbow on the 14, maybe stop in Chch or thereabouts on thurs night (any and all offers of a bed will be considered except you T.A, I've seen your flat :msn-wink:) and get to Fairlie mid afternoon Fri. Gives us a bit of time to chew the fat and have a beer or 2
Don't know whats happening after the D.B. though, depends how we feel

[Waihou Thumper]

We're now heading down through the Rainbow on the 14, maybe stop in Chch or thereabouts on thurs night and get to Fairlie mid afternoon Fri. Gives us a bit of time to chew the fat and have a beer or 2
Don't know whats happening after though, depends how we feel

Looks as though I will be on the late ferry 14th, so will be travelling down the 15th morning, really frikkin early....(I hope that Cafe near Kaikoura is still there that does wicked fry ups..:)...) I could be in CHCH mid morn I guess, pending a zzz on the side of the road..:)

[XF650]

After the DB there are a few of us looking to ride north via Lyndon Rd, Lees Valley, Molesworth or Rainbow etc. Yell out at the event if you want to hook up for this.

[Transalper]

....except you T.A, I've seen your flat :msn-wink:) ....
lol, yep, if only I had one more room to call a spare.

[Aslan]

After the DB there are a few of us looking to ride north via Lyndon Rd, Lees Valley, Molesworth or Rainbow etc. Yell out at the event if you want to hook up for this.

Struan - I may attempt to hook up with you as I've just changed my return sailing to Tuesday 19/1 - need to be at Picton by 5pm - cheers S :2thumbsup

[Aslan]

We're now heading down through the Rainbow on the 14, maybe stop in Chch or thereabouts on thurs night (any and all offers of a bed will be considered except you T.A, I've seen your flat :msn-wink:) and get to Fairlie mid afternoon Fri. Gives us a bit of time to chew the fat and have a beer or 2
Don't know whats happening after the D.B. though, depends how we feel

Gidday James et al - I'm thinking of coming through the Rainbow or the Molesworth on my way South on Thursday 14. Prolly leaving Picton around noon on the Thursday - will head South as far as I can comfortably before nightfall and attmepting to make sure the ride on Friday (to Fairlie) is not too big a day.

Ciao Aslan :2thumbsup

[alane]

In Fairley ----on Fri. night. If someone had a spare perch in their cabin for an old fella who doesn't cough ,snore, fart, drink, smoke or sleep walk(too much any way).:laugh: It would be great to save putting a tent up and packing up early saturday morning. Top ten cabin's are all booked out (you buggers must have taken them) I have emailed them to check. Maybe there is a spare bed in one of the booked cabins though ,that I could use.

PM me if you have one available.:2thumbsup
Hitting the South Island on the 12th @ 5.15pm.:2thumbsup Though I would do port underwood road and Molesworth.
1. Any susgetions for good camping sites that can be reached before dark
2. How hard and how much time required for the Black Birch track to Mt Altimarlock. Also where do I turn on to it?:(

Have a whole day to get to my Daughthers in Christchurch though I would check out Lake Summer or Lees Valley. Advice Welcome?:niceone:
:drinknsin---Al.

[JATZ]

2. How hard and how much time required for the Black Birch track to Mt Altimarlock. Also where do I turn on to it?:(


Kind of hard to describe the entrance..... it has a private property sign on the gate, ignore.No doubt someone will put a google map up for you, or look at CooneyR's advroutes website

[alane]

Kind of hard to describe the entrance..... it has a private property sign on the gate, ignore.No doubt someone will put a google map up for you, or look at CooneyR's advroutes website

O.K. TAA!!!!!!!:cool:

[helenoftroy]

In Fairley ----on Fri. night. If someone had a spare perch in their cabin for an old fella who doesn't cough ,snore, fart, drink, smoke or sleep walk(too much any way).:laugh: It would be great to save putting a tent up and packing up early saturday morning. Top ten cabin's are all booked out (you buggers must have taken them) I have emailed them to check. Maybe there is a spare bed in one of the booked cabins though ,that I could use.

PM me if you have one available.:2thumbsup
Hitting the South Island on the 12th @ 5.15pm.:2thumbsup Though I would do port underwood road and Molesworth.
1. Any susgetions for good camping sites that can be reached before dark
2. How hard and how much time required for the Black Birch track to Mt Altimarlock. Also where do I turn on to it?:(

Have a whole day to get to my Daughthers in Christchurch though I would check out Lake Summer or Lees Valley. Advice Welcome?:niceone:
:drinknsin---Al.

PM sent!still beds where we are staying in Fairlie:2thumbsup

[cooneyr]

2. How hard and how much time required for the Black Birch track to Mt Altimarlock. Also where do I turn on to it?:(

When on the seal at the northern end of the Molesworth (from SH1 or Taylors Pass) you turn right through a gate (normal gate not deer fence gate) at the point where the seal ends. There other patches of seal further south but just look for the first bit of gravel. It had a "Private Property - No Entry" sign but that is bollocks. The roll chart (here (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/db1knsi/Dusty%20Butt%20V4nsi.pdf)) for the original route has the details. The turn is 18.6km from the Taylors Pass intersection.

The track up the hill is pretty obvious - it is the most used one.

Another though - zoom in to the map on this page (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/db1knsi.html) and you can see the route over aerials if you want or download the KML file and open it in google earth, or better still if you have a GPS download the GPS file for the original route.

Cheers R

[alane]

COONEYR---------YOU DA MAN!!!!!!!:2thumbsup :2thumbsup :2thumbsup

[NordieBoy]

Bugger.

Looks like I'm not going to be doing the DB this year.
Can't afford the time off after xmas/new year :(

Instead it looks like the CCA will be all go :woohoo:

[Aslan]

Bugger.

Looks like I'm not going to be doing the DB this year.
Can't afford the time off after xmas/new year :(

Instead it looks like the CCA will be all go :woohoo:

Sorry to hear this Fran - was looking forward to catching up with you - cheers Aslan :banana:

[Padmei]

Bugger.

Looks like I'm not going to be doing the DB this year.
Can't afford the time off after xmas/new year :(

Instead it looks like the CCA will be all go :woohoo:

But hang on - I've never seen you working. Riding around yes- working no

[zeRax]

mounted hid spotlight to my head, errr, to my helmet !, holy farking daylight batman :P, very versatile light power now :X dont worry i put in a switch~, try not to blind your faces off!~

[NordieBoy]

But hang on - I've never seen you working. Riding around yes- working no

Sssssshhhhhhhh!

:whistle:

Riding around and playing with computers is working.

Really!

[zeRax]

sounds like half work half play to me :P


Sssssshhhhhhhh!

:whistle:

Riding around and playing with computers is working.

Really!

[cooneyr]

Hi All,

I've just realised that as Nordie is unfortunatly not going to join us but rather be a nerd and work over the DB1k, there is one spare bed at the Gladstone pub in Fairlie. First to PM me that they would like the bed has it. $35 BnB with breakfast at 6.30am.

Cheers R

[umopom]

Hi Cooneyr
I already have a place at the Gladstone for the Friday but can you add me to the list for the Alex Holiday park on the Sat night.
Thanks
John

[umopom]

Hi Mattsdakar
That sounds good count me in - was going to leave Chch earlier in the day but would be keen to see the Orari.
Cheers John




Okay when is everyone heading down to Fairlie?
Alf and I intend leaving Christchurch about midday Friday and permission pending hopefully taking an offroad excursion thru the Orari River Gorge past Lake Opuha to Fairlie, anyone interested in joining us?

[alane]

Hi All,

I've just realised that as Nordie is unfortunatly not going to join us but rather be a nerd and work over the DB1k, there is one spare bed at the Gladstone pub in Fairlie. First to PM me that they would like the bed has it. $35 BnB with breakfast at 6.30am.

Cheers R

I,m goinforit. :2thumbsup

[alane]

[QUOTE=cooneyr;1129594038]Hi All,

I've just realised that as Nordie is unfortunatly not going to join us but rather be a nerd and work over the DB1k, there is one spare bed at the Gladstone pub in Fairlie. First to PM me that they would like the bed has it. $35 BnB with breakfast at 6.30am.

Cheers R.

:nono:Now going to Lambrook farm----see PM.
SORRY AL.

Open to anyone again.:niceone:

[helenoftroy]

Incredibly sad to have to say....but Im out too,but am hoping to keep Queenofthehobbit(timgs wife)company in the sweeper vehicle

Have severe Carpel Tunnel Syndrome that requires surgery.

[Aslan]

Incredibly sad to have to say....but Im out too,but am hoping to keep Queenofthehobbit(timgs wife)company in the sweeper vehicle

Have severe Carpel Tunnel Syndrome that requires surgery.

that's a bummer - look fwd to seeing you on sweep duties Helen

[cooneyr]

Hi Cooneyr
I already have a place at the Gladstone for the Friday but can you add me to the list for the Alex Holiday park on the Sat night.
Thanks
John

Done.

Three more spaces have become availalbe at the Gladstone, giving a total of four spaces, if anybody wants them.

Cheers R

[cold comfort]

Incredibly sad to have to say....but Im out too,but am hoping to keep Queenofthehobbit(timgs wife)company in the sweeper vehicle

Have severe Carpel Tunnel Syndrome that requires surgery.

That is incredibly sad H! Was looking forward to riding with you. That must have been a bitch on the Kopara trip. Hope you can get it sorted real soon.

[cooneyr]

I've had a couple of people comment that when use they chose the "follow road" option on their GPS after selecting "navigate" for the DB1k route, the GPS complains that it can only use a 50 point route. Please do not choose the "follow road" option but rather the "off road" option. This allows the GPS to use as route file with as many points as it can handle (normally 250 points but 50 points on some older models).

The "follow road" option is designed for use with auto routing maps so does not need as many points. Problem with this is that there are no roads in the auto routing maps for much of the DB1k route. I have put enough strategically located points in the route files so that you can use the "off road" option and you should not get lost;)

If anybody is still having problems with the route file, feel free to ask me more questions and/or to bring your GPS and a USB cable to the BBQ. There will be a laptop available with the route files loaded and I'll do my best to get your GPS working.

Cheers R

[Waihou Thumper]

Thanks for that Ryan. I guess at present it shows errors beacuse it is trying to plot a course across the Cook Strait for me. I will see what happens when I land on the Mainland.

[cooneyr]

Hi All. I've just rung all the land owners who's property we pass through and the Gladstone and Alex accommodation to check they are all good to go, which they are. There are two more bits of info that everybody needs to know


The BBQ at the Gladstone Pub is at 6pm - $10pp (though you all knew that already right!)
You need to give me $10 at the BBQ for access to various tracks. Two $5 would be preferred as I have to deliver $5 per bike to two farms.


11 sleeps to go!!! :2thumbsup

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

Thanks for that Ryan. I guess at present it shows errors beacuse it is trying to plot a course across the Cook Strait for me. I will see what happens when I land on the Mainland.

Actually the OpenGPS guys did that on purpose. You'll notice it follows the ferry route.

[andy mac]

Gidday James et al - I'm thinking of coming through the Rainbow or the Molesworth on my way South on Thursday 14. Prolly leaving Picton around noon on the Thursday - will head South as far as I can comfortably before nightfall and attmepting to make sure the ride on Friday (to Fairlie) is not too big a day.

Ciao Aslan :2thumbsup

Hi Aslan, are you riding the beemer or the little 650?

[cold comfort]

Re Storage- Due to having minimal luggage capacity, and wanting gear before and after the ride, i would prefer to trailer the bike to Fairlie and return. So, is there anywhere "safe" i could park my car and bike trailer for the weekend in Fairlie?? Not being a "hard-arse" the car seat will be a welcome sight after 1000k on a 4x2! Where did you get the seat mod done Nordie btw?

[cooneyr]

Re Storage- Due to having minimal luggage capacity, and wanting gear before and after the ride, i would prefer to trailer the bike to Fairlie and return. So, is there anywhere "safe" i could park my car and bike trailer for the weekend in Fairlie?? Not being a "hard-arse" the car seat will be a welcome sight after 1000k on a 4x2! Where did you get the seat mod done Nordie btw?

c.h.r.i.s.'s old man may be able to help but this is fairlie so pretty much any place should be safe! You could probably leave your car in the Gladstone pub carpark (round the back). It is large enough we use to park 4 trucks and trailers and a couple of runabouts there when I worked in one of Fulton Hogan's chipsealing gangs.

Cheers R


I can offer a secure place for people to dump their un-needed gear for the duration of the DB (in my Dad's workshop).

If you need it just let me know and I can organise a time fri night/sat am for you to leave your gear there.


Yes, the workshop is in Fairlie, behind the petrol station on the main street.

[Aslan]

Hi Aslan, are you riding the beemer or the little 650?

Andy - I've wimped out and am taking the little DR given the % of gravel - I find the 1150 can be a handful in the deep 'windrows' around the McKenzie country and I feel more comfortable on the lighter bike in such conditions.

As to travel - I'll riding through Molesworth or Rainbow (the latter, if i get a 'buddy') leaving Picton between 11.30 & noon on the Thursday before the event.

Cheers Aslan

[cold comfort]

I can offer a secure place for people to dump their un-needed gear for the duration of the DB (in my Dad's workshop).

If you need it just let me know and I can organise a time fri night/sat am for you to leave your gear there.

As posted today i would appreciate somewhere to park my car and trailer for the weekend -is that do-able?

[Waihou Thumper]

I cut up the Road Book today and put it into the lunch box....It sure is small,:2thumbsup I mean not many legs. This must mean there is a shit load of riding before turning....That's great! :)
I also found out that for the Dakar 2010, the GPS is only used for the last 3Km of each stage, the ride still has to be done by the road books. The beacons are turned on and they can find the waypoint home ONLY for the last 3Km....;)
So, using a Road Book in my mind is a sound way of navigating and having the GPS as the back up is prudent too....:)
Ryan, turn off the beacons...lol

[Transalper]

I've made a GPS file with just numbered waypoints at the places that correspond with most the roll chart cells.
I'll probably nav with a combo of mostly the chart and a bit of double checking via the GPS.

[JATZ]

I've made a GPS file with just numbered waypoints at the places that correspond with most the roll chart cells.
I'll probably nav with a combo of mostly the chart and a bit of double checking via the GPS.

And I'll navigate by following your dust trail T.A. :D

[Transalper]

If I take my camera gear then maybe I should be looking at mounting it backwards at you then :laugh:
Pays to have someone in the frame most of the time as a point of interest, to give the video some perspective and a little life.

[Waihou Thumper]

I will be mounting my camera at the back as well. If anyone wants to be behind me and compete for an Academy Award, I will capture it! I will also have it on my helmet and the obligatory Possum Cam - Front Mudguard

[Transalper]

Nice to have cut scenes to use.
Unfortunately mine isn't a self contained unit (I remember the conversation about your purchase) and so is rather stuck firmly in one place... on my helmet near the top of my backpack to which it is attached by wires to the contents of said backpack.

