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bikemike
13th July 2009, 23:48
There's a hole in my rep now, as well as my LHS rocker cover!

Hit black ice this morning about 08:15 on way to work, less than 500 m from home.

Gentle right hander on level, no parked no traffic. Around half way round the wheel track passes over a repair depression and in there was the black ice. Back wheel went left for sure, but I think the front dipped momentarily too. Shortly after the repair, I was highsided and ended up doing superman down the road.

The bike did a half twirl behind me ending up pointing approximately 120 degrees away from intended. Gouged the tar for about 12 inches. Travelled maybe two or three metres after that. I got up about 2 metres from the bike.

I landed on my left side and was rolled onto my front. Gear totally intact. I had a sore neck immediately, lhs shoulder and lh big toe. And pride.

What to learn?

On the ride I was considering heading down the tunnel road since last two weeks I haven't gotten out of town on the bike and wanted to recharge the battery and clean out the engine. I decided against because I suspected it would be icy on that route. Felt quite please with the restraint. BAM. I was aware of the conditions but not enough. I had slowed - usually take that corner at 50, but was about 40 today, in third.

When I lost control I remember thinking shit - when it slipped under, great, I'm going to get it back - when it came upright, then I remember looking up, so I could see where I was sliding. I find it amazing that I had time to be aware of the initial loss of control, and then to be aware as the bike was coming up and 'straightening' up (it wasn't, at that stage I would have been pointing at the rh kerb) and then nothing until after I was thrown, after I landed, after I rolled onto my front.

My hip padding took the blow square on, as did the shoulder. The simple textile abrasion gave me a rash on the hip/waist. When I went down on the side I glanced the helmet (from the damage I can see) but once on my front had no helmet contact. My gloves are intact, my jacket and pants only just show the shine where they took the blow. (Belstaff and Tecknic). Boots have deep scuff on lh toe - that toe was just healing up from a year long ingrowing treatment!

The toe is agony now, and the hip is also very sore. Neither of these felt bad until much later in the day.

Bike:
rocker cover, centre stand, rear of exhaust (the narrow bit!?) rear grab (givi), seat fabric (where the rear grab/carrier lifted and the rails cut in) both indicator lenses, clear front screen, mirrors, bar ends and so on. I haven't seen the full list but Rodney at Canterbury Rides says over $5700 in parts only!

Ouch. Heard a few more black ice stories of this morning, when I got to work. But that doesn't make it any easier.

I'm glad I was thinking about the conditions, glad I had all the gear on (always do), glad I had slowed down and glad there was no parked vehicles which meant there was no impact other than with the road surface. Thanks to the random individual who stopped and found himself quite surprised to see how easy it is to pick up a GS using the bum into seat technique!

Yes, got on and rode to workshop. Gingerly.

Yes, booked the physio, tomorrow.

Mike

p.dath
13th July 2009, 23:53
Thanks for sharing that great story. For a first crash, sounds like it was nice and gentle. :)

YellowDog
14th July 2009, 06:18
Appreciate the concise write-up.

That's a big bike to go down like that and has dispelled one of my myths about hot big bike tyres being better able to penetrate the slippy stuff.

Hope the soreness eases and Mr Insurance sorts out the damge to your satisfaction.

Take it easy.

bikemike
14th July 2009, 23:46
Some revised numbers and analysis.

I taped it out today and had a better look at what happened, correlating what I see on the bike and the road.

The bike rotated more than 120 degrees. It finished up at that but looks to have been nearer 180 at one point. There was an impact on the kerb and after that rotated from 180 back the way it came to around 120.


Definitely lost traction in or on unloading suspension coming out of the depression (1)
Possibly hit foot or brake at (2) heading well off course. @ Depression + 2.2 Metres.
Either way, highside between (1) and (3) when at just under 90 degrees to course - as I land directly on left hip and shoulder and helmet scored on visor pivot in head-to-toe direction, then rotate onto my front.
Rocker cover strikes at (3) @ loss of control + 8.85 metres. I am likely on the ground. Bike heading almost sideways, I suspect front upper score marks on rocker cover are the first batch. Bike continues to rotate quickly until is sliding almost backwards, now on lower rocker cover
Rack popped out as bike on its upper left flank going backwards, slides on this, rear of rocker, and exhaust before striking kerb at (4) @ rocker strike + 7.7 metres.
Bike bounces and begins rotating back towards initial direction scrubbing out rear of rocker cover in several directions. Finishes at (5) @ kerb + 4.4 metres.


Total distance from loss of control to stop approx 21 metres.
Likely that I slide on my gear down the road for around 6 to 8 metres.

My neck was very sore last night and now diagnosed Whiplash Associated Disorders. Had to use hands to move my own head.

Toaster
14th July 2009, 23:50
Glad you are okay. I wish my first crash was as gentle.

bikemike
14th July 2009, 23:53
Yes, my wife keeps reminding me I'm OK. I'm still feeling disappointed with myself but I'm also beginning to realise I am lucky it was a little one.

