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slofox
30th June 2009, 19:06
When I put the Oxford hotgrips on the bike, unbeknownst to me, working in the gloom of the sub-basement garage with all the light of an expiring glow-worm, several drops of the superglue fixative dripped down onto the plastic fairing. And hardened up there before I found the spill days later. It now looks like dried bird-shit and really doesn't want to move at all...
Short of sanding the whole thing down and repainting and reapplying decals etc, does anyone have a viable suggestion to remove the mess? Or do we just wait for it to break down over the next several millennia?
See? It pays to look at what you are doing...:Oops:
Need to know if it has eaten into the paint? I've got the glue and an old plastic panel, so I'll go do a test and see what happens. If the paint is undamaged, it may be possible to file it off, but you need a special file and some skill.
I'll see what I can come up with and get back to you!
slofox
30th June 2009, 19:18
Need to know if it has eaten into the paint? I've got the glue and an old plastic panel, so I'll go do a test and see what happens. If the paint is undamaged, it may be possible to file it off, but you need a special file and some skill.
I'll see what I can come up with and get back to you!
Thanks Owl...
From what I can see, it has not eaten into the paint. Some small bits of it I have managed to flake off and the paint beneath is undamaged. Overall though, it shows a reluctance to move very far at all...guess that's why it's called superglue...
Crisis management
30th June 2009, 19:21
Somewhere in the dark recesses of my mind I recall there is something for removing superglue (cyanoacrylate) it may be worth a google or ask around your local hardware shop....if you do find something try it out on a spare bit of plastic first.
edit..I was right, acetone or there is a special debonding agent, try a hobby shop.
slofox
30th June 2009, 19:24
Somewhere in the dark recesses of my mind I recall there is something for removing superglue (cyanoacrylate) it may be worth a google or ask around your local hardware shop....if you do find something try it out on a spare bit of plastic first.
edit..I was right, acetone or there is a special debonding agent, try a hobby shop.
Will do...
PrincessBandit
30th June 2009, 19:35
Hi Balu here. Know how you feel. Happened to me on PB's bike. Managed to get it of using a plastic scraper that wasn't so hard as to damage the paint and then mothers carnuba car wax. Hope this helps.
klingon
30th June 2009, 19:40
Acetone is the main ingredient in some nail polish removers. Apparently when you get artificial nails, they basically superglue them on to your real nails :shit: then you need an acetone-based remover to get them off again.
So you might try asking at a chemist or a nail bar/beauty parlour type place.
sunhuntin
30th June 2009, 19:43
boy, slo, you think youve got problems. :laugh:
i glued something at work and had to open the teeny tiny little tube first. i stuck the point on the lid through the foil seal and i swear at least 90% of the glue exited the tube at a great rate of knots and went all my fingers. end result was my finger nails were fused to the finger for about 3 days. having a glue covered thumb really reduces how much you can feel.
Conquiztador
30th June 2009, 19:44
Acetone is the main ingredient in some nail polish removers. Apparently when you get artificial nails, they basically superglue them on to your real nails :shit: then you need an acetone-based remover to get them off again.
So you might try asking at a chemist or a nail bar/beauty parlour type place.
Acetone melts plastic...
nosebleed
30th June 2009, 19:45
talk to 'Holdfast' they're in Hamilton. they have everything for glueing, and everything for de-glueing.
they have little bottles of acetone and white spirits and all sorts of shit, just ring the H/O and they'll put you onto something
Laxi
30th June 2009, 19:47
Acetone melts plastic...
glad some one pointed that out, not the kindest thing to put on paint
YellowDog
30th June 2009, 20:15
If you've managed to brake some off and scratch the surface, a not too powerful waterblast will help it on its way. I'd suggest steaming it but your transfers wouldn't enjoy that.
Good luck.
By all means have a go with a possible chemical solution. It will certainly be easier than my method, although it did work. I just have to hand cut the panel, but I don't have any compound here and I'm out of metal polish (works great)!
Bloody tough going and that glue is hard as hell, but it didn't eat into the paint. Nearly killed my file though.:laugh:
Acetone melts plastic...
