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brads
9th July 2009, 17:34
Not set in stone yet
16-17 January Ruapuna
23-24 January Teretonga
30-1st Jan/Feb Levels
No north island dates up yet,go to kiwiracer for updates

Wingnut
9th July 2009, 17:42
Not set in stone yet
16-17 January Ruapuna
23-24 January Teretonga
30-1st Jan/Feb Levels
No north island dates up yet,go to kiwiracer for updates

Any room in the van for me??????????????:angry2:

CHOPPA
9th July 2009, 19:46
Not set in stone yet
16-17 January Ruapuna
23-24 January Teretonga
30-1st Jan/Feb Levels
No north island dates up yet,go to kiwiracer for updates

Looks ok

16-17 January Ruapuna
20-21 January Teretonga
23-24 Jan/Feb Levels

Would be better, teretonga doesnt get many spectators so mid week wouldnt be bad

Whitebait
9th July 2009, 19:52
YEEEEEESSSSSSS

Us minor league boys would love that.

Thankfully I sold my van on Tuesday and I'm gonna bike EVERYWHERE trying to get in shape.

Good work MNZ if they're the dates :2thumbsup

ajturbo
9th July 2009, 20:11
i think one good reason there are NO north Island dates....

it costs too much and i am SURE the Vic club wont be part of it next year

NOTE: this is MY thoughts only NOT of the vic club...

racer40
9th July 2009, 20:44
i thought we were only doing 2 rounds down south, i heard timaru was not on. midweek at invers sounds good choppa

brads
9th July 2009, 21:06
i thought we were only doing 2 rounds down south, i heard timaru was not on.

Who knows,remember these are not finalised yet,they may change.

speedracerjimmy
9th July 2009, 22:21
north island are pukekohe 12-13th dec and manfield 14-15th feb

CHOPPA
9th July 2009, 22:29
north island are pukekohe 12-13th dec and manfield 14-15th feb

combine tri series, street races and nats thats a heap of racing!

CTD
9th July 2009, 22:50
i thought we were only doing 2 rounds down south, i heard timaru was not on.

wha? there has been fantastic racing at levels over the past 2 years when Ive been there. That would be a great shame.

Tony.OK
9th July 2009, 23:03
Looks ok

16-17 January Ruapuna
20-21 January Teretonga
23-24 Jan/Feb Levels

Would be better, teretonga doesnt get many spectators so mid week wouldnt be bad


north island are pukekohe 12-13th dec and manfield 14-15th feb

So the southerners are expected to make 2 seperate trips over the channel?

That doesn't make sense at all...............................and going from last year that'd near make the Puke round the same weekend as the Manfeild Tri Series rnd 1......:crazy:

Edit:

Just had a looksee at MNZ and found they have posted dates since I was on there this morning..........

Provisional dates:



Dec 12/13 - Pukekohe Park Raceway - Rnd 1 NZ Champs.

Dec 19 - Manfeild Park - Rnd 1 Tri Series.

Dec 26 - Boxing Day, Wanganui - Rnd 2 Tri Series.

Dec 27/28 - Taupo Raceway - Rnd 3 Tri Series.

Jan 17/18 - Ruapuna, Christchurch - Rnd 2 NZ Champs.

Jan 24/25 - Teretonga, Invercargill - Rnd 3 NZ Champs.

Jan 31/Feb 1 - Levels Raceway, Timaru - Rnd 4 NZ Champs.

Feb 14/15 - Manfeild Park - Rnd 5 NZ Champs.

ziepfenj
10th July 2009, 01:25
Dang. That first provisional round killed my traveling plans.

Rcktfsh
10th July 2009, 08:14
Interesting to see the different levels of competence being shown between the organisers of the tri series and the nats. Tri series organisers 5 months out have overseas riders booked, entries flowing in, press releases being released etc.....MNZ has some provisional dates, wonder which one will be more successful?

k14
10th July 2009, 08:53
north island are pukekohe 12-13th dec and manfield 14-15th feb
What a pain in the arse that is. I was considering not doing the full nats next season and that probably seals it. No way am I paying for two ferries in 3 months. Might just do SI and give Manfeild a miss too.

kittytamer
10th July 2009, 08:57
Provisional dates:



Dec 12/13 - Pukekohe Park Raceway - Rnd 1 NZ Champs.

Dec 19 - Manfeild Park - Rnd 1 Tri Series.

Dec 26 - Boxing Day, Wanganui - Rnd 2 Tri Series.

Dec 27/28 - Taupo Raceway - Rnd 3 Tri Series.

Jan 17/18 - Ruapuna, Christchurch - Rnd 2 NZ Champs.