I've got a bit keen on trying to get back to the Capital Coast for this year so can't go buying any new stuff anytime soon.

[Waihou Thumper]

Yes, this is cool as I can move it around, mount it in a different place. I get home, play around with the editing, paste in music and go from there. I have found the best position is the helmet or goggle strap.
The rear vibrates a little, the front has the big DR beak gettin' in the way, the only real hard footage that is steady is the 'swede'....Me! :)

[mattsdakar]

RE: Orari Gorge detour
For those who are interested...
I have made arrangements with the two neighbouring properties to gain access thru the Orari Gorge 4x4 track from near Geraldine to Fairlie on Friday.
If you are interested send me a pm (to keep track of numbers) the cost is $10pp payable to farmer and we willl meet at Caltex Russley cnr Yaldhurst/Russley rds for a 10:00am departure
(umopom & thepom are already on the list)

[Underground]

We've got 1 spare bed for the two nights at Fairlie farm cottages and 1 night at Alex holliday park .
If anyones interested PM me .

[_Shrek_]

I will be around central on this weekend might even join you if i can,

I have a 19" front & a 17" rear Eo9's used, but will get you home & finished should you blow a tyre, & the gear to chage etc...

if I don't cya's have a great week end

cheers :apint:

[Woodman]

RE: Orari Gorge detour
For those who are interested...
I have made arrangements with the two neighbouring properties to gain access thru the Orari Gorge 4x4 track from near Geraldine to Fairlie on Friday.
If you are interested send me a pm (to keep track of numbers) the cost is $10pp payable to farmer and we willl meet at Caltex Russley cnr Yaldhurst/Russley rds for a 10:00am departure
(umopom & thepom are already on the list)

right, decided on me route now. Gonna go through Molesworth on Thursday and stay in hanmer depending on what time I get there. How long does it take to get up Altimarloch and back down again?

Will meet you guys at Caltex Russley at 10. Woohoo.

PM sent.

[thepom]

Hey matt,I can,t get a start that early as I am working but finish at 11 30,maybe I can try and catch up with you lot......

[Waihou Thumper]

Are you planning to be the watercarrier then Shrek? We can strip your bike of parts, bolts, washers to get us home...:2thumbsup Thanks mate...:)

[mattsdakar]

right, decided on me route now. Gonna go through Molesworth on Thursday and stay in hanmer depending on what time I get there. How long does it take to get up Altimarloch and back down again?

Will meet you guys at Caltex Russley at 10. Woohoo.

PM sent.

I'd allow 45mins round trip up Altimarloch, watch for wind gusts. It's well worth the effort, it's a great track and the views are fantastic. See you at the Caltex

[Waihou Thumper]

Is it worth entering the Molesworth from Taylors Pass Rd? The road looks like a curly one from Renwick end. The side trip is something I would like to to up Altimarloch. Both Aslan and I will be crusing this area Thursday arfternoon, quite possibly we might run into each other somewhere...So, keep to the left..:)


I'd allow 45mins round trip up Altimarloch, watch for wind gusts. It's well worth the effort, it's a great track and the views are fantastic. See you at the Caltex

[mattsdakar]

Is it worth entering the Molesworth from Taylors Pass Rd? The road looks like a curly one from Renwick end. The side trip is something I would like to to up Altimarloch. Both Aslan and I will be crusing this area Thursday arfternoon, quite possibly we might run into each other somewhere...So, keep to the left..:)
.
Definitely go over Taylors Pass rd, it's a well maintained gravel rd that is a great ride and is also a lot more direct into the Molesworth valley

[Waihou Thumper]

Many thanks..will do then...:)
.
Definitely go over Taylors Pass rd, it's a well maintained gravel rd that is a great ride and is also a lot more direct into the Molesworth valley

[Underground]

right, decided on me route now. Gonna go through Molesworth on Thursday

No you havent , You're going via Rainbow with Mountie and myself to Chch !
Anyone else keen to head through that way leaving Nelson am ? we have a support vehicle to chuck gear in ...pm me

[Aslan]

being a somewhat slow 'senior' I'm just catching up with this flurry of activity - happy to ride either Rainbow or Molesworth - alone or with Mark aka NZKTM and anyone else on the proviso I don't get into Picton till 11.30am earliest so reallistically expect to leave Picton noon Thursday.

I salute MattsDakar for initiating Orari Gorge excursion on Fri and would like to be part of that. I'm unsure how far I'll get on Thursday evening and prior to MattsDakar's initiative I was planning on riding via Lake Lyndon Road out to Methven.

Getting excited - a 60 something year old big kid - cheers all Aslan

[dino3310]

Getting excited - a 60 something year old big kid - cheers all Aslan

or just the enthusiasum of two 30yr olds :2thumbsup

[cooneyr]

The weather forecasts are just starting to get long enought now. It looks like there will be a bit of rain on Thursday morning but clearing by Friday and the Saturday and Sunday will OK overcast but dry. This would be perfect for the Dusty in that it might no be so Dusty :scratch:

Forecasts I'm watching are Metview (http://www.metvuw.com/forecast/forecast.php?type=rain&region=nzsi&noofdays=7), Metservice Canty Plains (http://www.metservice.co.nz/rural/canterbury-plains) and Metservice Central Otago (http://www.metservice.co.nz/rural/central-otago). I trust Metvuw more hence my prediction as Metservice is predicting sunny Thursday, showers Friday and Satruday and sunny Sunday. Fingers crossed Metvuw is right!

Cheers R

[JATZ]

No you havent , You're going via Rainbow with Mountie and myself to Chch !
Anyone else keen to head through that way leaving Nelson am ? we have a support vehicle to chuck gear in ...pm me

The 3 of us will be leaving Mot about 9, after a liesurely breakfast of croissants and coffee on the deck, heading through the Rainbow, I figure we'll be there about 10:30

[cold comfort]

"The weather forecasts are just starting to get long enought now. It looks like there will be a bit of rain on Thursday morning but clearing by Friday and the Saturday and Sunday will OK overcast but dry. This would be perfect for the Dusty in that it might no be so Dusty"

Good call there. I have found metvu to quite accurate last outing (where i got drowned and windblasted). Hopefully they will be on the money this time...

[helenoftroy]

Those of you staying at Lambrock Farm Cottages,please could you flick me a PM if you would like linen supplied($5 extra)

I can then let them know....

[Woodman]

No you havent , You're going via Rainbow with Mountie and myself to Chch !
Anyone else keen to head through that way leaving Nelson am ? we have a support vehicle to chuck gear in ...pm me

Oh ok then you twisted me arm. You decide on a time to meet in Richmond and I will see you there. I will pm too.

[Transalper]

Well, this time next week aye, we'll be into it.
Suppose I better start the bike prep too.
Change tyres, check oil, brake pads, chain, sprockets, cable fray etc.
Just printing the roll chart now.

[Waihou Thumper]

Yes, get into it...:)
I did my oil and filter this morning. The clutch cable is a brand newie, the bags are packed and I have prepared a couple fo TV dinners for the ride down. The roll chart is in the 'click clack' and the route is one the GPS too.
I got two new Heidenau tyres not scrubbed in yet, but these will be fine by the time I hit the roads south. New sprockets front and rear and the original wheel back on the bike and looking good. The cush rubbers a little worn is all and these will be replaced sometime soon. I am really looking forward to this as it is my first time in the South Island on the back of a motorbike!

[thepom]

Better check you have tire repair kit as I don,t ha ha don,t go too fast and I ll try to keep up as I have no roll chart or gps so I ll need to follow some one as I don,t think I can keep up with cynna......

