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Okey Dokey
28th June 2009, 20:12
I went to see this exhibit last month and I have been looking on the world with new eyes ever since. What beautiful paintings! The y seemed to glow on the wall before me. Now i notice scenes and colours everyday around me (no drugs involved)

Its funny, I never really knew anything about "ART", but I swotted up a little before going to this show and it has really made a difference to my appreciation. Has anyone else had a revelation like this?

SixPackBack
28th June 2009, 20:39
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Big Dave
28th June 2009, 21:03
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Ixion
28th June 2009, 21:13
A most unlikely topic of discussion on a biker forum surely. Still, we have had antimaccassars and lace doilies before now.

I went to the Monet exhibition some years ago, and was MOST impressed with the capture of the light in his "Haystacks". Quite remarkable.

Mrs Ixion is an enormous Monet fan. I prefer Turner, myself.

Nasty
28th June 2009, 21:17
Have to agree the haystacks are awesome .. some of the work there was stunning ... you could almost loose yourself in the painting.

Indiana_Jones
28th June 2009, 21:18
Not Monet, or an impressionist.

I'm related to this fellow apprently


<img src="http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/exhibitions/holbein/images/works/holbein_johngodsalve.jpg">

-Indy

Big Dave
28th June 2009, 21:24
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anonbiker
28th June 2009, 21:29
Yeah Monet was definitely good. The best paintings were definitely those ones around the back. The church, river and mountain scenes. Pretty psychedelic. :sunny:

James Deuce
28th June 2009, 21:30
Monet's perception of light seems to be down to his cataracts.

It's interesting to compare his early work with his late stuff with an opthamologist to hand.

Maha
28th June 2009, 21:30
All paintings look the same these days beacause they are painted to a romantic ideal rather than as a true depiction of the idiosyncratic wonderous quality of what the artist interprets as his/hers over all view.

Pussy
28th June 2009, 22:02
Its funny, I never really knew anything about "ART

I was the same, OD, until I saw an exhibition of Frida Kahlo originals

Indiana_Jones
28th June 2009, 22:36
All paintings look the same these days beacause they are painted to a romantic ideal rather than as a true depiction of the idiosyncratic wonderous quality of what the artist interprets as his/hers over all view.

Well, your cousin Bert obviously has a larger vocabulary than you, Baldrick.

-Indy

Okey Dokey
29th June 2009, 08:06
All paintings look the same these days beacause they are painted to a romantic ideal rather than as a true depiction of the idiosyncratic wonderous quality of what the artist interprets as his/hers over all view.

Yes, Monet in particular was really insistent on painting what he SAW, the image before his eyes. He caught a lot of flack from the establishment of the time because of this.

Another poster mentioned the contrast between when his vision was quite bad, and after he had his cataracts removed, and it was so evident. The painting of the cathedral was a standout for me; when you were close to it (where Monet would have been standing to paint it), it was very "vague" looking. Then when you viewed it from across the room, it was a beautiful image of a cathedral in misty morning light. THEN when you went about 2 rooms away it looked almost like a photo of the same scene, such was the accuracy of the composition. All I can say is wow. Clever guy.

vifferman
29th June 2009, 08:31
Well, I must be the odd one out, because I was rather underwhelmed by the Monet exhibition, although I did like a couple of the paintings. When we got home, I was looking for one of the paintings on the Interdweeb, and was amazed at how many paintings he had done (hundreds!), and how wonderful some of them were compared to those in the Te Papa exhibit.

I'm not a philistine - I had a wonderful time at the Louvre last year, and also at the Paul Getty Centre in Los Angeles (which is fantastic, and FREE). I just thought that after queuing for nearly an hour it wasn't as impressive as I was expecting it to be.

Okey Dokey
29th June 2009, 08:50
You are not the first person I've heard comment on this, v-man. I haven't been to the Louvre or seen works like this before, so I guess it all depends. I was glad to get this "taste", and would definitely go to another exhibit that came so close to home.

And I didn't have to queue- a man sold me the ticket at the end of the day prior. I was first in the next morning- just me and the paintings for a second!

marioc
29th June 2009, 10:37
I thought it was pretty neat,not usually my cup of tea either.
The F1 exhibition however vrmmmmm

slofox
29th June 2009, 11:06
If you really want to be blown away by Impressionist paintings, try the Musee d'Orsay in Paris...even a gormless dork like myself can be impressed by that place...

3L4NS1R
29th June 2009, 11:10
I just thought that after queuing for nearly an hour it wasn't as impressive as I was expecting it to be.

Agreed.

