Upgrading from a 400cc

[grim26]

Ive been riding a NC24 Honda VFR 400 for about a year now and for the last few months Its been a lil gutless for me so I want to upgrade. Ive been looking at a few 750cc's and Im wondering whether I'll get sick of it too quick and I if should go straight for a 900cc+ ???

[p.dath]

Why not make the jump to superbike, and then you know you wont be dissapointed!

[CookMySock]

I think you will find even a 600 is light years agead of a 400.

Steve

[koba]

Ive been riding a NC24 Honda VFR 400 for about a year now and for the last few months Its been a lil gutless for me so I want to upgrade. Ive been looking at a few 750cc's and Im wondering whether I'll get sick of it too quick and I if should go straight for a 900cc+ ???

Why do you need more power?

Bored?

If that's the case, try racing.

I have found on NZ roads a 400 is plenty enough.

[Ragingrob]

Yeah a newer 600 would have a pretty decent kick to it compared to an nc24.

Anything much bigger than a 600 and you'd be definitely losing the flickability of the 400.

[PirateJafa]

I think you will find even a 600 is light years agead of a 400.

Steve

Unless it's Korean. :rofl:

[h_tron]

possibly add a supercharger??:confused:

[elevenhundred]

Theres no replacement for displacement.

Seriously though it's up to you, test ride some from both camps, that might be enough for you to decide.

[grim26]

haha! thats the plan!

[enigma51]

suzuki thou

600 and hondas are gay

[YellowDog]

Ive been riding a NC24 Honda VFR 400 for about a year now and for the last few months Its been a lil gutless for me so I want to upgrade. Ive been looking at a few 750cc's and Im wondering whether I'll get sick of it too quick and I if should go straight for a 900cc+ ???
I was saying ther same about the 650 I had. I had just gotten so used to it that I was getting bored.

I am sure that you can re-tune and in-invent it to be a better bike, but it will still be the same 400 that you are used to.

There are other things to consider other than the engine size. Best you start looking at what it is you are really after, apart from more umph to carry you around (as in TriUMPH).

There is lots of power to be had in the V-Twin 600 arena. And there is lots of fun to be had in looking for one that suits you. Perhaps only start looking above 600 when you have decoded that there isn't one that is able to 'float you boat'.

Good luck.

[UNSTABLE]

To be honest you will 'get used' to the power of just about any bike, even 1000cc+ it's just you won't get quite so bored with it...

The most interesting thing I find is that if I ride a big grunty monster, I tend to ride slower, which is better for the license.It's just nice knowing all that power is there. Little 600 buzz bombs might be just about as fast around a windy road, but they don't have the instant low-end and midrange response of a big bugger. Also cruising at 100-110Km/H at 6-7000 rpm is just freakin annoying!!!

[davebullet]

Is it straight line boredom or twisty boredom you get?

Reason I ask, is money spent on suspension could bring a whole different level of excitement. For me, the SV650 is plenty fun enough in a straight line, light enough for the twisties, but has shitty suspension. I'd rather spend my money on suspension upgrades... or get a better quality bike with better stock suspension (but I don't need the extra power or weight).

[hayd3n]

To be honest you will 'get used' to the power of just about any bike, even 1000cc+ it's just you won't get quite so bored with it...

The most interesting thing I find is that if I ride a big grunty monster, I tend to ride slower, which is better for the license.It's just nice knowing all that power is there. Little 600 buzz bombs might be just about as fast around a windy road, but they don't have the instant low-end and midrange response of a big bugger. Also cruising at 100-110Km/H at 6-7000 rpm is just freakin annoying!!!
i cruise at 120kms 5000 revs

[jrandom]

Ive been riding a NC24 Honda VFR 400 for about a year now and for the last few months Its been a lil gutless for me so I want to upgrade.

Pfft.

Just learn to ride it properly.

http://www.motott.co.nz/

[been_there]

Ive been riding a NC24 Honda VFR 400 for about a year now and for the last few months Its been a lil gutless for me so I want to upgrade. Ive been looking at a few 750cc's and Im wondering whether I'll get sick of it too quick and I if should go straight for a 900cc+ ???

Had not problem jumping into the 955 from the cage....
Definitely a thrill factor everytime I go for a ride :wari:

[coffeejunkie]

Pfft.

Just learn to ride it properly.

http://www.motott.co.nz/


He does ride it properly, Well everytime he's out with us he does.....Balzy said get a TL you know you want too.....

I say Man Up and get a 675 then i can ride it too:done:

[ManDownUnder]

the size of the next step is largely irrelevant in my opinion - you're going from something that can throw you down the road and hurt you real bad... to something that could easily kill you.

It's also opening up the possibility of doing exactly what you want without power being a limiting factor... so it raises the question... what do you want to do?

Long distance riding etc - a big motor will happily pour out the power k after k. Racing would suggest you go for something smaller first till you get your skills up then progress through the various classes... etc
Answer the "what do I want to do" question and get the best bike for the job (within budget of course)

[HenryDorsetCase]

i cruise at 120kms 5000 revs

lawbreaker!

criminal!

get an SV650, or a Street Triple or Daytona 675. Learn to ride it proper like.

[dipshit]

The most interesting thing I find is that if I ride a big grunty monster, I tend to ride slower, which is better for the license.It's just nice knowing all that power is there. Little 600 buzz bombs might be just about as fast around a windy road, but they don't have the instant low-end and midrange response of a big bugger.

