Antifog pinlock inserts

[Sparky Bills]

Just wondering how many people have one of these fitted to their helmets?

If you dont, you dont know what your missing!
They are fantastic in the cold winter mornings and nights.
For the sake of a bit of cash, its worth it as they simply DO NOT FOG.

I am offering a deal at Motomart.
Bring your helmet in and ill fit the pinlocks and the insert to your helmet while you wait, FREE OF CHARGE!
Will only take about 5 minutes.
Holes will need to be drilled in your visor for the pinlocks to go on, but once in place you will barely notice them.

They are Shoei Pinock Inserts, but can be fitted to nearly any brand visor.
Cost of the insert is $49.99.

So if your interested, pop in at Motomart, 7 Rutherford St, Lower Hutt
PH: 04 5895106
Email: parts@motomart.co.nz

Martin


some conditions apply, all fitting of pinlocks and inserts is at buyers risk.

[ajturbo]

fuck YES.. they WORK

i beat luke up and stole his Aria helmet...

it has one in it...clear all the time!!!!

hey marty... how much for a thinner liner for the helmet?

[johan]

What the difference between these and the fogcity inserts?

I need new defoggers for my visors so I'll come down and see you Martin!

[NZsarge]

Pinlock inserts rock! I'd like to get my hand on one of those photochromic jobbies.

[warewolf]

What the difference between these and the fogcity inserts?The pins are semi-permanently mounted but the inserts aren't. So they can be removed in dusty conditions - they aren't as tough and scratch-resistant as a visor. They can also be cleaned if water gets between them and the visor, but that's really only necessary because they flexedmoved and broke the seal.

All them work well when new. Haven't found one yet that works long-term. FogCity ones scratch easily - earlier ones didn't. They also come unstuck eventually and get water inside. ProGrip... came unstuck and got water inside (photochromic change almost negligible). Pinlock... won't stay in place anymore, sags and lifts off the visor, has to be reset all the time (this is on a flip-front helmet that has to be slammed closed to latch).

For all that, I persevere with them, for the times when they work. Just wish they worked for longer. Haven't decided which one I'll go for next... don't ask. :laugh:

[p.dath]

I use a pinlock visor on my Shoei helmet and it works great. Will still fog occassionally, but by far the best option on the market.

[Ecclesnz]

Would this work for an FFM helmet?

[Owl]

Yeah I have a pinlock and so does the missus. They work bloody well!

[oldrider]

For the sake of a bit of cash, its worth it as they simply DO NOT FOG.

Sorry to rain on your parade but yes they do! :confused: Given the right conditions. :yes: (perhaps should read, "wrong" conditions)

Just no where near as bad as any others that I have tried! :shifty:

[h20boy]

Just wondering how many people have one of these fitted to their helmets?

If you dont, you dont know what your missing!
They are fantastic in the cold winter mornings and nights.
For the sake of a bit of cash, its worth it as they simply DO NOT FOG.

I am offering a deal at Motomart.
Bring your helmet in and ill fit the pinlocks and the insert to your helmet while you wait, FREE OF CHARGE!
Will only take about 5 minutes.
Holes will need to be drilled in your visor for the pinlocks to go on, but once in place you will barely notice them.

They are Shoei Pinock Inserts, but can be fitted to nearly any brand visor.
Cost of the insert is $49.99.

So if your interested, pop in at Motomart, 7 Rutherford St, Lower Hutt
PH: 04 5895106
Email: parts@motomart.co.nz

Martin


some conditions apply, all fitting of pinlocks and inserts is at buyers risk.


Can someone post a pic so I know what the heck these things are? Cheers!

[Cloggy]

Have a look here to see what these look like:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/anti-fog-visor/

[crazyhorse]

Maybe it depends on the kind of bike you ride, but I bought some, and when I ride my GSXR, the top of the fog thing is right in my line of vision. Yes they work, but I'm not happy to use them when they compromise what I see clearly.

Has anyone else had this problem when using this on their shoei helmets?

[Sparky Bills]

Sorry to rain on your parade but yes they do! :confused: Given the right conditions. :yes: (perhaps should read, "wrong" conditions)

Just no where near as bad as any others that I have tried! :shifty:



What brand were you using?
And was it fitted correctly with an even seal around the whole insert?

I have used them for over 7 years and not once has one ever fogged.
But maybe in the hard south island winter the conditions might be a bit more extreme.

Yes I should be able to make it work on an ffm visor.
The only visor these particular ones wont work on are Arai visors. But they have their own pinlock systems.

[Sparky Bills]

Maybe it depends on the kind of bike you ride, but I bought some, and when I ride my GSXR, the top of the fog thing is right in my line of vision. Yes they work, but I'm not happy to use them when they compromise what I see clearly.

Has anyone else had this problem when using this on their shoei helmets?


Ive had this issue, but just changed my style to make do.
Personal preference though in the end.

[Sparky Bills]

Can someone post a pic so I know what the heck these things are? Cheers!


I will once im back at work.

[Sparky Bills]

fuck YES.. they WORK

i beat luke up and stole his Aria helmet...

it has one in it...clear all the time!!!!

hey marty... how much for a thinner liner for the helmet?


Give me a buzz at work dude.

[oldrider]

What brand were you using?
And was it fitted correctly with an even seal around the whole insert?

I have used them for over 7 years and not once has one ever fogged.
But maybe in the hard south island winter the conditions might be a bit more extreme.

Yes I should be able to make it work on an ffm visor.
The only visor these particular ones wont work on are Arai visors. But they have their own pinlock systems.

Nolan helmet, it doesn't have the little seal you speak of, although I do know a guy who seals his (Nolan) with "bluetack", reckons it works OK too!

I like the idea of the seal, it would stop rain or dust getting in between the surfaces when you have got the visor open!

I did have the helmet flip front and visor freeze up once, couldn't open it for ages to get the damn thing off!

It was really cold that day, heavy rain then ice and snow locked up the flip front, the visor fogged up big time.

We had to stop and thaw it out with warm hands off the hot grips!

[slofox]

I'm a little reluctant to use my pinlock insert (Arai Chaser helmet) since it is not perfectly clear (kinda yellowish) and therefore affects vision a little adversely. Any comments? Are they supposed to be like this or is mine a dud?

[Sparky Bills]

I'm a little reluctant to use my pinlock insert (Arai Chaser helmet) since it is not perfectly clear (kinda yellowish) and therefore affects vision a little adversely. Any comments? Are they supposed to be like this or is mine s dud?


Kinda yellowish?
There are inserts that come out in a yellow tint, but they are an obvious yellow. Maybe you do have a dud. Can you post a pic?

The inserts I use are for my Arais but apart from shape they are the same design as the shoei ones and work mint.

I havnt had any issues with mine. Once you get used to the seal around the outside of it they are fine.

[Sparky Bills]

Nolan helmet, it doesn't have the little seal you speak of, although I do know a guy who seals his (Nolan) with "bluetack", reckons it works OK too!

I like the idea of the seal, it would stop rain or dust getting in between the surfaces when you have got the visor open!

I did have the helmet flip front and visor freeze up once, couldn't open it for ages to get the damn thing off!

It was really cold that day, heavy rain then ice and snow locked up the flip front, the visor fogged up big time.

We had to stop and thaw it out with warm hands off the hot grips!


Ah, well that makes sense. The Nolan inserts dont have a silocone seal around the outside so all sorts can get in between.
Im not too sure if these inserts would fit a nolan as their visor inserts are longer in shape than the shoei ones.

Sounds like you have ridden in some pretty extreme conditions...:shutup:

[warewolf]

Maybe it depends on the kind of bike you ride, but I bought some, and when I ride my GSXR, the top of the fog thing is right in my line of vision. Yes they work, but I'm not happy to use them when they compromise what I see clearly.

Has anyone else had this problem when using this on their shoei helmets?Yep, on my Shoei Syncrotech II. In the correct position, it is very close to my line of vision on the 640 - which has a pretty upright stance. Was in the way on my Triumph Trophy. And now that it doesn't really stay in place, it sags down across my vision.

The progrip one in my HJC helmet has a black seal, that one is also very close to getting in the way.

Both are a problem when they start to fog (usually from the bottom up) as you can't tilt your head to see over the fog - the top of the anti-fog insert obscures the clear part of the view.

[Sparky Bills]

Here ya go...
Some pics. They show where the pinlocks would need to be fitted on this particular visor.
The sample visor is off a Shark RSI helmet (which have antifog visors so an insert is not needed).
Hope these make it a bit clearer.:done:

[NZsarge]

Kinda yellowish?
There are inserts that come out in a yellow tint, but they are an obvious yellow.

Had any experience with the yellow insert or more to the point really the yellow Arai visors? Wondering what they were like in grey overcast meh kinda days?

[Owl]

Had any experience with the yellow insert or more to the point really the yellow Arai visors? Wondering what they were like in grey overcast meh kinda days?