I'm guessing you're talking about solvent sensitive plastics such as CD cases?
Most plastics aren't!
CookMySock
30th June 2009, 21:32
Probably rub some oily stuff into it, like wax, cooking oil, kerosene, etc, and just let time do its' thing.
Steve
=cJ=
30th June 2009, 22:39
You can get superglue remover, super glue ( AKA cyanoacrylite) is used heaps to glue up model planes.
Look for it at a model store.
Conquiztador
1st July 2009, 01:09
I'm guessing you're talking about solvent sensitive plastics such as CD cases?
Most plastics aren't!
Hey, I am no plastics expert. I have been welding some and repairing faerings for my own use, I have played with different solvents when I don't want to weld and acetone tends to make most plastics soft, sort of guey. Personally I would not use it on a OK faering or on paint. I would do the elbow grease option. Yes it will take the longest and be the most work, but better then the "Fuck, now its worse then it was!" option when trialling stuff.
Hey, I am no plastics expert. I have been welding some and repairing faerings for my own use, I have played with different solvents when I don't want to weld and acetone tends to make most plastics soft, sort of guey. Personally I would not use it on a OK faering or on paint. I would do the elbow grease option. Yes it will take the longest and be the most work, but better then the "Fuck, now its worse then it was!" option when trialling stuff.
Neither am I, nor with chemicals:msn-wink:. A quick online check would suggest you’re right and acetone will dissolve ABS plastic, so please accept my humble apologies.
My side panel happens to be ABS, but I’d still like to test acetone on the paint, as I like doing things like that. Now, where to get some acetone?:confused:
I just realized there is another issue using my method on slofox’s bike. That issue being a Suzuki with possibly ultra thin paint that won’t allow any leeway.:no: Bugger!:blink:
dogsnbikes
1st July 2009, 08:13
Try Blackflag..... Mum used it on my fingers when they got glued together bear in mind tho that it would remove rego stickers of car windscreens your decals should be ok as they should have a clear coat over them anyway
fergie
1st July 2009, 12:45
Blackflag? as in flyspray blackflag?
NOWOOL
1st July 2009, 13:01
Acetone melts plastic...
he's hit the nail on the head: the glue is now part of the fairing. Even the 'superglues' that don't do plastics still eat plastic.
sand and paint. sorry about that.
he's hit the nail on the head: the glue is now part of the fairing. Even the 'superglues' that don't do plastics still eat plastic.
sand and paint. sorry about that.
What shit advice!:weird: You seem to forget there is a painted surface between the glue and plastic. The glue certainly didn't become part of my ABS side-panel and I repaired it without painting.
I imagine slofox will still have a few good options to try before having to visit a paint shop!
Blackflag? as in flyspray blackflag?
I'm wanting to know this too. What a classic!:laugh:
Retch
1st July 2009, 17:49
Perhaps you use black flag and a lighter to burn the two pieces together??? :D
slofox
1st July 2009, 17:56
Rang Holdfast today - they were as much use as the proverbial...just said "no solvents - scrape it off"..huh. Their goddam glues don't work anyway...
Crisis management
1st July 2009, 20:34
Go to a bloody hobby shop! :soon:
You can buy super glue dissolvery stuff there, I've bought it, used it, it does exist...ok?
Try it on a spare or not obvious (internal) bit of fairing first to check for any reaction.
I'll leave you alone now......
rocketman1
1st July 2009, 20:46
Slofox Bugger aye.
Time will fix it.
Dropped some on the bonnet of the car once, I tried scraping it off, and took the paint off, so I stopped half way through the job and left it.
Would you believe about 9 months - 1 year later, it came half loose. like a scab & I just picked it off, the part underneath just polished up fine, I wish I had left the whole thing for the sun and nature to remove.
There is probably some remnants of polish on the bike fairing that may protect the paint to some degree.
I would just forget about it. you will only stuff it up touching it.
I would NOT put any chemicals / solvents near it, you will be replacing the whole fairing.
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