Tailormades versus rollies

[jrandom]

So, according to The News (tm), factory-made cigarettes are better for you than roll-yer-owns (http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/2566567/Factory-ciggies-better-than-rollies-study).

I suppose that research might be interesting if you smoke a lot of cigarettes and are looking to minimise damage, although to my mind, that approach is, well, stupid, given that both of the above are probably going to kill you real good if you're smoking one every hour of every day.

No, you might as well smoke what you like in that case, and rollies are cheaper.

Personally, I smoke tobacco once every week or two. Sometimes in a pipe, sometimes in a cigarette, very occasionally a cigar (although I can't really afford to smoke cigars these days).

But I've never met a factory-made cigarette I really liked; hand-rolled Port Royal cigarettes, on the other hand, I find quite delightful as a richly flavoured nicotine chaser to an evening's drinking.

And I've observed that a majority of the KB smoking fraternity seem to incline towards hand-rolled cigarettes, too. I'm not sure if it's for reasons of cost, or simply because the tobacco is nicer.

So, what is it, smokers? Tailormades, or rollies? What's your poison, and for what reason?

And, as an aside, how on earth does one manage to get addicted to smoking cigarettes? I can't imagine the sheer hard work that you must have to put in to get past the 'yuck' barrier to the point where you're smoking the things throughout every day.

Is there anyone who didn't smoke as a youngster, but took it up as an adult, and then increased their consumption to 'Daily Smoker (tm)' levels? Personally, after a few years of occasional tobacco use, I can't imagine doing that.

Or are all the surviving Daily Smokers (tm) people who were peer-pressured through the 'yuck barrier' into becoming addicted while still young and vulnerable?

Your comments please, ladies and gentlemen.

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You're bored aye?

[jrandom]

You're bored aye?

Horribly so.

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Nasal shottys - Old Holborn, when there's a full moon.

On a normal night I just get the wife to blow cocaine up my bum

[Subike]

rollys because they dont continue to fill where ever you are with smoke when you are not "puffing" on them.
I can not see how they think that the sulper added to Taylor mades, to keep them burning is any less healthy.?
With rollys, well, they last longer, taste better, dont burn away to nothing in 5 min, and because you have to make them, IMO you smoke less.
I would smoke 20 a day if I used taylor mades.
I smoke 10 - 15 max with rollys. ( still 10 -15 too many)

But I do agree that both are not good for the health, one day I might get the self control to see them out of my life. Till then? bugger wheres my baccy pouch

[spacemonkey]

I'm an ex smoker, but when I smoked it was Port Royal for me. The flavour was so vastly richer, complex and smoother than any factory ciggy I ever had.
I didn't choose it by price (could afford to smoke whatever I liked back then) but for flavour....... Oh and there is not much to compete with the smell of a freshly opened packet of Port Royal either! :yes:

I'd guess it's worse for your health due to 2 reasons;
1/ Rollups use a different filter (often smaller)
2/ Stronger tobacco (you certainly get a far bigger hit from it)

Not sure how bad for you the saltpeter and such like that they put into the factory made's (to keep them burning) is for you though????

[scumdog]

They both fuck your health - and you are paying to do so.

BTW: Factory-mades are like a jug of beer that has a hole in the bottom.

Both allow the product you paid for to disappear even when you're not using it..:crazy:

[jtzzr]

As a smoker i prefer Rollies as opposed to the other, price and taste is the main reason.

But I wish I hadn`t started at all, what a disgusting habbit.

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Ya won't catch me sucking on fags

[Skyryder]

If ya gonna smoke smoke a pipe.


Skyryder

[naphazoline]

Ya won't catch me sucking on fags

What about a butt then?:laugh:

[sunhuntin]

They both fuck your health - and you are paying to do so.

BTW: Factory-mades are like a jug of beer that has a hole in the bottom.

Both allow the product you paid for to disappear even when you're not using it..:crazy:

yep. my ex in canada used to smoke cigs made on a nearby indian reservation... they looked like factory ones. the way he was, he would light one, have a few puffs, put it in the ash tray to go do something and forget about the smoke. his ash trays smoked more than he did, lol.

personally, im a non smoker, and by the time i entered glenns life, he was too set in his ways to consider retraining. besides, nothing beats the second hand smoke on a chilly canadian morning while out on the bike together. [and dodging the ashes at the same time.]

