Chopper the movie

[Dean]

An all time classic movie, best one i have seen, true story, about a Australian notorious criminal, ledgend has it he killed 19 people but was only convicted for one on self defense charges. If you have broadband than i recommend to watch. VIEWERS DISCERTION ADVISED

Part 1
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Part 2
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[Dean]

Part 5
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Part 6
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Part 7
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[Dean]

Part 8
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Part 9
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Part 10
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[Dean]

Final ending
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[wbks]

I was reading an interview with chopper (typical aussie bike mags to interview a guy famous for being a criminal:innocent:) and he said it's pretty much fabrication for the most part. They twisted all of his "stories" and he didn't see a cent for the movie. Just thought I'd add that...

[Dean]

I saw that on in interview with Mark (chopper), i just finished watching it a second time its amazing. Some argue that it was just or right for his killings because he only killed criminals (drug dealers etc).

What do you think of the movie, a rating out of 10.

[PeteMun]

So many great quotes in that movie.. Loved the part where the guy slices choppers ears off :sick:

[Dean]

So many great quotes in that movie.. Loved the part where the guy slices choppers ears off :sick:

"just hack it off ya fairy" :sick: or "im flyin mate im f*&^% flying":laugh:

[wbks]

Haven't read about much of what he did, so I wouldn't know. I haven't even seen an entire episode due to the crappy dialup here.

[Deano]

Try and find some of Chopper's books (not an easy task) - they put the movie to shame.

[wbks]

Try and find some of Chopper's books (not an easy task) - they put the movie to shame.I hope it isn't just some macho "fuckin poof stabs like a shiela" crap?

[Dean]

Haven't read about much of what he did, so I wouldn't know. I haven't even seen an entire episode due to the crappy dialup here.

Pretty much in the first scene he attacks his main rival in prison by getting a knife and stabbing him in the side of the head and neck about 20 times, facing charges he gets someone to cut his ears of to get out on insanity. Than he commits a murder spree working for the police, killing criminals. He doesent know how to read or write but has one of the most succesfull books published on his life.

[Deano]

I hope it isn't just some macho "fuckin poof stabs like a shiela" crap?


Pretty confident it is written in Chopper's own words - mostly anecdotes about past encounters with badarses.

Pretty blunt, brutal and.......well funny, as only Chopper can do funny while he is cutting your toes off.

Possibly or probably a bit of egotistical crap in there as well, but entertaining reading.....and quite brutal....did I mention brutal ?

[Dean]

Try and find some of Chopper's books (not an easy task) - they put the movie to shame.

Hello Deano im Dean who was originally supposed to be called Deano, people refer you to as Dean so im a lost identity because of you:confused: just kidding

Why do you say? i thought the books were more famous than the movie.

[Deano]

Than he commits a murder spree working for the police, killing criminals.

Yeah right, working for the Police......that was his 'story' anyway. :shutup:

His books give a much better insight into how he liked to play the Police...but then you wonder if he was just ad libbing it all along.

[Deano]

Hello Deano im Dean who was originally supposed to be called Deano, people refer you to as Dean so im a lost identity because of you:confused: just kidding

Why do you say? i thought the books were more famous than the movie.

G'day - there can be only one Deano LOL

I thought the books were much more raw and brutal and honest than the movie.

A flatmate had a few of them (I think there was eight altogether).

Never seen any since - never searched too hard either I guess but I don't think they were best sellers so maybe limited publication ?

[wbks]

Sounds like I might need to give it a read. What is it called?

[Deano]

Sounds like I might need to give it a read. What is it called?

Chopper !!!!!! (The story of Mark Brandon Read)...or something or other.

Pretty sure there was eight of them.

[Dean]

G'day - there can be only one Deano LOL

I thought the books were much more raw and brutal and honest than the movie.

A flatmate had a few of them (I think there was eight altogether).

Never seen any since - never searched too hard either I guess but I don't think they were best sellers so maybe limited publication ?

One "o" seperates us on kiwibiker, man from boy lol.

I havent seen ths scene of him cutting of peoples toes, so i guess he went into that in more detail in the book. I was told the movie was %100 fact, i need to get my hands on one of these books. Would be a thrilling read.

[Deano]

Actually - they may not be that hard to come by.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chopper-Mark-Brandon-Read/dp/1904034144

[Weaver]

I bought the first one from these guys.
http://www.mightyape.co.nz/search/?i=2812&s=chopper

[wbks]

It's kind of sad he can get a legendary status off that kind of shit, while someone like Andy McNabb is pretty much unheard of here (I hear some of you opening google right now), but that's a little off topic. Anyway, I doubt they will have it in the library, might have to hit up trademe later haha Edit: Or mighty ape!

[Weaver]

It's kind of sad he can get a legendary status off that kind of shit, while someone like Andy McNabb is pretty much unheard of here (I hear some of you opening google right now), but that's a little off topic. Anyway, I doubt they will have it in the library, might have to hit up trademe later haha Edit: Or mighty ape!

Andy McNabb is my favorite author. Libraries do have his books. The man has written over a dozen of them!

[Dean]

Apparently chopper mixed in with the high profile underground criminals, if you have seen underbelly you will understand. He says he sold his first sawn of shotgun to alfonzo gangitiniao (my apologies if i spelt it wrong)

[wbks]

Andy McNabb is my favorite author. Libraries do have his books. The man has written over a dozen of them!Andy McNabb or Chopper? What are Andy McNabb's books like? I have only read about his books, and seen a few shows involving his commentary of experience etc, but someone told me that he is pretty much out there to "make a buck off the death of his mates" or something like that, and I was pretty surprised that an sas trooper of all soldiers can actually write a book about their experiences that are usually pretty hush hush...

[Genestho]

I have read all Choppers books in Aus, let's just say - he tells a good yarn<_<

They are a good read, but when you read them all, there are discrepancies!

Interesting fella tho, I had coffee next to him in Melbourne, and no I didn't ask for an autograph LOL!

[Weaver]

Andy McNabb has two non-fiction books. Both of which were nearly banned, apparently. The first non-fiction book, Bravo Two Zero, is about a mission gone wrong during the Gulf War. The second non-fiction book, immediate Action is an autobiography.
His fiction books are all written in a similar style to Bravo Two Zero, in which he goes into great detail about things. They are all very realistic too.

[Weaver]

I have read all Choppers books in Aus, let's just say - he tells a good yarn<_<



Chopper says himself that he'd never let the truth get in the way of a good yarn.

Good yarns they are though.

[Dean]

I had coffee next to him in Melbourne, and no I didn't ask for an autograph LOL!

:sweatdrop That would of been an intense coffee break! If you asked him for his autograph who knows what he would of done to you.:no:

[Genestho]

:sweatdrop That would of been an intense coffee break! If you asked him for his autograph who knows what he would of done to you.:no:
Nah mate, he likes good lookin, clean livin ladies:Punk:
I wasn't afraid of him, and in fact he's quite approachable and a funny as bugger, I just didn't want to harrass him! He was being harrassed somewhat as it was in the heyday before the movie came out.

The movie has got nothing on the books!!!!! The scenes in the movie are teeny tiny portions of his life yarns

[Genestho]

Chopper says himself that he'd never let the truth get in the way of a good yarn.

Good yarns they are though.

Absolutely!

[Deano]

Do a search on youtube - Chopper did an advert designed to scare peeps out of crime......pretty good really.

[Genestho]

OH! I recall an interview with a (I think?) Channel nine reporter - a Lady, he was a hard case, and boy did he turn the charm on, I should try to find it! If I do I'll post it!

From what I recall, he was quite a charmer, and had no problems attracting the ladies - strange as it seems!

[Deano]

From what I recall, he was quite a charmer, and had no problems attracting the ladies - strange as it seems!

That's cause a lot of you chicks love bad boys. :mellow:

[Deano]

There is a shit load on you tube - and not just Ronnie the comedian.

Here is the non violence ad...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTYLdU3QxwU

[Weaver]

I really like this interview with him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG90K9Oi4OM&feature=related

[Genestho]

Hehe, well I wasn't going to mention that :whistle:

Here's chops website (http://www.chopperread.com/title.htm)

Actually...add another d to Bad, and they're even better (shameless plug!)

[Dean]

Nah mate, he likes good lookin, clean livin ladies:Punk:


Your making all the other kb women jealous, he could of been checking you out, just kidding.

[Genestho]

Your making all the other kb women jealous, he could of been checking you out, just kidding.

Oh, he was! And I was single back then, but I like dudes with ears, so they turn their selective hearing on and off...yanno? :bleh: PMSL!!!

[Dean]

That's cause a lot of you chicks love bad boys. :mellow:

Women love Bad boys with choppers i hear, note to self dont shave for 2 weeks and grow a chopper and buy a harley. To complete getting laid stage 3, processing please wait.

In all seriousness i wouldnt want to meet chopper in real life, im afraid he doesent like halfcast Maori. He might chase me around my porch saying "come her ya monkey".

[Genestho]

Women love Bad boys with choppers i hear, note to self dont shave for 2 weeks and grow a chopper and buy a harley. To complete getting laid stage 3, processing please wait.

In all seriousness i wouldnt want to meet chopper in real life, im afraid he doesent like halfcast Maori. He might chase me around my porch saying "come her ya monkey".

Oh do they? I wouldn't know....Oh god don't buy a harley! (ouch ready for flaming!)

Yea I don't know, but I think you'd know pretty quickly if he didn't like you, don't think he would have a problem labelling anyone, he's quite happy to call lebanese types wogs...no doubt Alfonse was jovially called a wog once or twice!

From what I got - he seems to communicate well with genuine people, good buggers, and it's nice to see he mostly uses his profile for good now, without making excuses for his past

[Dean]

Oh do they? I wouldn't know....Oh god don't buy a harley! (ouch ready for flaming!)

Yea I don't know, but I think you'd pretty quickly if he didn't like you, don't think he would have a problem labelling anyone, he's quite happy to call lebanese types wogs...no doubt Alfonse was jovially called a wog once or twice!

From what I got - he seems to communicate well with genuine people, good buggers, and it's nice to see he mostly uses his profile for good now, without making excuses for his past

:laugh: I wouldn't buy a Harley, never, naked bikes and maybe a few sport bikes are me.

I agree, when he did the ads on crime, which made significant progress on getting to people wanting to live a life of crime as chopper did to not pursue it. He knows the reality so he can be a good spokesperson, to get the message across. The one word he hates to say is "NEVILLE BARTOS".

[Genestho]

:laugh: I wouldn't buy a Harley, never, naked bikes and maybe a few sport bikes are me.

I agree, when he did the ads on crime, which made significant progress on getting to people wanting to live a life of crime as chopper did to not pursue it. He knows the reality so he can be a good spokesperson, to get the message across. The one word he hates to say is "NEVILLE BARTOS".
LOL @ Neville Bartos!!!! Between that and the Gangwars in Melbourne, I wonder if he's had a significant impact on crime, we'll never know I guess!
He certainly exposed how rough it can get over there!

[Dean]

LOL @ Neville Bartos!!!! Between that and the Gangwars in Melbourne, I wonder if he's had a significant impact on crime, we'll never know I guess!
He certainly exposed how rough it can get over there!

Ever since he released his movie and published all 8 of his books, some Australian youths wanted to live a life of crime as chopper did. They saw the crime life glamourised, followed him, i think the ads may of made some change, hopefully they did.

Imagine if Chopper was on twitter it would be like- 10:46 am, im going over to Neville Bartos's house and if he doesent produce some cash im going to capp him 2:35, I shot Neville Bartos in the kneecap, now hes producing me some cash:laugh:

[Genestho]

Ever since he released his movie and published all 8 of his books, some Australian youths wanted to live a life of crime as chopper did. They saw the crime life glamourised, followed him, i think the ads may of made some change, hopefully they did.

Imagine if Chopper was on twitter it would be like- 10:46 am, im going over to Neville Bartos's house and if he doesent produce some cash im going to capp him 2:35, I shot Neville Bartos in the kneecap, now hes producing me some cash:laugh:
PMSL! He may be on twitter you know! SCARY!!!!!

[Deano]

Women love Bad boys with choppers i hear, note to self dont shave for 2 weeks and grow a chopper and buy a harley. To complete getting laid stage 3, processing please wait.


Wrong sort of Chopper dude......neither the handlebar, nor the HOG......:shutup:

[Deano]

Ever since he released his movie and published all 8 of his books, some Australian youths wanted to live a life of crime as chopper did. They saw the crime life glamourised, followed him, i think the ads may of made some change, hopefully they did.


In one of his books, he did emphasise that it was much safer to read about the underworld, rather than live it.

Let's face it, Chopper didn't give a f*ck about consequences....the law or pain, he didn't seem to be scared of anyone or anything....maybe an act, but a bloody good one. And the humour well......:laugh:

[Dean]

PMSL! He may be on twitter you know! SCARY!!!!!

:shit::shit::shit::no::no: He might be on twitter? oh oh psssst what does pmsl mean

[Deano]

:shit::shit::shit::no::no: He might be on twitter? oh oh psssst what does pmsl mean

Dunno but it has PMS in front so could be badd :innocent:

[Genestho]

:shit::shit::shit::no::no: He might be on twitter? oh oh psssst what does pmsl mean
LOL! P$ssing My Self Laughing! Oh no, not PMS :bleh:

[Genestho]

Dunno but it has PMS in front so could be badd :innocent:
LMAO! I'm roaring!!!!!:Punk: Noiiiiice! (turns green - "you won't like me when I'm angry") Hehe!

[Dean]

Wrong sort of Chopper dude......neither the handlebar, nor the HOG......:shutup:

Dam, i need to make a new plan and new tape recorders and new instructional dvds, i need some advice!

[Dean]

Dunno but it has PMS in front so could be badd :innocent:

PMS? Im a good boy:innocent:

[wbks]

Dam, i need to make a new plan and new tape recorders and new instructional dvds, i need some advice!But you talk like you're such a pimp...

You know I'm only winding you up...

[Genestho]

PMS? Im a good boy:innocent:
hehe, don't be scared, I only 'bite' on KB once a month!!!! PMSL!!!

[Dean]

hehe, don't be scared, I only 'bite' on KB once a month!!!! PMSL!!!

Ok then, i forgive you for this month.

Apparently Chopper is in Tasmania on a farm secluded from mainstream, he must have mega security in his house.

[Genestho]

Ok then, i forgive you for this month.

Apparently Chopper is in Tasmania on a farm secluded from mainstream, he must have mega security in his house.
Yea he's got a gaff out Tasmania last I heard about 10 years ago. He'd need too. Mark this date will you for future reference! LMAO!

[Dean]

But you talk like you're such a pimp...

You know I'm only winding you up...

Yes unfortunate i know i have a collection of how-to-date-biker-chicks dvds to bad they dont work rofl, and cheesy pick up lines:wari:. hehe

I wonder if good ole chopper will help me out in my swag and charm.

[Genestho]

Yes unfortunate i know i have a collection of how-to-date-biker-chicks dvds to bad they dont work rofl, and cheesy pick up lines:wari:. hehe

I wonder if good ole chopper will help me out in my swag and charm.

Dare you to email him, he'd tell you to HTFU!!! LOL

[Dean]

Dare you to email him, he'd tell you to HTFU!!! LOL
I think thats a dare im willing to do, what exact words should i say regarding this.

[sinfull]

Yes unfortunate i know i have a collection of how-to-date-biker-chicks dvds to bad they dont work rofl, and cheesy pick up lines:wari:. hehe

I wonder if good ole chopper will help me out in my swag and charm.
Yes i think it's time you two were introduced !!!

[Dean]

I found Chopper reid on youtube

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rofl lmao good ole chopper!

[wbks]

Yes unfortunate i know i have a collection of how-to-date-biker-chicks dvds to bad they dont work rofl, and cheesy pick up lines:wari:. hehe

I wonder if good ole chopper will help me out in my swag and charm.Have you tried that ride+dinner line yet?:laugh:

[Dean]

Have you tried that ride+dinner line yet?:laugh:

No not yet, you know any possible candidates i can work my magic on? Im thinking of a mentor

I just emailed one of Chopper reids associates to get him to give me advice on women and dating, or make a video on women and dating and what he thinks of biker chicks. I doudt he would but theres always a %1 chance.

[Genestho]

No not yet, you know any possible candidates i can work my magic on? Im thinking of a mentor

I just emailed one of Chopper reids associates to get him to give me advice on women and dating, or make a video on women and dating and what he thinks of biker chicks. I doudt he would but theres always a %1 chance.

Hmm don't think Chop is bike related, he may be affiliated, don't know. But I recon he'd tell you to HTFU, and get into it :bleh: PMSl LMAO

[wbks]

No not yet, you know any possible candidates i can work my magic on? Im thinking of a mentor
Which one?:shutup: I think you should remember that older biker chicks (usually in their late twenties or thirties) also have bfs the same age that have a few years experience over you...

[Dean]

Which one?:shutup: I think you should remember that older biker chicks (usually in their late twenties or thirties) also have bfs the same age that have a few years experience over you...