No but they'll probably be pretty good. I used to wear yellow safety glasses when barefoot boat driving on crappy days. Really helped, as you had to keep an eye out for little sticks and things in the river:dodge:

[davebullet]

Would drilling the visor for the pinlocks invalidate the warranty / safety of the visor itself for impact protection?

Does anyone have experience comparing the Pinlock with Arai or Fogcity (I think drill-less) solutions?

[Mystic13]

+1 on the pinlocks. Bought them for my helmets and drilled the visor and fitted them. Besides no fog they also reduce the amount of cold on the face. It's like having double glazing. Great stuff.

I would never own a helmet without a pinlock.

[Sparky Bills]

Would drilling the visor for the pinlocks invalidate the warranty / safety of the visor itself for impact protection?

Does anyone have experience comparing the Pinlock with Arai or Fogcity (I think drill-less) solutions?


It probably would affect the warranty on a visor, but to be honest I have never once had a warranty issue with a visor, and ive been hit by many different flying objects over the years. Im pretty sure that you will be fine if you drilled your visor. PLUS how do you think Shoei, Arai, Nolan etc get their pins in their pre made pinlock visors?
Is your helmet still covered under warranty?

I have used both the pinlock and stick on inserts. The stick on ones work fine, but I found they scratch really easy (easier than the pinlock type).
Personal preference in the end though.

If you dont want us to drill and fit pinlocks, there are visors to suit Arai's and Shoei's that already have pins fitted to them.

[Sparky Bills]

Had any experience with the yellow insert or more to the point really the yellow Arai visors? Wondering what they were like in grey overcast meh kinda days?


Yes I have used a yellow visor on my Arai. Works a treat in low light conditions. Not too good when on a hang over though as they are VERY yellow.
Ive used an Orange visor with a Shoei I had too, which works well too.

[alanzs]

The pinlocks works better than anything I have ever used. It is a must use for these cold winter months.

[NZsarge]

No but they'll probably be pretty good. I used to wear yellow safety glasses when barefoot boat driving on crappy days. Really helped, as you had to keep an eye out for little sticks and things in the river:dodge:


Yes I have used a yellow visor on my Arai. Works a treat in low light conditions. Not too good when on a hang over though as they are VERY yellow.
Ive used an Orange visor with a Shoei I had too, which works well too.

Cheers. :niceone:

[Sparky Bills]

This is awsome guys/girls. Have done a few already.
Keep em coming! I now have to order more stock.

Im glad people are taking advantage of this offer.

It makes me want to think of other ways we can help you all out... :rockon:

[slofox]

I'm a little reluctant to use my pinlock insert (Arai Chaser helmet) since it is not perfectly clear (kinda yellowish) and therefore affects vision a little adversely. Any comments? Are they supposed to be like this or is mine a dud?

Ahhh haha haha haha...nothing wrong with the insert, just something wrong with the brain of the beholder. Went back and had a closer look at it and discovered that the manufacturers had very kindly placed a protective film on one side of the insert - like you get on the screen of a new cell phone...once removed, the insert is clear as...wadda dork, not seeing that first time...

[Sparky Bills]

Ahhh haha haha haha...nothing wrong with the insert, just something wrong with the brain of the beholder. Went back and had a closer look at it and discovered that the manufacturers had very kindly placed a protective film on one side of the insert - like you get on the screen of a new cell phone...once removed, the insert is clear as...wadda dork, not seeing that first time...


HEHE, I did think about that, but didnt want to mention such an idea on here.
Trust me mate, you are not the first to do such a thing. I have people all the time complaining about goggle lenes etc for the very same reason.

[slofox]

HEHE, I did think about that, but didnt want to mention such an idea on here.
Trust me mate, you are not the first to do such a thing. I have people all the time complaining about goggle lenes etc for the very same reason.

Yerrr well when I first got the helmet the weather was pretty warm and I had no need to use the insert anyway...just had a brief look, thought "murky vision - fukkit" and left it in the box...but all is revealed now. Worked a treat this morning in the fog. Pity we can't do similar for the outside of the visor...

[Sparky Bills]

Yerrr well when I first got the helmet the weather was pretty warm and I had no need to use the insert anyway...just had a brief look, thought "murky vision - fukkit" and left it in the box...but all is revealed now. Worked a treat this morning in the fog. Pity we can't do similar for the outside of the visor...

I use Prestone Rain Repellent on the outside of my visors. I slite tilt of the head and the water beads straight off. Its awsome.

