More Power Required

[scorry]

Rito i need more power, whats the best / most cost effective option

corner speed doesnt seem to be a problem for me but i am sick of getting passed down the straights.

I just rebuilt my bike with a high comp piston and got the jetting set mint so its puttin out 50hp at the wheel now.

i thought that was alright but i got nailed down the straight at levels in the weekend by a crf450, far from std tho its got 54 at the wheel.
i also got passed by a couple of brand new 450smr's.

let me know what you guys think.

[hospitalfood]

the money you spend on extras never comes back. trade up or love it as it is and get yet another to keep it company while your at work.

[GaZBur]

...let me know what you guys think.

Drink less Speights and keep up the exercise and your power to weight ratio will keep improving mate! Cheapest option too.
Spend the money on better seats for the van. My neck hurts from sleeping on a funny angle on the way home.

[nallac]

nitrous........

[scorry]

the money you spend on extras never comes back. trade up or love it as it is and get yet another to keep it company while your at work.

have thought about his, i really want one of the new KTM 450smr's, but they are 17 grand! ouch, thats a lot for a motard


Drink less Speights and keep up the exercise and your power to weight ratio will keep improving mate! Cheapest option too.
Spend the money on better seats for the van. My neck hurts from sleeping on a funny angle on the way home.

haha yeah im trying but speights is just too good
will work on getting new seats just for you gaz


nitrous........

hmmmm

[Quasievil]

have thought about his, i really want one of the new KTM 450smr's, but they are 17 grand! ouch, thats a lot for a motard


hmmmm

They aint any quicker than mine bro (geared right) I can follow greg boyds one reasonably evenly on the straights, of course he owns me on the corners!

[scorry]

They aint any quicker than mine bro (geared right) I can follow greg boyds one reasonably evenly on the straights, of course he owns me on the corners!

oh tru, 2 of them passed me and pulled away yesterday.

how much different is a smr to a sx?
is it just the close ratio box?
has yours got a slipper clutch?

[Quasievil]

oh tru, 2 of them passed me and pulled away yesterday.

how much different is a smr to a sx?
is it just the close ratio box?
has yours got a slipper clutch?

Hi Dude, not entirely sure to be honest.

No slipper clutch on it tho.

[hogfire]

Couldnt agree more!

[Quasievil]

Couldnt agree more!

With what Folic acid in bread ?

Scorry interesting to note that not many clicked the exhaust.

All the motarders I know ALL got the biggest gains by a Exhaust system

Also a cheap 1 hp is by drilling about 2 inch holes over the Air Filter cover, exposing the Air Filter, this is worth 1 hole HP and is cheaper than anything...........I did it based on instruction from Gavin Veltemeyer and he is a dyno tuner and KTM bike mechanic and a very fast Motard racer.

[hogfire]

Nah to buying a new bike. Sorry wasnt very specific there.

[smeghead]

And new rear shocks for the van. Definitely need some new shocks instead of the bubblegum you are currently using.

As for the bike:

+1 for the exhaust. A performance header was the best upgrade I did to my DRZ. Heard a few people with worked bikes say that the header upgrade was the single best upgrade they did.

A new hot cam is probably the cheapest option, but you won't get a lot more power out of it, specially given the exhaust is probably your bottleneck.

I have the 570 big bore in my 525EXC (makes it 532cc) and you still have a couple more HP than me. A header and high comp slug will be my next upgrades (in that order) - just need to figure out what header to get (and save some pennies or sell something).

--Mark

[scorry]

With what Folic acid in bread ?

Scorry interesting to note that not many clicked the exhaust.

All the motarders I know ALL got the biggest gains by a Exhaust system

Also a cheap 1 hp is by drilling about 2 inch holes over the Air Filter cover, exposing the Air Filter, this is worth 1 hole HP and is cheaper than anything...........I did it based on instruction from Gavin Veltemeyer and he is a dyno tuner and KTM bike mechanic and a very fast Motard racer.

yeah i have got some holes in my airbox after i seen your pics and write up about it.


Nah to buying a new bike. Sorry wasnt very specific there.

dont think i will, just seems like too much money given my bike shouldnt take much to upgrade


And new rear shocks for the van. Definitely need some new shocks instead of the bubblegum you are currently using.

As for the bike:

+1 for the exhaust. A performance header was the best upgrade I did to my DRZ. Heard a few people with worked bikes say that the header upgrade was the single best upgrade they did.

A new hot cam is probably the cheapest option, but you won't get a lot more power out of it, specially given the exhaust is probably your bottleneck.

I have the 570 big bore in my 525EXC (makes it 532cc) and you still have a couple more HP than me. A header and high comp slug will be my next upgrades (in that order) - just need to figure out what header to get (and save some pennies or sell something).

--Mark

sorry bout the suspension mate, im gonna try sort it before next months trip
im also trying to talk a guy into seeling me his full arrow system off a bike on trade me but dunno if he will go for it.
ive offered him a cheeky $500 before and he politely told me where to go lol

[Quasievil]

yeah i have got some holes in my airbox after i seen your pics and write up about it.



dont think i will, just seems like too much money given my bike shouldnt take much to upgrade



sorry bout the suspension mate, im gonna try sort it before next months trip
im also trying to talk a guy into seeling me his full arrow system off a bike on trade me but dunno if he will go for it.
ive offered him a cheeky $500 before and he politely told me where to go lol

I got a full Akropovic for $700 there is hope

[scorry]

I got a full Akropovic for $700 there is hope

wow thats pretty good, dunno if i could be that lucky, especially since the 03 seems to be the hardest year to find parts for

but you never know

[YellowDog]

Drink less Speights and keep up the exercise and your power to weight ratio will keep improving mate! Cheapest option too.
Spend the money on better seats for the van. My neck hurts from sleeping on a funny angle on the way home.
Improve Power to weight ratio.

[TK3]

Rito i need more power, whats the best / most cost effective option

corner speed doesnt seem to be a problem for me but i am sick of getting passed down the straights.

I just rebuilt my bike with a high comp piston and got the jetting set mint so its puttin out 50hp at the wheel now.

i thought that was alright but i got nailed down the straight at levels in the weekend by a crf450, far from std tho its got 54 at the wheel.
i also got passed by a couple of brand new 450smr's.

let me know what you guys think.

You should just buy mine... it's up for sale and it's pretty cheap for what it has on it, than a the fact that if someone doesn't buy it I'm going to end up racing it again this year:doctor:

[Quasievil]

You should just buy mine... it's up for sale and it's pretty cheap for what it has on it, than a the fact that if someone doesn't buy it I'm going to end up racing it again this year:doctor:

Bags not race against you at Paeora, look what happened to that other fella !

[TK3]

Bags not race against you at Paeora, look what happened to that other fella !

Ha ha ha hey I told him that following me was not a good idea :clap: and you did race me at Paeroa but you can't crash in to me if you already crashed a lap earlier :banana:

[TK3]

Bags not race against you at Paeora, look what happened to that other fella !

Just for that comment I just wasted you on Face book Motorcycle madness! :headbang:

[scorry]

You should just buy mine... it's up for sale and it's pretty cheap for what it has on it, than a the fact that if someone doesn't buy it I'm going to end up racing it again this year:doctor:

what sort of ponies is your poking out mate?

any issues with reliability since its had all that work done?

[TK3]

what sort of ponies is your poking out mate?

any issues with reliability since its had all that work done?

Not sure about the HP but alot it has a shit load of torque !! I have just had new bearing throughout and had a new piston and rings about three hours ago. It is fast ever with a 105kg rider on it:clap:

[Quasievil]

what sort of ponies is your poking out mate?

any issues with reliability since its had all that work done?


i cant fucking wait for the answer on this one
:dodge:

[SeppoDave]

Not to drag up the past, but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuTlCZ2P1js

[scorry]

hope ive found my answer, i have just ordered the least voted for item lol & also the 2nd fav (thanks dad)

[scorry]

Not sure about the HP but alot it has a shit load of torque !! I have just had new bearing throughout and had a new piston and rings about three hours ago. It is fast ever with a 105kg rider on it:clap:

it was tempting mate, but i figured i might as well work with what ive got.

good luck with the sale, sounds like a wicked bike

[Quasievil]

hope ive found my answer, i have just ordered the least voted for item lol & also the 2nd fav (thanks dad)

mate nice but a exhaust would have given it a better performance improvement

[ducatilover]

540 kit and improve the flow of the engine. What kind of parts availability is there? And what are the specifications of the camshaft[s] in it now?

[scorry]

mate nice but a exhaust would have given it a better performance improvement

yep thats on its way too mate, just a header.
its got the sx muffler which is pretty good but getting rid of those 2 seperate headers has to help


540 kit and improve the flow of the engine. What kind of parts availability is there? And what are the specifications of the camshaft[s] in it now?

was sx cam in it which for stock is pretty good, soon to have a hot cam tho.

540 cam will have to wait, this is gonna cost me a bit as it is

[Quasievil]

yep thats on its way too mate, just a header.
its got the sx muffler which is pretty good but getting rid of those 2 seperate headers has to help



was sx cam in it which for stock is pretty good, soon to have a hot cam tho.

540 cam will have to wait, this is gonna cost me a bit as it is

I got my original muffler professionally cut and opened up ie a 50mm perf tube put in it, maybe you want it, a swap (so I got the original) you can have my modded one.
It did make a difference to mine so should on yours

[scorry]

I got my original muffler professionally cut and opened up ie a 50mm perf tube put in it, maybe you want it, a swap (so I got the original) you can have my modded one.
It did make a difference to mine so should on yours

could be keen mate, ill see how much i get with the stock one to start with.

thanks heaps for the offer

[ducatilover]

was sx cam in it which for stock is pretty good, soon to have a hot cam tho.

540 cam will have to wait, this is gonna cost me a bit as it is Do you know what duration/lift/lobe centers etc? You may be able to get a great custom grind done. Flow the head to help the cam.

[scorry]

Do you know what duration/lift/lobe centers etc? You may be able to get a great custom grind done. Flow the head to help the cam.

straight from the hot cams website, i have no idea what this means btw lol

Intake
Intake lift (mm): 10.80
Intake lobe center (degrees): 113.00
Intake duration (degrees at 1mm): 271.00
Intake valve lash (mm): 0.13
Exhaust
Exhaust lift (mm): 10.20
Exhaust lobe center (degrees): 111.00
Exhaust duration (degrees at 1mm): 261.00
Exhaust valve lash (mm): 0.13

[ducatilover]

straight from the hot cams website, i have no idea what this means btw lol

Intake
Intake lift (mm): 10.80
Intake lobe center (degrees): 113.00
Intake duration (degrees at 1mm): 271.00
Intake valve lash (mm): 0.13
Exhaust
Exhaust lift (mm): 10.20
Exhaust lobe center (degrees): 111.00
Exhaust duration (degrees at 1mm): 261.00
Exhaust valve lash (mm): 0.13 Those lobe centers are silly, 106-108 would be better, my bike is running 105. The duration wouldn't need any improvement [especially considering it's measured at 1mm of lift:yes:] I would be inclined to run tighter lobe centers myself :rockon:

[barryr1]

Buy my WR480 mate hahaha.

[scorry]

Buy my WR480 mate hahaha.

have you not sold that thing yet?

thought it would have been snapped up at the price oyu were asking.

Might not be much luck fr me selling my wr then huh?

[barryr1]

Loads of idiots wanting to pay $6k for it, I had one serious guy but only had $7k and couldn't get any more. So I am now breaking it up for bits I think.

Shame but no one has the cash........

[Quasievil]

looks like my Bike is coming to Christchurch Scorry, possible sold, guys coming on Friday to check it out.

[cowpoos]

Those lobe centers are silly, 106-108 would be better, my bike is running 105. The duration wouldn't need any improvement [especially considering it's measured at 1mm of lift:yes:] I would be inclined to run tighter lobe centers myself :rockon:
no there are fine for a engine making good power in a 5000-8500rpm rev range with a 720 degree firing.

[ducatilover]

no there are fine for a engine making good power in a 5000-8500rpm rev range with a 720 degree firing.

That doesn't rev very high does it? I was expecting a bit more rev than that, you are right.

[scorry]

looks like my Bike is coming to Christchurch Scorry, possible sold, guys coming on Friday to check it out.

oh tru, hmm will keep an eye out at the next meeting in levels then maybe?

[scorry]

Dam it, should have sold the bloody thing!!! :angry2::angry2:

went to put it back together after putting the new cam and cam chain in and thought i had better check out the piston while im there.

heaps of marks down the side of it and on the bore, fook it.

now its gunna need a new piston and a rod kit before the double header (levels on saturday and teretonga on sunday) this weekend.
:angry2::angry2:

wont know till later this morning if i can even get parts here that quick.

this one is gunna hurt the bank for sure

[barryr1]

Do you want to buy a WR480 to run?? Hahaha

Hope you get it sorted in time.