I was ecstatic to hear it was coming to NZ, and full kudos to Te Papa for bringing the big artists here. It's always a struggle for NZ galleries to get any works of decent size here, so to get any Monet works is an impressive act

BUT.

It was one of the worst laid out exhibition I've been to for a while. It had no flow, after walking down one isle, I had no clue where to go next. Exhibitions shouldn't do that to you, it should flow nicely, with a logical progression and allow you to immerse yourself in the art itself.

Compare that to the 'Holbein to Hockney' exhibition a few years ago. That was a beautiful example of a chronologically organised exhibition that took you on a journey.

vifferman
29th June 2009, 11:25
If you really want to be blown away by Impressionist paintings, try the Musee d'Orsay in Paris...even a gormless dork like myself can be impressed by that place...
Thanks for that. :niceone:
I'll check it out next year.

klingon
29th June 2009, 11:45
Monet's perception of light seems to be down to his cataracts.

It's interesting to compare his early work with his late stuff with an opthamologist to hand.

I was just having this very discussion with an elderly friend the other day! At the age of 83 she has cataracts and her daughters have been teasing her about her changed perception of colour. She started knitting one of her grandkids a cardigan - at night she thought she was using pink wool then in the morning she discovered it was yellow!

The poor old dear was getting a bit distressed about this so I had a chat with her over a cuppa about Monet and how his colour perception changed over time, and how some of his most famous and popular paintings were affected by his cataracts.

Now when her kids tease her she can explain how she and other great artists share a special way of seeing colour.

http://archopht.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/124/12/1764.pdf

Beemer
29th June 2009, 11:47
...BUT.

It was one of the worst laid out exhibition I've been to for a while. It had no flow, after walking down one isle, I had no clue where to go next. Exhibitions shouldn't do that to you, it should flow nicely, with a logical progression and allow you to immerse yourself in the art itself...

Totally agree. We had to queue for an hour, meaning we had just an hour to view the exhibition before our two hour parking ran out. The place was crowded and we found it quite confusing to wander around. I expected it to be laid out in some logical progression from the earlier works to the later, or have all the works of one artist grouped together. There was no handout explaining the works or how best to view them - and when I foolishly tried writing - in pen!!! - on the pathetic little brochure the names of the paintings I liked so I could discuss them with a friend who had also seen the exhibition, the Nazi security guard (female, but with a real attitude problem) told me they "preferred pencil". How pathetic! There was a guided talk going on at the time (we didn't have time to follow it due to the hour spent queuing) so we had to wait to see some paintings and when the other half wanted to walk around the edge of the group, another (also female, what was it with them?) guard stood there with her arms outstretched and told him to "go around the wall, you can't walk here" - he was about to walk over the last two or three inches of the tape on the floor indicating you should stay behind it!

Some of the paintings were absolutely stunning, like the haystacks and the meadow of flowers, and also the Degas of the racehorses (my favourite) and one of 'fashionable people on the beach' - can't remember who it was by as the Nazi wouldn't let me record it! I didn't like the cathedral because of course we viewed it relatively closely - if a handout had been provided which told you the best distance for viewing, it may have made a difference as several people have told me it was their favourite. The walls in the middle were annoying as I often couldn't get far enough away to view a painting properly.

All in all, I was a bit disappointed. Contrast that with seeing The Queen's Pictures at the old museum many years ago - the paintings were HUGE and some were at the end of long corridors so their full effect was gained. I can still remember some of those paintings but not many from the Monet exhibition I saw earlier this month.

Okey Dokey
29th June 2009, 13:04
Yes, Beemer, I thought that Degas was neat, too. I paid for the audio tour, which was helpful, but mostly I relied on my swotting up knowledge. I'm lucky I planned that bit of reading/research, because it helped me find my way around. It was strangely laid out.

Okey Dokey
29th June 2009, 13:05
If you really want to be blown away by Impressionist paintings, try the Musee d'Orsay in Paris...even a gormless dork like myself can be impressed by that place...

Yes, if I ever get to Paris that is on my "must-see" list!

slofox
29th June 2009, 15:20
Yes, if I ever get to Paris that is on my "must-see" list!

The restaurant in there is pretty "must-eat" as well...kinda pricey though...

Monamie
29th June 2009, 15:52
If you really want to be blown away by Impressionist paintings, try the Musee d'Orsay in Paris...even a gormless dork like myself can be impressed by that place...

I was lucky enough to see some of the Masters paintings on my OE...many years ago:shutup:, in the Muse'e du Louve. Totally amazing:eek5: I saw the Monet exhibition when it was here in about 89'.
My Dad trained the London School of Art so had the joy of growing up on the smell of oil paints:innocent: