DB1k 2010 - Official Thread

[cooneyr]

There are two other threads out there for this year of the DB1k 2010 being the Small Bore Challenge thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=98092) and the DB1k 2010 ideas thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=96095). Feel free to post in these threads but this thread will be the official DB1k thread for announcements around venues, dates, times, roll charts etc.

Run Date
The people have spoken - the date of the run is weekend 16/17th of January 2010.

Accomodation on Friday and Saturday night
We are organising two options if they dont suit you it is up to you to organise something else. For the Friday night, the 15th, there is the Gladstone in Fairlie. If we support them with a full house, then it's a $35 flat rate for bed and breakfast. First in first served, limit 15. Includes covered bike parking that looks good & secure. For the Saturday night, the 16th, there is the Alexandra Holiday Park for the two day riders. We have secured a self contained unit designed for groups, with it's own kitchen, ablutions, seperate bedrooms plus a bunk room. Cost will be $30 incl linen, so you won't have to worry about carrying sleeping bags etc. There's also a secure bike shed. If you want one of these options your name must be on the appropriate list below. PM me to get your name on the list.

Pre Ride BBQ
On the Friday evening, the 15th, we have organised a $10 BBQ tea at the Gladstone. All are welcome. We have use of both the beer garden and the rear lounge. If you want to attend your name must be on the appropriate list below. PM me to get your name on the list.

Route Information
Over on my website (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/db1kssi.html) there is a map with the route and points of interest, marked up topomaps, a google earth file and a distance calculation sheet. This route is being revised slightly following Pre Run and this post will be updated when the final roll chart and GPS file is available.

Ride Etiquette/Safety
The runs to date have shown that small groups (2-4) of mates is best for the one day run. The two day riders have tended to ride as one large group in the past but I'd suggest give the numbers that smaller groups form this year. As with previous runs there is no support for the one day riders. They are expected to carry everything they need from food and water, first aid gear, tools, spares etc. Also there is limited cell phone coverage for most of the route. There has been a sweep vehicle for the two day riders for the past two years however I'm not sure if this will happen again this year.

Ride Stickers
These will be available for all those who attempt the ride. They will cost $5 each. 50 ordered. First in first served at the BBQ on the Friday night. See this post (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129507286&postcount=194) to get an idea of what it will look like.

Calendars

ONE Day "sensible" riders Calendar (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2092&day=2010-1-16&c=6) - If you plan on doing the one day run on sensible bikes (not SBC bikes) please put your name on this calender
TWO Day riders Calendar (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2093&day=2010-1-16&c=6) - If you plan on doing the one day run please put your name on the calender
ONE Day SBC riders Calendar (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2182&day=2010-1-16&c=6) - If you plan on doing the one day SBC run please put your name on this calender


Updates
Update A- This post has been completely updated on the 10th of November 2009.

Final Word
There is no "entry fee", there is no registration, this is not an organised ride in the legal sense. This ride is simply a bunch of people following the same route at their own pace along publicly accessible tracks. I take no responsibility for any issues be they self inflicted or not. I will however endeavour to ensure that there are no right of passage issues along the route. You all need to ensure your bike its up to the task. There will not be a scrutineering or similar.

Cheers R

I've had to bring the lists over to this post as I can no longer edit the original lists here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129507257&postcount=193).

Accomodation
There are two accommodation options that we are compiling lists for. If your name is not on the lists then you need to organise your own accommodation. PM me (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=3969) to get your name on a list. If you have mates that are coming along please let me know how many and what their names are too. When you arrive at the location your name will be ticked off the list (we will provide the list to the proprietors) and you pay your money then (no money now). Obviously I need real names for the list I provide the proprietors.

Friday night - Gladstone Pub - B&B for $35pp. Breakfast at 6.30 AM
One or Two Day Riders may want to have accommodation here.

cynna
XF650
rogson
crises management
aslan
woodman
mattsdaker
jon34
thepom
VFRmuzz
umopom
topo
ms topo
javahead

TOTAL = 14 out of 15 spaces - 1 Remaining

Alternative Fairlie accommodation options here (http://www.fairlie.co.nz/html/accommodation_.html)

Saturday night - Alex Holiday Park - $30 including Linen, towels and a fully equipped kitchen
Only Two Day Riders will want to have accommodation here.

C.h.r.i.s
Jatz
Mrs Jatz
The Boy
Aslan
Whatastoner
Helen of Troy + 2
Transalper
Cynna
Woodman
thepom
XF650
rogson
crises management
ms topo
jon34
mattsdaker
TimG + 1
Cold Comfort
alane
NZKTM
umopom

TOTAL = 25 out of 29 spaces - 4 remaining

BBQ
This list is to give an idea to the Gladstone pub as to how many will be at the BBQ. Again name not on the list (with your mates) then you are not going to be catered for.

Friday night - Gladstone Pub - $10 BBQ
All are most welcome to this. This will be our only get together for the whole group.

cynna
XF650
rogson
crises management
aslan
woodman
mattsdaker
jon34
thepom
VFRmuzz
umopom
Helen of Troy + 2
C.h.r.i.s
El Scooto + 1
Cooneyr + 1
Transalper
topo
ms topo
javahead
Jatz
Mrs Jatz
The Boy
Underground + 1
Mountie + 2
TimG + 1
Ruralman
Rod + 1
Cold Comfort
Whatastoner
davo20
bishxt
Jacko
alane
NZKTM

TOTAL = 43

All lists updated 8.00am 29-12-09

[Skinny_Birdman]

I have put in for 16/17 Jan, because Mrs B is mulling the possibility of visiting her folks in Germany at Christmas, and I'd rather not go all that way for only a couple of weeks. Thanks R for a very complete rundown on the ride - I promise I didn't even notice any spellink misteaks. Spelling, like many things is best left to pedantic surveyors :devil2:

[The Wasp]

There has been a sweep vehicle for the two day riders for the past two years however I'm not sure if this will happen again this year. If the previous person is not interested and there is a desire by the two day riders for a sweep/gear carrier we may need a volunteer.
Cheers R

I could be keen, given that i'm likely to be in the Waitaki around that time (including the 5mnths before and 2 after!). Will have to play it by ear for now as theres a lot of uncertainty with the upcoming project. Plus I'll need to hire/borrow a tough arse truck and trailer as i doubt the impreza would get us far! mind you i could try and swindle the company hilux for the weekend...

[cooneyr]

I could be keen, given that i'm likely to be in the Waitaki around that time (including the 5mnths before and 2 after!). Will have to play it by ear for now as theres a lot of uncertainty with the upcoming project. Plus I'll need to hire/borrow a tough arse truck and trailer as i doubt the impreza would get us far! mind you i could try and swindle the company hilux for the weekend...

Gidday mate, thanks for the offer. You could use the 40 series cruiser if your bro will let you near it;) Anyway you should have your licence by then - get yourself a bike for the small bore challenge!!!

Wifey and I will definitely be down to visit if you end up working on the project.

Cheers R

[cooneyr]

Yo Ms Topo - you ticked the earlier date option but you didn't put up a post with the date you would prefer?

Cheers R

[The Wasp]

You could use the 40 series cruiser if your bro will let you near it;) Anyway you should have your licence by then - get yourself a bike for the small bore challenge!!!

Cheers R

haha yeah 40 crossed my mind but angry bro crossed it sooner!

wont be on the SBC mate, you're supposed to be getting me excited about adventure riding, not putting me off forever!

[JATZ]

Any date suits us, we'll be there regardless :banana:

I had thought about the idea of contacting a 4wd club down that way to see about a sweep, shouldn't be too hard to find someone.
Our safari is available again, if needed, just need a pilot. Probly not as quick as the smurf but it'd do the job

[junkmanjoe]

Hi guys

i was round at Nana Mac's today.
Zukin's mum.
she said she be keen to be part of the dusty, as a maybe clean up crew.sweeper. come pilot.
just a thought.

JMJ

[Crisis management]

I was going to vote for 16th / 17th as that lets anyone doing the safari do both events....but I need to confirm I can make those dates before actually voting.

Working on a huge number of brownie points, always hard when you start from a negative position! :blink:

[cooneyr]

Any date suits us, we'll be there regardless :banana:

I had thought about the idea of contacting a 4wd club down that way to see about a sweep, shouldn't be too hard to find someone.
Our safari is available again, if needed, just need a pilot. Probly not as quick as the smurf but it'd do the job


Hi guys

i was round at Nana Mac's today.
Zukin's mum.
she said she be keen to be part of the dusty, as a maybe clean up crew.sweeper. come pilot.
just a thought.

JMJ

Thanks for the offers JATZ and JMJ. Seems we have plenty of vehicles and driver offers. I think we really need two sweep vehicles one for the SBC guys and one for the two day riders. I've been thinking about the route and there are options for skipping the nastier sections if a sweep driver isn't so 4wd savy and meet up with the riders a bit further down the track. The majority of the route is gravel roads though drivers should have no problems.

It would be great to have any of Zukins family come and be involved in the Dusty. I don't know any of them personally so I'm not sure if they are would be riders or if they might want a seat in a sweep vehicle. We might be able to even arrange a 4wd for them to use for themselves. Either way I'm sure something could be sorted. It is a great bit of country and there is heaps to see. It is my impression that Zukin got a real buzz out of the ride and it was great to have him involved.

Cheers R

[cooneyr]

bbbbbbbump

[Ruralman]

I don't know anything about setting up these polls but it would have been useful to have had one of those ones where you could vote for more than one date
keen to do this ride though

[junkmanjoe]

im going to be looking at 4-5 day trip any way.
so ive voted for the most..

JMJ

[cooneyr]

I don't know anything about setting up these polls but it would have been useful to have had one of those ones where you could vote for more than one date
keen to do this ride though

Umm Yer - didn't think of that and I dont know how to set it up. Also I can't change it now either.

If people dont have a preferance for the weekend then I'd suggest that you dont vote - that way those with a preferance will decide the outcome.

Cheers R

[Peril]

I'm not voting. :moon:
The XT needs oil leaks and/or cracks fixed,rego is on hold for 3 months so I might slowly pull it apart and fix it over those 3 months and see how enthused I am at the end of it.Or wether I park it over some railway lines during the night and claim it was stolen.:innocent:

[cooneyr]

I'm not voting. :moon:
The XT needs oil leaks and/or cracks fixed,rego is on hold for 3 months so I might slowly pull it apart and fix it over those 3 months and see how enthused I am at the end of it.Or wether I park it over some railway lines during the night and claim it was stolen.:innocent:

Your not having a very good run with the old girl. Good luck fixing her.

Cheers R

[cooneyr]

Bump again. Peeps can't vote if they cant see the thread.

Surprised very few of the usual suspects have ticked a box. Is it too early in the year for most to commit or what?

R

[buggsubique]

Bump again. Peeps can't vote if they cant see the thread.

Surprised very few of the usual suspects have ticked a box. Is it too early in the year for most to commit or what?

R

I'm not sure is all. If anything will do 2 dayer, but it's a little ways south to go is all. Just haven't made my mind up yet.

[NordieBoy]

I'm not sure on a date yet as I'd like to run a TOS 2 day DB for those who never got the chance and it's tied in with the Molesworth opening/closing dates.

Maybe if I did a thread with a poll....

[junkmanjoe]

id be keen to run the TOS DB, and im still to do the Molesworth , rainbow e.t.c.

and very keen to run the other one as well.

just cauz i like rideng me bike.:scooter:

[NordieBoy]

I'll start a thread...

[cooneyr]

I'm not sure is all. If anything will do 2 dayer, but it's a little ways south to go is all. Just haven't made my mind up yet.

Its not "that" far south. A day would have you from Blenheim to Fairlie via the Molesworth or about 6 hours via the east coast seal.