[Waihou Thumper]

Come on man, get organised....Print out a roll chart and buy a tupperware container...:)

[Transalper]

Geez Kenny.
I was going tio say Cynna is easy to keep up with, or catch up to. I've seen him stop once or twice on a trip to lie down and wait. Then again you might not catch up as you can't catch up when lying down on the job yourself. lol.

[umopom]

Would have been good to catch up with you guys on the Thursday but I'm already in Chch - will you be able to do Matt's Orari loop on the Friday?
Cheers
JC



No you havent , You're going via Rainbow with Mountie and myself to Chch !
Anyone else keen to head through that way leaving Nelson am ? we have a support vehicle to chuck gear in ...pm me

[cynna]

you will be able to keep up kenny - im just worried about how im going to keep up with matt on orari ride

practiced falling off in a puddle at the waimak today so hopefully thats my last crash for the next week or so

the roll chart holder is easy enough to make. i just got a click clack type pottle from the supermarket, a couple of long bolts as rollers, drilled a few holes and cable tied it on

[Transalper]

Hey, we could play a new game... lead Kenny in to the middle of no where then loose him.

Oh now that's just mean.

You know you'll be fine as most the two dayers seem to ride as a group anyway.

[mattsdakar]

Lets call it "Who killed Kenny" !

[Woodman]

I spent ages looking for a container the right size. Found one but its a bit big then spent a wee while making the rolly bits out of an old alloy footpeg and a guitar string tightener thingy to turn it. needs more work so will either make a simplerer one or just follow the fast guys tracks.

[Transalper]

Drill some holes in container, stuck 8mm dowel through. Slightly drill then glue drawer knobs on to one end of dowel and simply taped each side to stop dowel falling out the holes.
Also added some tent pegs cut with straws over to make rolling easier.
The whole thing is friction based to stop it unwinding so I roll the bottom roller to give slack to the chart then roll the top roller to move the chart on.
Tieing the two knobs together didn't work for me no matter how I did it as one end always has more of the roll on than the other. Feel like this has all been typed before.
It's my mk1 holder been with me since the first roll chart adventure years ago.
Note: tape the lid on of loose it sooner or later.

Container size shouldn't be too hard to find. I know they don't do the best sized click clacks anymore but surely you could get anything the right size and tape on a home made perspex lid.

[cynna]

my container was a bit on the large size but it did the job

[topo]

I gues i went a bit overboardhttp://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn175/topo-t-south/ktm%20build/PC120003.jpg

getting the motor to work properly took some sorting:yes:

Had to remove the rear tanks today as the fuel pump i've got won't do the job, a few extra stops prob won't hurt anyway in the scheme of things.
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn175/topo-t-south/ktm%20build/PC120009.jpg

[Underground]

Damn thats a flash lunch box Topo ! plastic ones not good enough for you ?
Oh , nice center stand too , do you carry that on the back ? :innocent:

[topo]

Stand stays in Fairlie - you only need a stand if you stop moving:rockon:

How's you custom remotely opperated gate opener going? worked out the bugs yet?:shutup:

[alane]

Well, this time next week aye, we'll be into it.
Suppose I better start the bike prep too.
Change tyres, check oil, brake pads, chain, sprockets, cable fray etc.
Just printing the roll chart now.

BUGGER!!!-----Changed the oil in the ole> XT ---------and------------guess what,-----------------one of the oil filter cover bolts stripped out.It was only after--- I remembered-- it felt a bit "soft" last time.:oi-grr:
Anyway ----the genius in me took over ,I cut a battery clamp bolt ,welded a nut on,up from the threaded end, so it was a bit longer than the original,and luckily there was enough good thread left for it to thread in again.Will do untill I Helecoil it.
For my Roll chart box knobs,I found if you take the guts out of water bottle caps ,they just fit over the 12mm (I think) wooden axles I used. I used a "SYSTEMA" split 1 litre box.:niceone:
CHEERS AL.

[helenoftroy]

Geez Kenny.
I was going tio say Cynna is easy to keep up with, or catch up to. I've seen him stop once or twice on a trip to lie down and wait. Then again you might not catch up as you can't catch up when lying down on the job yourself. lol.
Well at least the Queen of the lie-downs wont be getting in anyones way -this time!!:Oops:

[cooneyr]

Important Notice - High Fire Risk

The word is that there is a high fire risk down in Central Otago at present. Please all check that you have a spark arrestor fitted if you can. Also all of you who have fire extinguishers please bring them with you. If you dont have a fire extinguisher please try and get one.

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The blue 450g aerosol ABC type came from Fitness Hire (member razzel1 on TradeMe). The red 'Fire Exit' and the TUNDRA Fire Suppressant are available in Mitre 10, Mega, Placemakers, Bunnings and Briscoes stores. All are $20 - $25. (text and image stolen from 4skins CCA website).

If you are planning on doing the CCA then you must have one of these so why not get it now - said like a true sales man ;)

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

I spent ages looking for a container the right size. Found one but its a bit big then spent a wee while making the rolly bits out of an old alloy footpeg and a guitar string tightener thingy to turn it. needs more work so will either make a simplerer one or just follow the fast guys tracks.

You can use my little one if you want.
It's already got the chart in it.

[Waihou Thumper]

Forgive me if this is a silly question. As the route stands with the waypoints A1-A...whatever. I can load this into my GPS. I have done this, so have the route for the weekend. My question is this Nordie or Ryan please....
When I get going on the Saturday, will the GPS calculate for me using "off road" and retain all the waypoints and give me the turns etc as normal?
OR, do I use Mapsource replot the route as far as I can, let it calculate and then resave it as the DB2010? The thing is, it works well until A65, then we head off road, then I can re-join the route at A68 and then continue. It happens a few times as we are heading off track, then rejoining the roads further along...
I have the roadbook and sort of want to match that to my GPS...

[Woodman]

You can use my little one if you want.
It's already got the chart in it.
Cheers Fran , I will take you up on that. When will you be home tomorrow (monday) ?and I will come and grab it.

[NordieBoy]

Forgive me if this is a silly question. As the route stands with the waypoints A1-A...whatever. I can load this into my GPS. I have done this, so have the route for the weekend. My question is this Nordie or Ryan please....
When I get going on the Saturday, will the GPS calculate for me using "off road" and retain all the waypoints and give me the turns etc as normal?
OR, do I use Mapsource replot the route as far as I can, let it calculate and then resave it as the DB2010? The thing is, it works well until A65, then we head off road, then I can re-join the route at A68 and then continue. It happens a few times as we are heading off track, then rejoining the roads further along...
I have the roadbook and sort of want to match that to my GPS...
Turn route recalculation off on the GPS.

[NordieBoy]

Cheers Fran , I will take you up on that. When will you be home tomorrow (monday) ?and I will come and grab it.

Should be home from 5pm.

[Transalper]

Forgive me if this is a silly question. As the route stands with the waypoints A1-A...whatever. I can load this into my GPS. I have done this, so have the route for the weekend. My question is this Nordie or Ryan please....
When I get going on the Saturday, will the GPS calculate for me using "off road" and retain all the waypoints and give me the turns etc as normal?....
You are making it harder than it is.
If you have the gps set to use "off road calculation" or set to ask you what method to use at which point you choose to use off road calculation then you're done.
Non of this recalculation or reloading in to mapsource or anything.
The lines are guides and go straight from point to point. You will never get them to wiggle along the roads using 'off road' setting without exceeding the gps number of points limit.

If you are trying to match the roll chart with Ryans existing via points then look at the points that are labelled with left/right added. Most(not all) of those ones should approximately match route sheet cells.