Creeping Death
15th July 2009, 00:41
Wow!Can't believe you actually still carried on to work that day!Trooper!One of our blokes had 2 sick days off recently,his excuse?He'd just given up smoking and was suffering withdrawl...most here would milk a dropsie like that for a month!:eek:

howdamnhard
15th July 2009, 00:45
Hope you get yourself and bike mended up soon.

ducatilover
15th July 2009, 00:52
Shit that's a bugger. Hope you get everything fixed/sorted/mended :sunny:

Animal
15th July 2009, 01:03
Bugger! Glad you (and the bike) aren't too badly wounded.

miSTa
15th July 2009, 07:30
Well that sucks. Pleased to hear you're mostly ok. Hope the bike isn't off the road for too long.

Chrislost
15th July 2009, 07:41
Some revised numbers and analysis.

I taped it out today and had a better look at what happened, correlating what I see on the bike and the road.

The bike rotated more than 120 degrees. It finished up at that but looks to have been nearer 180 at one point. There was an impact on the kerb and after that rotated from 180 back the way it came to around 120.


Definitely lost traction in or on unloading suspension coming out of the depression (1)
Possibly hit foot or brake at (2) heading well off course. @ Depression + 2.2 Metres.
Either way, highside between (1) and (3) when at just under 90 degrees to course - as I land directly on left hip and shoulder and helmet scored on visor pivot in head-to-toe direction, then rotate onto my front.
Rocker cover strikes at (3) @ loss of control + 8.85 metres. I am likely on the ground. Bike heading almost sideways, I suspect front upper score marks on rocker cover are the first batch. Bike continues to rotate quickly until is sliding almost backwards, now on lower rocker cover
Rack popped out as bike on its upper left flank going backwards, slides on this, rear of rocker, and exhaust before striking kerb at (4) @ rocker strike + 7.7 metres.
Bike bounces and begins rotating back towards initial direction scrubbing out rear of rocker cover in several directions. Finishes at (5) @ kerb + 4.4 metres.


Total distance from loss of control to stop approx 21 metres.
Likely that I slide on my gear down the road for around 6 to 8 metres.

My neck was very sore last night and now diagnosed Whiplash Associated Disorders. Had to use hands to move my own head.

Sounds like a wild ride!
Aside from the sore neck did you find the experience to be a happy time or a sad time?

The Baron
15th July 2009, 07:43
Sorry to hear about this bikemike. Pleased to hear you walked away.
Get well soon.

Mschvs
15th July 2009, 08:52
Yes, super glad to hear you walked away from this crash, and although people are saying Yay for the gentle crash on your body ... your poor bike!! I'm sorry for your loss ($5700+ dollars!!) BUT, always look on the bright side! It could have been much worse!! Get well soon!

CookMySock
15th July 2009, 08:55
Definitely lost traction in or on unloading suspension coming out of the depression (1)My guess is, there was a little moisture pooled there, that had iced over. Whatever it was, it certainly dropped you on your ass pronto.

Thanks for the info. I just don't ride at below zero temps. :sick:

Steve

batboy
15th July 2009, 09:37
oooohhhh bugger dude!!! i was gonna post up if anyone had a spill on mon with all the ice on the roads, i rode to work too on mon, about 7:30 from rolly to center of town, was the most hair raising experience i have had in a while.....nearly lost it twice just going down the driveway :blink:
The subsequent turn out on the main road with as little gas as possible still resulted in some pretty impressive tail sliding... so i then resorted to motor cross style foot down riding for the roundabouts and gentle curves for the rest of the trip..but i did not come acropper and actually had fun believe it or not!

but dont be too hard on yourself, bikes and ice really dont mix, and its nothing to do with your ability, just pure physics

MotoKuzzi
15th July 2009, 10:05
Wet slick tar is almost as bad up here. Had 2 close calls the last 2 weeks one on the bike and one in the car. Glad your'e ok other than a bit sore, the gear obviously helps.

sondela
15th July 2009, 18:56
Sorry bout your bike, but glad you're ok! hope the neck is better soon..

YellowDog
15th July 2009, 19:20
Yes, my wife keeps reminding me I'm OK. I'm still feeling disappointed with myself but I'm also beginning to realise I am lucky it was a little one.
It's not like you can beat yourself up over how you could/should have rescued it. That was quite a slip.

rosie631
15th July 2009, 19:34
I feel for you. Have been through it recently myself. Good luck with the recovery AND the insurance.

bikemike
23rd July 2009, 21:39
Hmm, soul searching and well-meaning friends confirms my only mistake that day was going out on the ice :-)

Still, injuries are healing up well, it seems, and the bike has been cleared for insurance and am now waiting for four of the bits to come ex-Germany. GoLightly/Vero and Steve the assessor have been great. Just what I'd hope for so far. Should be on the road again in just over two weeks.

rosie631
24th July 2009, 08:46
I am with them. Found them good to deal with. New bike bought and insured with them again.

ready4whatever
24th July 2009, 09:18
black ice for motorcycle = not cool