Cheers R

[helenoftroy]

Well if Ms Topo & Mrs Jatz are in.... it would be rude not to keep the girls company!!:woohoo:

Flexible on dates as long as I have lots of notice.....

[warewolf]

Pending work situation, I'm in with the whanau touring around at the same time. Not fussed on the date, at this point.

I'm also surprised at the comments about distance, although to be fair it is an extra day or two return ex-WLG for the Norf Island boys & girls.

[Ms Topo]

Well if Ms Topo & Mrs Jatz are in.... it would be rude not to keep the girls company!!:woohoo:

Flexible on dates as long as I have lots of notice.....

Hmmmm . . . depends on my new job whether I can get time off:crazy:

[helenoftroy]

Pending work situation, I'm in with the whanau touring around at the same time. Not fussed on the date, at this point.

I'm also surprised at the comments about distance, although to be fair it is an extra day or two return ex-WLG for the Norf Island boys & girls.
There will be 3 double bedrooms/5 beds available here for anyone.Im swimming around in my big house now my young ones have flown the nest....:bye:

Hmmmm . . . depends on my new job whether I can get time off:crazy:
Fingers crossed!!so hope you can make it!!:yes:

[junkmanjoe]

book me a bed...

[JATZ]

Any date suits us, we'll be there regardless :banana:


Well if Ms Topo & Mrs Jatz are in.... it would be rude not to keep the girls company!!:woohoo:

Hows that ? Might need a bed, but we might go down the West coast to get there :scooter:

[Alpha Solo]

Count me in !

[Underground]

There will be 3 double bedrooms/5 beds available here for anyone.Im swimming around in my big house now my young ones have flown the nest....:bye:


I would be keen on one of those beds helen ,I'm negotiating with my pillion to do the 2day'r 2up ,maybe have a go at the oldest bike/rider/pillion combo ?

[helenoftroy]

Hows that ? Might need a bed, but we might go down the West coast to get there :scooter:


book me a bed...


I would be keen on one of those beds helen ,I'm negotiating with my pillion to do the 2day'r 2up ,maybe have a go at the oldest bike/rider/pillion combo ?
All good!!beds booked...garage is going to look awesome!

Lol bout that oldest rider bit....Im ancient so I might win(& if i still had the R80PD I would definitely be in):jerry:

Do try and persuade your pillion Underground!!its an unforgetable adventure and total fun!!:msn-wink:

[Underground]

Cheers helen , i havent voted in the poll because any dates other than the earliest would suit so will leave voting to those who have 'schedules' to keep

[junkmanjoe]

we might go down the West coast to get there :scooter:

i like the sound off that.
if ya like a set of tail lights, keep me posted.

[cynna]

im keen this year. any date suits me as long as i have a few weeks notice

[Skinny_Birdman]

Im swimming around in my big house now my young ones have flown the nest....:bye:


Perhaps you should get the roof looked at... ;)

[NordieBoy]

Perhaps you should get the roof looked at... ;)

Yeah. It's a bit off relying on the kids to keep the roof in good condition.

[helenoftroy]

Perhaps you should get the roof looked at... ;)


Yeah. It's a bit off relying on the kids to keep the roof in good condition.

:rofl:oh shut up you cheeky young beasts!!

[tri boy]

Aghh, crap.
Looks like the lure of the south end is burrowing into my sub conscious.:clap:
If at all possible Ryan, i'm on this run. (probably do it as the two day ride)
Combining more riding with one or two others from the pig island, and getting kanny down sth on the Bandit is also part of the plan.
(I wonder if the Top House ghost will welcome me again:sleep::confused::confused:

[cooneyr]

Good on ya TB. Really looking forward to getting down that way myself. The countryside and history is awesome. The crazy old coots must have had gold fever real bad back in the 19th century, cause living in a tent pretty much anywhere along the DB1k route would have been real rough.

The poll closes on the 31st July i.e. two Fridays away and it is looking like the weekend of the 16/17th Jan is a goer. If you want another date speak now or forever hold your peace (no not that piece!).

Cheers R

[cooneyr]

Draft roll chart is all but finished. Just need to give it a final check over prior to the Pre Run on Labour weekend. Distance measured on the computer is 1070kms and stacks of gravel (over 800kms) :banana:

This route is going to take a bit more navigating than the northern one (lots more intersections and far less of the long runs i.e. Molesworth/rainbow etc).

[Waihou Thumper]

Distance measured on the computer is 1070kms and stacks of gravel (over 800kms) :banana:


Whatever the date, I will try to be there this time. It sounds great. :first:

[cynna]

how hard will the ride be if you havent used a roll chart before? is the navigation pretty straightforward or do u need to have had practice in this sort of stuff before?

[Waihou Thumper]

how hard will the ride be if you havent used a roll chart before? is the navigation pretty straightforward or do u need to have had practice in this sort of stuff before?

It is basically the same. The difference being you have indicators saying go left or right on the chart. You do have to make sure you scroll it regularly as by not doing this, you can get lost and miss the turn, then you have to backtrack to a last known position and match it to the rollchart...
AND, don't always follow the person in front, this is what makes navigating using a roll chart fun, it gives you that individuality about following a route successfully...

The hardest thing about the whole thing is making a good roll chart for the bike. I had two or three attempts and asked around and saw what others were fitting, doing etc.
Once you get a good one, stick with it, look after it because it WILL be your friend.
I am sure Ryan will have some handy hints for you as well as other experienced riders.
Take some time to practice with one too, reading and rolling whilst riding and at the same time trying to take in the scenery, watching for livestock and the road ahead....
A good roadbook will be accurate, have topgoraphical features sometimes to help you annotate and relate the chart to your position etc....

Good luck in making one, in using one and enjoy, remember, it isn't a race and you can always stop, study and ask, just like you would when navigating using a mapbook, but the rollchart is easier because you sometimes don't have to stop, navigate on the move....IT IS GREAT FUN....:clap:

[topo]

[QUOTE=NZKTM; remember, it isn't a race:[/QUOTE]

HA! you don't actually believe that do you?:rofl:

[Transalper]

If you rush you will most likely loose your place or miss a trip counter zeroing point which will make things tricky for a while.
If you want some practice there are a couple of charts starting in Christchurch floating around at home somewhere. We can jack up a ride sometime.
You go in front and navigate. :msn-wink:

[Waihou Thumper]

HA! you don't actually believe that do you?:rofl:


Making the guy feel at ease....:clap:
Don't want to scare the poor chap, we all have to start somewhere...
Support is needed not scare the riders away...:rolleyes:

[topo]

If you rush you will most likely loose your place or miss a trip counter zeroing point which will make things tricky for a while.
If you want some practice there are a couple of charts starting in Christchurch floating around at home somewhere. We can jack up a ride sometime.
You go in front and navigate. :msn-wink:



If you do have access to some off road/adv style route charts i'd love to get hold of them one weekend:2thumbsup, mabye start a thread including them.
I am planning on putting a couple of routes together for Nelson based rides which may be able to be incorperated into the DB1k route next time it's back this way.

Are there any others planing on doing the 1day DB1k10? I havent decided yet, will depend if the missus can make it down on the mighty SL.

TOPO

[Underground]

Are there any others planing on doing the 1day DB1k10?

TOPO

zerax told me he was going to do it on the postie in one day :wait:, team up with him , He'll give you some pace he's a fast rider :whistle:

[twotyred]

zerax told me he was going to do it on the postie in one day :wait:, team up with him , He'll give you some pace he's a fast rider :whistle:

on a postie "fast" is extremely relative....

[cooneyr]

As an example of a roll chart have a look at the one for the northern DB1k route from here (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/db1knsi.html). The PDF download link is in the first block of text below the map. This is my very first attempt at putting one together but it has been revised over three years of using the route. The one I've put together for the souther run is a bit more descriptive with bridges/fords/buildings/hedges shown where they are useful for navigation.

The typical roll chart holder is the 0.9l or the 0.6l click clack box. If I remember right they are getting hard to find though (had trouble getting one last year). I used a small electrical box last year with threaded rod as the rollers. See here (http://www.adventurerides.co.nz/rsholder.htm) for a page with details on an option.

Be warned the Southern DB1k roll chart is a little bit longer than the Northern DB1k one and there wasn't much room to spare with the Northern roll chart. Definitely get the 0.9l box if you can.

Regarding using them you have to be on the ball with rolling the damn thing forward and watching you trip meter at the same time. Some of the turns are 20kms appart so if you muck it up there is a lot of back tracking. They are easy in concept you just need to stay on the ball. On the Southern DB1k page (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/db1kssi.html) I've drawn the route onto topomaps (these will be updated after the prerun if necessary so you might not want to print them just yet). Take a copy of these with you in your back pack if you are worried about navigation as a back up to help you get going again.

Cheers R

[Skinny_Birdman]

If you rush you will most likely loose your place or miss a trip counter zeroing point which will make things tricky for a while.
If you want some practice there are a couple of charts starting in Christchurch floating around at home somewhere. We can jack up a ride sometime.
You go in front and navigate. :msn-wink:

Does this mean your DR 650 is back amongst the living?

[Transalper]

Not quite, not log now I hope :angry2::angry2::angry2:
Been giving Js one a bit of a workout lately doing the Tagorama, mostly on blacktop though.
Don't worry, I'll be anouncing to the world when I'm back with my own knobs on!! :pinch:
I predict visits to Lees Valley and Bossu Rd in the near future. My favourite roll chart also takes us up to Bossu and eventually round to Akaroa for lunch, a very long way to go though.

[cooneyr]

Oi SB and TA - take these discussions over here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=103919).

Cheers R

[_Shrek_]

The poll closes on the 31st July i.e. two Fridays away and it is looking like the weekend of the 16/17th Jan is a goer. If you want another date speak now or forever hold your peace (no not that piece!).

Cheers R

hiya R
I live in central these days & will likely be around that weekend or on the DB so will make my garage available ie: tools, arc & gas welders, compressor, tyre levers & beds etc...

ph num etc on profile

cheers :apint:
K

[cooneyr]

hiya R
I live in central these days & will likely be around that weekend or on the DB so will make my garage available ie: tools, arc & gas welders, compressor, tyre levers & beds etc...

ph num etc on profile

cheers :apint:
K

Gidday K. Thanks for the offer mate. Might catch up over labour weekend?

Cheers R

[_Shrek_]

Gidday K. Thanks for the offer mate. Might catch up over labour weekend?

Cheers R

sweet as :niceone:

[cooneyr]

Plans are progressing for the labour weekend pre-run. As said in the first post this will be a slower ride cause I will have to stop and write notes on the roll chart every now and then. It will be a good sociable/scenic ride if that is more your thing rather than the higher kms days (1 or 2 day) of the DB1k itself. Also it will probably be a bit more technically challenging cause conditions will probably be much muddier.

The idea at this stage is to stay overnight in Fairlie on the 23rd of October (we will probably travel down from Chch on Friday evening). Saturday will be through Mackenzies/Haka Pass, Danseys Pass, Old Dunstan 1 Track (eastern portion) to Lawrence area (maybe camp up at Ruralmans?). This will be about a 420km day which will probably take about 10/12 hours at a cruisy pace. We (chch people) need to get this much out of the way on the Sat so we can get back to Chch on the Monday.

Sunday will be Lake Onslow, Hawksburn Rd, Nevis (both ways), Carrictown Track to Cromwell. This will be about 420km and will probably take about 8/10 hours. We will probably find a spot/cabin at the motor camp.

Monday will be Thompson Gorge (rise and shine Rd), Omarama Saddle, Black Forest Station back to Fairlie. This will be about 300km which will take about 7/9 hours. I plan to bail back to Chch for the night (couple of hours up the road).

If you keen stick you name on the calender over here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&ea=attend&e=2091).

Cheers R

[cooneyr]

Draft roll chart is now on my DB1k SSI page (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/db1kssi.html). Only download and use this draft version if you are going to do the pre run because I will be revising this after the pre run for the January ride. This version has been created using computer based maps and my memory of the route so it is bound to have a few errors.