I know i wasn't going to try my lines on any mentor's :shutup::innocent:
I'm going to make up some new pick up lines, in fact after watching chopper a bit more i have a few already. Now any candidates?

[Deano]

One "o" seperates us on kiwibiker, man from boy lol.
.


Im thinking of a mentor


Thereinlies the O you were looking for...."boy"

LOL

[wbks]

I know i wasn't going to try my lines on any mentor's :shutup::innocent:
I'm going to make up some new pick up lines, in fact after watching chopper a bit more i have a few already. Now any candidates?I think some good advice is: Quit all these cheezy pickup lines, and just talk to some girls. A year of trying lines like that and all you'll end up with is a persona perceived by the girls you know as somewhere between a not so confident Ron Jeremy and the kiddie fiddler on the corner:wari:

[Deano]

I think some good advice is: Quit all these cheezy pickup lines, and just talk to some people. A year of trying lines like that and all you'll end up with is a persona perceived by the girls you know as somewhere between a not so confident Ron Jeremy and the kiddie fiddler on the corner:wari:

Or some Aussie has been !!

(no offence Chopper :innocent:)

[Genestho]

I think some good advice is: Quit all these cheezy pickup lines, and just talk to some girls. A year of trying lines like that and all you'll end up with is a persona perceived by the girls you know as somewhere between a not so confident Ron Jeremy and the kiddie fiddler on the corner:wari:
LOL! fuggetabout the cheezy pickup lines x 2!

[wbks]

Why don't you ask Breed777... That dudes got it sussed when it comes to the ladies

[Dean]

Thereinlies the O you were looking for...."boy"

LOL

:rofl::rofl: nice one i got owned, i accept epic failure, great Deano master.

[Dean]

LOL! fuggetabout the cheezy pickup lines x 2!

Ok then i am forgetting about the cheesy pick up lines lol, but im still sure i can learn from choppers charm. jk

[Deano]

:rofl::rofl: nice one i got owned, i accept epic failure, great Deano master.

I's bin around a bit.....

[Dean]

Some interesting, gory, brutal facts on chopper read when he was a teenager

"He later graduated to kidnapping and torturing members of the criminal underworld, often using a blowtorch or bolt cutters to remove the toes of his victims before killing them"

He was convicted of crimes such as armed robbery, firearm offences, assault and kidnapping, and only spent 13 months outside of prison between ages of 20-38.

[Genestho]

Ok then i am forgetting about the cheesy pick up lines lol, but im still sure i can learn from choppers charm. jk
Well, you have a point between cheesy and choppers charm!! Hehe! (shite, I hope he doesn't read KB!)

[Deano]

He was convicted of crimes such as armed robbery, firearm offences, assault and kidnapping, and only spent 13 months outside of prison between ages of 20-38.

What a waste eh ?

He used a blow torch to remove someone's tattoo as well......a momento for blackmail.....nasty bugger really

[wbks]

Some interesting, gory, brutal facts on chopper read when he was a teenager

"He later graduated to kidnapping and torturing members of the criminal underworld, often using a blowtorch or bolt cutters to remove the toes of his victims before killing them"

He was convicted of crimes such as armed robbery, firearm offences, assault and kidnapping, and only spent 13 months outside of prison between ages of 20-38.Won't want to find to many people like him when you're a cop, aye man?

[Dean]

What a waste eh ?

He used a blow torch to remove someone's tattoo as well......a momento for blackmail.....nasty bugger really

Yea his whole youth/prime lost in prison wasted away, sad.

Removing a tattoo by a blow torch ouch, hes definately crazy, but there is the sense of relief that he didnt commit these brutal crimes on innocent law abiding citizens.

[Dean]

(shite, I hope he doesn't read KB!)

Im scared now:no:, i never talked lowly of him just doing a biography, hopefully i dont get my behind kicked.

[Genestho]

Yea his whole youth/prime lost in prison wasted away, sad.

Removing a tattoo by a blow torch ouch, hes definately crazy, but there is the sense of relief that he didnt commit these brutal crimes on innocent law abiding citizens.
Well, I think that was the thing, he felt justified because these dudes, were bad asses....that's how I read it...weird eh?

[Genestho]

Im scared now:no:, i never talked lowly of him just doing a biography, hopefully i dont get my behind kicked.

ooooo the internet, if he does a google, he'll find this, you're in trouble!! (j/k) HEHEHEHEHE

[Pussy]

you're in trouble!!