My own separate waypoint file that matches cells with locations is here...WaypointsONLY-2010.gpx (http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/9/8/208927/DB1kSSI%20V3-WaypointsONLY-2010.gpx)
Right click, save as.
It is as accurate as I can be as this point in time. Some waypoints are staggered out of each others way a bit where we travel the same roads twice up around Makenzie Pass way for example.
The one thing I'm going to be wary of is the Taranaki gate in the Black Forrest. Location for that is a ball park only.

[Woodman]

Should be home from 5pm.

Cheers see you then.

[Waihou Thumper]

Thanks. Yep, you are right. Easy when it is just follow off road....See you down there....:)

[cooneyr]

You lot (and me) a potentially going to see a rare spectacle that not many NZ'ers have seen in person. The Benmore Dam is spilling at present and expected to continue to spill for the next few days. Whether the spilling is right or wrong is another debate but it looks damn impressive - Benmore is probably has the most impressive spillway of any Dam in the SI because of the fin at the end that shoots water up to disapate its energy. There use to be a large rock (natural not placed) in river at the end of the spillway however that was erroded maybe 1.5-2m to below the waterline during spilling last year. I've personally never seen it and it generally only happens for a couple of days a year at most. It sounds like this year is an exception in that there has been so much rain in the head waters around the Main Divide.

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The DB1k route goes across the top of the Benmore Dam i.e. across the top of the control gates in the first photo so you will get to see the view in the second photo. If you are interested - take the tracks off to the right just as the Dam itself comes into view as you go up the valley and you will be able to get a picture like the first one.

Cheers R

[Aslan]

You lot (and me) a potentially going to see a rare spectacle that not many NZ'ers have seen in person. The Benmore Dam is spilling at present and expected to continue to spill for the next few days. Whether the spilling is right or wrong is another debate but it looks damn impressive - Benmore is probably has the most impressive spillway of any Dam in the SI because of the fin at the end that shoots water up to disapate its energy. There use to be a large rock (natural not placed) in river at the end of the spillway however that was erroded maybe 1.5-2m to below the waterline during spilling last year. I've personally never seen it and it generally only happens for a couple of days a year at most. It sounds like this year is an exception in that there has been so much rain in the head waters around the Main Divide.



190420190421

The DB1k route goes across the top of the Benmore Dam i.e. across the top of the control gates in the first photo so you will get to see the view in the second photo. If you are interested - take the tracks off to the right just as the Dam itself comes into view as you go up the valley and you will be able to get a picture like the first one.

Cheers R


Thank's as always Ryan - you're a generous man and have a wealth of knowledge you freely share! - Cheers S

[.chris]

Weather is looking good today, snow will be gone by the time you guys arrive.
Hope it stays like this for the weekend.

Pic is from Rockwood Road looking towards Fairlie.

[_Shrek_]

I am really looking forward to this as it is my first time in the South Island on the back of a motorbike!

have put notice in paper to worn da locals there's a nutter on a orange road marker possing as a motor bike :bleh:

ps will have water just for you :shifty:

[Waihou Thumper]

have put notice in paper to worn da locals there's a nutter on a orange road marker possing as a motor bike :bleh:

ps will have water just for you :shifty:

:lol::lol::lol: Thank you, much appreciated....That means less weight to carry, thank goodness for that!

[cooneyr]

....Pic is from Rockwood Road looking towards Fairlie.

Hope you went and checked out brothers rd while you were there. Not part of the dusty but a interesing paper road none the less.

Cheers R

[.chris]

Hope you went and checked out brothers rd while you were there. Not part of the dusty but a interesing paper road none the less.

Cheers R

Last time through there I had a pretty close call with a very large very agressive bull, so not so keen to rip through solo. I went out Crikelwood road to try and find an old bridge I remember from when I was a kid, but it is gone. Criklewood road is pretty fresh gravel through to Limestone valley.

[rogerh]

Any issue with a late entry? I am likely in the district this weekend, and would be keen to tag along. I don't do navigation, but I can follow others OK...

And seeing Benmore spilling close up is pretty spectacular. Saw it at a hydrological society conference a few years back. Seriously cool.

[Transalper]

only thing that springs to my mind rogerh is wether you are doing the one or two day version and whether you are booking your own accommodation vs hoping that there are still vacant beds within existing arrangements (I suspect there is).
Also are you wanting to get in on food at the BBQ at the Gladstone on Friday where a kind of briefing wil be held?

Answering those questions may help cooneyr when he goes to reply.

[rogerh]

only thing that springs to my mind rogerh is wether you are doing the one or two day version and whether you are booking your own accommodation vs hoping that there are still vacant beds within existing arrangements (I suspect there is).
Also are you wanting to get in on food at the BBQ at the Gladstone on Friday where a kind of briefing wil be held?

Answering those questions may help cooneyr when he goes to reply.

I am more into cruising, and enjoying the country going past, so the two day is good for me. Have never riden most of the counrty, but have taken rental cars and 4WD's across some of it (not saying which bits in what vehicle, or I may not be able to get a rental in the district again....)

With accommodation, I can do either, and if there is none, I would bring a tent, but if some is available I will use it, and if it is not too late to book, i will try and get to the bbq as well

[cooneyr]

I am more into cruising, and enjoying the country going past, so the two day is good for me. Have never riden most of the counrty, but have taken rental cars and 4WD's across some of it (not saying which bits in what vehicle, or I may not be able to get a rental in the district again....)

With accommodation, I can do either, and if there is none, I would bring a tent, but if some is available I will use it, and if it is not too late to book, i will try and get to the bbq as well

Lucky timing. I'm about to ring to confirm numbers for the BBQ list. There was one spare bed at the Gladstone pub on the Friday night (yours now) and there were four spare spaces at the camping ground lodge in Alex (now three - one is yours).

Costs are - BBQ is $10, Gladstone BnB is $35, Alex Bed with linen is $30, and $10 for access to private tracks.

Cheers R

P.S. thanks for prompting the questions TA.

[rogerh]

Lucky timing. I'm about to ring to confirm numbers for the BBQ list. There was one spare bed at the Gladstone pub on the Friday night (yours now) and there were four spare spaces at the camping ground lodge in Alex (now three - one is yours).

Costs are - BBQ is $10, Gladstone BnB is $35, Alex Bed with linen is $30, and $10 for access to private tracks.

Cheers R

P.S. thanks for prompting the questions TA.

I'll take it! Many thanks. Couldn't be easier....

Had plans of doing some riding while I was down here, but wasn't planning to do quite so much in a weekend, but I think i will manage.....

See you Friday

[.chris]

I'll take it! Many thanks. Couldn't be easier....

Had plans of doing some riding while I was down here, but wasn't planning to do quite so much in a weekend, but I think i will manage.....

See you Friday

Good job roger, will be good to see you on friday.
Us North Islanders need to reprasent!

[alfonz]

count me in for the dusty butt, sorry about taking so long to confirm im a starter as i was not sure about my health but feeling good . so is there any beds left and count me in for the bbq really looking forward to it

cheers alf :done:

[Waihou Thumper]

count me in for the dusty butt, sorry about taking so long to confirm im a starter as i was not sure about my health but feeling good . so is there any beds left and count me in for the bbq really looking forward to it

cheers alf :done:

And the list grows and grows....Awesome....Looking forward to meeting you all and don't steal my snarlers, I booked ages ago...:laugh:

[warewolf]

needs more work so will either make a simplerer one or just follow the fast guys tracks.borrow mine? I won't be using it :bye:

Ah, don't worry, Nordie's got you sorted.