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What about a butt then?:laugh:

Rim jobs are fine - but no fags

[McJim]

Embassy Filter, Embassy No1, Regal King Size and Kensitas Club.

Nicer than any hand rolled fags and since I used to do in 60 of the bastards per day I could not be arsed rolling my own.

Can't get a decent cigarette outside Jockland though - even in England I found it difficult to lay hands on any of the above brands. Maybe that's why quitting was so easy in the end.

Don't drink any more either since it's too difficult to get my hands on a tap drawn pint of Tennents 70/- ale.

[Genestho]

Yuk on the occasion I've smoked a rolly, the ash goes all over your clothes! Or the filter sticks sticks to your lip! And the other thing when I roll them for drunk friends, they turn into tree stumps! Or trumpets! Hmmm I do smoke tailor mades though, and it is gross, must give up...one day

[SixPackBack]

Embassy Filter, Embassy No1, Regal King Size and Kensitas Club.

Nicer than any hand rolled fags and since I used to do in 60 of the bastards per day I could not be arsed rolling my own.

Can't get a decent cigarette outside Jockland though - even in England I found it difficult to lay hands on any of the above brands. Maybe that's why quitting was so easy in the end.

Don't drink any more either since it's too difficult to get my hands on a tap drawn pint of Tennents 70/- ale.

Fookin soft scots...Senior Service and Woodbines, now they was full strength fags for real men.

[jaymzw]

Smoking is detrimental to ones health. As such i prefer not to partake. Although each to their own, i do hope that you dont need my taxes to pay for your lung transplant or whatever.
Yeah, my parents smoke. Bastards!

Seriously, how do you afford it though? A pack a day or what ever, thats an expensive habit.

[gwigs]

Smoking is detrimental to ones health. As such i prefer not to partake. Although each to their own, i do hope that you dont need my taxes to pay for your lung transplant or whatever.
Yeah, my parents smoke. Bastards!

Seriously, how do you afford it though? A pack a day or what ever, thats an expensive habit.

I am an ex smoker for 13yrs now and if I did get lung cancer I reckon the taxes I paid on ciggies smoked over 25yrs would have paid for quite a few lung transplants etc so non smokers aint paying taxes for a smokers health care.

[scumdog]

I am an ex smoker for 13yrs now and if I did get lung cancer I reckon the taxes I paid on ciggies smoked over 25yrs would have paid for quite a few lung transplants etc so non smokers aint paying taxes for a smokers health care.

I doubt your taxes would even pay for one transplant...:shifty:

[MisterD]

Rollies...started them at about 18 and quit before I was 21, and I cured the "want a tab with me pint" thing by sitting in the pub rolling them for everyone else...at the end of the day, a rollie you can make to your own spec which as a student was of the "single strand of tobacco wrapped in paper" variety and sometimes with resinous additives. It's difficult to retro-fit that to a factory made...

[fridayflash]

tailor mades for me.. although im mostly non smoker nowadays i still
buy the odd pack...and not just when drinking.
i like rollies too but none of those foul filter things tho...

[Forest]

I'm rather partial to the small of a good pipe tobacco (like Borkum Riff).

I really don't like smoking pipes myself. But I don't mind if somebody else wants to smoke one. Bonus points if we're on a boat.

[Toaster]

I don't smoke, I just occassionally find myself attached to the end of a hot white burning thing between my lips.

[SARGE]

So, according to The News (tm), factory-made cigarettes are better for you than roll-yer-owns (http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/2566567/Factory-ciggies-better-than-rollies-study).

I suppose that research might be interesting if you smoke a lot of cigarettes and are looking to minimise damage, although to my mind, that approach is, well, stupid, given that both of the above are probably going to kill you real good if you're smoking one every hour of every day.

No, you might as well smoke what you like in that case, and rollies are cheaper.

Personally, I smoke tobacco once every week or two. Sometimes in a pipe, sometimes in a cigarette, very occasionally a cigar (although I can't really afford to smoke cigars these days).

But I've never met a factory-made cigarette I really liked; hand-rolled Port Royal cigarettes, on the other hand, I find quite delightful as a richly flavoured nicotine chaser to an evening's drinking.

And I've observed that a majority of the KB smoking fraternity seem to incline towards hand-rolled cigarettes, too. I'm not sure if it's for reasons of cost, or simply because the tobacco is nicer.

So, what is it, smokers? Tailormades, or rollies? What's your poison, and for what reason?

