How do I get on here?

[kevfromcoro]

About 6 months ago my missus moved out. and i had to pay her a lot of money. < as it happens>.. i work away a lot so i rented the house out.
Young fella, seamed ok.and his GF. we got on well.. anyway i went to OZ to get a job but it didnt happen.so i came back and moved into the sleepout downstairs. he said it was ok .so that was 2 weeks ago.. now he has moved out. and taking me to court. because i was on the property illegally.he owes me $500 in rent. and the power has been cut off. because he hasnt paid the bill.. the place is in a mess..... and the land agents arent helping a lot.
seems to be all for the tenant..
any advice..................................
KEV

[oldrider]

About 6 months ago my missus moved out. and i had to pay her a lot of money. < as it happens>.. i work away a lot so i rented the house out.
Young fella, seamed ok.and his GF. we got on well.. anyway i went to OZ to get a job but it didnt happen.so i came back and moved into the sleepout downstairs. he said it was ok .so that was 2 weeks ago.. now he has moved out. and taking me to court. because i was on the property illegally.he owes me $500 in rent. and the power has been cut off. because he hasnt paid the bill.. the place is in a mess..... and the land agents arent helping a lot.
seems to be all for the tenant..
any advice..................................
KEV

Sorry, got no advice but hang in there, things will get better! :yes: Good luck.

[Deano]

About 6 months ago my missus moved out. and i had to pay her a lot of money. < as it happens>.. i work away a lot so i rented the house out.
Young fella, seamed ok.and his GF. we got on well.. anyway i went to OZ to get a job but it didnt happen.so i came back and moved into the sleepout downstairs. he said it was ok .so that was 2 weeks ago.. now he has moved out. and taking me to court. because i was on the property illegally.he owes me $500 in rent. and the power has been cut off. because he hasnt paid the bill.. the place is in a mess..... and the land agents arent helping a lot.
seems to be all for the tenant..
any advice..................................
KEV

Did your rent agreement give you access to the sleepout ?


Did your tenants agree to have you move into the sleepout ?

If yes to either and you can prove it, you should be sweet.

[YellowDog]

Doesn't sound good Kev.

You need to get the present position confirmed so that all parties know and understand what the other parties are claiming.

If you cannot reposess now, you can certaily apply to get a resposession order on the grounds that the tenant has vacated withiout paying rent and bills.

Get advice from a contract lawyer however it is usually as first come first serve situation.

Unless there is a bond/deposit to take, I suspect you will have to write off monies owed and put it down to experience.

Good luck.

[Mom]

More info required. What was the arrangement, who signed the agreement, was there an agreement? Tenancy law is fairly black and white. PM me if you like.

[kevfromcoro]

Did your rent agreement give you access to the sleepout ?


Did your tenants agree to have you move into the sleepout ?

If yes to either and you can prove it, you should be sweet.

nah.. its a verball......
Btw thanks oldrider for coment.

[Deano]

nah.. its a verball......
Btw thanks oldrider for coment.

Thats sucks. If you got on ok before and they agreed to you moving back it sounds like they are just using an excuse to get out of some bills.

[Argyle]

Do sound like a real Bastard! A verbal agreement is just as good as a written one!

[junkmanjoe]

mate, we had a verball agrement with great freinds.
to rent to own a house...everything was going great....couple years later, they sold the house we had nothing to stand on and it ended up costing us $18,000. all down the shiter... we not freinds any more, i made sure we signed the paper next time we brought a house...... young and silly...

[kevfromcoro]

Tanks for advice. guys......
mom will pm you in the morning.

got a headache.

[Deano]

got a headache.

Go punch some holes in the walls, then raise that at the tribunal hearing.

I doubt they have thought of it and could relieve some stress.

I can delete this post within a few minutes if you like.

[hayd3n]

you can still take em to baycorp
know where they moved too?

[klingon]

..... and the land agents arent helping a lot.
...


Sorry to hear about your troubles, Kev. It's all very stressful and disappointing when this kind of thing happens with people you thought you could trust.

I just wanted to explore the bit I have highlighted above - the land agents. Did you use an agent to find the tenants originally? Or were the agents managing the property while you were in Oz? Either way, they might have some responsibility here and it might be worth persuading them to pull their weight.

Meanwhile, talk to Mom. She's a sensible woman and I'm sure she will have some valuable advice. Chin up.

[Solly]

Go punch some holes in the walls, then raise that at the tribunal hearing.

I doubt they have thought of it and could relieve some stress.

I can delete this post within a few minutes if you like.

:nono::nono:Silly idea.....I know what you're saying, but think about it.......they may very well have photos.......if they do, what then????

[Deano]

:nono::nono:Silly idea.....I know what you're saying, but think about it.......they may very well have photos.......if they do, what then????

Thats why I said I doubt they have thought of it........doh: rolleyes:.

Maybe ask them first, then go to town ? FTW

[smoky]

you should ring 0800 83 62 62 for free advice

But basically my advice is to deal with the issue of the tenancy separately, what was your agreement, document what they owe you, photograph the mess and document it, make sure you document and photograph the damage as well, then send him a letter asking for the money, and apply to the tribunal for rent owing and damages

If you were down stairs and had a verbal agreement to be there - then that's a separate issue, and he still had no right to vacate without giving notice, and no right to leave the place in a mess.
But you say he's taking you to court? did he ask you to leave?

[Mom]

Seems this is a muddy one really. Still all is not lost, we will just get to the bottom of what the agreement was, who signed it and then get stuck in sorting it. Tenants can not simply say "see you", they can not stop paying rent either. They can however complain about a landlord staying on the property, unless it was agreed it was ok. They can not leave a property in a mess, with damage, they get to pay to remedy.

In case any of you are wondering, I used to manage property for a living for years, owned a couple of my own rentals for 20 odd years too. Happy to point people in the right direction regarding tenancy issues.

[Elysium]

Didn't the last govenment introduce a bill that gave the land lords more power? And also cant bad tenants be put on sort of "bad person" list that land lords can look up?