[GMcC]

I would certainly recomend the Pin Lock system
Toured the Sth Island ( Shoei XR1000 ) and even in ICEY Freakin whiteout frosty morning the view sure beats the thought of " where the fucks the road ? "
As Crazyhorse stated earlier the positioning of the overlay makes you adjust your head slightly so as your not seeing thru the top part - above the insert thing ( perhaps its the 1080 in the water on the east coast ! ) :sweatdrop
I have 2 visors and usually swap them in the Summer anyhow

[Sparky Bills]

Still on offer.. :scooter:

[slofox]

I use Prestone Rain Repellent on the outside of my visors. I slite tilt of the head and the water beads straight off. Its awsome.

So whereja get the Prestone then? An' Emma Chizzit?

[Sparky Bills]

So whereja get the Prestone then? An' Emma Chizzit?



I got it from Repco. Im not too sure if they still sell it as I have had the same bottle for over 6 years now...
Its pretty consentrated stuff, and with the size of a helmet visor it only needs a tiny bit at a time.
Just a bit on a soft rag to wipe it onto the OUTSIDE of the visor. When it gets wet just a small tilt of the head each way and the water beads off.

[Gubb]

Well, I took Sparky up on his offer last week, and i've been very impressed.

The Pinlock is amazing, and they just may have sold me a new set of tyres too. Just need to make up my mind as to which ones.

[Sparky Bills]

Well, I took Sparky up on his offer last week, and i've been very impressed.

The Pinlock is amazing, and they just may have sold me a new set of tyres too. Just need to make up my mind as to which ones.



Glad to hear your happy with it. :rockon:

[jahmin]

Just saw this thread - I've been meaning to get pinlock inserts for ages - will the offer still be available on Saturday (if you work Saturday)?

[babysteps]

Anyone doing this in Christchurch???

[Sparky Bills]

Hi,
Im not sure if I will be working this Saturday or not just yet. Ive been asked to play hockey Saturday afternoon.
The offer will carry on as long as there is a demand for them.

[Sparky Bills]

Anyone doing this in Christchurch???



Not that I know of. Although it is fairly easy to do, so maybe ask at your local bike shop. They just need to take their time with it.

[steve_t]

Hey Sparky, just curious, how much is one of those Shark RSI Visors?

[Squid69]

Just wondering how many people have one of these fitted to their helmets?

If you dont, you dont know what your missing!
They are fantastic in the cold winter mornings and nights.
For the sake of a bit of cash, its worth it as they simply DO NOT FOG.

I am offering a deal at Motomart.
Bring your helmet in and ill fit the pinlocks and the insert to your helmet while you wait, FREE OF CHARGE!
Will only take about 5 minutes.
Holes will need to be drilled in your visor for the pinlocks to go on, but once in place you will barely notice them.

They are Shoei Pinock Inserts, but can be fitted to nearly any brand visor.
Cost of the insert is $49.99.

So if your interested, pop in at Motomart, 7 Rutherford St, Lower Hutt
PH: 04 5895106
Email: parts@motomart.co.nz

Martin


some conditions apply, all fitting of pinlocks and inserts is at buyers risk.

any chance of a tinted antifog insert?

[Squid69]

Hey Sparky, just curious, how much is one of those Shark RSI Visors?

Cycletreads was doing them for $129.

I cant remember if that was the 3mm thick "race" visor or the 2.5mm standard one but i thought it was pretty steep

[Sparky Bills]

Shark RSI Visors..
Clear: $99
Dark Smoke: $149
Iridium Blue: $135
Iridium Chrome: $135

All available.
Cheers

[Sparky Bills]

any chance of a tinted antifog insert?


There is a light reactive Insert available. Made by FogCity.
In low light conditions it is light green but once the sun hits it, it changes to a tinted blue.
While keeping your visor fog free.
There used to be a full tint insert available, but I will have to double check if they are still available.
Will let you know.

[Sparky Bills]

any chance of a tinted antifog insert?


Fog City do tinted inserts.
Was there any colour tint you were looking for in particular?

[mad.mike]

I just fitted a pin lock to my raid II and was amazed at the difference it made compared with even the stick on anti fog film. Also happy that it won't peel off like the sticky crappy thing that i had on there before :mad:. Cost slightly more, was $150 inc the visor pre drilled but so much less hassle in my eyes

[jono035]

I just fitted a pin lock to my raid II and was amazed at the difference it made compared with even the stick on anti fog film. Also happy that it won't peel off like the sticky crappy thing that i had on there before :mad:. Cost slightly more, was $150 inc the visor pre drilled but so much less hassle in my eyes

Put one of those stick on things on my visor the other day. Helped but not by much. Was riding along dominion rd when the 5mm wide edging (that in hindsight I think you're supposed to remove after sticking it on) came off and started flapping around inside the visor.

Before I could do anything about it, I inhaled through my nose, sucked about 100mm of the edging straight up my nose and down the back of my throat. Managed to keep a clear head, indicated, pulled over, ripped up my visor, pulled the damn thing out and just about lost my lunch all over the sidewalk.

Beware...

[Sparky Bills]

Put one of those stick on things on my visor the other day. Helped but not by much. Was riding along dominion rd when the 5mm wide edging (that in hindsight I think you're supposed to remove after sticking it on) came off and started flapping around inside the visor.

Before I could do anything about it, I inhaled through my nose, sucked about 100mm of the edging straight up my nose and down the back of my throat. Managed to keep a clear head, indicated, pulled over, ripped up my visor, pulled the damn thing out and just about lost my lunch all over the sidewalk.

Beware...


Dude! That sounds bloody horrible!
But good on you for keeping your head and getting off the road safely.

[jono035]

Dude! That sounds bloody horrible!
But good on you for keeping your head and getting off the road safely.

Wasn't the most pleasant, no :D The 2 guys who I'd just had lunch with picked me up 10 minutes later to head off for drinks and just about wet themselves when I told them about it though <_<

[Sparky Bills]

Wasn't the most pleasant, no :D The 2 guys who I'd just had lunch with picked me up 10 minutes later to head off for drinks and just about wet themselves when I told them about it though <_<



I didnt want to say it at first, but I was laughing while I read it.
Imagine what a passer by would have been thinking lol

[jono035]

I didnt want to say it at first, but I was laughing while I read it.
Imagine what a passer by would have been thinking lol

If anyone had of spotted me pulling a long streamer of plastic out of my nose while parked on the side of the road then it probably would have caused an accident :)

[Aaron_newrider]

Shark RSI Visors..
Clear: $99
Dark Smoke: $149
Iridium Blue: $135
Iridium Chrome: $135

All available.
Cheers

Do you guys do Shark S650 Visors?

[Sparky Bills]

Do you guys do Shark S650 Visors?



Yes we can do.
Send me a pm with what colour etc you are looking for.
Cheers
Martin

[mister.koz]

Pinlocks are great, i got the shoei visor and antifog insert... wish i had known that someone was drilling holes, could have saved myself a hundy bucks!

I have managed to get the visor to fog on a really cold foggy morning but only slightly (hamilton is very humid), other times when i've been riding there's been so much condensation that i have seen water drops form on the visor around but not on the antifog insert - proof of a good product!

Now i just gotta find how to stop my glasses fogging :wacko:

[slofox]

Now i just gotta find how to stop my glasses fogging :wacko:

Breathe out through your mouth - slowly - and in a downward direction. Works for me...

I tested my Rainx treated visor this morning (fog plus rain - oh the joys of Waikato winters). Certainly helped - where I would normally be wiping the visor (outside you unnerstand) every couple of seconds, this morning I wiped it only three times in 85km...course the rain helps, but even before the rain started, when it was just fog, it was better.
Now to test it in fog alone - bring on the next pea-souper please.
Would have to say the pinlock is the bees knees as well...:wari:

[jono035]

Breathe out through your mouth - slowly - and in a downward direction. Works for me...

I tested my Rainx treated visor this morning (fog plus rain - oh the joys of Waikato winters). Certainly helped - where I would normally be wiping the visor (outside you unnerstand) every couple of seconds, this morning I wiped it only three times in 85km...course the rain helps, but even before the rain started, when it was just fog, it was better.
Now to test it in fog alone - bring on the next pea-souper please.
Would have to say the pinlock is the bees knees as well...:wari:

Yeah, I've had success with that before and tried it again. Seemed to work ok but it still gets a bit of a hint of fogging. Also if I forget and breathe out through my nose it goes really foggy pretty much instantly. Hoping the pinlocks will mean I don't have to worry about how I breathe!

[mister.koz]

Yeah, I've had success with that before and tried it again. Seemed to work ok but it still gets a bit of a hint of fogging. Also if I forget and breathe out through my nose it goes really foggy pretty much instantly. Hoping the pinlocks will mean I don't have to worry about how I breathe!

The pinlocks are great, i have seriously had enough condensation to cause water drops to form inside the visor and the pinlock insert was totally clear... very cool!

[Sparky Bills]

Yeah, I've had success with that before and tried it again. Seemed to work ok but it still gets a bit of a hint of fogging. Also if I forget and breathe out through my nose it goes really foggy pretty much instantly. Hoping the pinlocks will mean I don't have to worry about how I breathe!