Jan 24/25 - Teretonga, Invercargill - Rnd 3 NZ Champs.

Jan 31/Feb 1 - Levels Raceway, Timaru - Rnd 4 NZ Champs.

Feb 14/15 - Manfeild Park - Rnd 5 NZ Champs.

Interesting.... Pukekohe is now the first round, this weekend was traditionaly a club round with the Nationals & the TT in March.
Guess we have to wait till the following season to have a go at Hampton Downs...

Shaun P
10th July 2009, 11:02
So the southerners are expected to make 2 seperate trips over the channel?

That doesn't make sense at all...............................and going from last year that'd near make the Puke round the same weekend as the Manfeild Tri Series rnd 1......:crazy:

Edit:

Just had a looksee at MNZ and found they have posted dates since I was on there this morning..........

Provisional dates:



Dec 12/13 - Pukekohe Park Raceway - Rnd 1 NZ Champs.

Dec 19 - Manfeild Park - Rnd 1 Tri Series.

Dec 26 - Boxing Day, Wanganui - Rnd 2 Tri Series.

Dec 27/28 - Taupo Raceway - Rnd 3 Tri Series.

Jan 17/18 - Ruapuna, Christchurch - Rnd 2 NZ Champs.

Jan 24/25 - Teretonga, Invercargill - Rnd 3 NZ Champs.

Jan 31/Feb 1 - Levels Raceway, Timaru - Rnd 4 NZ Champs.

Feb 14/15 - Manfeild Park - Rnd 5 NZ Champs.

Including Paeroa as well, that is a hell of a lot of racing, bitter sweet I guess for most! :drool:

k14
10th July 2009, 11:37
So the southerners are expected to make 2 seperate trips over the channel?

That doesn't make sense at all...............................and going from last year that'd near make the Puke round the same weekend as the Manfeild Tri Series rnd 1......:crazy:


Feb 14/15 - Manfeild Park - Rnd 5 NZ Champs.
I hope they are provisional, those dates are a sunday and monday. Gee can't MNZ even look at a 2010 calendar?

The format brings up a very valid reason for allowing a competitor to drop his/her worst race/2 races or even meeting. I can 100% say I won't be going to pukekohe for the first round. Paying the best part of $1500k in ferry and travel expenses along with 3 days travel to race on the most boring and unsafe track in the country doesn't really do it for me. I wouldn't be surprised if there are other southerners that have the same opinion.

oyster
10th July 2009, 14:09
In the last few years it's "this is the last at Puke". I hate the place, it's far too dangerous. In the last three years I've attended there have been 3 fatalities. This year, none, a pleasant relief. But who can escape the realities of Sam Smith's and Avalon Biddle's crashes. They had seriously horrific possibilities with the armco taking a pretty scary bite out of both of them.
No one, especially our up and coming youth, should be forced to race a championship on such an unsafe circuit.

racer40
10th July 2009, 14:36
i thought if there was to be 2 NI rounds they were to be together for the southeners, also what happened to Hampton Downs ?

Shaun S
10th July 2009, 14:39
i thought if there was to be 2 NI rounds they were to be together for the southeners, also what happened to Hampton Downs ?Yup so did I, and fuck knows!

CHOPPA
10th July 2009, 15:13
What a pain in the arse that is. I was considering not doing the full nats next season and that probably seals it. No way am I paying for two ferries in 3 months. Might just do SI and give Manfeild a miss too.

2 trips is better then 3 weeks off work

scrivy
10th July 2009, 15:49
What a pain in the arse that is. I was considering not doing the full nats next season and that probably seals it. No way am I paying for two ferries in 3 months. Might just do SI and give Manfeild a miss too.

Pay for 1 ferry and do the Tri-series !!!!! Meet lots of great people, and have a f'n ball!! :first::clap:

brads
10th July 2009, 15:52
i thought if there was to be 2 NI rounds they were to be together for the southeners, also what happened to Hampton Downs ?

Is the track going to be ready by december???

ajturbo
10th July 2009, 16:24
Interesting to see the different levels of competence being shown between the organisers of the tri series and the nats. Tri series organisers 5 months out have overseas riders booked, entries flowing in, press releases being released etc.....MNZ has some provisional dates, wonder which one will be more successful?
and i wonder who is going to organize the north Island ones....

Rcktfsh
10th July 2009, 18:01
Kiwi Racer website has posted that the MNZ press release dates are incorrect and are yet to be confirmed.

Robert Taylor
10th July 2009, 18:29
Interesting to see the different levels of competence being shown between the organisers of the tri series and the nats. Tri series organisers 5 months out have overseas riders booked, entries flowing in, press releases being released etc.....MNZ has some provisional dates, wonder which one will be more successful?

