Fat bastards sign in

[mynameis]

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/5720589/nz-ranks-poorly-in-obesity-stats/

"Green Party Health spokeswoman Sue Kedgley said the report highlighted the "stupidity" of the Government cutting funding for nutrition programmes and scrapping regulations banning junk food in school cafeterias."

"It's alarming that <?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = YGG /><YGG:ENTITY id=t5 ref="#WH7btmgY3RG1aCOGXWfsEA">New Zealand</YGG:ENTITY> has the third highest obesity rate and what's even more alarming is that the Government is doing nothing about it."

"The Government needed to "take its head out of the sand" because preventing illness would save money in the long term, Ms Kedgley said."




Sooo0o0oo is the gubmint of the day to be blamed or just yourselves or something else?

[kiwifruit]

just yourselves

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[sidecar bob]

I took a look around me at the foodcourt at Bayfair mall on the weekend. All the fat spotty people were eating Mc Donalds & similar crap. All the fit healthy looking people were eating Sushi & Indian, the Labour Govt's interference didnt change anything at all, apart from making us vote against them for trying to be our mum.

[Mr Merde]

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/5720589/nz-ranks-poorly-in-obesity-stats/

"Green Party Health spokeswoman Sue Kedgley said the report highlighted the "stupidity" of the Government cutting funding for nutrition programmes and scrapping regulations banning junk food in school cafeterias."

"It's alarming that <?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = YGG /><YGG:ENTITY id=t5 ref="#WH7btmgY3RG1aCOGXWfsEA">New Zealand</YGG:ENTITY> has the third highest obesity rate and what's even more alarming is that the Government is doing nothing about it."

"The Government needed to "take its head out of the sand" because preventing illness would save money in the long term, Ms Kedgley said."




Sooo0o0oo is the gubmint of the day to be blamed or just yourselves or something else?


Its obvious that those members of the Green Party are searching for someone to blame for them being the fat bastards they are.

Just look at Sue Bradford that stalwart of Greenism, if her arse gets any wider they are going to have to alter the doors in Parliament to get he hips through them.

So now it is the governments fault they are fat.

I wonder who they are going to be able to blame for their moustaches and other extraneous areas of hair.

Who are they going to find responsible for them all being "Fucking Ugly Bitches".

Its not their fault obviously 'cos they are the font of all that is good for us.

[u4ea]

check out KFC and maccers on a DPB/dole day......those people arent going to change their kids habits just because healthy food is available in schools.

[Mr Merde]

check out KFC and maccers on a DPB/dole day......those people arent going to change their kids habits just because healthy food is available in schools.


Not when a Big Mac or KFC is cheaper than a loaf of bread and a bottle of milk.

So how many of you remember milk at school.

[u4ea]

Not when a Big Mac or KFC is cheaper than a loaf of bread and a bottle of milk.

So how many of you remember milk at school.

A loaf of bread and bottle of milk will feed a lot more than one person tho

[Mr Merde]

A loaf of bread and bottle of milk will feed a lot more than one person tho

You and I may realise this but you have to educate the masses.

Its easier to throw the kid a $10 note and tell them to go to one of these food places, than to get off one's arse and actually prepare something. Which brings us to another point. Its all very well talking about other foods but who is going to cook\prepare them. The majority of persons seem to have forgotten or never have been taught how to cook.

[Pwalo]

Get a grip people. You know the drill. Another lurid claim by a newspaper that's jumped on by the SIGs.

I don't see any explanation of what stats support this claim, how they were gathered, etc. I'd call it a load of shite at the moment.

[SpankMe]

Don't worry, Swine flu is going to take care of all the fattys.

http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601202&sid=aM.7Dg3Z_msI

[Finn]

Don't worry, Swine flu is going to take care of all the fattys.

http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601202&sid=aM.7Dg3Z_msI

In a cruel twist or irony, swine flu takes out all the piggies.

[slofox]

So how many of you remember milk at school.

I do.
I remember when it was 4d a pint too...

[Mr Merde]

Don't worry, Swine flu is going to take care of all the fattys.

http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601202&sid=aM.7Dg3Z_msI

So there's no hope for me.

[Katman]

I do.
I remember when it was 4d a pint too...

I must still be young. I can only remember back to when it was 4 cents a pint.

[R6_kid]

Obese, based on what? BMI? I've been obese since I was 12 according to that shit. At the age of 17 I was well and truely over the 'healthy weight' for my age... however I was running 6km in under 26min, could do a 2km Ergometer Rowing Test in 6min 28sec and was trialling for the NZ Rowing Junior World Cup team.

I'd say that these days (5 years later) im not exactly what people call 'fat' but I know im overweight. I've got a bit of puku but I'm not gaining weight, I just need to get out and exercise a bit more.

What would happen if the deported all the Islanders back home and re-did the survey? I'd say that NZ would be a fair bit lighter.

[wickle]

A loaf of bread and bottle of milk will feed a lot more than one person tho
add some sultana's and y've got a nice pudding, and our school milk was always warm,yuk

[Paulo]

Yeah BMI's not the best indicator of healthy weight, But it is a fact there's a lot more obese people around these days. I go swimming and notice that when the school groups come in about 70% of the kids are frikken huge, when i was at school there may have been one or two kids this size in a class of 30 and now it's the accepted norm. At the end of the day it's up to parents to cook healthy options and get of their arse and actually engage with their kids take em to the park kick a ball around . Not just hand them money for take-aways and let them blob in front of the TV or computer. I dont care really except my taxes will be wasted on treating teenagers with type 2 diabeties and increasing heart problems and a whole swag of medical issues that are easily avoided.

[slofox]

Yeah BMI's not the best indicator of healthy weight, But it is a fact there's a lot more obese people around these days. I go swimming and notice that when the school groups come in about 70% of the kids are frikken huge, when i was at school there may have been one or two kids this size in a class of 30 and now it's the accepted norm. At the end of the day it's up to parents to cook healthy options and get of their arse and actually engage with their kids take em to the park kick a ball around . Not just hand them money for take-aways and let them blob in front of the TV or computer. I dont care really except my taxes will be wasted on treating teenagers with type 2 diabeties and increasing heart problems and a whole swag of medical issues that are easily avoided.

And not drive them to and from school every day either. Compare traffic in and out of school holidays to see how much of that goes on. And stop wrapping the kids in cotton wool and sticking them in glass cases all the time. Let 'em get out and roam around a bit instead of keeping them home in case some bogeyman gets them...
There was a good doco on RNZ recently about some mother who let her 12 yr old son get home on his own from the library or summat in New York or some large amerikan city...the whole world heard about that one...it was considered anything from insane to hugely brave...FFS I rode a bike to school when I was FIVE and didn't come to too much harm...(the kid I ran over with it on the footpath one day did though...)

[Paulo]

Yeah and when i was late for school mum would say "You's better run then" and so I would , No being driven in the SUV with a DVD playing on the little screen in the back.

[Hitcher]

The Green Party anti-fun, regulate the shit out of all sources of human pleasure police will be having wet dreams at the legislation they can foist on us under the pretext of protecting us from ourselves. Enjoy your fillet steak and blue cheese dressing while ye may.

[Dave Lobster]

There's only one reason for being fat.

The hole it goes in being bigger than the whole it goes out of.

Fucking simple..

[98tls]

There's only one reason for being fat.

The hole it goes in being bigger than the whole it goes out of.

Fucking simple.. :rofl::rofl:Lovin it,:wari:We have this thing at work with arms bigger than my thighs,never stops feeding,never.Its all pimped out with rings on every finger,chains round its bigger than my waist neck:mellow:Walks into town for exercise but whilst doing so purchases 3 of everything on offer at Maccas.I have nothing but respect for her husband,guess he figures she must keel over sometime,that or just pop.

[mynameis]

Its obvious that those members of the Green Party are searching for someone to blame for them being the fat bastards they are.

Just look at Sue Bradford that stalwart of Greenism, if her arse gets any wider they are going to have to alter the doors in Parliament to get he hips through them.

So now it is the governments fault they are fat.

I wonder who they are going to be able to blame for their moustaches and other extraneous areas of hair.

Who are they going to find responsible for them all being "Fucking Ugly Bitches".

Its not their fault obviously 'cos they are the font of all that is good for us.

Must spread rep :lol:


You and I may realise this but you have to educate the masses.

Its easier to throw the kid a $10 note and tell them to go to one of these food places, than to get off one's arse and actually prepare something. Which brings us to another point. Its all very well talking about other foods but who is going to cook\prepare them. The majority of persons seem to have forgotten or never have been taught how to cook.

Lost art init?


Get a grip people. You know the drill. Another lurid claim by a newspaper that's jumped on by the SIGs.

I don't see any explanation of what stats support this claim, how they were gathered, etc. I'd call it a load of shite at the moment.

Saw another report today apparently it's costing the tax payers $900 mil a year treating fatties.

[mynameis]

Don't worry, Swine flu is going to take care of all the fattys.

http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601202&sid=aM.7Dg3Z_msI


In a cruel twist or irony, swine flu takes out all the piggies.

Morbidly Obese, I love that term :lol:

Good way to get rid of them aye ;)

[Genestho]

I'm quite happy with my son's school. It regulates where the parents quite obviously can't (or can't be arsed).

If you buy the kids lunch, on the menu are rolls and sammi's, at worst a muffin, no fizzy (YAY) milk drinks only!

Bit better than my day, where it was a pie and donut for lunch!

We are asked not to pack fizzy drinks, only juice or water. And no packaged foods! (chips, muesli bars etc)

As a parent, kids only eat what's in the cupboards, for goodness sakes, leave out the chips, bickies and fizzy, processed foods, and replace with ie; (ungodly inhale!) Sammi's, fruit, cheese, yogurt, crackers! If you don't buy it, it doesn't get eaten right?

It's imperitive that kids get good nutrition for behaviour purposes, as well as lifestyle choices. Kids that eat badly usually have low energy or have spiked energy which peaks and falls, you can see it!

Treats are ok now and then of course :shifty:

[Fatt Max]

It's all bollocks really,

Us fat people are keeping the economy going, justifying the existance for at least 5 otherwise worthless government departments and spearheading the 'Bring Back Goergie Pie' campaign.

Plus, any skinny person I have ever met is either sad or on the way to sadness.

I like being a fat bastard, never done anyone any harm. I work for a living, have my health and walk a 21km half marathon every month. I train in aikido 2-3 sessions a week and the rest of the time I'm writing books and recording music. It's a great life.

As for the 'nocturnal activities', all is well in that dept. I may have only a 3" willy, but there is 120kg to push it in with...

So, FUCK OFF skinny sad politicians

[mynameis]

As a parent, kids only eat what's in the cupboards, for goodness sakes, leave out the chips, bickies and fizzy, processed foods, and replace with ie; (ungodly inhale!) Sammi's, fruit, cheese, yogurt, crackers! If you don't buy it, it doesn't get eaten right?



+1


It's all bollocks really,

Us fat people are keeping the economy going, justifying the existance for at least 5 otherwise worthless government departments and spearheading the 'Bring Back Goergie Pie' campaign.

Plus, any skinny person I have ever met is either sad or on the way to sadness.

I like being a fat bastard, never done anyone any harm. I work for a living, have my health and walk a 21km half marathon every month. I train in aikido 2-3 sessions a week and the rest of the time I'm writing books and recording music. It's a great life.

As for the 'nocturnal activities', all is well in that dept. I may have only a 3" willy, but there is 120kg to push it in with...

So, FUCK OFF skinny sad politicians

:hug: :love:

[wbks]

It's all bollocks really,

Us fat people are keeping the economy going, justifying the existance for at least 5 otherwise worthless government departments and spearheading the 'Bring Back Goergie Pie' campaign.

Plus, any skinny person I have ever met is either sad or on the way to sadness.

I like being a fat bastard, never done anyone any harm. I work for a living, have my health and walk a 21km half marathon every month. I train in aikido 2-3 sessions a week and the rest of the time I'm writing books and recording music. It's a great life.

As for the 'nocturnal activities', all is well in that dept. I may have only a 3" willy, but there is 120kg to push it in with...

So, FUCK OFF skinny sad politiciansDid you just post that you have a 3 inch penis on the internet?:shit: Fat pride and all that, but dude...

[Fatt Max]

Did you just post that you have a 3 inch penis on the internet?:shit: Fat pride and all that, but dude...

Yes I did. It's a wee willy winkie but thats the way it is, like it or hump it as they say....

[Slyer]

Personal responsibility.
No?

What the fuck there to educate about anyway? If you want to get fatter eat more shit. If you want to get thinner, eat less pies and coke and exercise once in a while, it's that simple.

The thing is, it's all about choice. People are choosing to be fat and that's A-OK with me. Do whatever the hell you want with your own bodies, you deserve the right. Choosing for people is a big no-no.
Also, I deserve the right to laugh at your lard ass. You also deserve the right to knock me out and/or sit on me till I take it back.

Freedom rules.

[wbks]

Yes I did. It's a wee willy winkie but thats the way it is, like it or hump it as they say....Fair enough! Maybe you could include that life example in one of your children's books? I bet it would help a few of the kids later in life with the gym shower blues:wari:

[PirateJafa]

If you want to get fatter eat more shit.

I've been trying for years.

Just doesn't seem to work. :(

[Squiggles]

I love pies, only what i really want is a yummy ham and egg sandwich... BUT WHERE HAS ALL THE HAM GONE??!! :crybaby:

[Slyer]

I've been trying for years.

Just doesn't seem to work. :(
You don't realise how much shit these people actually eat.
You might eat crap for a day but other days just whatever and sometimes nothing for the whole day.
I'm talking 5 pies and 3 bottles of coke per day on top of all 7 of the other meals with fish and chips. ;)

Amateur.

[woodybee]

Why should the government waste money on trying to educate fatties, surely self discipline is the best deterrant for getting to be a fat bastard. Its a waste of money, my body tells me when I have eaten enought,k I don't ahve to clear a plate jsut cause its sitting there, over eating is a pure sign of low self esteem. Join a club of some sort preferably a group sport that involves swinging the limbs a little quicker that normal.. Social engagement with fitness is a winner all the time, that way you can eat wht you want after wards without feeling bad about it.

Healthy thinnking mind = healthy body..............my god NZ has so much to get out there and see,, either by walking it, running it tramping it, breathing it, riding it, I cant see what there are so many fatties over here.:angry:

This is from a Briwi who can't get enough of what NZ has to offer outdoors, you guys don't know you are born.:mellow:

Kiwi's listen in.......look after your bodies all by yourselves.....its not f..king hard for gods sake.

Here endeth the lesson.

Woodybee x

[woodybee]

and if there are any fat kids, get off your arse, let go of that computer game, and go and walk in that beautiful outdoors. Parents of fat kids you ought to be ashamed of yourselves, exercise some imagination in the kitchen and go out walking with your fat kids, lead by example.......otherwise, you will coat your poor heart in so much shit it will be unable to perform the perfect job its there for to beat purely, and you'll drop dead as you don't care for your heart, so why the hell shoudl it care for you.................

:wari:

[idb]

Yes I did. It's a wee willy winkie but thats the way it is, like it or hump it as they say....

Mine is just the right size to make me happy...

[mynameis]

Personal responsibility.
No?

What the fuck there to educate about anyway? If you want to get fatter eat more shit. If you want to get thinner, eat less pies and coke and exercise once in a while, it's that simple.



On the surface yes I agree with you, but if it was that simple why do we have such high rates, you can't call all of them "dumb and stupid". And that everything is in their control. I am sure there are obese people in all works of life, from lazy doll bulging bums to doctors, lawyers, professors ect..




The thing is, it's all about choice. People are choosing to be fat and that's A-OK with me. Do whatever the hell you want with your own bodies, you deserve the right. Choosing for people is a big no-no.
Also, I deserve the right to laugh at your lard ass. You also deserve the right to knock me out and/or sit on me till I take it back.

Freedom rules.



It is about choice but unfortunately according to media it's costing the tax payers $900 mil a year to treat these people, you don't have a choice with your tax payer money do you? They shove their faces and create problems you fix their problems.? Right?

Obese fat people usually have low energy levels and find doing physical things hard, I doubt they can knock some fit guy out.



You don't realise how much shit these people actually eat.
You might eat crap for a day but other days just whatever and sometimes nothing for the whole day.
I'm talking 5 pies and 3 bottles of coke per day on top of all 7 of the other meals with fish and chips. ;)

Amateur.

[u4ea]

Why should the government waste money on trying to educate fatties, surely self discipline is the best deterrant for getting to be a fat bastard. Its a waste of money, my body tells me when I have eaten enought,k I don't ahve to clear a plate jsut cause its sitting there, over eating is a pure sign of low self esteem. Join a club of some sort preferably a group sport that involves swinging the limbs a little quicker that normal.. Social engagement with fitness is a winner all the time, that way you can eat wht you want after wards without feeling bad about it.

Healthy thinnking mind = healthy body..............my god NZ has so much to get out there and see,, either by walking it, running it tramping it, breathing it, riding it, I cant see what there are so many fatties over here.:angry:

This is from a Briwi who can't get enough of what NZ has to offer outdoors, you guys don't know you are born.:mellow:

Kiwi's listen in.......look after your bodies all by yourselves.....its not f..king hard for gods sake.

Here endeth the lesson.

Woodybee x

Maybe you could take your passionate ideals to the where all the Islanders live in NZ.........Im a natural born kiwi and think you are over generalising. I certainly DO know we have a gorgeous country and hell I even trained to defend it..

[Slyer]

That's exactly right, we shouldn't have to pay for their health complications caused by being obese, unless they don't have a choice due to a disease or bad genes etc...

[Finn]

Shouldn't it be called Brobesity?

[slofox]

I may have only a 3" willy, but there is 120kg to push it in with...



Fuck, Max, I didn't need to visualise that!! :rofl:


People are choosing to be fat and that's A-OK with me.

Not with me. I don't want to have to pay for the health costs involved. I have enough trouble covering my own health costs...(like buying motorbikes and petrol to run 'em so I stay "mentally stable"...:crazy:)

[Slyer]

Not with me. I don't want to have to pay for the health costs involved. I have enough trouble covering my own health costs...(like buying motorbikes and petrol to run 'em so I stay "mentally stable"...:crazy:)
Fair point, read my lower post.

[slofox]

Fair point, read my lower post.

Whoops - my bad. Gotcha now...

[Str8 Jacket]

I have noticed that there alot of MORBIDLY obese people joining my gym lately and they are actually reguarly attending and working out. These are people of all age's and ethnicities!

[Slyer]

I have noticed that there alot of MORBIDLY obese people joining my gym lately and they are actually reguarly attending and working out. These are people of all age's and ethnicities!
Give them lots of encouragement. :)

[MIXONE]

Did you just post that you have a 3 inch penis on the internet?:shit: Fat pride and all that, but dude...


Yes I did. It's a wee willy winkie but thats the way it is, like it or hump it as they say....

You only need 3 inches.
One inch going in,one inch going out and one inch going in and out.:innocent:

[Str8 Jacket]

Give them lots of encouragement. :)

Hell yeah, I do!! Just the other day a work colleague told me how gross it was that all these OBESE people have started coming to the gym. I was flabbergasted, stupid bitch!! :thud:

[Phurrball]

Good argument so far, and a few hints of looking at the bigger picture.

Personal responsibility is all good - however, in recent times there are other forces at work on the other end of the see-saw...

Problems: Too much readily available, energy dense - nutrient-poor food.

Too little physical activity.

Is this ALL down to personal responsibility?

No one so far has mentioned the role of the marketers in all this, or the expense of fruit and veg (the latter has been hinted at)

Go back 20 years* - there were not the sheer numbers of fast-food outlets EVERYWHERE. There were not the range of prepackaged shit on the shelves at the supermarket. People could and did cook and eat together. There were not the extensive range of sedentary entertainment - computer and console games, DVDs etc.

In terms of fast/pre-packaged processed food and sedentary entertainment products - these are hammered 24/7 by marketers.

20 odd years ago marketers were only just starting to wake up to the idea of product placement (Reeces pieces in ET was an accidental success). Now it's in all forms of media - weather brought to you by 'X', article in association with 'Y'; 'Z' drinks this in electronic game...

There are a lot of foods that are touted as being 'just fine' by infotainment - those "eating well" segments selling food for the kids' lunches; the Sarah Ulmers of the world fronting McDonalds. The "99% fat free" products (never mind the carbs). So many things we are 'told' are just fine, but are not.

Too few people go past the claims on the front of the package saying that the food is 'fine' to the nutrition info panel in tiny print on the back, failing to realise that marketers are never going to give you good info on what to eat (duh! They SELL things)

Advertising targeting kids to nag their parents during childrens' TV? These factors are EVERYWHERE if you open your eyes to them. Not that long ago I had an ad stuck on the lid of my takeaway coffee. 20 years ago the marketing machine was not so sophisticated and was not striving to influence 'free choice' and 'personal responsibility'

I think this is what the Green Party is getting at more so than saying it's not about personal responsibility - trying to counter the marketing machine that DOESN'T CARE whether the food we eat is healthy.

Sure, 20 years ago there were pies, donuts and fizzy. And maccas. But they were not everywhere, and they were not PUSHED by the marketers through an omnipresent electronic media.

As to the latter point - I'm well enough educated in science to have a ready grasp of the whys and wherefores of good nutrition; I can cook well and I'm vegetarian. Unfortunately I am also rather poor at present. I find it difficult to eat all the fruits and veg I'd like. It's farking expensive to eat a varied diet of quality produce...

Personal responsibility in the age of marketing is more of an uphill battle that it once was...

Don't get me wrong: Personal responsibility is still THE critical factor, just a little harder to exercise in the mire of availability and 'market-speak'

(*20 years is an arbitrary figure on my part as I can remember it a little)

[Slyer]

Government subsidised veges and gyms?
Who's with me?

Veges are expensive...

[Phurrball]

Government subsidised veges and gyms?
Who's with me?

Veges are expensive...

Not that daft, as it would significantly reduce downstream health costs borne by the state (ie us, the taxpayer)

I try and stick with cheap seasonal/on special/short dated veg. Sometimes veg in cans are a good buy. Sadly we lack a freezer...

Cheap vege rides sounds good - strap on the tail-pack and head into the rural areas around Auckland on vege buying trips. An excuse to ride AND cheap veg!!! Yay!

[rosie631]

Government subsidised veges and gyms?
Who's with me?

Veges are expensive...

Or at least remove the fuckin GST from fruit and veg.

[Hitcher]

Or at least remove the fuckin GST from fruit and veg.

Why? 10 chars...

[Dave Lobster]

Government subsidised veges and gyms?


No.. because when the government subsidise things, it's for minorities. AND, more importantly, for the poor.

If you've pulled your finger out of your arse, and aren't a habitual parasite, you'll get fuck all subsidised.

[Genestho]

No.. because when the government subsidise things, it's for minorities. AND, more importantly, for the poor.