I think "extremely deep shit" is the term you're looking for, T.G.W :)

[Genestho]

I think "extremely deep shit" is the term you're looking for, T.G.W :)
ut ohhhh.....I think he'd secretly like it alot though, he might join up!!!

[Deano]

but there is the sense of relief that he didnt commit these brutal crimes on innocent law abiding citizens.

Cause he was a fine upstanding citizen eh ? :rofl:

[Dean]

ooooo the internet, if he does a google, he'll find this, you're in trouble!! (j/k) HEHEHEHEHE

0_o oh oh, the suspense! you meanie, you.

[Genestho]

0_o oh oh, the suspense! you meanie, you.
I think you mean O, O, O! LOL! :baby:

[Dean]

Cause he was a fine upstanding citizen eh ? :rofl:

Chopper is a man of pride, power, a man who wont take directions from nobody, and a man who wont give me a beating for this thread:shutup: maybe.....please

[Genestho]

Chopper is a man of pride, power, a man who wont take directions from nobody, and a man who wont give me a beating for this thread:shutup: maybe.....please

Oh no, I think he might chop your toes off, only if you're respectfull though!!!!

[Deano]

Chopper is a man of pride, power, a man who wont take directions from nobody, and a man who wont give me a beating for this thread:shutup: maybe.....please


See now that is the wrong approach.

Chopper will cut the toes off of any snivelling brown nose. And he must be over 50 by now. :shutup:

[Genestho]

Oh Dean, you've done it now. How is your balance dude? Could it benefit with a trim and tuck of the wee tootsies? LMAO (I love Monty python, bare with my humour!! LMAO)

[Dean]

Oh no, I think he might chop your toes off, only if you're respectfull though!!!!


See now that is the wrong approach.

Chopper will cut the toes off of any snivelling brown nose. And he must be over 50 by now. :shutup:

Not the toes please!! I respect Chopper, does that count? I hope he doesent read this, if he does read this- Hi chopper read :wavey: Deano said he thinks your'e a wuss and he thinks he can beat you up.

[Genestho]

Not the toes please!! I respect Chopper, does that count? I hope he doesent read this, if he does read this- Hi chopper read :wavey: Deano said he thinks your'e a wuss and he thinks he can beat you up.

LOL! at :wavey:!!!!

[wbks]

Didn't someone already say (may have been you) that he would probably just pass you off as a "wog" anyhow? Took me all of 20 mins in Aus to get called a wog, and I'm white!

[Deano]

Deano said he thinks your'e a wuss and he thinks he can beat you up.

Like Chopper has nothing better to do than Google his name, find some obscure dude in NZ to rekindle his jail sentence.

I would'nt mind hearing as few of his yarns over a few coldies though.

[Dean]

Like Chopper has nothing better to do than Google his name, find some obscure dude in NZ to rekindle his jail sentence.

I would'nt mind hearing as few of his yarns over a few coldies though.

LoL say hi to chopper, he has connections who sometimes oversea things about chopper, considering it is a thread on him im sure he would like to read it. To bad you called him a wuss youre in trouble!!

[Genestho]

LoL say hi to chopper, he has connections who sometimes oversea things about chopper, considering it is a thread on him im sure he would like to read it. To bad you called him a wuss youre in trouble!!
I'd say Chops connections are far and wide, but, he'll join up if he has anything to say, I tip ya!

[Dean]

I'd say Chops connections are far and wide, but, he'll join up if he has anything to say, I tip ya!

To right, he would want to know whats said about him, most likey because he would curious as to why there is a thread on him in a kiwi motorcycle forum. That would be so awesome if he signed up and made an account, he could tell us his stories.

[Genestho]

To right, he would want to know whats said about him, most likey because he would curious as to why there is a thread on him in a kiwi motorcycle forum. That would be so awesome if he signed up and made an account, he could tell us his stories.
Crikey imagine it! I've googled stuff and KB threads come up! Not hard to find dude!

[Dean]

Crikey imagine it! I've googled stuff and KB threads come up! Not hard to find dude!

I would gladly go to a Kiwi Biker BBQ to hear his escapades if he joined up, the couches and the beverages, room would be silent just hearing his experiences!:Punk:

[wbks]

I'd say theres not much chance he'd bother reading, and Breed777's thread alone would be enough to send him into HTFU overload and he'd be forced to log off. I don't know why you respect someone so much yet you've never met them, and their reputation is made up of what he openly admits are exagerated (at times) "yarns"?

[Dean]

I'd say theres not much chance he'd bother reading, and Breed777's thread alone would be enough to send him into HTFU overload and he'd be forced to log off. I don't know why you respect someone so much yet you've never met them, and their reputation is made up of what he openly admits are exagerated (at times) "yarns"?

Breed777's thread is a real deep one, my prediction is it will go on for a long time, its good because people post positive advice. And there are morals to learn from it.

There is no disputing, whether Mark Brandon Read exaggerated or "yarned", he still went through a had life and his stories would be something to listen to.

[Genestho]

The only reason I took interest in the Chopinator, is because he used his bad profile, for good, and maybe money, without excusing his past.
Right or wrong.
Alot of people deny their pasts, even when, it's not even a fraction as bad!
I don't know if the word is respect, but.

[wbks]

Fair enough. Personally, I won't "respect" someone until I have at least met them and talked to them a bit, and even then most people are assholes and not what they're made out to be... Ok, all people.

[Genestho]

Fair enough. Personally, I won't "respect" someone until I have at least met them and talked to them a bit, and even then most people are assholes and not what they're made out to be... Ok, all people.
No you're right, respect is a sacred word, saved only for the ones that truly earn it, at a personal level.
All people, true? You're mixing with the wrong types hun!

[Dean]

Like what T.G.W said he made good things come from his bad past.

Here's what he said on the crime prevention ad "When I was in prison… I got slashed in the face… my ears cut off…..my eyebrows trimmed and a butcher's knife here, an icepick here - NOT FUN AT ALL, etc… If you drink and drive and you're unfortunate enough to hit somebody, you ought to pray to God that you don't go to prison".

[Genestho]

Like what T.G.W said he made good things come from his bad past.

Here's what he said on the crime prevention ad "When I was in prison… I got slashed in the face… my ears cut off…..my eyebrows trimmed and a butcher's knife here, an icepick here - NOT FUN AT ALL, etc… If you drink and drive and you're unfortunate enough to hit somebody, you ought to pray to God that you don't go to prison".
Yep, he is real straight up about that and drugs, that is one thing that was constant in his books.

[fridayflash]

a mate of mine was in bojangles nightclub the night mark shot sammy
the turk in '86, ive seen mark before in the leinster arms in collingwood
where hes a regular, him and eddie maguire..hardcore magpies supporters.
ive found a lot of melbourne locals fucken hate chopper...usualy due to
him having bashed either them or someone close to them

[Genestho]

a mate of mine was in bojangles nightclub the night mark shot sammy
the turk in '86, ive seen mark before in the leinster arms in collingwood
where hes a regular, him and eddie maguire..hardcore magpies supporters.
ive found a lot of melbourne locals fucken hate chopper...usualy due to
him having bashed either them or someone close to them
That's why he shot down to Tassie eh? Plus the profile thing, and mixing with Police...big balls really...or crazy!!!!

[Dean]

a mate of mine was in bojangles nightclub the night mark shot sammy
the turk in '86, ive seen mark before in the leinster arms in collingwood
where hes a regular, him and eddie maguire..hardcore magpies supporters.
ive found a lot of melbourne locals fucken hate chopper...usualy due to
him having bashed either them or someone close to them

:shit: wow, may i ask what did he see in detail the night Mark got sammy?

[wbks]

No you're right, respect is a sacred word, saved only for the ones that truly earn it, at a personal level.
All people, true? You're mixing with the wrong types hun!Maybe I'm too cynical, but looking past all the normally accepted points of view, that's what I'm seeing with every person I meet, and me. But that's off topic!

But yea, good for him if he is actually doing something to change for the "better". What does he say about drugs that you guys have mentioned

[fridayflash]

nothin much..other than that chop and other melb wideboys were
there, they didnt hear shots or anything due to loud music inside etc.
he reckons no fucker wanted to talk to the police about it, more for
fear of ending up in port melb courtesy of the vic police rather than by
chopper.

[Genestho]

Maybe I'm too cynical, but looking past all the normally accepted points of view, that's what I'm seeing with every person I meet, and me. But that's off topic!

But yea, good for him if he is actually doing something to change for the "better". What does he say about drugs that you guys have mentioned
From what I recall, he was TOTALLY anti drugs, I can't remember any quotes, could probably search them out, but that was the constant, being an old school crim, what they call them over there? The port/wharf guys, can't remember the names now!

It appeared he didn't like the 'class A' drug sellers. Think he saw the degradation first hand, particularly with women, and became anti.

[Dean]

nothin much..other than that chop and other melb wideboys were
there, they didnt hear shots or anything due to loud music inside etc.
he reckons no fucker wanted to talk to the police about it, more for
fear of ending up in port melb courtesy of the vic police rather than by
chopper.

If i was there i would of made sure i didnt look at him, i dont know if he was like that in the club but apparently he attacked or confronted people that talked to his gf or looked at him. The music must of been loud because i think he used a sawn of shotgun? Im guessing the vic police were brutal

[wbks]

From what I recall, he was TOTALLY anti drugs, I can't remember any quotes, could probably search them out, but that was the constant, being an old school crim, what they call them over there? The port/wharf guys, can't remember the names now!

It appeared he didn't like the 'class A' drug sellers. Think he saw the degradation first hand, particularly with women, and became anti.Well doing something about it deserves respect. Hell, if more people hacked up a few Pdealers the world would be a better place (or at least little ol nz), right?

[Genestho]

If i was there i would of made sure i didnt look at him, i dont know if he was like that in the club but apparently he attacked or confronted people that talked to his gf or looked at him. The music must of been loud because i think he used a sawn of shotgun? Im guessing the vic police were brutal
AUSSIE police can be brutal, when on the wrong side of them! They are armed (Well I know they were in Queensland!). The watch Tower in Brissy was particularly shocking, as I recall, at times. Mind you they are dealing with hard arses, and they don't muck around!

[Dean]

AUSSIE police can be brutal, when on the wrong side of them! They are armed (Well I know they were in Queensland!). The watch Tower in Brissy was particularly shocking, as I recall, at times. Mind you they are dealing with hard arses, and they don't muck around!

Oooh would/were they as bad or corrupt as our Nz police during that time? Or in general.

[fridayflash]

yeah the fear was that the vic police may or may not have wanted
siam dead...chopper claimed he did it with a cops gun..of course they denied
that.. who knows, either side could be lying-but mark didnt get convicted
of the killing

[Genestho]

Oooh would/were they as bad or corrupt as our Nz police during that time? Or in general.

I had heard there was quite a bit of corruption, especially around the Melbourne gang wars, which was rooted out, I had heard it went quite far, I don't think NZ police can be compared on that scale, to be honest!
While we have our fair share no doubt, I think it's minor - in comparison, but then, what do I know?

[Genestho]

yeah the fear was that the vic police may or may not have wanted
siam dead...chopper claimed he did it with a cops gun..of course they denied
that.. who knows, either side could be lying-but mark didnt get convicted
of the killing
Yea, that part there was dodge.

[fridayflash]

see blue murder if you can, thatll give you an example of police
corruption in those days...at least in nsw.

[Genestho]

Well doing something about it deserves respect. Hell, if more people hacked up a few Pdealers the world would be a better place (or at least little ol nz), right?

It seemed that was often the targets!

[Dean]

see blue murder if you can, thatll give you an example of police
corruption in those days...at least in nsw.

I wont be a corrupt cop, i dont think NZ police has ever really been brutal, but I'm amazed i never new Vic police were that bad. Still though Mark having his big profile on the streets, surely some were more afraid of Marks revenge if they were caught snitching?

[Genestho]

I wont be a corrupt cop, i dont think NZ police has ever really been brutal, but I'm amazed i never new Vic police were that bad. Still though Mark having his big profile on the streets, surely some were more afraid of Marks revenge if they were caught snitching?
Mate it went deep, and had probably been going on for a LONG time.
Am I correct in recalling Mark was 'marked' for being the assumed snitch?
I think he said "up yours" in an interview, quite a while ago now though, we're talking nearly 10 years when all this was going on

[Dean]

see blue murder if you can, thatll give you an example of police
corruption in those days...at least in nsw.

Blue murder, will try to watch that, in those days are we talking 1990's late 80's

[Forest]

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[fridayflash]

Blue murder, will try to watch that, in those days are we talking 1990's late 80's

its a bit tricky too get hold of the movie (blue murder) as it was
a 'made for tv" movie and not availble to rent on dvd etc
altho they do sell it in 'abc' shops in oz.
based on 70's and early 80's