I assure you mate the pinlock insert will solve all your problems :yes:

[slofox]

I assure you mate the pinlock insert will solve all your problems :yes:

The pinlock does not solve the problem of spectacles fogging unfortunately, as mister.koz has pointed out.

What I have noticed though, is that I have less problem with specs fogging wearing the Arai helmet (Chaser) than I did wearing the Shoei (Raid II). I do think the Arai has superior ventilation which helps me with spec fogging. Leaving the visor just the slightest tad open also helps at the beginning of a ride. Once all is up to temperature I find I can clip the visor closed without problems.
One other advantage of the Arai over the Shoei is that the visor may be opened to any position because it doesn't have a "click" system when you open it - it may be freely swivelled to any position. Initially I thought this a disadvantage but have come to quite like the fine adjustability the feature gives.
The Shoei wins hands down on changing the visor though....Arai should be shot for inventing the dumb system they use...

[jono035]

Riding to work this morning I couldn't close my visor at all, even while directing my breath down and breathing out slowly. It helped a lot, but still started to fog slightly, which got very distracting...

RJays fog film down, pinlock time.

[Sparky Bills]

Riding to work this morning I couldn't close my visor at all, even while directing my breath down and breathing out slowly. It helped a lot, but still started to fog slightly, which got very distracting...

RJays fog film down, pinlock time.



Have you talked to your local shop mate? They should be able to get one in for you if they dont have them already. Otherwise let me know by pm and I can send one up to you overnight. OR... If you can do without your visor you could send that to me and ill fit it for you and send it back up to you.

Cheers
Martin

[cs363]

The pinlock does not solve the problem of spectacles fogging unfortunately, as mister.koz has pointed out.

What I have noticed though, is that I have less problem with specs fogging wearing the Arai helmet (Chaser) than I did wearing the Shoei (Raid II). I do think the Arai has superior ventilation which helps me with spec fogging. Leaving the visor just the slightest tad open also helps at the beginning of a ride. Once all is up to temperature I find I can clip the visor closed without problems.
One other advantage of the Arai over the Shoei is that the visor may be opened to any position because it doesn't have a "click" system when you open it - it may be freely swivelled to any position. Initially I thought this a disadvantage but have come to quite like the fine adjustability the feature gives.
The Shoei wins hands down on changing the visor though....Arai should be shot for inventing the dumb system they use...

The Chaser does have excellent ventilation, a friend of mine who wears glasses bought one for exactly that reason over the RX-7.

Regarding the visor change, I had exactly the same thoughts when I first got an RX-7 but I found that I was my own worst enemy as I was trying to hard and forcing it which was making it more difficult, if that makes sense. While it's not the best system I've ever used it's not as bad as it appears and gets much, much easier with practice, one you've got the knack of it, it really is quite easy.

This might help:

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[Trudes]

The Arai visors are easy to change. I believe the system they had on their old helmets were difficult, but the new ones are easy, easier than the HJC I find. There is a knack to it, but like cs363 says, don't force it and practice makes perfect (Hubby has a Shoei and we often have visor changing races... he normally wins by a second... but my visor doesn't fog up :bleh:)

[slofox]

The Chaser does have excellent ventilation, a friend of mine who wears glasses bought one for exactly that reason over the RX-7.

Regarding the visor change, I had exactly the same thoughts when I first got an RX-7 but I found that I was my own worst enemy as I was trying to hard and forcing it which was making it more difficult, if that makes sense. While it's not the best system I've ever used it's not as bad as it appears and gets much, much easier with practice, one you've got the knack of it, it really is quite easy.

This might help:



Thanks cs. I have watched that vid and it does make it look easier than I have found it to be. To be honest, I think I may have fucked the system slightly in my early attempts at removal...now that I know how to take off those side covers, I will pull it to bits and check out how well the innards are...brute force and ignorance are not always the universal solutions they are cracked up to be...:nono:

[NZsarge]

.brute force and ignorance are not always the universal solutions they are cracked up to be...:nono:

No they are'nt, well not in this case anyway. If there is a failing in the Arai system is if you try to force thing when changing your visor breakages could well happen, they are'nt super robust. There is also a trick to taking the side pods off without damaging them, best take it to your local qualified Arai service tech and yes they do exist, a mate of mine is one.
BTW, if you do break something on the side pods be prepared for a long wait to get new ones, particularly if the side pods are of a coloured/patterned helmet, last I heard/experienced parts back up for Arai helmets (in NZ at least) was shocking! Had a mate that was waiting months for a side pod for his Viper and in the end he did'nt get it coz he binned.. Bought another Arai Viper though..

