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DarkLord
4th July 2009, 14:56
Coming down my street this afternoon, my neighbours stupid fluffy yapping dog runs out in front of my bike barking for at least the THIRD time. I managed to stop before I hit the thing, as it's only a 50 zone and I'm not going fast, but this is at least the third time this has happened and it is really starting to piss me off.

I gave the owner the most evil of evil glares and revved my engine violently outside his house before going up my driveway. I think he got the message as when I later took off down the road again for a ride, the dog wasn't there, however if this happens again he's going to get a nice blast of hot air from me.

I am curious - is there anything I could use to really threaten this bugger with? If I hit that dog, there's a good chance I am off, and knowing fucking insurance companies, they will blame me. I've had one crash in my year and a half of riding and I most certainly do not want to risk another one. I'm not going to risk my bike and my health because some prick can't control his precious little dog. I've thought about threatening him with the prospect of drop-kicking the thing over his house, but is there anything I could legally do (such as threaten to call the dog pound) and also, does anyone know for certain if the insurance company would blame me, if the dog ran out in front of me and I couldn't stop in time?

Cheers,

DarkLord

MIXONE
4th July 2009, 14:58
I always found that a well timed kick puts off the most determined dog.A little yapper will barely cause a sideways movement.
Or accidently run the fuggin handbag over!

beyond
4th July 2009, 14:58
If it's a small dog, you loft the front wheel to clear the little shit, whack it with your back wheel while dropping the front and rev the bike. Get it right and you'll run the little shit over and spit it out the back all in one smooth fluid movement and I'd lay a large bet it won't happen again :)

DarkLord
4th July 2009, 14:59
It is only a little yapper, so if it hits my rear wheel (not the front of course) there is a good chance it won't affect me?

duckonin
4th July 2009, 15:00
Nope say nothing and ring dog control = your local council, that should end the problem, under the dog control act he can have his dog removed and impounded...plus he could end up with a big bill to pay....that would make him a bit:sick:

DarkLord
4th July 2009, 15:00
If it's a small dog, you loft the front wheel to clear the little shit, whack it with your back wheel while dropping the front and rev the bike. Get it right and you'll run the little shit over and spit it out the back all in one smooth fluid movement and I'd lay a large bet it won't happen again :)

Getting the front wheel up.... as much as I'd love to, it's a bit tricky on the Hyoslug :)

hayd3n
4th July 2009, 15:01
call the pound and advise of a stray dog running round the street

hayd3n
4th July 2009, 15:02
Getting the front wheel up.... as much as I'd love to, it's a bit tricky on the Hyoslug :)

naa just sit on the passenger seat even a gn can get the front wheel up

beyond
4th July 2009, 15:05
It is only a little yapper, so if it hits my rear wheel (not the front of course) there is a good chance it won't affect me?

Yeah mate, just like mounting the curb except softer.... :)

But, you do that when you are really angry, don't care if you'll start a neighbourhood feud and know he hasn't got guns.

Otherwise... do what the rest said and ring the council or dog control and say several times your life has been at risk because the nieghbour will not lock up his dog.

Duke girl
4th July 2009, 15:05
The dog isn't suppose to be out of the property and should be behind the fence or in the backyard. I suggest that you get in contact with the Dog Ranger next time it is out as it will end up causing you to come off your bike which is the last thing you need. If the pound pick it up it will cost the owner money to get it out of the pound and the dog should be registered as well.
No road user should have to put up with dogs running out in front of them and the owners need to take more responsibility on making sure their animal is securely behind fences/gates at all times.

p.dath
4th July 2009, 15:05
I don't know which council jurisdiction your in, but there is usualy a requirement to keep a dog confined. So if the owner wont comply, ring the council's dog control. They'll probably issue them a warning notice to begin with. If they don't comply the dog will be removed.