If you've pulled your finger out of your arse, and aren't a habitual parasite, you'll get fuck all subsidised.

Er, why not grow your own veges? You don't need a garden! I grow lettuces, tomatoes every year, in pots! Easy!

[Mom]

All I can say is thank goodness I dont have kids going to school right now.

My kids almost never bought lunches, I provided them. They were on the whole reasonably healthy, though I was known for chucking in a treat from time to time. Very rarely they got money to buy something, they wanted pies! Or some other terribly bad for you treat. Guess what? They got it.

I would have been hard to restrain from going postal on the arses of the do good friggen food police that dictate what I can and can't feed my kids.

I can see a time where there will be no "junk food" available at all. What is wrong with it? I dont live anywhere I can buy the regular "fast food" and very rarely buy traditional takeaways. I actually find the odd Maccas a bit of a treat, and really enjoy eating it! Shoot me!

[Dave Lobster]

Er, why not grow your own veges? You don't need a garden! I grow lettuces, tomatoes every year, in pots! Easy!

I do. Chillies and capsicums too :)

[Genestho]

I do. Chillies and capsicums too :)

Ooo I do capsicums too! Yummy, I also have a low pot for the kitchen table, where you can rip baby lettuce leaves off, straight to the plate, yummmmm

[topher]

Not when a Big Mac or KFC is cheaper than a loaf of bread and a bottle of milk.

So how many of you remember milk at school.

Fuck. I do. Fuck.

[mynameis]

Shouldn't it be called Brobesity?

Finn you're the funniest homosexual on the face of this earth

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[mynameis]

Why should the government waste money on trying to educate fatties, surely self discipline is the best deterrant for getting to be a fat bastard.



How else will it be addressed?

Why shouldn't the government?

Educating and making people aware is inarguably one of the best methods of change, surely it also depends on people, basic family units ect ect but there are far too many people who simply don't know better and your post below here says it all about portion control and size of meal.





Its a waste of money, my body tells me when I have eaten enought,k I don't ahve to clear a plate jsut cause its sitting there, over eating is a pure sign of low self esteem.



Common trend here and in many other countries like USA. Meal sizes are betting bigger and bigger, drinks, burgers, meals ect. Companies put a marketing spin on it and people get carried away. Most fatties don't actually know when to stop or if they are full or not. They will eat that extra fires that comes with the meal and stuff themselves till they can't breath, I've seen em at MacD's and BK.




Join a club of some sort preferably a group sport that involves swinging the limbs a little quicker that normal.. Social engagement with fitness is a winner all the time, that way you can eat wht you want after wards without feeling bad about it.



100% agree with you, nothing worse and demotivating than jumping on that same treadmill day in day out with a mundane routine much like a goldfish.




Healthy thinnking mind = healthy body..............my god NZ has so much to get out there and see,, either by walking it, running it tramping it, breathing it, riding it, I cant see what there are so many fatties over here.:angry:

This is from a Briwi who can't get enough of what NZ has to offer outdoors, you guys don't know you are born.:mellow:

Kiwi's listen in.......look after your bodies all by yourselves.....its not f..king hard for gods sake.

Here endeth the lesson.

Woodybee




and if there are any fat kids, get off your arse, let go of that computer game, and go and walk in that beautiful outdoors. Parents of fat kids you ought to be ashamed of yourselves, exercise some imagination in the kitchen and go out walking with your fat kids, lead by example.......otherwise, you will coat your poor heart in so much shit it will be unable to perform the perfect job its there for to beat purely, and you'll drop dead as you don't care for your heart, so why the hell shoudl it care for you.................

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[mynameis]

Good argument so far, and a few hints of looking at the bigger picture.

Personal responsibility is all good - however, in recent times there are other forces at work on the other end of the see-saw...

Problems: Too much readily available, energy dense - nutrient-poor food.

Too little physical activity.

Is this ALL down to personal responsibility?