[KrazyGixxerBoy]

Have a look here to see what these look like:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/anti-fog-visor/

Cheers for the link. I had never heard about these either....may look into it if the Foggoff mask I just bought doesnt do the trick for me.

[slofox]

No they are'nt, well not in this case anyway. If there is a failing in the Arai system is if you try to force thing when changing your visor breakages could well happen, they are'nt super robust. There is also a trick to taking the side pods off without damaging them, best take it to your local qualified Arai service tech and yes they do exist, a mate of mine is one.
BTW, if you do break something on the side pods be prepared for a long wait to get new ones, particularly if the side pods are of a coloured/patterned helmet, last I heard/experienced parts back up for Arai helmets (in NZ at least) was shocking! Had a mate that was waiting months for a side pod for his Viper and in the end he did'nt get it coz he binned.. Bought another Arai Viper though..

Got the side covers off easily yesterday - you need to look for the little red doovers inside the covers and press them - carefully. I used the handle of a teaspoon to do it with. The covers came off easily enough.
No damage inside when I checked. But having seen inside the workings, I have a better appreciation of how the visor detaches and reattaches.

[NZsarge]

Got the side covers off easily yesterday - you need to look for the little red doovers inside the covers and press them - carefully. I used the handle of a teaspoon to do it with. The covers came off easily enough.
No damage inside when I checked. But having seen inside the workings, I have a better appreciation of how the visor detaches and reattaches.

Nice :niceone:

[Sparky Bills]

(Hubby has a Shoei and we often have visor changing races... he normally wins by a second... but my visor doesn't fog up :bleh:)



So he wins the battle, but YOU win the war :banana:

[jono035]

Have you talked to your local shop mate? They should be able to get one in for you if they dont have them already. Otherwise let me know by pm and I can send one up to you overnight. OR... If you can do without your visor you could send that to me and ill fit it for you and send it back up to you.

Cheers
Martin

Cool, grabbing one off Martin (easily the most hassle free option!). Can't wait to get it here and install it, thanks!

Had my first day of Uni today (masters) so I communtered in to town, managed to have a bus driver try and merge me into a pancake to avoid a car that was turning right and a road cone in the middle of my lane on symonds st (gigantic wtf).

Cold air over my face the entire way and got a piece of grit in my eye at one point so being able to close the visor fully will be awesome.

[LBD]

I used a BMW helmet that was fitted with a pinlock for a few days...weather was fine so no problem with fogging....What I did find annoying was the edge of the pinlock screen was in my pereferal vision distacting/interferring with my normal visual concentration.

You can remove the pinlock but then need to store it elsewhere when travelling.

Maybe its just me....sigh

[Sparky Bills]

I used a BMW helmet that was fitted with a pinlock for a few days...weather was fine so no problem with fogging....What I did find annoying was the edge of the pinlock screen was in my pereferal vision distacting/interferring with my normal visual concentration.

You can remove the pinlock but then need to store it elsewhere when travelling.

Maybe its just me....sigh



Just one of those things you need to adjust to.
Either you can or you cant.

[robboh]

+1 +++++ for PinLock on Shoei!!!

Used to have all sorts of problems with visor fog, now when come home in evenings I walk into the house with condensation literally dripping everywhere the pinlock isnt, and 100% clear vision!!

Im not so fussed on the 'line' just above your line of sight, but its a small price to pay for not having to fluff with visors in the rain, and at the lights.

Now if I can just figure out how to stop my sunglasses misting up :-)

[Sparky Bills]

Now if I can just figure out how to stop my sunglasses misting up :-)


Easy... Buy a tinted visor so you dont need to wear sunnies :cool:

[LBD]

Easy... Buy a tinted visor so you dont need to wear sunnies :cool:

or a Shuberth helmet....

[ready4whatever]

I have a vent on mine it doesnt seem to fog (when riding) ,only when im walking round with it on

[jahmin]

Had one of these installed yesterday and its brilliant. No more opening and closing the visor at lights etc, and no fogging whatsoever.

Makes a huge difference, and for $50 you can't go wrong.

Thanks very much Martin for installing it for me - great job.

[Sparky Bills]

Good to hear it mate. :done:

[robboh]

Easy... Buy a tinted visor so you dont need to wear sunnies :cool:
That would work, but then require 2 visor changes a day and carrying a second visor around everywhere, since I ride home in the dark every night :laugh:

So yeah, the sunnies are definitely the easier option for dealing with the sun-strike in the mornings.