Blackbird
4th July 2009, 15:15
If it's a small dog, you loft the front wheel to clear the little shit, whack it with your back wheel while dropping the front and rev the bike. Get it right and you'll run the little shit over and spit it out the back all in one smooth fluid movement and I'd lay a large bet it won't happen again :)

Just don't have a mate following you too closely. On the Grand Challenge, I was following a mate with a 'busa when he ran over a possum in the dark. It's not nice having to clean animal grapeshot off the front of your jacket and helmet:sick::sick:

BTW, have you actually tries talking to the neighbour first?

beyond
4th July 2009, 15:16
Just don't have a mate following you too closely. On the Grand Challenge, I was following a mate with a 'busa when he ran over a possum in the dark. It's not nice having to clean animal grapeshot off the front of your jacket and helmet:sick::sick:

LOL :blink:
EEEwwwww.... messy :)

DarkLord
4th July 2009, 15:20
Just don't have a mate following you too closely. On the Grand Challenge, I was following a mate with a 'busa when he ran over a possum in the dark. It's not nice having to clean animal grapeshot off the front of your jacket and helmet:sick::sick:

BTW, have you actually tries talking to the neighbour first?

Not really. I never really see them. However I think my glare said it all today. I'm hoping he will have got the message from that, and I won't need to become aggressive.

Blackbird
4th July 2009, 15:31
Not really. I never really see them. However I think my glare said it all today. I'm hoping he will have got the message from that, and I won't need to become aggressive.

I wasn't trying to be smart, I was just thinking that polite discussion paves the way to more formal action if they tell you to piss off. One of our neighbours has a dog that howls whenever she goes out for more than a couple of hours or so. We spoke politely to her about it and nothing changed so we got the dog ranger in by ringing the local council hotline. This was great fun as she's a local councilwoman! She takes the bloody thing with her now and drops it off somewhere when she has to attend meetings. Doing it by the book pushes offenders into a corner.

DarkLord
4th July 2009, 15:43
I wasn't trying to be smart, I was just thinking that polite discussion paves the way to more formal action if they tell you to piss off. One of our neighbours has a dog that howls whenever she goes out for more than a couple of hours or so. We spoke politely to her about it and nothing changed so we got the dog ranger in by ringing the local council hotline. This was great fun as she's a local councilwoman! She takes the bloody thing with her now and drops it off somewhere when she has to attend meetings. Doing it by the book pushes offenders into a corner.

I know dude, it's all good :)

I guess the main thing is that it's happened more than a few times now, each time the neighbour has been in their yard and has seen it happen. Their dog is at risk just as much as I am and as far as I'm concerned they should have done something about it by now. I think my glare straight at him today made my feelings pretty clear, and I hope they learn from it. Maybe I should go and talk to them but for some reason I get the feeling it could turn ugly very quickly, and I tend to be a bit of a loose cannon when the bike is involved. Perhaps calling the dog ranger if it happens again may be the best solution.

p.dath
4th July 2009, 15:43
I've had a similar issue with kids. Where my girlfriend lives there are a couple of boys, probably about 10, who skateboard down the street. I was on my bike about 7pm one night, came around the corner and had to modify my line considerably to avoid them.
Anyway pulled into her place and then took a couple of minutes to calm down.

Couldn't find the kids after that, or figure out who there parents are to warn the parents.

LaytonNZ
4th July 2009, 16:31
Well....You have a Cage dont you?:D Problem solved. You have bigger wheels and 4 of them!

FJRider
4th July 2009, 16:39
Just dont kick the dog unless you are wearing a good pair of boots. I've seen many broken toes after some have tried that. And a few flying dogs too. Only reccomended on SMALL dogs.

bsasuper
4th July 2009, 16:54
step 1, grab dog when out in the street

step2, tie dog up in your yard out of sight of owner

step3, call animal control, advise of stray dog detained in yard, they will be straight around to collect.

step4, watch owner as he has to go collect it and pay.

step5, see step 1 if owner still does not get it.

Motu
4th July 2009, 17:17
The thing to do with dogs that chase bikes - is to chase them! A yappy little dog used to come out at me every day...so I took the time to chase him around the streets,and right onto his front lawn! Big donuts on the grass.Did that a couple of times and whenever he saw me he'd run inside his gate.Even little bikes can sort big dogs - a German Shepard used to come out and have a go at my C50 every day...I took to aiming at him and running across his front lawn.Soon when he saw me coming down the road he'd go back in his kennel.The owner of that dog was a workmate....he never mentioned me chasing the dog on his property,and I never raised the matter either.

nosebleed
4th July 2009, 18:04
Just don't have a mate following you too closely. On the Grand Challenge, I was following a mate with a 'busa when he ran over a possum in the dark. It's not nice having to clean animal grapeshot off the front of your jacket and helmet:sick::sick:

BTW, have you actually tries talking to the neighbour first?

