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Ivan
12th July 2009, 16:01
Hey I have noticed alot of people lately are wearign skins to racing and was wondering does anyone know of a good cheap compression clothing im after a long sleeve shirt mainly and I hear these work wonders with your muscles in your body
Gwinch
12th July 2009, 16:05
They also assist with heat and sweat regulation. A long sleeve shirt from the Skins brand will set you back about $160 or so from Rebel Sport, pants are $140 or so too.
Disco Dan
12th July 2009, 16:13
They are actually for running and cycling etc - they work by reducing the amount lactic acid build up in your muscles (the stuff that makes your muscles hurt during exercise).
Hardly worth it to ride a motorbike. :blink:
I wear a set when I run and it works wonders, you can buy it online or from sports shops. "Skins" brand is best. I run 5km every single day as well as working out at the gym all week so I know it works.
marty
12th July 2009, 16:32
I've got a really nice pair of Asics running pants - they're $89 at Rebel. Keep an eye out though, as often Skins are way cheap - my son uses them at BMX and daughter at rowing and netball, and I've always bought them on special
CHOPPA
12th July 2009, 16:57
They are actually for running and cycling etc - they work by reducing the amount lactic acid build up in your muscles (the stuff that makes your muscles hurt during exercise).
Hardly worth it to ride a motorbike. :blink:
I wear a set when I run and it works wonders, you can buy it online or from sports shops. "Skins" brand is best. I run 5km every single day as well as working out at the gym all week so I know it works.
Racing and riding are not even close, try racing a superbike for 25 mins.... I have skins, they keep you nice and cool and it lets you move around inside your leathers much easier as well
scracha
13th July 2009, 08:47
Hardly worth it to ride a motorbike. :blink:
Try doing 15 laps at race pace Dan :spanking:
Rebel sports sometimes do nice discounts and you can get the tops and bottoms for about 60 bucks each.
Maido
13th July 2009, 09:12
The Reebok ones are a bit cheaper but you get what you pay for.
I have done research and have found that BSC (body Science, I got Hayden Fitz onto these and he loves them!) are the best brand by far, they have more panels, and are better designed to give a better fit. Skins are ok also but not as good.
However I would be more inclined to wear skins under leathers, mainly cos they aren't quite as "compressiony" (<-- not a word but you get what I mean).
Compression gear is designed for recovery, it is tight and stimulates blood flow through the muscles to help with recovery. They aren't really designed for use during exercise, how ever they do help with distributing heat whcih is obviously a benefit. There is specific clothing designed for use during exercise.
It is obviously going to be find something that works for you, or that is in your price range.
I believe any extra clothing under leathers is going to make you hot regardless of what it is. I wear a undersuit made of the same material as the liner in my leathers, this allows the leathers to slide over you body without sticking, it is light and perferated so it weighs nothing, much like what the Moto and wsbk men wear.
CHOPPA
13th July 2009, 11:14
Sounds gross but because the skins remove the moisture away from your skin they get slightly wet and any breeze cools you down straight away and keeps you cool for a while like an evaporative cooling unit and then when its cold they keep you warm
Sparky Bills
13th July 2009, 13:25
I use Skinz too. But have been having a look around at different brands.
There are a few different models out there and all claim to work the best.
They all work pretty good from what ive seen.
I dont think there are any "cheap" options out there. If you want them to work, go for a proven brand.
Just save a little longer and get the good stuff.
glice
13th July 2009, 14:44
They are actually for running and cycling etc - they work by reducing the amount lactic acid build up in your muscles (the stuff that makes your muscles hurt during exercise).
Hardly worth it to ride a motorbike. :blink:
I wear a set when I run and it works wonders, you can buy it online or from sports shops. "Skins" brand is best. I run 5km every single day as well as working out at the gym all week so I know it works.
No they are actually for all sports. And lactic acid is not what makes you muscles hurt, it is a combination of things that cause discompfort.
They aid in vascular return, which means your heart and muscles dont have to work as hard, which in turn gives a lower heart rate while performing the activity, so they are benificial during exercise aswell as recovery.
Disco Dan
13th July 2009, 14:47
No they are actually for all sports. And lactic acid is not what makes you muscles hurt, it is a combination of things that cause discompfort.
They aid in vascular return, which means your heart and muscles dont have to work as hard, which in turn gives a lower heart rate while performing the activity, so they are benificial during exercise aswell as recovery.
oh, fair shake of the sauce bottle... :Punk:
Bit like those silly nostril breathing aids, a bit of a fashion fad? Performance is not improved by wearing a compression suit (apart from ultra endurance running events where fluid pooling / swelling in the lower legs can be an issue).
Instead, use them to speed recovery after 100k hammer sessions on the bicycle, or 20k runs with hill repeats - so you can train hard again the next day. And you wont need gimick aids to get you through 10 minute motorbike races.