[warewolf]

I would like to wish all the participants an awesome ride :2thumbsup especially the Good Keen Men doing the small bore challenge. :headbang:

Shame I can't be there myself :weep: but I'm sure I'll hear all about it. :drool:

[junkmanjoe]

I would like to wish all the participants an awesome ride :2thumbsup especially the Good Keen Men doing the small bore challenge. :headbang:

Shame I can't be there myself :weep: but I'm sure I'll hear all about it. :drool:

hay warewolf,, you can come and ride with us the following weekend if you like,,we getting quite a good group togeather... think we up to about 6 or so..

JMJ

[warewolf]

Cheers JMJ, will have to see. Away for 3 days for the Tekapo Tamer 29-31st; weekend between then and DB is slated for family time.... or work.

[cooneyr]

Gidday Alf. Snarler and bed in alex for the saturday are yours. Sorry no beds left at the Gladdy in Fairlie for the Friday.

Cheers R

[XF650]

Alf - you could try the other pub:
http://www.mtcooknz.com/mackenzie/pr...=fairlie-hotel

[timg]

Alf - you could try the other pub:
http://www.mtcooknz.com/mackenzie/pr...=fairlie-hotel Or PM Helen of Troy - some of us are at a farm stay place, I'm not sure if it is full or not, but Hottie organised it for us lazy sods :) Be better with the group than on yer own eh?

[timg]

I am more into cruising, and enjoying the country going past, Should be able to keep up with me then. Being of advancing years (a grumpy old git) I ride a gentleman's adventure bike at a gentleman's pace. These gravel rats can shoot off on a roost and dust cloud, I'll just be tagging along at the back as usual :ride:

[helenoftroy]

count me in for the dusty butt, sorry about taking so long to confirm im a starter as i was not sure about my health but feeling good . so is there any beds left and count me in for the bbq really looking forward to it

cheers alf :done:
Im sure we can find a spot for you at Lambrook farm cottages(5 mins from Fairlie)where a group of 15+ are staying.....$17.50 a night,$5 extra for linen,let me know.....:sunny:

[cold comfort]

Should be able to keep up with me then. Being of advancing years (a grumpy old git) I ride a gentleman's adventure bike at a gentleman's pace. These gravel rats can shoot off on a roost and dust cloud, I'll just be tagging along at the back as usual :ride:

Excellent -i will just park my zimmer frame in behind yours buddy

[Transalper]

Im sure we can find a spot for you at Lambrook farm cottages(5 mins from Fairlie)where a group of 15+ are staying.....$17.50 a night,$5 extra for linen,let me know.....:sunny:

Hey HOT, what time are you expecting to get to the Cottage or are you going directly to the BBQ first?

[helenoftroy]

Should be there bout 4.30 - 5.
Bev at the farm expecting people anytime in the avo

[Woodman]

Bikes all loaded up, went for a shakedown run down the riverbank and nothing came undone so should be all good.

Looks like the weather may be a bit inconsistent until Monday acccording to the tv, but metview says otherwise so who knows really.

Bring on 6 days of riding yeeehaaa.

[andy mac]

:scooter: Best wishes to all DB riders, hoping you don't have too many unplanned adventures.

When will the odds be posted for how many finishers in the small bore challenge? :devil2:

[Ruralman]

Apart from the small bore challenge riders, can the rest of you give me some idea of when you will be through the Lake Mahingerangi area?? - thinking of heading over in the car with a gas cooker and having some free coffee, tools etc on the side of the road somewhere around there

[thepom]

Sorry but I don,t even know where that is but somebody will be along who knows......transalper......

[cooneyr]

Apart from the small bore challenge riders, can the rest of you give me some idea of when you will be through the Lake Mahingerangi area?? - thinking of heading over in the car with a gas cooker and having some free coffee, tools etc on the side of the road somewhere around there

Its about 400kms to the lake. If they start at about 5.30 as per other years then about from 1300 on but the two dayers tend to be a leisurely lot so maybe a bit later? Hard to predict. Maybe it would be better to get XF650 or TA to give you a text when they leave Ranfurly. They will be a couple of hours getting from Ranfurly to the lake.

Actually them being a leisurely lot they would probably really appreciate the coffee too!

Cheers R

[umopom]

Apart from the small bore challenge riders, can the rest of you give me some idea of when you will be through the Lake Mahingerangi area?? - thinking of heading over in the car with a gas cooker and having some free coffee, tools etc on the side of the road somewhere around there

An awesome idea and will be good to meet you and have a break - milk no sugar thanks!!
See you Sat
JC

[XF650]

Great coffee offer, thanks Bruce. Milk and sugar for me please.
As Ryan suggested we can text ahead but I suspect the riders could be strung out - how long can you hang around?

[Ruralman]

Its about 400kms to the lake. If they start at about 5.30 as per other years then about from 1300 on but the two dayers tend to be a leisurely lot so maybe a bit later? Hard to predict. Maybe it would be better to get XF650 or TA to give you a text when they leave Ranfurly. They will be a couple of hours getting from Ranfurly to the lake.

Actually them being a leisurely lot they would probably really appreciate the coffee too!


Cheers R

Thanks for that - that would be a nice civilized time for us to get over there and set up !!! Spread the word that we will be somewhere over there - I've got friends with one of the fishing huts at the village so depending on the day annd if they are there we might set up there , otherwise I'll find another spot. I will put some sort of sign up on the road.

Ride safe guys and have a heap of fun - take it easy on that high altitude stuff - its likely to be very slippery clay in quite a few places (= good front tyre and the right pressure) at the moment

[Transalper]

Its about 400kms to the lake. If they start at about 5.30 as per other years....Stuff that, it's a two day ride doing only about 600km on day one. Why the heck would I want to be leaving before 7:30am ??? or 7am at a push.

I'm not saying I want a sleep in, just don't want to be trying to get up in the silly hours.

[cooneyr]

Thanks for that - that would be a nice civilized time for us to get over there and set up !!! Spread the word that we will be somewhere over there - I've got friends with one of the fishing huts at the village so depending on the day annd if they are there we might set up there , otherwise I'll find another spot. I will put some sort of sign up on the road.

Ride safe guys and have a heap of fun - take it easy on that high altitude stuff - its likely to be very slippery clay in quite a few places (= good front tyre and the right pressure) at the moment

I'll let everybody know at the briefing to keep an eye out for the coffee guy at the huts.


Stuff that, it's a two day ride doing only about 600km on day one. Why the heck would I want to be leaving before 7:30am ??? or 7am at a push.

I'm not saying I want a sleep in, just don't want to be trying to get up in the silly hours.

Now why am I not supprised to see a post like that from you ;)

Both you and XF make a good point though - varied starting hours and spread out so potential for a wide range of arrival times. I still can't see anybody getting there before about 1300 at the earliest but they still may be going through at 1700.

Cheers R

[alfonz]

hi helenoftroy . hey that will do me fine and thank you for that much apperated

regards alf

[alfonz]

hi count me in cheers alfonz

[helenoftroy]

hi helenoftroy . hey that will do me fine and thank you for that much apperated

regards alf
No problem!
Turn up there anytime & grab a bed

Am waiting for Underground,Mountie(& partners) & ??Woodman to turn up for the night....they are coming via the Molesworth.Hope they are not too wet & cold.....:cold:

[thepom]

I ve just seen a bmw80r0 and an africa twin and I think a red klr at the lights in belfast so I hope that might be some people on their way.......