:killingme

guess they do things differently outside-a Auckland, huh. shit thats good!

hang0ver
4th July 2009, 18:10
revved my engine violently outside his house before going up my driveway.

That must have scared the shit outta him!

But seriously... I've run over a fully intact possum at about 100, hardly noticed a thing... Could be different with less momentum?

DarkLord
4th July 2009, 18:17
That must have scared the shit outta him!

But seriously... I've run over a fully intact possum at about 100, hardly noticed a thing... Could be different with less momentum?

Lol... well I do have a noisy zorst, and he was in his front yard at the time and I was looking straight at him... hopefully I made my point :)

I'm not too worried if I hit it with the back wheel. It's that it runs out straight towards my front wheel which concerns me. However my flatmate has complained of the same thing, while in his car. Perhaps he should just "not see it" next time? :devil2:

hang0ver
4th July 2009, 18:24
Perhaps he should just "not see it" next time? :devil2:

Haha, this will earn me some flame, but I have no love for little dogs... They should never be let out of the handbag right? I think I would get over it pretty quickly.

And I'm not one of those tough guy dog enthusiasts... Our Lab is the best natured dog I've ever met... He is also very selective with his barking.
Small dog = Small man syndrome?

sunhuntin
4th July 2009, 19:03
i had a dog go for my foot a few years ago when i was leaving for work. his owners were over the road laughing. lucky that i left my drive faster than normal, otherwise he would have had my foot, steel caps and all.
rang the dog ranger when i got to work, and they basically couldnt give a shit. never saw the dog or the owners again though, so yeh. i thought they came from the house across the road, which at the time was occupied by mongrel mob, which could account for the lack of guts on councils part.

davebullet
4th July 2009, 19:09
Print out a colour A1 sized doberman face, place on card then stick to the front of your bike. Make menacing noises and aim for the dog - it will freak him out.

Seriously, from what I've read, you slow your approach toward the dog. Chasing dogs usually prefer to "attack" from behind (rarely head on) - so it will head to the side of you then around to the back wheel. Then hoof it (excuse pun) and leave it behind.

You shouldn't have to put up with this every time you leave your house though.

A quite conversation is good.... don't mention how it pisses you off - tell him you don't want to inconvenience him by killing his dog.

Forest
4th July 2009, 20:03
If you hurt or kill your neighbor's dog, you'll start a feud that will be guaranteed to end badly.

CookMySock
4th July 2009, 20:33
Mostly, dogs like living too, and they won't get under your wheels if they can help it. If you think you can get away with it, swerve harrd at them!! This will fuck their timing up something chronic and make them run like hell. Next time it is unlikely they will try that again with you.

If you are going to hit something small, then hit it fast. Probably it won't knock you off - rather you will knock IT off. There's a video on youtube of a biker hitting a deer and utterly decimating it.

Steve

Katman
4th July 2009, 20:37
Lol... well I do have a noisy zorst,

You're telling me!

Your bike sounded like a tractor on acid when you went past this afternoon.

DarkLord
4th July 2009, 21:18
Hehe... tractor on acid. :scooter:

I don't really want to hurt the thing. Just giving it a decent enough scare (or the owners a decent enough fine) to stop it doing it again would be more than satisfactory for me.

Thing is, if it's not me, someone's going to hit it, and with the way I've seen some people drive down my street the dog is definitely going to come off second best.

wickle
4th July 2009, 21:25
Try a squirt bottle with an watered down ammonia product in it aim at dogs nose, might be easy for a pillon passenger to do, otherwise try dog ranger or all else fails , catch dog, park bike on its tail family friend did that with his sheepdog that always chased car tyres, it worked

monkeymcbean
4th July 2009, 22:01
The thing to do with dogs that chase bikes - is to chase them! A yappy little dog used to come out at me every day...so I took the time to chase him around the streets,and right onto his front lawn! Big donuts on the grass.Did that a couple of times and whenever he saw me he'd run inside his gate.Even little bikes can sort big dogs - a German Shepard used to come out and have a go at my C50 every day...I took to aiming at him and running across his front lawn.Soon when he saw me coming down the road he'd go back in his kennel.The owner of that dog was a workmate....he never mentioned me chasing the dog on his property,and I never raised the matter either.