No one so far has mentioned the role of the marketers in all this, or the expense of fruit and veg (the latter has been hinted at)

Go back 20 years* - there were not the sheer numbers of fast-food outlets EVERYWHERE. There were not the range of prepackaged shit on the shelves at the supermarket. People could and did cook and eat together. There were not the extensive range of sedentary entertainment - computer and console games, DVDs etc.

In terms of fast/pre-packaged processed food and sedentary entertainment products - these are hammered 24/7 by marketers.

20 odd years ago marketers were only just starting to wake up to the idea of product placement (Reeces pieces in ET was an accidental success). Now it's in all forms of media - weather brought to you by 'X', article in association with 'Y'; 'Z' drinks this in electronic game...

There are a lot of foods that are touted as being 'just fine' by infotainment - those "eating well" segments selling food for the kids' lunches; the Sarah Ulmers of the world fronting McDonalds. The "99% fat free" products (never mind the carbs). So many things we are 'told' are just fine, but are not.

Too few people go past the claims on the front of the package saying that the food is 'fine' to the nutrition info panel in tiny print on the back, failing to realise that marketers are never going to give you good info on what to eat (duh! They SELL things)

Advertising targeting kids to nag their parents during childrens' TV? These factors are EVERYWHERE if you open your eyes to them. Not that long ago I had an ad stuck on the lid of my takeaway coffee. 20 years ago the marketing machine was not so sophisticated and was not striving to influence 'free choice' and 'personal responsibility'

I think this is what the Green Party is getting at more so than saying it's not about personal responsibility - trying to counter the marketing machine that DOESN'T CARE whether the food we eat is healthy.

Sure, 20 years ago there were pies, donuts and fizzy. And maccas. But they were not everywhere, and they were not PUSHED by the marketers through an omnipresent electronic media.

As to the latter point - I'm well enough educated in science to have a ready grasp of the whys and wherefores of good nutrition; I can cook well and I'm vegetarian. Unfortunately I am also rather poor at present. I find it difficult to eat all the fruits and veg I'd like. It's farking expensive to eat a varied diet of quality produce...

Personal responsibility in the age of marketing is more of an uphill battle that it once was...

Don't get me wrong: Personal responsibility is still THE critical factor, just a little harder to exercise in the mire of availability and 'market-speak'

(*20 years is an arbitrary figure on my part as I can remember it a little)

+1 Explained properly :)

[Phurrball]

(snippity)
Common trend here and in many other countries like USA. Meal sizes are betting bigger and bigger, drinks, burgers, meals ect. Companies put a marketing spin on it and people get carried away. Most fatties don't actually know when to stop or if they are full or not. They will eat that extra fires that comes with the meal and stuff themselves till they can't breath, I've seen em at MacD's and BK.(snip)

(Apart from those cadbury chocolate bars eh? I'm sure they make up the calorific value with the added palm oil though...)

Oh yes, I forgot about that. Thanks. Must spread rep etc...

Studies have proven that normal people WILL eat more when given a larger serve. The one I recall involved macaroni cheese. Participants could eat as much or as little as they liked. When serving size increased, so did the amount consumed - significantly. I'm sure the participants were chosen with scientific rigour, and weren't biased towards 'fatties' either.

(Could dig out a ref, but can't be arsed. Possibly referred to in Eric Schlosser's book 'Fast Food Nation' a scary and enlightening read)

Mom has the right attitude to takeaways and treats - they ARE fine OCCASIONALLY. Too few do. And I'd hazard a guess that the least informed would be gen X and Yers. (Pure conjecture on my part) It is an attitude that's hard to maintain in the face of unprecedented availability, marketing and the normalising of 'treats' as 'everyday'. Especially if you haven't had the benefit of education/information to counter the marketspeak.

+ 1 on growing veg as TGW suggests. (Though I'm a bit slack) Great way to use old tyres too! Keep those old rears and be reminded of the good times and epic corners as you grow your potatoes in a stack of them!