[cynna]

Important Notice - High Fire Risk


The blue 450g aerosol ABC type came from Fitness Hire (member razzel1 on TradeMe). The red 'Fire Exit' and the TUNDRA Fire Suppressant are available in Mitre 10, Mega, Placemakers, Bunnings and Briscoes stores. All are $20 - $25. (text and image stolen from 4skins CCA website).


got mine from bunnings - think it was $29. not too heavy and fits in the backpack quite nicely. got an aerosol one rather then the other nozzle type which looked like it could get knocked off quite easily in my bag

all packed and ready to head off in the morning. hope its not going to be as wet as it was coming back from the prerun....

[Transalper]

Well I'll be picking skinnybirdman and his 125 up about 2pm and we'll be on the road shortly after.
So see ya all in Fairlie.

[Peril]

Good luck you lot lucky enough to be doing this,hope you all have a great time and no serious offs are had.
I will be there oneday!

[CrazyFrog]

I ve just seen a bmw f800 and an africa twin and I think a red klr at the lights in belfast so I hope that might be some people on their way.......

Mountie, Underground, and Woodman left Nelson yesterday via the Rainbow, that'll be them.

[helenoftroy]

Mountie, Underground, and Woodman left Nelson yesterday via the Rainbow, that'll be them.
My garage had 7 awesome bikes in residence overnight!A very enjoyable evening was had....:drinknsin(apart from the gas running out on the BBQ!!)

Woodman & young Josh headed off to join the Orari Gorge group this morning....weathers looking good atm

[.chris]

What time are we congregating at the Gladstone?

I had forgotten about doing the Orari ride, guess I have missed that one now. Nevermind.

[_Shrek_]

looks like you might have to change the name from Dusty Butt to Muddy Butt, :whistle:

but on a good note the rain has stopped for now anyway :laugh:

[Ms Topo]

Weather is great down here in Fairlie & in Central :) So no Muddy Butts here:lol:

[.chris]

arrived in alex without issue, bloody tired glad
tomorrow is a bit shorter. some great country covered amazing ride so far

[Ruralman]

Bloody shame the organisers ride didn't quite go to plan ...............
Seeing as how its all planned out - why not have another go in a couple of weeks ???? - and give some who couldn't make this one another chance

I got to the Lake and set up for the coffee stop about 1:30. I waved down a couple of pairs of riders on my way in from Lawrence - looked like they were really enjoying it.
Only had a couple of bikes come in for coffee - not sure whether my signs weren't big enough (there were a couple of toots), or ,no one trusts my coffee, my deodorant has run out, or you were already so far behind your time schedule that you couldn't afford to stop???

Actually I didn't care - had a great afternoon relaxing at my friends batch, caught up on some reading and was there if needed (I'm pleased I wasn't)
Hope tomorrow goes well and you continue on with a dry track

[NordieBoy]

It pissed down for the start of last years.

And a couple of times on the Molesworth too but only briefly.

[NordieBoy]

Well?










We're waiting....

How many SBC seats had to be surgically removed?

Etc etc etc...

[Padmei]

From us that missed out - Well done gents & ladies :done:however we do want to hear about all the nuggety bits. Does someone want to do a writeup on Advrider with pics for easy photo vieiwng?

[cynna]

heres a few pics until someone does a writeup

[cynna]

will add a link up to the other photos when i upload them to another site

[.chris]

Few random photos quickly picked out of the bunch.

<table style="width:194px;"><tr><td align="center" style="height:194px;no-repeat left"><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/c.p.whitehead/DustyButt1000km?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Gr4w3OEMfJs/S1LYYHKCLrE/AAAAAAAAGjI/Lzdy8i-VMa0/s160-c/DustyButt1000km.jpg" width="160" height="160" style="margin:1px 0 0 4px;"></a></td></tr><tr><td style="text-align:center;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:11px"><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/c.p.whitehead/DustyButt1000km?feat=embedwebsite" style="color:#4D4D4D;font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none;">Dusty Butt 1000km</a></td></tr></table>

[cooneyr]

Things I know so far - there is much more to come I'm sure.
SBC has been concoured - Zerax and Skinny Birdman completed the run in 22.25 hrs
El and I failed big time!
Racing Dave got a chopper ride
The Ausi Safari entrants, Topo and Javahead had an extremly good run
I know of two other riders (X-challange and XR650R) completed the one day run
A XT660R rider had a fall on the one day run and got home by going up the seal from Alex to Omarama
There are a couple of minor issues with the roll chart
The GPS file worked really well
We paid for 49 bikes to go through the Black Forest track which is the best record of the number of bikes entered. This is by far the largest starting field ever - about 1.5 times last years numbers.

Lastly a very very large thankyou to all who helped with preparing for the ride - Cynna for his company on the pre run, Transalper for the same and his help with the roll chart and GPS file, my brother El Scooto and his fiance for their company on the pre run and their help at the BBQ, XF650 for finding the BBQ and Fairlie and Alex accomodation and lastly my wife for tolerating all the hours of me preparing for this ride (and the new route) and her advice and help.

I'm keen to hear all the stories of the fun that was had, advice on issues with the route/roll chart, ideas for next year (lets get them while they are front of mind) and lastly how many times The Pom managed to crash during the ride LOL

Cheers R

[.chris]

Thanks Ryan & team for the hard work on this ride, it was bloody epic!

Only had 2 navigational issues (one included a trip up the Omarama Saddle, which was worth doing anyway). Really enjoyed following the roadbook, next time I shall get a proper (click-click I mean) road book instead of just having the prinout in the tank bag.
You guys did a great job of stringing all these great bits of country together, there was not much boring road stuff between the amazing vistas. I have been around a fair bit of that country before, but never seen it like we did over the weekend.
I spent way too much time on the camera on saturday and only just made it into Lawerence at 4:55pm, the petrol station closed after I filled up. I could have been in trouble if I was much later.

Thanks to all the guys I met and rode with, had a bloody great weekend.

Thepom rode like a tropper on sunday, did not see him fall off even once, no matter how many times I pointed a camera at him.
Here he is doing a crossing on the entry to Little Omarama Saddle.
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[XF650]

Bloody fantastic Ryan - can it get any better than this?
Everyone I rode with was constantly in awe of the route, the scenery and the amount of time & effort you put into this event. Many times I heard the comment: "lets do this again" !!
Congratulations also to the 125's & 1 dayers - Well done.
From a 2 dayer perspective I think the route was spot on. I guess for variation you could reverse the direction but not sure how that would work for the 1 dayers.
I managed to dump the XF twice in the Challenge loop but it's obvious now I wasn't alone. In fact I think Serpentine Road should be re-named "Rut Road".
Thanks to Hobbit & HOT for support services.
Roll on Dusty Butt 2011.

[bishxt]

A big thanks from myself and Jacko to Ryan and the team for such a great event!

Had a great day one, the highlight of which was the challenge loop - some serious 4WD ruts up near the church. A big thanks to the guys on the TTR600 and DR650 for helping out with Jacko's GS800. Bumped into Ruralman, near Lawrence and Shrek (I think) before the Serpentine Rd.

Unfortunately the 15 hours of mainly high speed caning resulted in me DNF'ing at Cromwell with a blown motor, so it's RIP XT600 or at least that particular engine. To add insult to injury, the rear wheel bearings shot themselves on Jacko's GS so we enjoyed a rental car ride back to Chch on Sunday and the bikes went on a truck - thanks to the AA!

I've posted some pics up to Picasa here:

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Be back next year with a more reliable motor!

[topo]

Hi All,

First up Cheers to Cooneyr and everyone else who helped with this years ride:2thumbsup

Javahead and i had a great ride completing the loop in just under 16hrs :headbang: the only minor issue was Javahead's headlight failing wich required us to be home before dark which we just made.

A few questions regarding the other 1 day guy's. Who's the guy riding the BMW 650XC? we caught up to him at one point but stopped for a quick feed and never saw him again. and also what time did the guy on the 650? honda get in? we spoke to his dad when we arrived and got the impression that we should have met him allong the way?

Let the planning for next year begin:rolleyes:

[cooneyr]

...Unfortunately the 15 hours of mainly high speed caning resulted in me DNF'ing at Cromwell with a blown motor, so it's RIP XT600 or at least that particular engine. To add insult to injury, the rear wheel bearings shot themselves on Jacko's GS so we enjoyed a rental car ride back to Chch on Sunday and the bikes went on a truck - thanks to the AA!...

Mate that sucks. Good luck getting the XT repaired or replaced! Whats with the F800GS wheel bearings going - use or something more sinister?


.....A few questions regarding the other 1 day guy's. Who's the guy riding the BMW 650XC? we caught up to him at one point but stopped for a quick feed and never saw him again. and also what time did the guy on the 650? honda get in? we spoke to his dad when we arrived and got the impression that we should have met him allong the way?

The XC rider was davo20 I think. He helped Racing Dave out as he was a minute or so behind him when he crashed. The XR650R rider is a KB newby from Rangitata, or was it Raikaia - cant remember. I had a chat with him the next morning and I think I'm right in saying a 12pm arrival back at Fairlie (6pm ish start).


.....Let the planning for next year begin:rolleyes:

The mind is already working through potential bike ideas. As for route ideas, we really need to talk! Anytime your comming down get in touch. I'll do the same if I go to NN.

Cheers R

[cold comfort]

Difficult to know where to begin. Firstly the most obvious is huge appreciation to Ryan for the time and meticulous planning involved in this trip. It was great to once again put more faces to names and share good times with some awesome people. I've seen more of the SI back country in 2 days than in 10 yrs!. I'm already enjoying the photos comin up of the stunning scenery and the adventure crew. As this has only been my second trip off seal since getting the DR its been a fantastic learning curve! (I know for sure after 2 days on that seat there is no way my butt could take 24hrs of it!)

[MotoRad-ical]

Wow!
What an awsome ride!

Congrats to Cooneyr and team you guys have done an awsome job and and I'm sure most don't appreciate just how much time and effort you have put in to making an awsome trip.
The scenery and tracks were great and at times we were laughing to each other cause we both had no idea where in NZ we were which makes it that much more fun.
Me and Josh (Yamaha ttr650) completed the 2 dayer sucessfully with no punctures and no real problems apart from a wee nose to tail.
It was great to meet a heap of like minded people and when the going gets tuff help appears.
I must say the 2 dayer is great socially as you get to meet and talk to alot more people but the 1 dayer is definatly the challenge for next year.
Also big ups to the north island guys who put the effort to come down.

P.S What happend R-Dave???

[thepom]

Well what can I say,.....the most memorable ride I have done since coming to NZ...I,d like to thank Ryan and friends for the organisation without which it would not have been possible ( sounds like the oscars) .

All the men who helped me through my baptism of fire thay call the Orari Gorge ( I think thats what its called....I called it hell on earth ). I sadly never grew up in NZ and did not have the luxury of having a playground like this in the UK or Holland. My skills are sadly lacking as I am relatively new to adventure riding and am still in awe of the fun a bloke can have on a trail ride.

I had a crowd of blokes help me along every inch of the way to Fairlie through the Gorge and gave me top advice and encouragement when needed and of course the good Kiwi piss take which comes with it. I learned so much in that one day that I put down to riding the whole Dusty Butt without once dropping the bike! Friends I take my hat off to you!

A special mention to cynna (col) for looking after me every time I went through a ford or a rough bit to make sure I made it through and for the tireless effort of helping me pick up my bike every time I dropped it ( also on the previous rides I have done with him)

I hope to be doing more rides and increasing my skill level as I go and meeting new people along the way like Helen and Debbie who gave great support and always a happy face. Also to all the guy,s like Matt ,Nigel ,Alan,John Chris ( oooh my cocktail dress) and Alfie for feathering the clutch ...and the lift...Ahem....( we will never speak of this again)....and to any one else I may have missed.

I hope to see and meet many of you again on future rides and look forward to exploring this amazing country I call home.....sniff sniff....ps my ankles are so painful from falling off and my tits hurt too......

[bishxt]

Originally Posted by bishxt
...Unfortunately the 15 hours of mainly high speed caning resulted in me DNF'ing at Cromwell with a blown motor, so it's RIP XT600 or at least that particular engine. To add insult to injury, the rear wheel bearings shot themselves on Jacko's GS so we enjoyed a rental car ride back to Chch on Sunday and the bikes went on a truck - thanks to the AA!...

Mate that sucks. Good luck getting the XT repaired or replaced! Whats with the F800GS wheel bearings going - use or something more sinister?

Thanks for the commiserations - At least the XT went out with a bang! The engine is going to very expensive to fix and it's generally well thrashed, so I might go the way of the DR650 which seems to be very popular in NZ... I'll have a look at some of the threads to get an idea.

The GS800 bearings must be a lack of Vorspung durch technic on a Friday afternoon in Bavaria or something, as it's only a year old - hopefully a warranty job!

Cheers
Bish

[javahead]

That was a ride to remember. Huge thanks to Ryan and the others that spent so many hours and days planning, checking, pre-riding etc. It was a treat to be able to just ride and leave the directions to someone else. A couple of times we thought we were lost but in the end we were just confused - we were usually in the correct place after all.

It felt like the right mix of fast and tight roads for a long day. I can only compare with last year's but I'd say this one had more rocky terrain, and less seal - none of which seemed overly long. Good to be able to finish with long straight gravel runs as the light was fading and the temperature was dropping.

It was my first time over all those routes, so my head is full of a mash of spectacular scenery and excellent riding tracks. I loved the rocky bits and the long downhills - just wish I could remember which bit was what. Guess that means coming back for more.

We were fortunate to do it in the dry. And thankfully good sense prevailed and we didn't choose 125s. It was a blast on the 530. topo's 640 didn't miss a beat and we travelled at the same pace with pretty much the same level of comfort.

Definitely a ride that was better shared. It made gates much easier when the one that opens it closes it, so that the other guy rides on thru to open & shut the next gate. We caught up with only three others and they were all riding alone. That would have been hard work. Having someone to push the pace along, and correct the occasional bad navigation choice made it easier.

Other than a posse of 4WDs on the Nevis (?) we hardly saw a soul off the seal. If you organised that Ryan - well done!

It was slightly surreal to find a guy on a near new postie bike, quite well dressed, trundling along up a hill in the middle of absolutely nowhere at a very sedate pace, grinning ear to ear. We ended up opening two gates for him. His pace was perfect - never needing to slow, never able to speed. I think we both felt inadequate being passed by him twice, so we tried much harder from then on.

Both topo and I used Michelin Deserts which had already been well run in (approx 1000 km of sand for each). We had them at 26-28 psi and rode at a pace that would preserve them as far as possible. They were great until around 800 km when it was hard to get enough traction into a headwind to keep accelerating. Next time I think starting with new ones will do it - assuming similar terrain. If it was wet we might not have found them quite as good.

Other than an errant headlight of mine, no problems for either of us. Sore hands and generally tired, but that's it. No crashes (OK I fell over twice getting off and on at gates, but if it doesn't hurt or break anything then its not a crash, right). Surprisingly the seat was comfortable right to the finish. I think the mix of terrain had a lot to do with it - never sitting for too long at a time.

No photos to share but a head full of great memories to keep.

Roll on DB 2011.