Ha ha :lol: These antics reminded me of push bike touring round Europe, in France riveria they have big dogs behind big fences as security for the ritzy houses and we would ride past with these dogs giving us the wind up with barking etc.
We would give a bit of taunting back just to see how high they would try to jump to get over the fences. It was all fun until one dog got through a gap in the fence at the end....:gob: it was the days when drink bottles and pumps fastened to the frame of your bike...so these came in handy for defense weaponery...pretty dumb really, got the adrenilan levels up.

caseye
4th July 2009, 23:13
Well first thing, go talk to the neighbour, ask him to make sure his dog is properly contained on his property.
If that doesn't work, ring council three times in one week, about this yappy dangereous "in the street dog" then they have to come out and remove the dog.
Last resort turn it into a slipper! yep a swift kick up the gunga and shes a slip on! like ol FJ said though, make sure yer wearing good footwear.

CookMySock
5th July 2009, 08:50
The thing to do with dogs that chase bikes - is to chase them! A yappy little dog used to come out at me every day...so I took the time to chase him around the streets,and right onto his front lawn! Big donuts on the grass.Did that a couple of times and whenever he saw me he'd run inside his gate.Even little bikes can sort big dogs - a German Shepard used to come out and have a go at my C50 every day...I took to aiming at him and running across his front lawn.Soon when he saw me coming down the road he'd go back in his kennel.Hell yeah, this works really well, and its funny as fuck too.


I don't really want to hurt the thing. Just giving it a decent enough scare (or the owners a decent enough fine) to stop it doing it again would be more than satisfactory for me.Yeah, try what we're saying.. Ride full noise and swerve right at him and hit the horn.. watch that tail go between his legs and stay there! Fucken funny as. :killingme



I've run over a fully intact possum at about 100, hardly noticed a thing... Could be different with less momentum?Yup. Just hit 'em hard and you will be fine.

Steve

scracha
5th July 2009, 09:33
Ignore hillbilly sick fucks advising to kick, run over or kill the dog. It's the owners fault. Have quiet word in owners ear and if that doesn't work, phone the council. End of.

caseye
5th July 2009, 09:44
Ignore hillbilly sick fucks advising to kick, run over or kill the dog. It's the owners fault. Have quiet word in owners ear and if that doesn't work, phone the council. End of.

LOL.

If any councils dog control section gets three! phone calls in one week, they are obliged to go and remove the dog, simple as that.
It doens't matter that you made all the calls,even if you made them one after the other.
I've tried talking to owners before, as in myfirst post, thats the first thing you should do.
Unfortunately those who own this sort of yappa don't understand how dangereous their uncontrolled/running free mutt can be to a motorcyclist.

Nor how loud they can be! We have two across the main road, it's four lanes wide through two houses, 2 six foot high fences and through 12mm laminated glass I can hear them both as clear as a bell when they bark/Yap at any and all passers by from behind their wrought iron gates.Day and night 24, 7!
I tell ya they are fast becoming a candidate for the instant slipper treatement, bonus?:bye: theres two of em no waiting till I get a matching pair.

MarkH
5th July 2009, 09:57
Ignore hillbilly sick fucks advising to kick, run over or kill the dog. It's the owners fault.

scracha is right - run over the owner (best done with a car rather than a bike).

caseye
5th July 2009, 10:41
Now theres an IDEA! LOL nice one MarkH.

Motu
5th July 2009, 12:07
Chasing dogs usually prefer to "attack" from behind (rarely head on) - so it will head to the side of you then around to the back wheel.

That's why the frontal attack works best - keep aiming at them,then they turn to run.Keep it up,keep chasing....you are now the big boy,they will run whenever they see your bike.

shafty
5th July 2009, 12:18
I'd agree with those recommending the "Call the Council" route.

The only thing I'd add (from experience) is to get some digi photo's of the dog on the road - maybe from your doorstep on zoom, whatever - it avoids any squirmming out of it by the Owner AND the Council.

Good luck.

Take 8 Heinikens and call me in the morning.

Dr Shafty :woohoo:

gatch
5th July 2009, 14:48
1 tell owner to sort it out
2 if that fails call the council
3 you will only need to run it down once..