Cheers R

[Waihou Thumper]

when you get a GPS track of this, will we be able to do the ride using the GPS only rather than the roll chart?

[cooneyr]

when you get a GPS track of this, will we be able to do the ride using the GPS only rather than the roll chart?

Yup. I'll be making a single GPX file with somewhere between three and five routes with 250 points in each. You will have to change routes (probably at fuel stops) on the GPS partway though the ride. One 250 point route will have no where enough detail for the whole route. I'll do this after the pre-run cause better to do it with a track log than to make it on the PC.

Cheers R

[Ruralman]

Plans are progressing for the labour weekend pre-run. As said in the first post this will be a slower ride cause I will have to stop and write notes on the roll chart every now and then. It will be a good sociable/scenic ride if that is more your thing rather than the higher kms days (1 or 2 day) of the DB1k itself. Also it will probably be a bit more technically challenging cause conditions will probably be much muddier.

The idea at this stage is to stay overnight in Fairlie on the 23rd of October (we will probably travel down from Chch on Friday evening). Saturday will be through Mackenzies/Haka Pass, Danseys Pass, Old Dunstan 1 Track (eastern portion) to Lawrence area (maybe camp up at Ruralmans?). This will be about a 420km day which will probably take about 10/12 hours at a cruisy pace. We (chch people) need to get this much out of the way on the Sat so we can get back to Chch on the Monday.

Sunday will be Lake Onslow, Hawksburn Rd, Nevis (both ways), Carrictown Track to Cromwell. This will be about 420km and will probably take about 8/10 hours. We will probably find a spot/cabin at the motor camp.

Monday will be Thompson Gorge (rise and shine Rd), Omarama Saddle, Black Forest Station back to Fairlie. This will be about 300km which will take about 7/9 hours. I plan to bail back to Chch for the night (couple of hours up the road).

If you keen stick you name on the calender over here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&ea=attend&e=2091).

Cheers R

Hi - sounds like plans are well advanced. I don't know if I will be able to ride with you guys for some of this until nearer the time. We are usually getting well into tailing our lambs around then and need to take advantage of child labour at weekend s to get through it!! But we can certainly host some bikers overnight and with any luck I will still ride some of it with you.
There is a big local trail ride around then as well which I usually take my eldest son on but I don't have a date for that yet.
Last weekend we went for a ride over towards Lake Mahingerangi (probably the route you will take to my place - Mark/Cold Comfort wanted to get in some gravel riding on his DR650. I rode my Gas Gas and my boys came on the other trail bikes. It was a beaut warm day and a nice ride. I was pleased to be on the Gas Gas - without any discredit to the other riders the fact is that when you're on a 990/950 Adventure you can just ride these roads so much faster without even trying - so when doing the DB its going to be important to ride with similar machines/riders otherwise the 990/950 rider is going to get bored and frustrated and the 650 rider is going to be struggling and pushing harder than they should on a long ride.

[cooneyr]

Hi - sounds like plans are well advanced. I don't know if I will be able to ride with you guys for some of this until nearer the time. We are usually getting well into tailing our lambs around then and need to take advantage of child labour at weekend s to get through it!! But we can certainly host some bikers overnight and with any luck I will still ride some of it with you....

Geeze you fellas lamb late down there - must be miserable weather aye ;) Thanks for confirming the offer of the overnight stop.

Cheers R

[Ruralman]

Geeze you fellas lamb late down there - must be miserable weather aye ;) Thanks for confirming the offer of the overnight stop.

Cheers R

Just found out the local trail ride is on the 31st Oct so it won't clash.
Yes we do lamb later - I get well over 150% lambing without going anywhere near them, but to be able to feed sheep producing that many lambs we have pushed the lambing date back over the years to coincide with stronger grass growth. Doesn't stop us clashing with a few storms though!!
I should be able to get some play time in amoungst the tailing - we'll keep in touch

[topo]

149 days to go:Punk:

Looks like the "better" half is going to be able to make it down too (2day), common you lot time to sign on!

[Transalper]

Updates
Update 1- Date is the 16/17th Jan - see above.
Update 2- ONE Day riders Calendar (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2092&day=2010-1-16&c=6) - If you plan on doing the one day run please put your name on the calender
Update 3- TWO Day riders Calendar (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2093&day=2010-1-16&c=6) - If you plan on doing the one day run please put your name on the calender
Update 4- DRAFT roll chart for the Pre-run riders is available from the DB1k SSI page (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/db1kssi.html)....
.....Pre-Run Roll Chart Checking Ride
On Labour weekend (24-26 October) there will be a ride to check the Roll Chart is correct.....the Pre-Run Calendar (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2091&day=2009-10-24&c=6). More details in this post (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129341121&postcount=57).....


..... common you lot time to sign on!

Forgot there was a calendar event listing for this.
It is listed in post #1 and I quoted above.

I want to ride with the two dayers but also want to laugh with the SBC nutters. Oh decisions decisions. Will be there for the route checking ride anyway, may be easier to decide after that.

[mattsdakar]

I'm all signed up for the one dayer. Just got leave approved
Unfortunately I'm working labour weekend so won't be doing the test run
Also just purchased and fitted 17litre Safari tank from TM so all I need now is cast iron arse!
DRZ400 seat is not the most confortable so guess that's going to be a great motivator to go a little faster.
Bring it on!

[cooneyr]

Forgot there was a calendar event listing for this.
It is listed in post #1 and I quoted above.

I want to ride with the two dayers but also want to laugh with the SBC nutters. Oh decisions decisions. Will be there for the route checking ride anyway, may be easier to decide after that.

Doh - thanks for highlighting the fact that there is a calendar to sign on with. Take it that you didn't find the ride with us SBC riders too painful the day then ;)


I'm all signed up for the one dayer. Just got leave approved
Unfortunately I'm working labour weekend so won't be doing the test run
Also just purchased and fitted 17litre Safari tank from TM so all I need now is cast iron arse!
DRZ400 seat is not the most confortable so guess that's going to be a great motivator to go a little faster.
Bring it on!

Your a nutter - I can't see how anybody could handle the DB1k 1 dayer on a stock DRZ400 or similar seat! :blink: Good news about the tank.

Cheers R

[mattsdakar]

Your a nutter - I can't see how anybody could handle the DB1k 1 dayer on a stock DRZ400 or similar seat! :blink: Good news about the tank.

Cheers R[/QUOTE]

Yep, you know I'm a nutter!
Will definitely have a sheep skin fitted and thinking of cutting up my camping snowfoam for a bit of extra padding.
Think I will be pretty good at riding standing up after this ride!

[MXNUT]

Your a nutter - I can't see how anybody could handle the DB1k 1 dayer on a stock DRZ400 or similar seat! :blink: Good news about the tank.

Cheers R



I did 600 kms in 1 day on an adventure ride earlier this year on my DRZ with
a stock seat and had to ride the last 75 kms standing up i was so sore.

Walked like a Homo for the next 2 days after

So good luck :stupid:

[NordieBoy]

Your a nutter - I can't see how anybody could handle the DB1k 1 dayer on a stock DRZ400 or similar seat! :blink:

Day 1 of the 2 dayer wasn't nice on the bottom but by the end of day 2 it wasn't a problem any more.

I would have preferred doing it on the 650 though.

[cooneyr]

Day 1 of the 2 dayer wasn't nice on the bottom but by the end of day 2 it wasn't a problem any more.

I would have preferred doing it on the 650 though.

What cause your arse has expired and had left the building LOL!

Cheers R

[cynna]

got my leave for labour weekend - not too sure i can make it in january now tho.

just added bar risers to make standing up easier for me - just need to go out and practice now

cant wait for october

[Jantar]

I've signed on for the 1 day ride assuming I'll have the TS125 up and running by then. If its the DL1000 then I'll do the 2 day ride. Now how's that for irony? :rolleyes:

[XF650]

I've signed on for the 1 day ride assuming I'll have the TS125 up and running by then. If its the DL1000 then I'll do the 2 day ride. Now how's that for irony? :rolleyes:

"Irony" is an understatement.

[XF650]

The old Moa Creek Pub is booked for the 2 Dayers overnight digs. Great spot & can sleep approx 20, B&B style. Ryan will need to know numbers soon to negotiate a good rate, but it will be cheap.

Pic is when we stopped for refreshments @ the Pub, after crossing very muddy lower Dunstan Trail enroute to Brass Monkey 08.

[helenoftroy]

149 days to go:Punk:

Looks like the "better" half is going to be able to make it down too (2day), common you lot time to sign on!

Awesome!!Will be great to see you guys!!

Skinny Birdman persuade your lovely wife to join us girls too....:banana:

[Aslan]

The old Moa Creek Pub is booked for the 2 Dayers overnight digs. Great spot & can sleep approx 20, B&B style. Ryan will need to know numbers soon to negotiate a good rate, but it will be cheap.

Pic is when we stopped for refreshments @ the Pub, after crossing very muddy lower Dunstan Trail enroute to Brass Monkey 08.

yes please - keen to stay at Moa Creek - intending to be a two dayer - will sign on in the calendar - prolly bring my beemer unless I wimp out and default to the lighter DR at the last minute - cheers Aslan:banana:

[Underground]

Book us in for Moa creek too, do they have doubles?
We're doing the 2dayr 2up ...Anyone else 2up'ing ?
At this stage Mountie and his pillion (my wifes sister) may be joining us ,hollidays permitting .
Although she may be looking for a place in a support vehicle after the ride down from Tauranga .
We will have to get a bit of a pilgrimage organised for the norf of the south'ers ,maybe via Molesworth or Rainbow ?

[cooneyr]

I've signed on for the 1 day ride assuming I'll have the TS125 up and running by then. If its the DL1000 then I'll do the 2 day ride. Now how's that for irony? :rolleyes:

Thats classic:clap:. So why do we all have 650ish + machines!


The old Moa Creek Pub is booked for the 2 Dayers overnight digs. Great spot & can sleep approx 20, B&B style. Ryan will need to know numbers soon to negotiate a good rate, but it will be cheap.

Pic is when we stopped for refreshments @ the Pub, after crossing very muddy lower Dunstan Trail enroute to Brass Monkey 08.

Thanks for organising this XF. I'll put a note about this in the first post. If people want a bed put your name on the 2 day calendar (easiest way for me to keep track).


....Although she may be looking for a place in a support vehicle after the ride down from Tauranga .
We will have to get a bit of a pilgrimage organised for the norf of the south'ers ,maybe via Molesworth or Rainbow ?

Speaking of which I still need to find a support vehicle for the two day riders. Anybody know somebody?

Good idea on the Molesworth etc for those coming from the north.

Cheers R

[JATZ]

We're signed up for the 2 day brie and crackers tour.Solong as the bikes hold together, might even drag the young fella along

[Transalper]

Have considered the options a bit more and put my name on the calendar for the two dayer as the more likely bet for me this year too.

[Skinny_Birdman]

Awesome!!Will be great to see you guys!!

Skinny Birdman persuade your lovely wife to join us girls too....:banana:
Err, you may have to do the donkey work as far as convincing her goes, I suspect. She is pretty reluctant at this stage, but we will get her out on some rides and see how we go.


Have considered the options a bit more and put my name on the calendar for the two dayer as the more likely bet for me this year too.

Aw shucks. A sudden attack of common sense, the last thing we need.

Cheers
A

[Ruralman]

Book us in for Moa creek too, do they have doubles?
We're doing the 2dayr 2up ...Anyone else 2up'ing ?
At this stage Mountie and his pillion (my wifes sister) may be joining us ,hollidays permitting .
Although she may be looking for a place in a support vehicle after the ride down from Tauranga .
We will have to get a bit of a pilgrimage organised for the norf of the south'ers ,maybe via Molesworth or Rainbow ?