Tony.OK
13th July 2009, 18:29
Bit like those silly nostril breathing aids, a bit of a fashion fad? Performance is not improved by wearing a compression suit (apart from ultra endurance running events where fluid pooling / swelling in the lower legs can be an issue).
Instead, use them to speed recovery after 100k hammer sessions on the bicycle, or 20k runs with hill repeats - so you can train hard again the next day. And you wont need gimick aids to get you through 10 minute motorbike races.
The main reason i bought a cheap set was to make it easier to get my leathers off when hot. Having said that though I haven't had any issues with arm pump since wearing the top, prob a coincidence but at least they hold in the flabby bits:innocent:
scracha
13th July 2009, 22:07
And you wont need gimick aids to get you through 10 minute motorbike races.
To be honest, I always struggle just doing day to day stuff what with the heat in this country in summer. Add leathers, a helmet, a hot engine and a good workout around the track then I end up cooking. They're definitely not a gimmick as my body temperature is a lot lower after a race wearing them.
AllanB
13th July 2009, 22:22
Compression gear is designed for recovery, it is tight and stimulates blood flow through the muscles to help with recovery.
Ah - so I should be buying my undies a size smaller then? :sunny:
Ivan
15th July 2009, 10:49
Im not into fashion gimmicks its just my mates who play rugby swear by them and and I have recently noticed alot of people in racing wearing them so I was asking to get some advice I think I will buy a set I have seen some good deals on trademe for good known brands.
My biggest problem with my arms is I had a broken elbow and torn tendons and during a race it causes my arm to swell and weaken and was keen on trying something tighter fitter to see if it will prevent this from happening
malcy25
16th July 2009, 19:03
Bicycling Australia magazine, May - June Issue pg 93 re Compression wear "Australian Researchers have looked at this question and studied the effects of lower body compressions garments during a one hour cycling time trial. The result : wearing compression garments while training demonstrated limited physological benefits and did not improve performance during a cycling time trial"
Don't bother flaming me, I'm just quoting what I read for info
MGST
16th July 2009, 23:54
To be honest, I always struggle just doing day to day stuff what with the heat in this country in summer.
Jeez mate are you for real? PM me your address and I'll get a cement truck around there pronto for ya.
scracha
18th July 2009, 06:54
Jeez mate are you for real? PM me your address and I'll get a cement truck around there pronto for ya.
I recall last year being sat pissing sweat next to some shivering Aussie tourist going "she's a nice country mate but jeezus she's cold"
Nicksta
18th July 2009, 12:11
Im not into fashion gimmicks its just my mates who play rugby swear by them and and I have recently noticed alot of people in racing wearing them so I was asking to get some advice I think I will buy a set I have seen some good deals on trademe for good known brands.
My biggest problem with my arms is I had a broken elbow and torn tendons and during a race it causes my arm to swell and weaken and was keen on trying something tighter fitter to see if it will prevent this from happening
hey Ivan,
I believe i may be guilty of bringing this to the fore some what.... I wear "Under Armour" its from the states, I have been wearing it for 3 years now and swear by it. Under Armour is designed to compress your muscles (not that you feel it) and keep them at the correct temperature while "exercising" it regulates in a way that it strips away excess heat and sweat and also keeps you warm if cold so your muscles operate at an optimum temperature. I used to race and come in sweating like crazy and hot as anything. I dont feel sweat now and can ride the 10th lap like the first and dont "overheat" like i used to. I believe it keeps me fresh, I dont get any muscle ache/pump or anything using it and it has the added silky benefit of your leathers falling off when you want them off. Like Choppa said it also helps me move on the bike as the leathers dont stick when your hot. It is technology that has been around in america for a while now and just cottoning on to the rest of the world. I swear by my "Under Armour" i cannot vouch for other brands and what they do but the research/theory is there if you check our under armour.
just my opinion. i believe you can buy it here from stirling sports.
cheers
scracha
18th July 2009, 18:19
hot as anything. I dont feel sweat now and can ride the 10th lap like the first and dont "overheat" like i used to. I believe it keeps me fresh, I dont get any muscle ache/pump or anything using it and it has the added silky
Another bonus is that I can have a right good perv when she's getting in and out her leathers.
gatch
18th July 2009, 18:32
I think if you are struggling with energy for a few 10 lap races in one day, you need some fuckin exercise rather than a band-aid fix like compression suits.
steveyb
18th July 2009, 18:37
I think if you are struggling with energy for a few 10 lap races in one day, you need some fuckin exercise rather than a band-aid fix like compression suits.
Here, f'kn here!!!