Mikkel
6th July 2009, 11:44
While I wouldn't advise you to run the dog down, as has been said there are better ways to sort the situation out. In case all else fail - hell those small yapping dogs are rather annoying, aren't they? - just make sure to be going in a straight line and don't touch your brakes. Conservation of momentum will sort out the situation for you.

DarkLord
1st June 2010, 19:53
Big ass bump -

This happened again the other day. Same story - coming home, trundling down my street at about 30kmph, stupid yapping dog runs out in front of me.

However, this time, I pulled over, put the bike on it's stand and stormed up to the neighbour's front door.

They wouldn't have needed to bother heating their home that evening after all of the hot air I generously donated them. The lady apologized profusely. I didn't swear, and I stuck to the facts - but I made it clear I was VERY angry. I made my point and then left.

One time - it happens. Two times - it does happen but starting to push it. Three times - this was when I posted this thread and glared at the owner who just glared back at me. But four times - something needs to be said.

Genie
1st June 2010, 20:01
terrbile things those yappy little dogs...slingshot with a marble may help.

Like many have said...ring the dog control. stupid thing is out of control.

DarkLord
1st June 2010, 20:17
Don't know if I'll need to now. I moved house recently so I'm not on that street anymore.

However, up till the time that I moved, I never even saw the thing again. Think I put the fear of God into those people. I imagine a completely black clad motorcyclist riding a noisy debaffled v-twin, still wearing his helmet (which would make me over 6 feet tall) and shouting at the top of his lungs could be quite intimidating. :cool:

schrodingers cat
1st June 2010, 20:26
The dog isn't suppose to be out of the property and should be behind the fence or in the backyard. I suggest that you get in contact with the Dog Ranger next time it is out as it will end up causing you to come off your bike which is the last thing you need. If the pound pick it up it will cost the owner money to get it out of the pound and the dog should be registered as well.
No road user should have to put up with dogs running out in front of them and the owners need to take more responsibility on making sure their animal is securely behind fences/gates at all times.

Yes! Yes! Yes! 100% Correct. (now leave KB forum and never post an accurate, helpful reply again - its just not done :smile:)

miloking
2nd June 2010, 00:07
WTF? Unless you are all joking (but doesnt look like for some) those suggesting to realy kill, kick, wheelie over little dog are sick and need mental treatment!

Clearly its a owner problem, luckily OP seems to have the better idea anyway....

doc
2nd June 2010, 06:49
However I think my glare said it all today. I'm hoping he will have got the message from that, and I won't need to become aggressive.

Na the glare would have done it .He will be hiding behind the curtains watching you now tho

slofox
2nd June 2010, 08:34
Years ago I lived opposite a yappy dog that chased every vehicle - including my bike. I saw a program on TV that recommended carrying a water pistol loaded with DILUTED ammonia solution. A couple of squirts of this was supposed to deter the yapper without actually doing it any harm (hence diluted). I never did get a chance to try it out - the dog got squashed by one of the cars it was chasing one evening and the problem was solved - ht. ht. ht. My heart bled...:whistle:

Course these days you'd have lunatic fringe groups like SAFE all over you if you dared to squirt anything stinky at a dog no matter how obnoxious the mutt was...

Oh and just for the record, sheep are worse to run into than dogs. damhik.

ac3_snow
2nd June 2010, 08:49
Hey kinda on topic still but whats the deal with possums on the highway. No worries rolling over them in a car but what about on ya bike, fortunatly I havn't had to find out yet (touch wood!) but do you really need to avoid them? I'm guessing they could cause a bit of hassle especially if your halfway round a corner...

Flip
2nd June 2010, 09:51
Most dog owners love their pets and dont want to see them hurt. Just talk to the owner. If they don't do anything then call the dog ranger. I would not attack the dog in any way because there are all kinds of animal welfare laws you can be charged with.

I have hit (killed) 2 possums, a rabbit and a cat with while riding and have never had a problem apart from the cat that hit me in the foot peg and actually bruised my toes. All the others were just a small squishy judder bars.

Genie
2nd June 2010, 11:53
I'm in laughter mode now...this thread started almost a year ago so I dont' think he needs our advice at this late stage...oh and he's now shifted. Funny how this old thread has been revived. As they say "there's life in the old dog yet!"