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7mmWSM
14th July 2009, 16:34
Honda have finally released pics and info on the new CRF250R.

Yes its completely new from the ground up, Yes it is FUEL INJECTED and YES I want one!

http://www.cityhonda.co.nz/default.aspx?page=new-motorcycles&catname=Dirt&prodid=c63f0b63-9e42-44c9-9807-4b361453b914

cambridgedan
14th July 2009, 16:38
i see its back to a single exhaust :( i guess they have reasons but i think the twin exhaust looked cool :D

barty5
14th July 2009, 16:45
they dumped that huge shovel of a front pipe.

takitimu
14th July 2009, 17:48
they dumped that huge shovel of a front pipe.

Yep & you never know it might actually start if you stall it hot this time.

If it does start real well, then it's shaping up to be a weapon, never heard anyone complain about last years handling, starting now that was a problem :).

It's damn light to, 103kg kerb weight from memory.

B0000M
14th July 2009, 18:02
It's damn light to, 103kg kerb weight from memory.

still heavier than the 2 stroke!

barty5
14th July 2009, 18:07
still heavier than the 2 stroke!

blah blah blah brocken record play it again sam haaahaaaahahahaaaha

green machine
14th July 2009, 18:10
blah blah blah brocken record play it again sam haaahaaaahahahaaaha

Hahaha......put your gloves on:innocent:

tommorth
14th July 2009, 18:19
heavyer but efi nice bike looks a bit bland though

telliman
14th July 2009, 18:26
heavyer but efi nice bike looks a bit bland though

yeah cant believe they still running siver rims on there race bikes,fair enough on the X model but not the race versions. i;ll be getting one thats for sure!

Rupe
14th July 2009, 18:56
still heavier than the 2 stroke!

Just googled your 06 cr250. It states the the kerb(wet) weight of yours to be 104.8kgs. So your 2stroke is heaverier fueled ready to go, than a 4stroke!

I'd like to ride a efi one to see what differance it made.

cheese
14th July 2009, 19:29
Hmm the spec you got on the CR is wrong Rupe.

I weighed my CR with the scales from work for shits and giggles and its 102.8KG, so if the new CRF is 103, it is heavier. And the 06 CR is 100g heavier than the 04 so Sams one should be about 102.9. So its is less than the new CRF.

LOL!!!

B0000M
14th July 2009, 19:39
lol, nice.

still it does look quite nice. i still wont own one, but im sure itd be great for some riders.

Rupe
14th July 2009, 19:48
Hmm the spec you got on the CR is wrong Rupe.

I weighed my CR with the scales from work for shits and giggles and its 102.8KG, so if the new CRF is 103, it is heavier. And the 06 CR is 100g heavier than the 04 so Sams one should be about 102.9. So its is less than the new CRF.

LOL!!!

maybe stale fuel is lighter, or you were a 200ml of fuel short! 103kgs is what the internet states, maybe thats wrong, maybe your work scales would weigh the crf lighter. And maybe there's fuck all in it, and maybe no one really cares.

It is a nice bike though and I'd like one......the heavier crf.

cheese
14th July 2009, 19:51
I'd have one, just not fill the tank right up on it!! LOL

Its a dam nice looking bike. I don't think it looks bland at all. if you think it was bland, graphics would sort that.

takitimu
14th July 2009, 19:51
Hmm the spec you got on the CR is wrong Rupe.

I weighed my CR with the scales from work for shits and giggles and its 102.8KG, so if the new CRF is 103, it is heavier. And the 06 CR is 100g heavier than the 04 so Sams one should be about 102.9. So its is less than the new CRF.

LOL!!!

when the diff is under 1 kilo I think you are splitting hairs to be honest, there are good reasons to argue 2/ vs 4/, but kerb weight isn't one of them anymore to my way of thinking ( 250 2/ vs 250 4/ ).

A number of guys I ride with are going back 2/, but I reckon until they sort out the emissions like the envinrude outboards, 2/ is effectively stalled technology, though I think they will sort it out & we are probably at or near the peak of 4/ in the battle against 2/ ( numbers of 4/ bikes vs 2/ ).

Maybe it'll be the Chinese who make the 2/ breakthrough, for some reason the Japs are head in the sand about 4/ issues.

cheese
14th July 2009, 19:55
maybe stale fuel is lighter, or you were a 200ml of fuel short! 103kgs is what the internet states, maybe thats wrong, maybe your work scales would weigh the crf lighter. And maybe there's fuck all in it, and maybe no one really cares.

It is a nice bike though and I'd like one......the heavier crf.

Na they are proper scales we use for weighing freight for international shipping. Topped up with gas too. Just stating the facts!! LOL and just to be a dick really.

Anyway onwards and upwards. We've gone as off topic as Sami on a good day.