[jono035]

That would work, but then require 2 visor changes a day and carrying a second visor around everywhere, since I ride home in the dark every night :laugh:

So yeah, the sunnies are definitely the easier option for dealing with the sun-strike in the mornings.

Depends on your helmet I think. I can't wear sunnies in mine at all, they get pushed up and away from my eyes. Bought a tinted visor and the problem is gone. The GSX250F has a cool storage compartment where the tank should be so that is currently where i keep my disk lock, spare visor in a bag and my lunch when I'm riding to Uni. Someone a few posts back mentioned having a half-tinted visor and it being ok for day and night riding? Perhaps that is an option?

Installed a pinlock in that visor over the weekend too, rode to Uni and back yesterday with the visor down and breathing hard into the helmet to try fog it and couldn't. Virtually dripping off everywhere around the pinlock, vision stayed clear. I'm very impressed. Installed it myself without too much hassle using a 5mm drill and some careful hammering :eek: but I'd get the shop to install it next time for sure.

When I went in to Motomail to get the new tinted visor I mentioned to the guy there that the RJays Fog Film stuff didn't work very well and showed him the visor. He suggested that maybe I had installed it wrong so that it hadn't sealed and gave me another one free, top service from that place, impressed again! Stuck that on the clear visor with great care and attention. Worked well on a ride to a friends house late at night but in the morning it looks like it is touching the front of the visor again, so will be back to not really working all that well...

Definitely a pinlock convert, won't bother trying anything else!

Edit: As for the pins being in the edge of your vision it probably depends on how far the visor is away from your eyes, on my RJays GP2 helmet you can only see them if you look hard in one direction and to be honest I only checked that when I first installed it, rode twice yesterday without even noticing.

[Sparky Bills]

That would work, but then require 2 visor changes a day and carrying a second visor around everywhere, since I ride home in the dark every night :laugh:

So yeah, the sunnies are definitely the easier option for dealing with the sun-strike in the mornings.


Thats what Ive done for the last 5 years. Its not hard to change a visor really. I know of people putting their spare visor into a sock to protect it while its not in use. I just dont like wearing sunnies in helmets. But thats just me.

[Sparky Bills]

Someone a few posts back mentioned having a half-tinted visor and it being ok for day and night riding? Perhaps that is an option?



Shoei do a half tint visor. Im not sure about the other brands.

[crazyhorse]

I have a half tint Shoei visor on my helmet. They are great - except at dusk. Brilliant at night in the dark though :motu:

[Sparky Bills]

This deal still going...

[Creeping Death]

Sorry but I've skipped to this last page.

Can these be installed by ones self?

If not,is there anyone in Chch who does?

Thirdly,would a tinted one look naff on a clear visor?

Thanx.

[Sparky Bills]

They can be installed my ones self. You just need to be sure you have it in the correct place and the pins are connected right.

[bonkey]

hi guys noticed your on about visor inserts anti fog n light sensetive etc, we liked them so much we started selling them, i did see one comment about being $100 not sure of the exchange rate but we have been selling them on ebay a year or two now ( sold from russia to america to australia) there from pro grip. mirrored to normal inserts for brow vent arai's and normal visors. our next batch will accomadate pinlocks and tear off posts. you can have a look here>http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/Bonkeys-Bikes or send us mail to bonkeysbikes@ntlworld.com it's be great to help you guys out. as far as i can do the maths its about $48 for us to send you a clear light sensitive insert even our most expensive mirrored one is only $55. so hope this is of use to you guys :-) they are legal for road use in the uk as they dim down to 50% tint in bright sunlight and go clear again in dark for night use without any lense swopping needed.

[bonkey]

hi guys noticed your on about visor inserts anti fog n light sensetive etc, we liked them so much we started selling them, i did see one comment about being $100 not sure of the exchange rate but we have been selling them on ebay a year or two now ( sold from russia to america to australia) there from pro grip. mirrored to normal inserts for brow vent arai's and normal visors. our next batch will accomadate pinlocks and tear off posts. you can have a look here>http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/Bonkeys-Bikes or send us mail to bonkeysbikes@ntlworld.com it's be great to help you guys out. as far as i can do the maths its about $48 for us to send you a clear light sensitive insert even our most expensive mirrored one is only $55. so hope this is of use to you guys :-) they are legal for road use in the uk as they dim down to 50% tint in bright sunlight and go clear again in dark for night use without any lense swopping needed.
Sorry Stew cant seem to be able to reply directly to your question? hope this helps if u c it!!!!