I have just gone from a SV1000 to a GSX-R600. I actually find the 600 easier to ride closer to the speed limit. On the SV it was so easy to pass traffic with just a twist of the throttle. You only needed small gaps and you could be very quickly doing 160. I found myself constantly passing traffic.

On the 600 it isn't as easy and requires a bit more thought and planning. So now i find myself cruising along at 110 ish more while on the main state highways.




Also cruising at 100-110Km/H at 6-7000 rpm is just freakin annoying!!!

Just don't fit a noisy exhaust system then!

Apart from that its mostly psychological. Sure the needle may be reading 6000 rpm... but it's got a hell of a long way to go before it reaches the 16000 redline.

[dipshit]

For me, the SV650 is plenty fun enough in a straight line, light enough for the twisties, but has shitty suspension. I'd rather spend my money on suspension upgrades... or get a better quality bike with better stock suspension (but I don't need the extra power or weight).

And this is largely why i traded in my SV1000 on a GSX-R600.

[javawocky]

I chose the SV1k over the GSXR600 because of the torque without the crazy power of the GSXR1000. Plus it sounds sweeet :Punk:

Get your leg over some bikes to try them out. I so wanted a GSXR600 but was disappointed by the power deliver (read little lower down power) when I road it - and felt cramped up - but man, it handled so well.

If I ever upgrade I will probably try the GSXR750 or the Daytona 675, but for now I am very happy with the SV
*Edit: don't forget the extra price you pay on insurance + license + tyres on the 1L bikes

[one fast tl1ooo]

just buy what you want, and ride it, more power the better, so you can beat your friends:laugh::laugh:

[chanceyy]

Hey Dude

hear where your at .. Test riding is truely your friend .. I liked the look of the bandit so was half sold .. then test road a 600 & was instantly comfy however took the advice of the guys I ride with & my mentor to test ride the 1200 (never considered it before)

so did and yup my mentor was spot on the money .. it would take approx a yr to get really comfy with the roll on power, weight etc however I will never outgrow it .. the 600 would have become to vanilla to quickly .. and I :love: my 1200 (as you prob know)

control is all in the twist of the wrist .. regardless of size of motor etc, if you do not think you can control the speed (but seeing you ride & quite happy to pottle along I doubt that will be a issue) you may want to reconsider size

however again test riding is definitely your friend :)

and dunna worry about a 675 Red will understand .... true ..

[Insanity_rules]

On my way back up to a big boy bike I went from a 400 to a 900 (Both Ducati's) and found out a few home truths. I ride a bit of distance and find the 900 a god send on the motorway but round town the 400 was so much more chuckable and city friendly. The 900 goes from stop to sshhheeerrttt very quickly so have to have a very deft touch on Mr throttle crawling through town (did I mention some evil basket modified the nuts off my current ride before I bought it?). I wanted an animal so I bought an animal.

Test ride is the way to go, only you know what you'll like. Having a ballsy bike is huge fun but living with it can be a different story, there are trade offs. Oh and big V twins are the freakin business if you want power everywhere.

[slydesigns]

I went from a CBR400RR to a D675 and am loving it! When I move to OZ next year I'm either going for an 09 D675 or a CBR1000RR

[coffeejunkie]

Right thats it grim.....After our chat last night it's time to do some serious test riding.....

Balzy is going to welling motorcycles saturday morning so maybe we should tag along:done:

[slydesigns]

Oh I forgot to add... my mental brazilian girl has been riding all of 6 months on a CBF250 and has tried the 675 and found it easy to ride and a whole lot of fun! So if shes comfortable on it and shes a total bike newbie, then you'll love the triple!

They are a ton of fun, easy to ride, forgiving in every situation, bar headshake from landing off centre after wheelies, and they look and sound great!

Since they were released in 06 to 08 they are mechanically identical, so the only issue would be Kms and condition. 09's has minor but useful changes if you ride fast, otherwise go an 06/07 model.

Some as cheap as $7K on Trademe recently.

One drawback is the cost of tyres and parts. It eats high quality tyres and brake pads. Put shite ones on and its a nightmare to ride unless you like rolling burnouts and grabby brakes. Put the good stuff on and its a weapon.

[scracha]

my mental brazilian girl has been riding all of

How did you convince your girlfriend to go Brazilian? I've been beggin mine for months :Oops:

[slydesigns]

Born and Raised, not razor made...lol and a true "brazilian" isn't what we all think, close but not quite... Its way classier, way better.

[grim26]

lol.. theres nothing wrong with my riding thanks.. I just want sumthing that I dont have to work as hard on to keep up with Balzy on his Buell!!! Altho the 400 did well!, for a 400, with 90kgs on it!

[grim26]

just buy what you want, and ride it, more power the better, so you can beat your friends:laugh::laugh:
Now this guy knows what hes talking about !!!:headbang:

[huff3r]

lol.. theres nothing wrong with my riding thanks.. I just want sumthing that I dont have to work as hard on to keep up with Balzy on his Buell!!! Altho the 400 did well!, for a 400, with 90kgs on it!

Hmmm... so would you be looking at selling the VFR then?...

[lostinflyz]

i went from a nc21 to a 954 fireblade. best choice ever. but again i think i enjoyed the old rubbish box nc21. it didn't handle, it was quite slow, but you had to work to ride it and could try on the roads.

the 954 had to be ridden at stupid speeds to give you the same rush and its rather dangerous.

but to cruise on and not be an idiot (same days im not) your much safer on the blade. You dont have to ride corners as hard and can ride safer, as it has the snot to get you back up with anyone. and you respect the bike alot more, so i tended not to try such silly things. and the acceleeration stil makes me giggle. even though its now gone.