I hadn't seriously considered doing this two up - was regarding it as a one day seriously fast gravel bash. However your post has me considering this as a two day event where I take the Princess with me at a more relaxed pace and take her into the back of beyond to see some places she won't have been before.
I will have to have a talk with her about the dates etc but I expect we'll be a starter for the 2 day event and also looking for a "2 up" room for the night :yes:

[Transalper]

ho hum, I've taken my name off the calendar for the pre run route check.
Going to take advantage of the weekend to cycle the Otago Rail Trail instead... weather permitting. Was going to do that Show weekend but since J and I already get half of most Fridays off anyway it makes more sense for us to do the cycling trip when its the Monday that's a Public Holiday.

[Transalper]

Well bugger me, seems people made plans around us going away LAbour Weekend and so it's back to plan A.
My name is back on the calander for the route checking weekend.

[.chris]

It looks like I shall be in Fairlie around the time of the DB1k, I am not that keen on 1000km, I think I may join you guys for the start down to Kurow, and maybe meet you guys on your way back north over at Benmore.

Would that be acceptable?

[cooneyr]

It looks like I shall be in Fairlie around the time of the DB1k, I am not that keen on 1000km, I think I may join you guys for the start down to Kurow, and maybe meet you guys on your way back north over at Benmore.

Would that be acceptable?

You do realise that there is a two day option i.e. ~500kms per day? Guess it is not that obvious on the first post. We are trying to organise accommodation for the two day riders.

It would be pretty hard to meet up with the one day riders coming north again as there could be 5 hours between the front and back groups. Also you would have to kill maybe 10 to 15 hours between Kurow and Benmore - a 30 minute trip.

Cheers R

[.chris]

You do realise that there is a two day option i.e. ~500kms per day? Guess it is not that obvious on the first post. We are trying to organise accommodation for the two day riders.

It would be pretty hard to meet up with the one day riders coming north again as there could be 5 hours between the front and back groups. Also you would have to kill maybe 10 to 15 hours between Kurow and Benmore - a 30 minute trip.

Cheers R
Yes, I knew there was the 2 day option, I am also seriously considering doing that.

I have friends around the Kurow/Waimate area, figured I would spend the day with them, and just try my luck at meeting the group around benmore. I am sure I could find a spot with a nice sunny outlook to enjoy a book for a few hours while I wait for you lot to come through.

But thinking about it more the 2 day event might be better.

[cooneyr]

Yes, I knew there was the 2 day option, I am also seriously considering doing that.

I have friends around the Kurow/Waimate area, figured I would spend the day with them, and just try my luck at meeting the group around benmore. I am sure I could find a spot with a nice sunny outlook to enjoy a book for a few hours while I wait for you lot to come through.

But thinking about it more the 2 day event might be better.

I've found, as an ex Waimo, that your better not to mention that you have any association with the place :msn-wink:

The two day ride would be even betterer and sitting in a nice sunny spot :niceone:

Cheers R

[.chris]

I've found, as an ex Waimo, that your better not to mention that you have any association with the place :msn-wink:

The two day ride would be even betterer and sitting in a nice sunny spot :niceone:

Cheers R

Yeah I think you are right, about the ride and about Waimate.
I just have some friends who live on the outskirts. I am an ex-Fairlie boy, so well aware of what the Waimate water can do people.

+ 1 for the two day ride.

[cooneyr]

Labour weekend is quickly approaching so I've been making a few calls about accommodation for the DB1k Pre run. I've been trying to find cheap country pubs or camping grounds for Friday the 23rd and Sunday the 25th of October. We will be staying with Ruralman on Saturday the 24th.

At Ruralmans there are beds, bunks and mattress on the floor for a few of us - about 6 I understand. Guessing you will have to take your own bedding/sleeping bags etc - Ruralman can you let us know what we need to bring? My Bro and I are taking tents cause there will not be enough beds.

So my suggestion is we all book in at

Albury Tavern for Fri the 23rd. Their accommodation web page is here (http://alburytavern.com/rooms.html). Prices are Shared single $20, Single private $35, Double or twin $45 and $10 for a tent site in the paddock out the back. Phone number is 03 6855910
Cairnmuir Camping Ground for Sunday the 25th. Couple of web pages here (http://www.cromwell.org.nz/cairnmuir/) and here (http://www.nzcamping.co.nz/camp.php?id=736). From my phone call it seems they have a few bunk rooms left including 2 bed, 5 bed (two rooms) and 8 bed (one room) cabins. Cost is $30 per cabin plus $12 per person so $27pp for the 2 bed, $18pp for the 5 bed and $15.75pp for the 8 bed. Obviously tent sites as well for $16pp. There Bannockburn Hotel (restaurant only) is not to far away or we can go "down town"


Both these places had beds when I called but I'd suggest those that have their name down for the pre run get on an organise their own accommodation.

I've rung a few places now and most are $60pp or more or don't have space. If any of the locals have any good suggestions feel free to let me know ASAP.

Cheers R

P.S. Down town from the Cairnmuir Camping Ground is Cromwell.

[cynna]

[QUOTE=cooneyr;1129424676]
From my phone call it seems they have a few bunk rooms left including 2 bed, 5 bed (two rooms) and 8 bed (one room) cabins. Cost is $30 per cabin plus $12 per person so $27pp for the 2 bed, $18pp for the 5 bed and $15.75pp for the 8 bed. Obviously tent sites as well for $16pp. There Bannockburn Hotel (restaurant only) is not to far away or we can go "down town"
[/LIST]




so we need to book this as a group of 2, 5 or 8 if we want a cabin. i will put my name down for one bed - anyone else want to add there name so i can book a cabin

[cooneyr]

Thats the idea Cynna.

One more thing I need to mention is that I rang a couple of farms about going through cause of lambing etc. We are NOT going to be doing

the loop via Menzies Rd and Myers Pass to the east of the Haka
Black Forest Road

We really don't want to piss the farmers off or we might not get access for the DB itself.

We will have to go straight down most of the Haka and will jump back onto the route for the last 10 kms or so. To get around Black Forest we will have to go up the highway from Omarama to the dam at the end of Lake Pukaki then go down the roads alongside the Pukaki River to get the Haldon at the northern end of Black Forest.

I will have info so people can write the new instructions on the roll chart in Albury.

Cheers R

[Transalper]

so we need to book this as a group of 2, 5 or 8 if we want a cabin. i will put my name down for one bed - anyone else want to add there name so i can book a cabinI'll bunk in with ya cynna if you're making the call.

[cynna]

I'll bunk in with ya cynna if you're making the call.

sweet so thats 2 of us so far. anyone else want want a bed in a cabin? let me know by tues morning so i can book one. need another 3 people for the next size cabin

[cooneyr]

sweet so thats 2 of us so far. anyone else want want a bed in a cabin? let me know by tues morning so i can book one. need another 3 people for the next size cabin

I see that Hamjet has removed his name and Jatz sent a PM saying that his bike wont be ready. So there is only XR650 and XF650 left to let us know if they want accommodation.

Cheers R

[XF650]

I see that Hamjet has removed his name and Jatz sent a PM saying that his bike wont be ready. So there is only XR650 and XF650 left to let us know if they want accommodation.

Cheers R

Yes, count me in thanks (although you will probably regret the invitation)

[cooneyr]

Yes, count me in thanks (although you will probably regret the invitation)

It will be all good. This is going to be a pretty relaxed ride cause I'll have to spend time correcting the roll chart and El Scooto will be two up. Should have plenty of time to take the sites in.

Cheers R

[mattsdakar]

I see that Hamjet has removed his name and Jatz sent a PM saying that his bike wont be ready. So there is only XR650 and XF650 left to let us know if they want accommodation.

Cheers R

Ryan, don't think Ian (XR650) is going Labour weekend, so count him out

[cooneyr]

Ryan, don't think Ian (XR650) is going Labour weekend, so count him out

OK so Cynna, Transalper and XF650 are the only ones that want a cabin at Cromwell (Cairnmure).

[cynna]

for the friday night cabin i havent had a reply back from my email and havent got hold of them on the ph yet so will keep trying

booked a cabin at Cairnmuir for the sunday night. the info she gave me was different from Cooneyrs post. hope she knew what she was on about. she said there are 3 person cabins for $15 pp so thats what i booked - once i got off the ph i noticed thats cheaper then the tent site price and the prices that were quoted in the above post..... so it may be a bit darer when we get down there. that booking is for me XF650 and TAer

[cooneyr]

for the friday night cabin i havent had a reply back from my email and havent got hold of them on the ph yet so will keep trying.....

You may already realise but in case you dont the Albury Tavern is a Country Pub with rooms not cabins.

Dont worry about what I said re Cainmure, if you got a quote of $15pp for a three bed cabin then stick too it.

Cheers R

[Mountie]

Just had my leave approved, so me and the missus will be down from the norf to attend the event. Attempting it two up. The two day jobbie. Also a friend from Rotorua is keen. Solo on a KTM 690.Be good to cover some old ground and see some new & put some faces to names.

[cooneyr]

Just had my leave approved, so me and the missus will be down from the norf to attend the event. Attempting it two up. The two day jobbie. Also a friend from Rotorua is keen. Solo on a KTM 690.Be good to cover some old ground and see some new & put some faces to names.

Sweet. Be cool to have some more north islanders down. It should be OK two up if you have pillioned a bit and it sounds like you know the terrain. Keen to lay eyes on a F800GS ;)

Cheers R

[Woodman]

Ok I,m in for this one, the one day option sounds like a lotta fun.:clap::clap:

I will read more about it to see what i have got myself in for, what I need etc.

[Waihou Thumper]

I will be making the trip down, I now work regular hours so can plan things better....Beats shift work in some ways. :clap:
I will probably come down on a Friday, do the ride either one or two dayer, dunno bout that yet....:drool:
Maybe the two dayer....Anyway, then plan on using some of the routes heading north for maybe three days or so, including the Molesworth, Rainbow and of course some knarlier ones possibly...
It will be my first time in the Sth Island on a Motorbike....really! :Playnice:
I have tramped it, worked it, sailed around it, camped on it, driven it, raced in it, ridden a Mountain Bike around it....NOT ridden it on a KTM.....:rolleyes:
So, this will be something to look forward to especially if it is 80% metal roads, give or take! anything without a white line suits me.....:)

[.chris]

Anyway, then plan on using some of the routes heading north for maybe three days or so, including the Molesworth, Rainbow and of course some knarlier ones possibly...

Might be keen to join you on one or two of those if the timing is right for me heading back up.

[Waihou Thumper]

Might be keen to join you on one or two of those if the timing is right for me heading back up.

Thanks to the DB of past years there are plenty of trails and tracks and roads mentioned that I want to try out...Reefton way, Port Underwood, etc...some of my old haunts from days gone by....Plus, I am sure we might get a few others together and hit roads north, see if we can ride north without hitting SHWY1 until Blenheim, should be do-able with a bit of planning, more metal the better....:2thumbsup

[JATZ]

The jatz clan are gunna head down on the Wednesday before, via the West Coast at this stage and then come back up the East Coast and through the Rainbow, maybe the Molesworth too.
Hopefully have the young fullah along so it won't be a fast trip.
We plan on not being home before the Wednesday after the event

[junkmanjoe]

i also are plaining to tag along with the Jatz clan..
if i can swindle few days off work...
take the scenic route, at a leisurely pace....

JMJ

[Aslan]

i also are plaining to tag along with the Jatz clan..
if i can swindle few days off work...
take the scenic route, at a leisurely pace....

JMJ

leisurely pace JMJ - that's not what the big Katooms are all about! :)

[.chris]

leisurely pace JMJ - that's not what the big Katooms are all about! :)

*phew* glad I did not buy a big one then. :dodge:

Anyone planning to be around the Fairlie area prior to the ride?
I will be there from about the 10th of Jan, will be ripping around the place probably doing a few trail rides around friends farms and what-not.