Rupe
14th July 2009, 20:05
We've gone as off topic as Sami on a good day.

true.

anyone ridden a efi bike to confirm if it makes much of a difference. Noticed Ryan Dungy (rmz250 with efi) had a big crash, bike flipped lots, and was still running when he got to it

clmintie
14th July 2009, 20:27
Noticed Ryan Dungy (rmz250 with efi) had a big crash, bike flipped lots, and was still running when he got to it

They should use that in their advertising.... :laugh:

7mmWSM
14th July 2009, 22:16
true.

anyone ridden a efi bike to confirm if it makes much of a difference. Noticed Ryan Dungy (rmz250 with efi) had a big crash, bike flipped lots, and was still running when he got to it

The EFI should obviously be efficient - the tank size is only 5.6 litres but will get the same millage as the 08 model with a 7.something litre tank.
Riding the 09 450 (EFI) over the 08 was a big difference. The 09 is very crisp off the line and has no bog when you crack the throttle. Power is a lot smoother and had no nasty hits of aggressive power making it easier to ride.

Hopefully the 250 will be the same.

telliman
14th July 2009, 22:29
its getting as close to the power band feeling as a 4t is gonna get,i hope it gives the 250 a more agressive hit down low,you already have the touque ow it just needs the booggie! for the record iv never ridden an efi bike but i hope thats where the 4t is heaed.

Boosted
15th July 2009, 08:28
so fuck the honda, wheres the 2010 yz250f? :(

takitimu
15th July 2009, 08:34
so fuck the honda, wheres the 2010 yz250f? :(

Damn good question, given how little they changed last year you'd hope she's a full rebuild like the suzuki & honda's.

WRFracer
15th July 2009, 09:04
Damn good question, given how little they changed last year you'd hope she's a full rebuild like the suzuki & honda's.



Oh they are going to be full sick, at least the 450 is and from what I heard the 250 is possibaly going to have the same ground up rebuild.

takitimu
15th July 2009, 09:12
Oh they are going to be full sick, at least the 450 is and from what I heard the 250 is possibaly going to have the same ground up rebuild.

Bubba sure seemed happy with his new 450, sure hope the 250 get's a ground up, the YZ's up here seem to enjoy running over KTM's & their riders, so always good sport to have them around.

courts
15th July 2009, 09:16
The EFI should obviously be efficient - the tank size is only 5.6 litres but will get the same millage as the 08 model with a 7.something litre tank.
Riding the 09 450 (EFI) over the 08 was a big difference. The 09 is very crisp off the line and has no bog when you crack the throttle. Power is a lot smoother and had no nasty hits of aggressive power making it easier to ride.

Hopefully the 250 will be the same.

How come its still quite heavy when its saving 2.5 kilos on fuel weight????

WRFracer
15th July 2009, 09:25
How come its still quite heavy when its saving 2.5 kilos on fuel weight????


Bubba sure seemed happy with his new 450, sure hope the 250 get's a ground up, the YZ's up here seem to enjoy running over KTM's & their riders, so always good sport to have them around.

The weight of the fuel pump adds to it as does the extra stuff in the ignition/magneto area for powering the fuel pump, throttle body & brains behind the operation.

Yamaha's always love stomping on KTM's :laugh:

Sammikins
15th July 2009, 10:04
Anyway onwards and upwards. We've gone as off topic as Sami on a good day.

I resent that comment... :2guns:

chop
15th July 2009, 10:26
true.

anyone ridden a efi bike to confirm if it makes much of a difference. Noticed Ryan Dungy (rmz250 with efi) had a big crash, bike flipped lots, and was still running when he got to it

Ive ridden the RMZ and KXF inj bike KXF is alot smoother than than RMZ. I flipped the KXF in an enduro and it lay on the ground for a bit and then started straight up again.. Never ever had starting issues

raglanash
15th July 2009, 11:28
Ive ridden the RMZ and KXF inj bike KXF is alot smoother than than RMZ. I flipped the KXF in an enduro and it lay on the ground for a bit and then started straight up again.. Never ever had starting issues Love the fi, no bog no lag only problem is that they run on their side when you stack it, cool if you are close by and unhurt, not so cool if the throttle is stuck in the dirt and its revving it's tit's of while you are in the fetal position crying for mum.. My bro's ran the big end bearing, we think it was because it ran dry in the aformentioned situation. Just somthing to be aware of if you ride one. The CRF pumps oil out the breather into the airbox when that happens as well, there is fuck all oil in these fi bikes so keep checking it and stand the buggers up as quick as you can after a stack.

kezzafish
15th July 2009, 11:50
good point. ash. i wonder if they can sort that out with a tipover switch like some quads have. You wouldn't want it switching off while jumping or laying it into the berm tho so would be tricky. Maybe a fool proof "will run upside down" dry sump system would sort it but again that's probably tricky to do

ArcherWC
15th July 2009, 12:06
you could run a teather kill switch like a jetski or road race bike

raglanash
15th July 2009, 14:00
you could run a teather kill switch like a jetski or road race bike We thought of that too, but I imagine your mood while trying to plug that fucker back in in the middle of a race or getting it ripped out in the bush, yeah nah... I think there is a mercury switch or somthing in them which shuts the engine down after 10 seconds or somthing like that but even 10 seconds bouncing of the limiter would not be good eh and I'm not keen to test it. Fi is the shit though, very smooth power, My 07 used to rip my arms off, this thing has more power but is way easier to control. I'd say it will make heaps of difference to a 250 down low.