Little wonder that Suzuki have put money into the Tri Series. That is no reflection on the new regime at MNZ, there is some fixing to do and the new guys have certainly inherited a poisoned chalice.
With so much racing compressed into 3 months racers will be making decisions on where they will be racing and what the relative costs of getting to and fro will be. Its going to get interesting, if a MNZ National champs goes ahead it may well be a Claytons championship.

Robert Taylor
10th July 2009, 18:33
In the last few years it's "this is the last at Puke". I hate the place, it's far too dangerous. In the last three years I've attended there have been 3 fatalities. This year, none, a pleasant relief. But who can escape the realities of Sam Smith's and Avalon Biddle's crashes. They had seriously horrific possibilities with the armco taking a pretty scary bite out of both of them.
No one, especially our up and coming youth, should be forced to race a championship on such an unsafe circuit.

I hear what you are saying and I helped fix Sams bike, he was VERY lucky. The same argument though prevails for the street racing. I dread the day that a Superbike ( or any bike ) launches itself, goes through the chicken wire and ''sweeps'' a section of crowd. That will likely end street racing here in NZ.

diesel pig
10th July 2009, 18:33
if a MNZ National champs goes ahead it may well be a Claytons championship.

Ok you got me what do you mean by Claytons championship?

Robert Taylor
10th July 2009, 18:40
i thought if there was to be 2 NI rounds they were to be together for the southeners, also what happened to Hampton Downs ?

There is also another logistical issue, there is a lot of car racing going on at that time of the year. There are so many classes that they divide into ''Tier 1'' and ''Tier 2'', run as seperate meetings on seperate weekends.
Track owners probably earn a whole load more revenue and ticket sales from the car guys, it is therefore a reasonable assumption that they get first call re the dates.

Robert Taylor
10th July 2009, 18:43
Ok you got me what do you mean by Claytons championship?

Some of the normal distributor backed teams not showing up, for starters.
For instance if Robbie Bugden, Andrew Stroud, Craig Shirriffs and Hayden Fitzgerald didnt show the remaining distributor backed rider would be having a pretty hollow victory celebration.
It could yet happen.

racer40
10th July 2009, 20:28
yeah i get what your saying robert, with cars getting first choice, but why do our national meetings have to be around the same time, i feel sorry for the southeners & see some of them doing the tri series instead

Kickaha
10th July 2009, 20:44
combine tri series, street races and nats thats a heap of racing!

It's to much racing in to short a time, club racers are more likely to support the Tri series/street races and not do local National rounds


So the southerners are expected to make 2 seperate trips over the channel?

We've been shafted with that for a few years now, with NI rounds being two weeks apart


2 trips is better then 3 weeks off work

You don't need three weeks off if you're organised enough and prepared to travel home between rounds, if you book flights far enough ahead it probably works out cheaper than staying down here


but why do our national meetings have to be around the same time

There is no reason they need to be, run one Islands rounds in November and the other Island in February or March, instead of Dec/Jan which for a lot of businesses is the busiest time of year and hardest to get time off

Robert Taylor
10th July 2009, 20:53
Has it also occured to many that lots of people ( many who also race motorcycles and work with them ) would actually also like a holiday at that time of year?
With the very attractive choice offered by the Tri Series something is going to give. And with SNZ putting money into that series its a very clear signal that they have had a gutsful of MNZ. I sincerely wish Jim well in mending what has been broken.

k14
10th July 2009, 22:06
2 trips is better then 3 weeks off work
No its not. I would much rather take 2 and a bit weeks off than have to drive the 1500km+ round trip twice. At least last year you could leave your van/bike up there and fly between rounds. Now that there are other rounds in between you are forced to take two trips. I am sure if the SI rounds were split with a NI round in between it would be a different story!!

steveyb
10th July 2009, 22:07
All dates for NZSBK 2010 are provisional.
South Is dates will be more likely to be well set than any, but all still need final confirmation.
I know that Southland Club and Canterbury are well underway with organisation.

BUT THERE IS NO AUCKLAND DATE YET!!! So don't go getting all hot and bothered.
Hampton Downs will be well ready to use by January/February (go to the website and see the pictures of progress), but it is up to a club/promotor to book it and organise it. Hamilton Motorcycle Club anyone???

As things stand at the moment, it is unlikely that VMCC will run a meeting at Manfeild, but this might change as time progresses or someone convinces them otherwise!!

dubshack
13th July 2009, 11:02
Hampton Downs have been talking with MNZ for early 2010 and dates have been penciled in. They obviously need to finalise details.

oyster
13th July 2009, 11:41
Use the eraser on the other end of the pencil and get rid of Puke......