[cynna]

i have my leave all sorted so will be doing the 2 dayer ..... if i survive the prerun that is

[junkmanjoe]

leisurely pace JMJ - that's not what the big Katooms are all about! :)

ill call it the taming in ride.. becoming one with the beast...
well thats the plan any how..

JMJ

[JATZ]

The Ten came home today :banana:
I'm now trying to convince MrsJatz to let ME run it in gently of course by joining you's fullahs,for the run through this w/end, will see how things progress
What day are you leaving ?

[cooneyr]

The Ten came home today :banana:
I'm now trying to convince MrsJatz to let ME run it in gently of course by joining you's fullahs,for the run through this w/end, will see how things progress
What day are you leaving ?

I assume you mean our trip round the block down south this weekend? We are meeting in Albury Pub (16km towards Timaru from Fairlie) on Friday night for a 9am kick off on Saturday. Finish the ride on Monday with a blat up the plains to Chch. One of our fellow riders has decided not to join us for the weekend so if the bed bookings have not been cancelled there may be a space available.

Gonna be a big run for a running in ride!!! Only about 2500kms from NN down and back again!

Cheers R

[Woodman]

Hmmm, just read the entire thread, I may need some lessons from someone locally in the know on them rollchart thingys.
Also will it be an ass if in a week or so I opt out of the one day and go to the 2 day?
The one day looks like a pretty good challenge so is veeeery apealing.
Does it start and finish in Fairlie? Edit ..Answered. Read Ryans website. Very impressed . Thanks

Things to think about/organise.

Accomodation.
Tyres
Route their and back.
A one day buddy/group.
Not getting lost.
Lots of other stuff I haven,t thought of.

Looking forward to it either way.

[zeRax]

my one concern is navigation really, im hopeless ! :D

[Underground]

my one concern is navigation really, im hopeless ! :D

Thats ok ,we could team up with woodman and he can learn to navigate , you can shoot ahead on that ning ning and open the gates and I'll .. well ... coordinate .:)

[cynna]

my one concern is navigation really, im hopeless ! :D

dont be put off by using roll charts. i had my first go this weekend and had no problems. i quite enjoyed the challange of riding and keeping my eye on the chart and tripmeter. i had more of a problem when i was following and not keeping an eye on my chart and missing a turn off or 2 that the others had taken

Cooneyr has done a great job on the roll chart and with a few updates from the prerun will be foolproof

[Woodman]

How do you print the roll charts? (to a non a4 format)or do you draw them on a eftpos roll or similar.

[CrazyFrog]

How do you print the roll charts? (to a non a4 format)or do you draw them on a eftpos roll or similar.

My experience of these is they're printed on A4 or A3 in strips of 3-4, you then get busy with the scissors and sticky tape and join em all up.
Usually takes an hour or so to join up a whole route, but better and less time consuming than getting lost!

[JATZ]

will be foolproof

You havn't met Woodman yet have you :D :whistle:

you could always get a GPS Woodman :gob:

[Transalper]

The software being used for the DB roll chart unfortunately has a bug in it that only prints one strip on an A4 sheet so when the finial .pdf is ready for download and printing to save some paper you'll probably be best to print half it then turn the pages around and print the other half so you get two strips per page then cut with scissors/craft knife etc and tape in order.

[Ruralman]

The software being used for the DB roll chart unfortunately has a bug in it that only prints one strip on an A4 sheet so when the finial .pdf is ready for download and printing to save some paper you'll probably be best to print half it then turn the pages around and print the other half so you get two strips per page then cut with scissors/craft knife etc and tape in order.

Hmmm - GPS or cheap?? - trouble with the route planner/roll chart is you sometimes need to know where you are which could be a bit puzzling if you've got into the riding groove and missed a turnoff or something - at least the GPS tells you where you are and where you should be going?

[Transalper]

That's all part of it and that's also the problem I suffer when following another rider.
In keeping them in sight I don't always take the time to reset my trip counter or roll the cart on as required and so loose which number we are up to.
Then if they get a bit confused and want to check with me where we are at... well I have no Idea, I've just been following you and lost my place ages ago.

[XF650]

The one time i'v used route sheets was on the CCA Ride. Trouble was I had changed front sprocket on the DT230 (speedo pick-up is off the countershaft) & so trip meter calibration was up the wop.
Same things going to happen once I change Freewind front wheel from 19" to 21" - speedo drive is via front hub.
So it looks like I had better ask Santa for a GPS.

[cooneyr]

Using the roll chart is all part of the challenge. If you do use one you really need to make an effort to check the distance to the next turn and the name of the road or what the feature (gate, ford etc) is after you have made the previous turn and keep an eye on your trip meter. For most of the route the instructions are 5-30kms apart i.e. heaps of time, but around the towns they could be 100-500m apart just to keep you on your toes.

As a back up I'd suggest you take a print out of the topo maps on my web site so if all else fails you can pull them out of your pack to figure out which direction to head to get back to the route/nearest town etc. Cynna did pretty bloody well as a first time users with next to no instruction (I gave him some hints after he had already done a few hundred kms).

When I have finished revising the roll chart I'll put a hints/notes page at the front of the PDF which should help explain how to use it more.

Cheers R

[Woodman]

you could always get a GPS Woodman :gob:

May well just do that.

[JATZ]

May well just do that.

I'll stick a route in mine and you can borrow it if you like, see if it'd your cup of tea, so to speak
If I'm not too busy tomorrow I may trot across the road and see ya

[Woodman]

I'll stick a route in mine and you can borrow it if you like, see if it'd your cup of tea, so to speak
If I'm not too busy tomorrow I may trot across the road and see ya

Yea that would be bloody good, otherwise if Mrs Woodman gets me one for chrissy I will only have a couple of weeks to learn how to use it proper like.

[umopom]

Hi Coonyer
How did the pre-run go? Just want to confirm that I (umopom) and VFRmuss are down for the two day - few questions - can you confirm accomodation for Sat16th yet? and do you know of any spaces in the Farlie area for the Friday15th? - also any indication on when you might have the rollchart finalised?
Cheers J

[Transalper]

lol, the man's very busy and a long way off finalising stuff.
There's half a ride report floating around here somewhere (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=519881) and we didn't get the whole route checked yet.

[cooneyr]

Hi Coonyer
How did the pre-run go? Just want to confirm that I (umopom) and VFRmuss are down for the two day - few questions - can you confirm accomodation for Sat16th yet? and do you know of any spaces in the Farlie area for the Friday15th? - also any indication on when you might have the rollchart finalised?
Cheers J

Whoa - like TA said things are rather busy at home and work so I have to fit this in when I can. Grump pregnant wife doesnt help either!

The pre-run went well and we found that I need to do a bit more work on the roll chart. This will likely be something that I start working on next week.

Regarding accomodation, I'd suggest that people do start booking accomodation in Fairlie (15th/16th or 17th depening on which ride you do). There are two pubs in town, two or three motels and a camping ground. There are also pubs in Albury (sounds like this is closing though!) and Kimbell which are 20mins away from Fairlie

We went to check up on accomodation options for the two day riders saturday night but the place is only open by appointment only so I've got to ring them about what our options are soon. With regard to bookings for the Sat night I'll use the numbers on the two day ride calendar (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2093&day=2010-1-16&c=6) when I call the place but it will be up to the individuals to book. I'm not taking responsibility for handling cash etc. Also I plan on being close to finshed when you all arrive at the Sat night stop. I'm doing the one day Small Bore Challenge and am thinking of starting on the Friday evening and finishing Sat evening if all goes well.

Watch this space for more action over the next couple of weeks.

Cheers R

[dino3310]

just saw your pre-ride write up on ADV, looks soooo awesome, will have to get down there one year soon, a diffinate Must do for any kiwi ADV rider.

[umopom]

Hi Cooneyr
Thanks for that - didn't mean to be pushy - will wait and watch.
Cheer J

[cooneyr]

Hi Cooneyr
Thanks for that - didn't mean to be pushy - will wait and watch.
Cheer J

No worries. Good things take time aye ;)

Cheers R

[Woodman]

I'll stick a route in mine and you can borrow it if you like, see if it'd your cup of tea, so to speak
If I'm not too busy tomorrow I may trot across the road and see ya

Cheers for the loan of the gps jatz,:2thumbsup I been having a good play on the couch, but like you said I think i need the instructions cos can't seem to find the routes with the arrows.

Are you able to drop em off tomorrow or I can come over the road and get them.:2thumbsup

[JATZ]

Cheers for the loan of the gps jatz,:2thumbsup I been having a good play on the couch, but like you said I think i need the instructions cos can't seem to find the routes with the arrows.

Are you able to drop em off tomorrow or I can come over the road and get them.:2thumbsup

I'll have a hunt around tonight, and get the mapsource CD

[Crisis management]

Apparently I'm doing the DB this time thanks to Rogerson, once I figure out what he's keen on (one day, two day...) I will oficially put my name down.

Now, whats the best route from Auckland to the south, let me see.....

[cooneyr]

just saw your pre-ride write up on ADV, looks soooo awesome, will have to get down there one year soon, a diffinate Must do for any kiwi ADV rider.

Not a bad part of the country aye ;) If you took your time to take the countryside in an adv rider could speed a couple of weeks down round Otago easily.


I'll have a hunt around tonight, and get the mapsource CD

If you can't find the CD it is pretty easy to get the Garmin update to run as a complete install. The update download is actually a complete install and the "security" is unbelieably easy to work around.


Apparently I'm doing the DB this time thanks to Rogerson, once I figure out what he's keen on (one day, two day...) I will oficially put my name down.

Now, whats the best route from Auckland to the south, let me see.....

Well once you hit the SI the Molesworth should be open, the Rainbow will be open, Mangatapu, Port Underwood, There is a few good roads (paper and gravel) around north canterbury, Lees Valley, Porters Pass, Lake Lindon/Lake Colderidge Roads, Inland Rd (seal unfortunatly) down to Fairlie then pick your way throught the back roads down to Fairlie or just ride the seal which aint half bad (some nice curves).

Cheers R

[.chris]

Apparently I'm doing the DB this time thanks to Rogerson, once I figure out what he's keen on (one day, two day...) I will oficially put my name down.

Now, whats the best route from Auckland to the south, let me see.....

Good job, Aucklander single cylinder ktm's reprasent!

[helenoftroy]

Anyone like to share costs in a farm cottage at Fairlie?

[Waihou Thumper]

Cheers for the loan of the gps jatz,:2thumbsup I been having a good play on the couch, but like you said I think i need the instructions cos can't seem to find the routes with the arrows.

Are you able to drop em off tomorrow or I can come over the road and get them.:2thumbsup

I see a road book there fellas, will there be or is there a GPS track or log of this ride? I dont mind using either really but the GPS will be nice, guess it will have to be in a few parts though given the number of waypoints?

Thanks...

[Woodman]

been playing with it today in the car and have figured it out mostly. Mrs woodman may get me one for chrissy.

[JATZ]

been playing with it today in the car and have figured it out mostly. Mrs woodman may get me one for chrissy.

I'll still bring the stuff in to work and drop it off, then you can load maps and routes and stuff onto it

[Transalper]

Anyone like to share costs in a farm cottage at Fairlie?
Pick me..... pick me :wavey:
How many will it take?

[cooneyr]

I see a road book there fellas, will there be or is there a GPS track or log of this ride? I dont mind using either really but the GPS will be nice, guess it will have to be in a few parts though given the number of waypoints?

Thanks...

Def will be GPS route to follow. Will probably do a couple of versions one that is maybe 5 routes with 50 points and one that is two parts with 250 points or something like that.

Cheers R

[JATZ]

Pick me..... pick me :wavey:
How many will it take?

And us too please :wavey:, 3 of us, I dunno what JMJ's doing about accom.

[helenoftroy]

Pick me..... pick me :wavey:
How many will it take?


And us too please :wavey:, 3 of us, I dunno what JMJ's doing about accom.

Sorted!!:woohoo:

[timg]

Sorted!!:woohoo: Room for 1 more? :)

[helenoftroy]

Room for 1 more? :)
Just waiting to hear how many the sleepout sleeps.....will keep you posted!!:sunny:

[timg]

Just waiting to hear how many the sleepout sleeps.....will keep you posted!!:sunny: Make that 2 more - the lovely Queen of the Hobbits :love: has decided to join our merry band. Ryan we have a back up vehicle and trailer :woohoo: QOTH won't be riding.

[cooneyr]

Make that 2 more - the lovely Queen of the Hobbits :love: has decided to join our merry band. Ryan we have a back up vehicle and trailer :woohoo: QOTH won't be riding.

Cool, maybe QOTH might like to chase the two day riders around? Not sure what vehicle you have but even if she does the easy bits and seal around the harder bit maybe?

Cheers R

[helenoftroy]

Make that 2 more - the lovely Queen of the Hobbits :love: has decided to join our merry band. Ryan we have a back up vehicle and trailer :woohoo: QOTH won't be riding.

Thats awesome news!!:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

[Underground]

I just booked another of the cottages at the same farm that HOT has for our lot. we are full at this stage but will keep posted .
Lady sounds real friendly there and it looks like there will be quite a group of us there :woohoo:

[Woodman]

has anyone booked any accommodation in Fairlie yet? Just thinking ahead about options etc and semi planning my trip there and back.
And um silly question from a noob. Is the one dayer on the Saturday 16th?

[cooneyr]

has anyone booked any accommodation in Fairlie yet? Just thinking ahead about options etc and semi planning my trip there and back.
And um silly question from a noob. Is the one dayer on the Saturday 16th?

See previous posts by many are getting Fairlie accom sorted for the 15th (Fri). Not sure if people are plaining on staying again on the 17th (Sun) or are heading home.

The one day has traditionally started on the same day as the two day riders i.e. the morning of the 16th. My Bro and I who are doing the Small Bore Challange are thingking of starting at about 8pm on the Friday night so we are not physically done in over the night leg.

Cheers R

[Woodman]

See previous posts by many are getting Fairlie accom sorted for the 15th (Fri). Not sure if people are plaining on staying again on the 17th (Sun) or are heading home.

The one day has traditionally started on the same day as the two day riders i.e. the morning of the 16th. My Bro and I who are doing the Small Bore Challange are thingking of starting at about 8pm on the Friday night so we are not physically done in over the night leg.

Cheers R

cheers will get my a into g and sort sumit. Possibly a cabin at the park in fairlie.

[XF650]

I'm in Farlie tomorrow if anyone wants digs & prices checked out.

[topo]

For anyone heading down fron nelson i'll be taking the hilux down so will have room for extra gear, i'll be heading down on the Friday and back on the sunday (can hang around to retrieve SBC bikes on the sunday if needed).

[cynna]

cheers will get my a into g and sort sumit. Possibly a cabin at the park in fairlie.

i booked in at the gladstone grand. was 30 single and i think a double was 45

http://www.fairlie.co.nz/html/gladstone.html

[cooneyr]

i booked in at the gladstone grand. was 30 single and i think a double was 45

http://www.fairlie.co.nz/html/gladstone.html

I have some interesting memories of the Gladstone - use to stay there when I worked for Fulton Hogan in a chip sealling (tar sealing for you old buggers) crew during Uni holidays. Involved a bit much of this :apint: and a bit of feeling like this :sick: the next morning!

On a more serious note - XF650 has been speaking to the proprietor of the Gladstone and they have offered to do B&B for $35 per person (630am breaky). This is a special rate for our group apparently and they want us to put together a list of names first and give that to them. They do not want cash now but if you are interested please PM XF650 (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=2169) to put your name on the list. Id suggest that people do this in the next couple of weeks i.e. by 22 November. XF650 may have more to add about this later.

The other thing the Gladstone has offered is a BBQ meal in their beer garden, or inside if wet, on the Friday night for $10pp. Are people generally interested in this offer? If a few are interested we'll organised this. It saves the hassle of having to take food and a BBQ down and solves the problem of finding somewhere to have the BBQ.

Cheers R

[helenoftroy]

The BBQ sounds like an excellent idea!

[Woodman]

pm sent.....

[.chris]

The other thing the Gladstone has offered is a BBQ meal in their beer garden, or inside if wet, on the Friday night for $10pp. Are people generally interested in this offer? If a few are interested we'll organised this. It saves the hassle of having to take food and a BBQ down and solves the problem of finding somewhere to have the BBQ.

Cheers R

Keen for that BBQ idea.

[NordieBoy]

BBQ :woohoo:

[XF650]

OK, it looks like the Gladstone Pub is going to be the Dusty Butt Headquarters, if that's still OK with you Ryan.
I spoke to the publican again this morning and we have decided that both the accomodation bookings at this pub and the Fiday night BBQ social bookings should be coordinated through me. Ryan's got enough to do without worrying about feeding you lot.

I'll post up the other Fairlie (town) accomodation options tonight - I got round most of them last night & have prices etc. It's a small place & they are all within walking distance to the Gladstone.

[cynna]

im all ready booked in but am keen for the bbq

[thepom]

I ll be up for food and accommodation if anything is left,fixed the Africa up but missing the left side panel but thats no problem and got my eye on a cheap lighter dirt bike if I can hide it from the missus.....

[Woodman]

OK, it looks like the Gladstone Pub is going to be the Dusty Butt Headquarters, if that's still OK with you Ryan.
I spoke to the publican again this morning and we have decided that both the accomodation bookings at this pub and the Fiday night BBQ social bookings should be coordinated through me. Ryan's got enough to do without worrying about feeding you lot.

I'll post up the other Fairlie (town) accomodation options tonight - I got round most of them last night & have prices etc. It's a small place & they are all within walking distance to the Gladstone.

Sent the publica an email, yesterday but have not heard back yet. I am keen for you to organise it (speights)but as i am doing the one dayer I will only need the 15th and 16th cos I am probly gonna tootle homewards the next day:bye:,unless I'm too fooked.

[NordieBoy]

......unless I'm too fooked.

Or the bike is...

:shutup:

[Woodman]

Or the bike is...

:shutup:

As long as nothing gets knocked off she'll be sweet.

Anyone got any estimates on how long in hours this may take. (Ryan)

[mattsdakar]

OK, it looks like the Gladstone Pub is going to be the Dusty Butt Headquarters, if that's still OK with you Ryan.
I spoke to the publican again this morning and we have decided that both the accomodation bookings at this pub and the Fiday night BBQ social bookings should be coordinated through me. Ryan's got enough to do without worrying about feeding you lot.

I'll post up the other Fairlie (town) accomodation options tonight - I got round most of them last night & have prices etc. It's a small place & they are all within walking distance to the Gladstone.

PM sent
Happy to share a room on the Friday night at the Gladstone
See you all there!

[Transalper]

Anyone got any estimates on how long in hours this may take. (Ryan)That'd be a bit hard to estimate being a new route and not really knowing how you go on endurance runs.
You need to avoid falling off or breaking things in order to assist in completing the route within 24 hours.

2008 Northern route 1dayers took between 17 and 22 hours (3 different groups did the 1 day run that year).
2009 some reported 16 hours.
There's no way I could do that safely, even without stopping I wouldn't be able to avoid oncoming traffic/trees or tickets at the speeds required.
My Northern route completion time was about 19 hours, 45 minutes on the DR650 the one time I finished without incident.

[XF650]

Options are here: http://www.fairlie.co.nz/html/accommodation_.html
For accomodation bookings other than the Gladstone Pub, please contact the listings direct. Most now know about the ride, so mention you are with the Dusty Butt & they might do a deal. If you want more info on the listings, ping me a PM.

For those wanting to stay at the Gladstone, please PM me, not the Pub. $30 single, $45 double or twin. However if we support them with a full house, then it's a $35 flat rate for bed and breakfast. First in first served, limit 15. Includes covered bike parking that looks good & secure.

Friday night social incl $10 BBQ tea is @ the Gladstone, all welcome. As Ryan mentioned we have use of both the beer garden and the rear lounge. For catering, please confirm your attendance by PM to me.

There shouldn't be any hassle getting accomodation for those wanting to stay in Fairlie on the Sunday night.

[cooneyr]

Thanks XF650 for looking into the BBQ and accommodation options.

My wife and I went for a drive this weekend down to Alex and back to have a look around and to map out a bit more of the route. I also finally found the Moa Creek Pub and discovered it's really not the tidyest looking place. Also my wife and I were talking and came to the conclusion that because you have to carry bedding and food it probably isn't the most convenient place to stay when Alex is about 30 minutes further on with motels and food places. This might explain why I've only had responses form 7 of you wanting a bed at Moa Creek.

I'm guessing that the rest are organising places to stay in Alex yourself, so if the 7 that have sent me an email and cash would prefer to stay in Alex and would like their cash back let me know and I'll refund you.

Cheers R

[XF650]

Fair enough, although I still think Nordie & his banjo would fit right in at the Moa Pub.

[umopom]

Hi XF650
Please can you book VFRmuzz and umopom places at the Gladstone for the Friday night - we would like to do the barbie as well - thanks for organising this.
Cheers
John

[Woodman]

Sorry to piss you around struan.
Take my name off the list at the gladstone as my booking was already confirmed but I didn't see the email from them.

Cheers
Nig

[Rod]

I have been stalking this topic for a long time.....allready to go and dont want to miss out. Do we need to register or anything? 2 x christchurch riders.
newbie poster.

[Woodman]

That'd be a bit hard to estimate being a new route and not really knowing how you go on endurance runs.
You need to avoid falling off or breaking things in order to assist in completing the route within 24 hours.

2008 Northern route 1dayers took between 17 and 22 hours (3 different groups did the 1 day run that year).
2009 some reported 16 hours.
There's no way I could do that safely, even without stopping I wouldn't be able to avoid oncoming traffic/trees or tickets at the speeds required.
My Northern route completion time was about 19 hours, 45 minutes on the DR650 the one time I finished without incident.

fcuk..........

[XF650]

We have secured an accomodation block at the Alexandra Holiday Park for Sat night 16th, as an alternative to Moa Pub.
It's a self contained unit designed for groups, with it's own kitchen, ablutions, seperate bedrooms plus a bunk room.
Cost will be $30 incl linen, so you won't have to worry about carrying sleeping bags etc. There's also a secure bike shed.
Will post up more info & booking instructions tonight.

[NordieBoy]

We have secured an accomodation block at the Alexandra Holiday Park for Sat night 16th, as an alternative to Moa Pub.

Sounding good...

[.chris]

Sounding good...

Agree'd, can you please count me in for a bed.

[Transalper]

I have been stalking this topic for a long time.....allready to go and dont want to miss out. Do we need to register or anything? 2 x christchurch riders.
newbie poster.Welcome aboard.
Regarding reg, you've pretty much registered an expression of interest by posting here. Are you going for the one day ride or the two dayer?
I refer you to parts of post #1, might be nice if you add your name to the appropriate calendar listing as well.

Edit: apparently your name is already on the calendar, good man.



.....

Updates
....
Update 2- ONE Day "sensible" riders Calendar (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2092&day=2010-1-16&c=6) - If you plan on doing the one day run on sensible bikes (not SBC bikes) please put your name on this calender
Update 3- TWO Day riders Calendar (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2093&day=2010-1-16&c=6) - If you plan on doing the TWO day run please put your name on the calender
....
Update 8- ONE Day SBC riders Calendar (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2182&day=2010-1-16&c=6) - If you plan on doing the one day SBC run please put your name on this calender

Final Word
There is no "entry fee", there is no registration, this is not an organised ride in the legal sense. This ride is simply a bunch of people following the same route at their own pace along publicly accessible tracks.....

[cooneyr]

I have been stalking this topic for a long time.....allready to go and dont want to miss out. Do we need to register or anything? 2 x christchurch riders.
newbie poster.

You have already put your name on the 1 day calendar and if you have been following this thread then you'd done pretty much all you need to do. Just organise your own accomodation and we will see you at the BBQ at the Gladstone hotel (look for all the bikes) onthe 15th. Keep watching this space as there will be a few more developments of the next few weeks.


fcuk..........

Yep - you'd better pack your no doz and monkey butt cream!!!


We have secured an accomodation block at the Alexandra Holiday Park for Sat night 16th, as an alternative to Moa Pub....

No we about it! This is all your work but then again so was the Moa Creek Pub :bleh: It looks like we might have finally cracked the 2 dayers Sat accomidation. Thanks for all your help.

To all others we are just figuring out how the Alex Holiday Park bookings are to be handled i.e. all ring seperatly or one person organise and will let you know when we can. For those that have given me money for Moa Creek I'll return or forward as appropriate when Struan find's out the Alex Holiday Park wants to proceded.

Cheers R

[Underground]

I've got a cabin booked for Alex holliday park for our group of 5 .
Might be room for a couple more in there ,just waiting to hear back

[zeRax]

im confused, geographically and everything,


1 dayers, we will want accomodation for night prior to kick off or what? im confused with everyone talking about accomodation,

i want accomo for 1 night prior to kick off so i can be there and get away whenever we start?

what are other 1 dayers doing @_@, all this talk of gladstone and allsorts i have no idea where that is


im feeling quite simple atm :P

[thepom]

ok I,m confused,who do I pm for accommodation and bbq/ for the whole two day trip?....on my new 2nd hand yam xt600 if I can pick it up tomorrow from gisborne and make it back ok....

[Woodman]

Ok, after looking at the route and times etc for the one dayer, and then losing a lot of sleep last night I have decided to not do the onedayer and do the two dayer instead. Just don't think i would enjoy the on dayer that much, and not sure whether i am fit enough really.

Anyway I now need to change my acommodation (again):bash: sorry Struan, now owe you several hundred beers for shagging you around so much.
I will email the gladstone and cancel my entire booking and rebook through you for the b and b special, and will need accomodation in Alex as well.

Cheers.

[thepom]

me too please.... for the b and b special, and will need accomodation in Alex as well. ....cheers

[cooneyr]

Ok the accommodation thing has turned into a bit of a shambles. Lets try and restore some order to this. Sorry about the confusion over the past few days.

Accomodation
There are two accommodation options that we are compiling lists for. If your name is not on the lists then you need to organise your own accommodation. PM me (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=3969) to get your name on a list. If you have mates that are coming along please let me know how many and what their names are too. When you arrive at the location your name will be ticked off the list (we will provide the list to the proprietors) and you pay your money then (no money now). Obviously I need real names for the list I provide the proprietors.

Friday night - Gladstone Pub - B&B for $35pp. Breakfast at 6.30 AM
One or Two Day Riders may want to have accommodation here.

cynna
XF650
rogson
crises management
aslan
woodman
NordieBoy
mattsdaker
jon34
thepom
VFRmuzz
umopom
topo
ms topo
javahead

TOTAL = 15 out of 15 spaces - FULL All others will have to organise their own accommodation for Fairlie

Alternative Fairlie accommodation options here (http://www.fairlie.co.nz/html/accommodation_.html)

Saturday night - Alex Holiday Park - $30 including Linen, towels and a fully equipped kitchen
Only Two Day Riders will want to have accommodation here.

Nordie
C.h.r.i.s
Jatz
Mrs Jatz
The Boy
Aslan
Whatastoner
Helen of Troy + 2
Transalper
Cynna
Woodman
thepom
XF650
rogson
crises management
ms topo
jon34
mattsdaker
TimG + 1
Cold Comfort
NZKTM

TOTAL = 24 out of 29 spaces - 5 remaining

BBQ
This list is to give an idea to the Gladstone pub as to how many will be at the BBQ. Again name not on the list (with your mates) then you are not going to be catered for.

Friday night - Gladstone Pub - $10 BBQ
All are most welcome to this. This will be our only get together for the whole group.

cynna
XF650
rogson
crises management
aslan
woodman
NordieBoy
mattsdaker
jon34
thepom
VFRmuzz
umopom
Helen of Troy + 2
C.h.r.i.s
El Scooto + 1
Cooneyr + 1
Transalper
topo
ms topo
javahead
Jatz
Mrs Jatz
The Boy
Underground + 1
Mountie + 2
TimG + 1
Ruralman
Rod + 1
Cold Comfort
NZKTM
Whatastoner

TOTAL = 40

All lists updated 3.00pm 24-11-09

[cooneyr]

This is a proof of the ride sticker for this year, almost. The orange has been KTMified - cause I own one now and cause I'm ordering them :bleh:

Will be $5 a peice. 50 ordered. First in first served at the BBQ on the Friday night.

For those that care KTM colour is RGB 255,102,0

Cheers R

[XF650]

Thanks Ryan, your on-line confirmation lists is much tidier. My Message board was getting real confusing.

[zeRax]

damn its a long way down, i guess ill trailer bike down or scam work ute if i can, and sleep in car thursday night,

i guess, zomg @_@..................

[zeRax]

im definately going to make a roll chart holder, maybe motorized also with switches on bar :\?, with a backlight, ? is there any specific dimensions anyone can give me to help me out, i guess it depends what you print the roll chart out at?

i have,,,,,, 2 clues out of 100 :P

[topo]

i'm building a prototype powered roadbook, takes a bit more than you'd think:shutup: motor and pulley/belts should be here this week, will post some pics when done - not going to be a cheap option ($200ish in parts).

[cooneyr]

im definately going to make a roll chart holder, maybe motorized also with switches on bar :\?, with a backlight, ? is there any specific dimensions anyone can give me to help me out, i guess it depends what you print the roll chart out at?

i have,,,,,, 2 clues out of 100 :P

Roll chart is just under 65mm wide. Each cell is just under 25mm deep and you want to be able to see about 3 or 4 at a time plus have space for the rolls of paper. The depth needs to allow for all the paper to be in one roll and the diameter of this depends on what size roller you use. So you need the box to be about 65 wide by 150 long by about a min of about 60 deep internal dimensions.

Make a nice motorised back lit one and you'll probably have a sale here.

Cheers R

[Ruralman]

Roll chart is just under 65mm wide. Each cell is just under 25mm deep and you want to be able to see about 3 or 4 at a time plus have space for the rolls of paper. The depth needs to allow for all the paper to be in one roll and the diameter of this depends on what size roller you use. So you need the box to be about 65 wide by 150 long by about a min of about 60 deep internal dimensions.

Make a nice motorised back lit one and you'll probably have a sale here.

Cheers R

Why would you go with this rather than GPS map unit ????

[cooneyr]

Why would you go with this rather than GPS map unit ????

Cause it is more traditional, much cheaper (if you do the click clack version) and more challenging to navigate with. Dakar still uses road books (large scale roll charts) so if you want to pretend... A GPS will be much easier to navigate with if you know how to use it. I like a challenging, especially a navigational one and prefer if possible to use the simplest technology I can i.e. maps and roll charts. Then again I'm a bit weird and have been tainted/educated by the best orienteer in the country who just recently placed 12th in the world orienteering champs.

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

Still got the rollchart holder I made back in 2007 for the original DB1K.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=964330&postcount=78

It's still got the 2nd half roll chart in it :D

[cooneyr]

My roll chart holder is lying on the side of the route just before Lake Onslow. If I'm lucky I'll pick it up on the run :)

I'd suggest you don't use alloy to mount it to the bike if fatigues and fractures!

Cheers R

[zeRax]

i plan on using gps and roll chart, i actually thought a roll chart might be super simple way to go, only the info you need, and looks quite clear, but i dunno,

ive never used one ;x

[Waihou Thumper]

Still got the rollchart holder I made back in 2007 for the original DB1K.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=964330&postcount=78

It's still got the 2nd half roll chart in it :D

a few attempts at making these as this size is now an endangered species...:woohoo:
I have done a couple of ADV rides and I wish, I wish I could fins the smaller ones instead of carrying a lunchbox on my handle bars...:gob:

[Waihou Thumper]

i plan on using gps and roll chart, i actually thought a roll chart might be super simple way to go, only the info you need, and looks quite clear, but i dunno,

ive never used one ;x

Way to go.....Good to have the back up though

[NordieBoy]

There's been a GPS version since 2007 :D

[cooneyr]

Yep there will be a GPS route file but I'm still working on it. Should be done over the weekend.

Cheers R

[Waihou Thumper]

Still got the rollchart holder I made back in 2007 for the original DB1K.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=964330&postcount=78

It's still got the 2nd half roll chart in it :D

fact that every place in the North lsland has never seen luch boxes this small before...:yes: My route map is on A3...lol

[Ruralman]

Still got the rollchart holder I made back in 2007 for the original DB1K.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=964330&postcount=78

It's still got the 2nd half roll chart in it :D

Hmmm - it does look simple and cheap. Does that page (the link went to just a single post) have the details of what you used and where you got the stuff? Did you use some rubber or fabric washers where the bolt goes through the side of the container to give you the variable drag? What did the big black turn knobs come off?
Has anyone tried these mounted on top of a tank bag or do they work best mounted on the handlebars?

[NordieBoy]

Hmmm - it does look simple and cheap. Does that page (the link went to just a single post) have the details of what you used and where you got the stuff? Did you use some rubber or fabric washers where the bolt goes through the side of the container to give you the variable drag? What did the big black turn knobs come off?
Has anyone tried these mounted on top of a tank bag or do they work best mounted on the handlebars?

The variable drag is from the tension on the nyloc nuts/washers sandwiching the wall.
The bolts are decor bolty things from Mitre10.
The black knobs are from Dick Smiths.

The only change I've made are a couple of bits of bike spoke with drinking straw over them to hold the roll closer to the lid. Slightly too close to the lid as can be seen :innocent:

The whole box is only 8x11x5.5 cm.

I print the roll out at 55mm wide.

Mounted to the clutch and mirror bolts.

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[NordieBoy]

fact that every place in the North lsland has never seen luch boxes this small before...:yes: My route map is on A3...lol

My route map is 55mm wide...

You could also fill it up with "Transalper Travel Food" :love:

[Ruralman]

My route map is 55mm wide...

You could also fill it up with "Transalper Travel Food" :love:

Thanks for that - it is quite small (and that's prob a good thing) - would a little longer be any advantage so you can see more of the route map at a time?

It looks like the lid isn't the easiest thing to see through with those dimples all over it ??

[NordieBoy]

Thanks for that - it is quite small (and that's prob a good thing) - would a little longer be any advantage so you can see more of the route map at a time?

It looks like the lid isn't the easiest thing to see through with those dimples all over it ??

It shows 3 cells at a time and is easy to see, just not the easiest.

I've never used it in anger on a ride as I've always used the GPS or followed others.

[Ruralman]

It shows 3 cells at a time and is easy to see, just not the easiest.

I've never used it in anger on a ride as I've always used the GPS or followed others.

Well I'm pretty well decided I will do the 24 hr DB this year - but I am expecting to ride it pretty much alone apart from seeing other bikers along the way so I can't count on following others and will definitely need to follow either one of these or a GPS (which I haven't got - yet)

[Transalper]

Or print the maps/ trace the route on to a better map.
Seriously, there's a bit of fun to be had simply using the roll chart... though I like my GPS too.

[thepom]

I ll be using the xt600 I picked up from gisborne and will follow some one if I can keep up....good thing about xt600 is thay are easier to pick up than africa twins(cynner will be happy:sweatdrop)

[JATZ]

I ll be using the xt600 I picked up from gisborne and will follow some one if I can keep up....good thing about xt600 is thay are easier to pick up than africa twins(cynner will be happy:sweatdrop)

What year XT ?
Is it a standard 600 or a tenere ?:sherlock:

[thepom]

standard xt600e form 2002 but with 74 ks,had 73 but rode from gisborne on it through the southerly on wed that swept over the north island and when I got off the ferry yesterday it was a great day to ride home.

Bad news is there is a bad noise from the fifth gear which I never picked up on the test ride,so the inevetable pull down will happen if it gets me through the summer,

Seems a bit lacking in power too but once its over 4 thou it seems fine,probably cos I,m used to the torque of the africa twin which sadly will be up for sale soon.But apart form that I,m happy with the condition its in and it came with a givi rack and pannier.It was nice just cruising along at 110 yesterday in the sun and had a good ride apart from the cow shit coming off the lorry in front .....funny that as the smell stayed with me till I realised there was a spot of poo stuck to my helmer......

I had an old xt before and was very happy with it so it will be interesting to see how long before I think I need more power......

[helenoftroy]

im confused, geographically and everything,


1 dayers, we will want accomodation for night prior to kick off or what? im confused with everyone talking about accomodation,

i want accomo for 1 night prior to kick off so i can be there and get away whenever we start?

what are other 1 dayers doing @_@, all this talk of gladstone and allsorts i have no idea where that is


im feeling quite simple atm :P
Group of us staying in farm cottages 5 mins from Fairlie(15 of us atm)

Theres room for you & any others who havent got somewhere sorted

Let me know....will get my son Sam to put the link up when hes next home(computers are not my strong point!!:angry:)

[XF650]

Alexandra Holiday Park have confirmed that towels will be supplied with linen and that the Dusty Butt kitchen is fully equiped = less stuff to carry.

[.chris]

Alexandra Holiday Park have confirmed that towels will be supplied with linen and that the Dusty Butt kitchen is fully equiped = less stuff to carry.

Good job :)

Sounds like it will be nice and convenient.

[helenoftroy]

Here is the link to where we are staying in fairlie.....

www.lambrook.co.nz

[Padmei]

Hi all.

I'm keen on doing this but it all seems a bit hard.:no:

Can someone please do all the organising for me & I'll turn up with whatever I have to bring?

Struan I've sent you a PM but I'm not sure where we are starting from or going to or what. (Fcuk I find it hard to find my feet a lot of the time let alone somewhere out of Nelson)

I promise I'll be really obnoxious & sing in the shower offkey.... again...

Anyway either help me or abuse me but don't ignore me....

[thepom]

Hey Padmei....when you find out let me know too eh!.......:chase:

[Transalper]

You confused people need to go back and read post#193 (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129507257&postcount=193) about accommodation or arrange your own.
The route starts and ends in Fairlie.
Overnighters are stopping in Alexander.
Personally my choices have me in with one of the other groups thanks to H.O.T. for Friday/Sunday nights and on the list for the Alex stop over on Saturday night. I'm also down for the BBQ tea/meeting at the Gladstone in Fairlie on Friday evening.

[JATZ]

Hi all.

I'm keen on doing this but it all seems a bit hard.:no:

Can someone please do all the organising for me & I'll turn up with whatever I have to bring?

Struan I've sent you a PM but I'm not sure where we are starting from or going to or what. (Fcuk I find it hard to find my feet a lot of the time let alone somewhere out of Nelson)

I promise I'll be really obnoxious & sing in the shower offkey.... again...

Anyway either help me or abuse me but don't ignore me....

Oooooh Good grief Charlie Brown :D


You confused people need to go back and read post#193 (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129507257&postcount=193) about accommodation or arrange your own.
The route starts and ends in Fairlie.
Overnighters are stopping in Alexander.
Personally my choices have me in with one of the other groups thanks to H.O.T. for Friday/Sunday nights and on the list for the Alex stop over on Saturday night. I'm also down for the BBQ tea/meeting at the Gladstone in Fairlie on Friday evening.

And consider y'self's TOLD ! :spanking:

[thepom]

Aaaaaah.....now I see said the blind man......:laugh:

[cooneyr]

Hi all.

I'm keen on doing this but it all seems a bit hard.:no:...

Tis our way of controlling the calibre of the rider that attends. If you cant find the starting location then obviously you cant join us :bleh:

For a map of where we are going (I've heard that you and maps don't get on so well ;) ) see here (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/db1kssi.html).

TA has posted all there is to know about the accommodation.

Oh and go back and read the very first post!

Cheers R

[Padmei]

Damn being lazy is hard with all you bstards around.

[Woodman]

Damn being lazy is hard with all you bstards around.

Just follow me, You may not get there but you will have an adventure.

Actually thinking of heading down the coast, wanaka way taking a couple of days at this stage.

[Padmei]

Just follow me, You may not get there but you will have an adventure.

Actually thinking of heading down the coast, wanaka way taking a couple of days at this stage.

Yeah undecided again at this stage. I was remembering getting to the accom on day 1 of the DB at 9pm last year.May be keen on cruising down wiv ya & maybe doing half the DB at a more leisurely pace. Perhaps I can start a 3 day version:scooter:

[Transalper]

Yes, well from the story I heard you lot did spend an extraordinary amount of time (compared to previous years) sitting about drinking coffee talking about riding instead of actually doing it.
If you really want to soak it all up and have lots of long coffee stops then closer to four days might be a better bet.
The three day pre run (not counting the ride to the start the evening before) was three long days with many very short stops, two minutes here, one minute there making notes on the route, but no long coffee stop extras other than lunch. We didn't even have time to complete all of the bits we intended to check then.

I think i'll be intending to arrive in Alex by 7pm for the overnight stop unless I've stopped for tea before then, but we'll see how it plays out on the day.

[cooneyr]

Yes, well from the story I heard you lot did spend an extraordinary amount of time (compared to previous years) sitting about drinking coffee talking about riding instead of actually doing it......

Nothing like telling it like it is :msn-wink:

TA is right though. A normal days ADV riding (well what I call normal anyway) with a hour lunch break, 5min regroups every hour or so and not mucking around too much often works out at about 50kph overall. So given you have 500km to travel each day it will take a good 10 hours and if you stop for photos or ride in a big group (takes a long time to regroup) add more time. I'd be allowing 12 hours for the day i.e. 8am to 8pm. Remember the intent of the DB1k is to challange you, to ride lots of gravel, to see some cool scenery and to talk ADV. It isn't a coffee run (I can say that cause I dont drink coffee)!

In saying all this from what I've heard the two day riders do have a pretty good time though. There are a reasonable number that are back for their 2nd and 3rd run.

Cheers R

[cold comfort]

This looks like a great event. Did the Back of Beyond last w/e and am now hooked on ADV riding.(Gale force winds, driving rain, deep rivers, miles of fast gravel, great scenery- great stuff!) Would be quite keen on tagging along but with the starting pt being Fairlie, 2 days off doesn't really cut it. Will have to see if i can influence the work roster..

[Woodman]

Yeah undecided again at this stage. I was remembering getting to the accom on day 1 of the DB at 9pm last year.May be keen on cruising down wiv ya & maybe doing half the DB at a more leisurely pace. Perhaps I can start a 3 day version:scooter:

No firm plans here either, but was thinking today about maybe heading over that road that goes to granity and then heading up the Coast road to Grey or possibly Franz as a first day. (possibly)

The 2 day with 21 odd riders certainly adds another dimension to a 500k ride, but I am looking forward to it.

[thepom]

Hey ,the more the merrier I say,I did the 3 c,s with you guy,s and was megga impressed with the camaraderie and can,t wait for the DB.......:eek:

[JATZ]

Soo thats only 1 in 21/22 gates you have to open.......right......cool !

[thepom]

Is it too late to join in as one of the guys I work with is interested if he can get the time off?

[cooneyr]

Is it too late to join in as one of the guys I work with is interested if he can get the time off?

Nope, not too late. Still a few bed spaces in Alex but will have to organise accomodation himself for elsewhere.

Cheers R

[cooneyr]

Went and finished doing the route checking over the weekend and I think it is only fair to let people know that there are some sections of the track that may frighten those who don’t like heights. I had my old man and my wife pretty much ready to disown me on Sunday.

The worst bit of the track is going north from Benmore Dam over Black Forest Track. On this track you get to 500m above Lake Benmore on a hillside that a car would not stop on before it got to the lake if you fell off the road. The other bit is the Omarama side of Omarama Saddle which is at 1370m. Black Forest feels worse but is a slope of 1m ride in 9m travelled where as coming off Omarama saddle is a 1m drop in 7m horizontal but it feels better.

For those that did the run last year these bits are not that different from Altimarlock but if you really didn't like it then I'd suggest you go around. Both sections can be got around but you miss a lot of the route if you don't go over Omarama Saddle. Skipping Black Forest doesn't miss that much of the route. I'll explain how to get around (basically follow SH8) more at the BBQ.

Cheers R

[Rod]

So it is like a 1000km enduro special test then......Excellent bring it on!!!!

[NordieBoy]

So it is like a 1000km enduro special test then......Excellent bring it on!!!!

Yep.

Without the speed.
Or enduro bikes.

[cooneyr]

So it is like a 1000km enduro special test then......Excellent bring it on!!!!

If you want it to be.

The route is all pretty easy to ride though in that the surface is mostly seal or good gravel with some sections that are dirt track, some bits that are dry, about a 20 or so small stream crossings with about 3 slightly deeper/more technical stream crossings. With a bit of care, appropriate speed (or lack thereof) and assistance from others if necessary, nobody should have any great difficulty with the route.

Most technical bit would be one stream crossing that has a boulder strewn departure (stream crossing itself is OK) that may require walking of some peoples bikes for about 5 m.

Cheers R

[Ruralman]

If you want it to be.

Most technical bit would be one stream crossing that has a boulder strewn departure (stream crossing itself is OK) that may require walking of some peoples bikes for about 5 m.

Cheers R

And where would that happen to be then huh ????

[cooneyr]

And where would that happen to be then huh ????

On the southern side of Omarama Saddle as you head up the valley from St Bathurns. There is a ford prior to the rocky one that has a reputation as a KTM 950 Adv drowner but that was in the middle of winter on the way to the Brass 3 years ago and it has changed shape since then (water more spread out). We will be in the middle of summer when these fords should be at their lowest.

Cheers R

[Ruralman]

On the southern side of Omarama Saddle as you head up the valley from St Bathurns. There is a ford prior to the rocky one that has a reputation as a KTM 950 Adv drowner but that was in the middle of winter on the way to the Brass 3 years ago and it has changed shape since then (water more spread out). We will be in the middle of summer when these fords should be at their lowest.

Cheers R

Hmmm - best done in daylight then !!! Just as well I'm on a 990 not a 950:2thumbsup

[Crisis management]

Sounds good Ryan, I'm sure any drop offs look worse than they are and we are all used to riding steep terrain, comes with the territory.


Remember RM, momentum is your friend....................















or is that ruts, I always confuse those two?? :crazy:

[NordieBoy]

Sounds good Ryan, I'm sure any drop offs look worse than they are and we are all used to riding steep terrain, comes with the territory.


Remember RM, momentum is your friend....................

or is that ruts, I always confuse those two?? :crazy:
Momentum is your ruts?

[Ruralman]

Sounds good Ryan, I'm sure any drop offs look worse than they are and we are all used to riding steep terrain, comes with the territory.


Remember RM, momentum is your friend....................
or is that ruts, I always confuse those two?? :crazy:

When it comes to river crossings (rather than small streams) my rule has always been - in slowly and then power on through
For small streams its always been - sit it on the back wheel and keep your feet dry :clap: - but then thats usually been on the Gas Gas