And, as an aside, how on earth does one manage to get addicted to smoking cigarettes? I can't imagine the sheer hard work that you must have to put in to get past the 'yuck' barrier to the point where you're smoking the things throughout every day.

Is there anyone who didn't smoke as a youngster, but took it up as an adult, and then increased their consumption to 'Daily Smoker (tm)' levels? Personally, after a few years of occasional tobacco use, I can't imagine doing that.

Or are all the surviving Daily Smokers (tm) people who were peer-pressured through the 'yuck barrier' into becoming addicted while still young and vulnerable?

Your comments please, ladies and gentlemen.



MEH .ive been smoking Marlboro Red for 35 years ( although i DID have a stint where i smoked Lucky Strike and Camel) .. i still smoke cigars regularly and dont want to quit any of them.. ican get through a pack of 25 in a day easy

fuck death and the lung cancer he rode in on

[Mr Merde]

Smoking is detrimental to ones health. As such i prefer not to partake. Although each to their own, i do hope that you dont need my taxes to pay for your lung transplant or whatever.
Yeah, my parents smoke. Bastards!

Seriously, how do you afford it though? A pack a day or what ever, thats an expensive habit.


Government cant afford people to stop smoking.

Dont know the figures for NZ but in the UK it was calculated that the government makes enough tax from smokers to build a new hospital in every county and staff it , every year. As smokers statistically lived a shorter lifespan that meant those who didnt smoke had the benifit of a free hospitasl.

Personal taxes would have to go up as the government wouldnt take a cut in their revenue

[Usarka]

Is there anyone who didn't smoke as a youngster, but took it up as an adult, and then increased their consumption to 'Daily Smoker (tm)' levels? Personally, after a few years of occasional tobacco use, I can't imagine doing that.


Mixing hash with bacco to make a juicy tasty spliff has got a few people hooked......

[martybabe]

I hated smokes as a yoof but took up smoking a pipe one very cold winter on picket duty ,stood around a brazier freezing my arse off for weeks on end.

I loved smoking a pipe but later moved on to roll ups for the convenience then onto factory made, where I have been stuck, on and off ,for 30 years.

I did get tremendous pleasure from fiddling with and smoking my pipes but looking back now,starting smoking was the single most stupid thing I ever did. I spit phlegumly sp in the general direction of all addictions, they's bastard things to control for the weak willed like myself.:no:

[skidMark]

Port royal black... limited edition at moment... BUY THEM.

[jrandom]

Port royal black... limited edition at moment... BUY THEM.

Yes, one of the guys at work had some of that a couple of Friday nights ago. Tried one. Was nice, but I still prefer the original Port Royal.

[jrandom]

looking back now,starting smoking was the single most stupid thing I ever did.

Best you stop then, eh?

:msn-wink:

[ManDownUnder]

So, what is it, smokers? Tailormades, or rollies? What's your poison, and for what reason?

Don't care - which ever is least harmful to those of us innocently sharing the pollution... ideally none of course. Tax the fuckers out of existence.


And, as an aside, how on earth does one manage to get addicted to smoking cigarettes? I can't imagine the sheer hard work that you must have to put in to get past the 'yuck' barrier to the point where you're smoking the things throughout every day.


Right with you on that one - totally mystifies me too

[jrandom]

Don't care - which ever is least harmful to those of us innocently sharing the pollution... ideally none of course. Tax the fuckers out of existence.

Good man, like your style. Bought that bicycle yet, or are you still burning dinosaur juice every time you leave your driveway?

[ManDownUnder]

Good man, like your style. Bought that bicycle yet, or are you still burning dinosaur juice every time you leave your driveway?

The treadly's gettign more use than the VTR at the mo but the treadly is just an old one. Don't be foled by my question while back about the slick-as-snot derailer thingy.

Working from home now - you know where I am... come and distract me at some point.

[skidMark]

Right with you on that one - totally mystifies me too


It is very hard to understand until you are hooked on them as to how you can get hooked

I spose its like people who hate motorbikes... until they ride one...

for most people they have to keep riding...

thats the best i can explain it, rubbish i know.

[Mully]

I spose its like people who hate motorbikes... until they ride one...

for most people they have to keep riding...


Gonna have to disagree with you there, Skiddy.

Riding motorcycles (if you have the desire), is immediately gratifying and enjoyable (until you fall off).

Smoking cigarettes, when you aren't used to it, is foul and generally makes people physically ill.

Random's point (yes, he does have one occasionally) is that you have to go through the horrible bit to get to the part where you enjoy smoking (and are therefore addicted.

If, for example, you wanted to ride a bike, and as soon as you touched one, you were in physical pain everytime for the first, say, 50 times, you wouldn't ride a bike (and therefore experience the good times).

Personally, I think Peer Pressure has a lot to answer for.

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thats the best i can explain it, rubbish i know.

What else would we expect.

[Finn]

You guys should try smokeless tobacco. Swedish Snus is the best. Think about it... you can get your tobacco fix anywhere, anytime and its totally legal. In a restaurant, theater, airplane, even during sex. And its much better for you. In fact its so harmless the even the extremely meddling socialist Swedish Governemnt were forced to remove health warnings because it was scientifically proven.

They also taste really nice. I've never smoked (apart from cigars on occasion) but I did Snus for a while during my time in Sweden and for a while back here.

[jrandom]

Smoking cigarettes, when you aren't used to it, is foul and generally makes people physically ill.

Important corollary: Except When You're Pissed.

[jrandom]

You guys should try smokeless tobacco. Swedish Snus is the best.

Do you know of anywhere in NZ that retails it?

[Madness]

Do you know of anywhere in NZ that retails it?

It's illegal to sell those products in New Zealand currently, AFAIK.

[jrandom]

It's illegal to sell those products in New Zealand currently, AFAIK.

What? I shall protest! Can one import one's own?

[Madness]

What? I shall protest! Can one import one's own?

Not sure. You'd best not piss about though. The Framework Convention of Tobacco Control is currently meeting overseas to discuss implementing further anti-tobacco measures, including the banning of Internet sales for all Tobacco products.

[jrandom]

Not sure. You'd best not piss about though.

Well, righto then.

Google is, as always, my friend.

http://www.snusexpress.com/

http://www.customs.govt.nz/travellers/Arriving+in+New+Zealand/Allowances/Alcohol+and+Tobacco.htm

Presumably those Customs regulations also apply to importing things by mail or courier.

[toebug]

MMMmmmm cigarettes! I would love one thanks!

4 weeks clean for me, hopefully I'll make it this time, rollies were my poison.

[Mully]

Presumably those Customs regulations also apply to importing things by mail or courier.

I'm going to go ahead and save you some drama by telling you they don't.

This bit's the clue:
The goods accompany them through the Customs arrival process

And 10 good years of my life doing this.

[jrandom]

I'm going to go ahead and save you some drama by telling you they don't.

Sigh. Yes, my next step was going to be "ask Mully".

So how do I import tobacco products by mail, then?

[duckonin]

Rather put the money into my tank to burn and smoke up a few extra k's..

[Mully]

So how do I import tobacco products by mail, then?

With great difficulty.

If you insist it needs to be imported as effectively a commercial shipment. Generally, if the amount (Duty, GST & Excise) is under $50, Customs aren't bothered. However, with booze and fags, they get all excited (if they had tails, they'd be wagging).

I can assist if you really want to import some. Get some numbers together and I'll work out a cost to cross the border so you can decide if it's prohibitive.

Oh, and I believe chewing tobacco and snuff type product is prohibited, but I'll check for sure tomorrow.

[jrandom]

I can assist if you really want to import some. Get some numbers together and I'll work out a cost to cross the border so you can decide if it's prohibitive.

Oh, and I believe chewing tobacco and snuff type product is prohibited, but I'll check for sure tomorrow.

Ta!

:sunny:

[Creeping Death]

I smoke Bridgestones and old ladies in Honda City's.;)

[SARGE]

What? I shall protest! Can one import one's own?

nope .. i had a few cans of Copenhagen in my luggage coming back from the States.. Customs got them


lucky i had 2 in my backpack :Oops:

[Finn]

Do you know of anywhere in NZ that retails it?

The current law makes it illegal to sell them in NZ but there is some noise on the subject. However, you can legally import them for personal use.

www.swedishsnus.com

I can highly recommend the General brand but make sure you get the mini portion (General Mini 10gr). These are normally the "girls" ones as they are smaller. I find the big ones way to large. Get a roll of 10 and that avoids duty and gst and gets delivered to you doorstep in under 2 weeks.

Get some and pop over. I'll show you how to use them properly.

P.S. Don't put them up your butt. :pinch:

[SixPackBack]

.............

P.S. Don't put them up your butt. :pinch:

Sounds like Finn has a story to tell?:crazy: