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hogfire
20th July 2009, 12:30
Does the Power Commander make a difference, in any way, to a fuel injected bike? Just wana know is it worth it if i buy one

Cajun
20th July 2009, 12:41
yes a power command can change the fuel mapping to give bike more/less fuel to improve performance, etc.

vifferman
20th July 2009, 12:56
It won't make much difference as far as power goes - that's largely dictated by the mechanical bits of your bike. If you fit aftermarket bits (airfilter, zorsts) then you might gain a pony or two by having the injection remapped to suit them.
The biggest difference the Power Commander makes is giving you a smoother power curve (especially if you're fitted aftermarket bits), without the dips and spikes that are often present. Some of these are built in; for example, there is usually a lean part in the air/fuel ratio at the revs that emissions testing is done (usually around 5-6k rpm), and a corresponding steep bit in the curve where the fueling is richened up again as it comes out of the lean bit.
The other advantage of a Power Commander (and this is where the biggest gains are made) is that you can get a trained operator with a dyno to make a custom map for [I]your[I] bike's unique mechanical characteristics. No two bikes of the same model are exactly the same, but the factory fueling maps are a "one size fits all" solution, that may be too rich or too lean for your bike in places.

pritch
20th July 2009, 15:54
When I was inquiring about a PC3 I was told that the device, with a custom map, would make a far bigger improvement than any slip-on exhaust system.

I didn't try the exhaust system on that bike but the PC3 (with custom map) definitely smoothed things out, and I also had the impression that the bike pulled harder further up the revs.

The custom map needs to be made by someone who knows what he's doing and has the gas analyser version of the dyno. The website lists (listed?) who has what model DynoJet.

"D" FZ1
20th July 2009, 15:57
We have got a "Dyno Jet" Dyno at Henderson Yamaha. Our service manager Gavin has many years experience tuning bikes on the Dyno. He worked at AMPS for years tuning bikes on their Dyno.

Pussy
20th July 2009, 18:09
Does the Power Commander make a difference, in any way, to a fuel injected bike? Just wana know is it worth it if i buy one

Worth every cent!
I have no experience with other dyno tuners around the country, but can totally recommend Gary Pendleton in Tauranga. He does a superb job.
The power commander alters the fuelling every 250rpm, with ten throttle positions for each of the 250rpm increments

hogfire
20th July 2009, 19:56
Cheers Guys for that. Have brought a power commander and fitted it to my SV650 tonight and will take it in to get a custom map done.

How much does it cost to get a custom map done? or is there no average/ normal cost?

Pussy
20th July 2009, 20:37
Cheers Guys for that. Have brought a power commander and fitted it to my SV650 tonight and will take it in to get a custom map done.

How much does it cost to get a custom map done? or is there no average/ normal cost?
It's about $450-500, depending.
It makes a HUGE difference

hogfire
20th July 2009, 20:46
Cheers Guys for that. Have brought a power commander and fitted it to my SV650 tonight and will take it in to get a custom map done.

How much does it cost to get a custom map done? or is there no average/ normal cost?


It's about $450-500, depending.
It makes a HUGE difference

Just to get mapping done. How long does it take?

NinjaBoy
20th July 2009, 21:11
Just to get mapping done. How long does it take?

Usually a few hours assuming everything is going OK

Pussy
20th July 2009, 21:14
Just to get mapping done. How long does it take?
Takes about 3 hours.
We had a K5 SV650 custom mapped. The difference in throttle response was awesome.
Is your 650 an Aussie spec one? (check the VIN plate, if it's aluminium it more than likely is). If it is, I have still got a copy of the map we had done, but it is for K&N filter/full Yoshimura exhaust.... you're welcome to try it.
Alternatively, just run one of Dynojet's maps in it till you get a custom done

hogfire
20th July 2009, 21:23
If i could grab it that would be good. i have a slip on neptune exhaust and k&n air filter. my email is:

allan_hendry003@hotmail.com

Cheers Allan


Takes about 3 hours.
We had a K5 SV650 custom mapped. The difference in throttle response was awesome.
Is your 650 an Aussie spec one? (check the VIN plate, if it's aluminium it more than likely is). If it is, I have still got a copy of the map we had done, but it is for K&N filter/full Yoshimura exhaust.... you're welcome to try it.
Alternatively, just run one of Dynojet's maps in it till you get a custom done

Pussy
20th July 2009, 21:24
If i could grab it that would be good. i have a slip on neptune exhaust and k&n air filter. my email is:

allan_hendry003@hotmail.com

Cheers Allan
On it's way soon!

Pussy
20th July 2009, 21:40
If i could grab it that would be good. i have a slip on neptune exhaust and k&n air filter. my email is:

allan_hendry003@hotmail.com

Cheers Allan
Check your "in" box, Allan!
Cheers

hogfire
20th July 2009, 21:43
Got the message. Thanks alot! Ill give it a go and get back to you.

Owe ya one

Cheers Allan


Check your "in" box, Allan!
Cheers

Pussy
20th July 2009, 21:59
Just had a look at your album, Allan.... you DO have an Aussie (E24) spec bike :niceone:

Laava
20th July 2009, 22:26
Hey Hogfire, I put a PC III on my DL and it smoothed things out, but no noticeable increase in power. Most people I have talked to said not to do the PC before trying a TRE as that made a huge difference. One guy was a SV1000 rider. I will be getting one soon as well but not sure if it is applicable to your bike? Worth your while to have a good browse on the SV forums for a heads up. Triplzee do both a dynotune for your PC and TRE's I believe. Oh- and they will give good advice as well!

PeeJay
21st July 2009, 07:05
Cheers Guys for that. Have brought a power commander and fitted it to my SV650 tonight and will take it in to get a custom map done.

How much does it cost to get a custom map done? or is there no average/ normal cost?
You dont muck about do you, maybe a bit late for you but not for others
teka tuner will plug in and can tune the stock ecu. I believe tripleR in chch has one.
Would a 700km round trip be worth saving $700?
In Auckland try john@triplezee or ray clee
On my DL1000 Triplezee removed the secondaries and tuned with the teka $300 all up. Mad a helluva diff especially top end. Beats the $1200 quote i got for pc3 and custom map

hogfire
21st July 2009, 09:00
Just had a look at your album, Allan.... you DO have an Aussie (E24) spec bike :niceone:

I think it is. Has an aluminium vin number and a sticker saying about the noise silence system for aussie standards

banjo3006
20th September 2009, 20:59
I had a PCIII fitted by GP Honda in Mt Maunganui at the start of the month. My bike had a Scorpion can but was other wise stock. The PCIII was fitted in conjunction with a K&N and custom mapped. Peak HP went from 151 to 162 and was stronger right through the range as was torque. money well spent :done:

2wheeldrifter
21st September 2009, 00:22
So how much all is it costing you guys for the pc3 USB ? and getting it mapped?
I got mine from Fuelmoto, $440 nz all up. I can upload as many maps as I want for PC3 usb for free.(have 4 at the mo) Plus I can play with all the settings, plug it into my computer make my own. Its great shit!

centercore
17th October 2009, 10:31
So how much all is it costing you guys for the pc3 USB ? and getting it mapped?
I got mine from Fuelmoto, $440 nz all up. I can upload as many maps as I want for PC3 usb for free.(have 4 at the mo) Plus I can play with all the settings, plug it into my computer make my own. Its great shit!

I second Fuel moto(from ebay). Payed as above and it arrived just under 2 weeks.

Pussy
17th October 2009, 11:13
Just be careful... DynoJet WON'T back up a PC that wasn't purchased through their local agents, if it goes tits up.
I had a PC develop a fault in it (on my K4 GSX-R1000), it was about three weeks out of warranty, but the local importer replaced it foc anyway