Kickaha
19th July 2009, 08:05
I dont feel sweat now and can ride the 10th lap like the first and dont "overheat" like i used to. I believe it keeps me fresh, I dont get any muscle ache/pump or anything using it and it has the added silky benefit of your leathers falling off when you want them off.
cheers
I found leading up to the National season a whole lot of time on the MTB sorted that out, cept for the leathers falling off bit
A compression suit sounds much easier though :lol:
I think if you are struggling with energy for a few 10 lap races in one day, you need some fuckin exercise rather than a band-aid fix like compression suits.
agreed, but every little edge you can give yourself helps
MGST
20th July 2009, 20:01
I recall last year being sat pissing sweat next to some shivering Aussie tourist going "she's a nice country mate but jeezus she's cold"
It's all good mate. I'm a Kiwi, only been in "the west island" for 9 months, so I know what the weather is like in NZ. But yeah it is cold after the warmth of the Pilbara, a nice mild 45-50 in summer, with a light sea breeze if you're in Karratha. The boys sink a few after work....:apint:
scracha
20th July 2009, 20:12
I think if you are struggling with energy for a few 10 lap races in one day, you need some fuckin exercise rather than a band-aid fix like compression suits.
It's a "heat" dissapation thing, not energy. An some bikes require a lot more moving around than others.
glice
20th July 2009, 21:08
It's a "heat" dissapation thing, not energy. An some bikes require a lot more moving around than others.
One of the functions of a muscle is heat dissapation, so a more efficent muscle will be better at controlling heat. So being fitter will help.
gatch
20th July 2009, 21:46
One of the functions of a muscle is heat dissapation, so a more efficent muscle will be better at controlling heat. So being fitter will help.
Yup, nice one this man.
I guess its a personal thing if you want to wear them or not, but seriously ALL racers WILL benefit MORE from at least basic exercise, spend the same coin you would on one of those suits on some comfy shoes and go for a run, do some pull ups in a tree, some press ups, far far far better.
Ivan
21st July 2009, 12:24
Yup, nice one this man.
I guess its a personal thing if you want to wear them or not, but seriously ALL racers WILL benefit MORE from at least basic exercise, spend the same coin you would on one of those suits on some comfy shoes and go for a run, do some pull ups in a tree, some press ups, far far far better.
I think being fit and using these is going to help even more.
Im trying some of the Puma Skins pants this weekend at Manfield
Teambwr47
24th July 2009, 18:59
I used to ride 6 and 8hr endurance races in the UK series and the compression clothing certainly seemed to help with the long sessions at race pace.
In the 6 hr our max ride time in one session per rider (3 man team) was 67 minutes but in the 8hr it was 90 mins.
Through the 90 mins at race pace i used to get cramp in my legs at some point but found that stopped with the compression clothing?
90 minutes in 85c temps on a superbike at Snettterton certainly tests your fitness......:yes:
scracha
24th July 2009, 19:08
90 minutes in 85c temps on a superbike at Snettterton certainly tests your fitness......:yes:
Couldn't you get a few minutes sleep and a stretch on Snet's long straights?
Ivan
26th July 2009, 14:51
Im definatly getting some I used my Flatemates Puma Compression leggings and wore a normal tee shirt on top
I came in sweating on the top and the legs were a cool temperature and I wore them until I got home and my muscles in my legs didnt feel tired like normal
And good on you for trying it out for yourself instead of relying on all the "experts" that gave you advice to the contrary.
Ivan
26th July 2009, 17:09
And good on you for trying it out for yourself instead of relying on all the "experts" that gave you advice to the contrary.
there were quite a few people who use the stuff on here who had alot of good things to say.
I think if you can be fit and also use something like this to help keep you cool and get sweat away from the body then so be it.
Plus the GP boys are using Skins now and they are ultra fit
trumpy
26th July 2009, 18:44
How much a pressure suit will effect you (if at all) will vary from person to person but for what it's worth this has been my experience:
I have been dealing with CFS for a number of years now and as a normal course of events, two hours on my mountainbike takes a minimum of four days to recover (if I have pushed too hard then up to six) and three to four hours on my Speedy Four will usually see me arriving home quite sore and recovery will take at least a couple of days.
A few weeks ago I bought the Canterbury version of the compression suit (long sleeve top and full length pants - $149 each from Stirling Sports). Having been off the mountain bike for nearly three months I was expecting a tough time first ride up. While I certainly had lost some of the little fitness I had, the ride was much better than I thought and the recovery substantially shorter (only a couple of days). I need to do some longer rides to see how they effect endurance.
Did not go for a motorbike ride yesterday, despite the great weather, as it had been a long week, including driving from Taupo to New Plymouth and then to Christchurch and back and I felt pretty sore and tired, too much so to feel safe on my bike. Went for a three hour blast today around a route I do quite often. Wore my compression suit under my leathers (don't rely on these to keep you warm!) and had the best ride ever and arrived home sans any kind of pain, apart from my osteoarthritic hip (see what happens when you get old...) but that's another deal altogether.
All hardly conclusive proof of anything but certainly seems to be heading in the right direction...
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