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carverguy
25th July 2009, 14:30
I unfortunatly got pinged and was disqaulified for 6 months( two to go) be ready for summer.I also had 80 demerit points. Does anyone know if the loss of licence would also scrub the demerits off?
Annoying if not because it wont take much to cop 20 more points and have another 3 months of bike polishing>:gob:

JimO
25th July 2009, 14:59
I unfortunatly got pinged and was disqaulified for 6 months( two to go) be ready for summer.I also had 80 demerit points. Does anyone know if the loss of licence would also scrub the demerits off?
Annoying if not because it wont take much to cop 20 more points and have another 3 months of bike polishing>:gob:

i think it does, thats the whole reason for demerits

crazyhorse
25th July 2009, 15:12
Here's hoping it does buddy :lol:

scumdog
25th July 2009, 15:22
I unfortunatly got pinged and was disqaulified for 6 months( two to go) be ready for summer.I also had 80 demerit points. Does anyone know if the loss of licence would also scrub the demerits off?
Annoying if not because it wont take much to cop 20 more points and have another 3 months of bike polishing>:gob:


Did whatever you got 'pinged' for give you the demerits?

Or were those demerits there before you got 'pinged'?

p.dath
25th July 2009, 15:38
I unfortunatly got pinged and was disqaulified for 6 months( two to go) be ready for summer.I also had 80 demerit points. Does anyone know if the loss of licence would also scrub the demerits off?
Annoying if not because it wont take much to cop 20 more points and have another 3 months of bike polishing>:gob:

Yes, loss of licence usually resets your demerit points back to zero.

Imagine loosing your licence through too many demerit points. You get your licence back, and instantly loose it again because you have the same number of demerit points.

scumdog
25th July 2009, 15:40
Yes, loss of licence usually resets your demerit points back to zero.

Imagine loosing your licence through too many demerit points. You get your licence back, and instantly loose it again because you have the same number of demerit points.

You lose the first 100


I guess if you have 180 by the time they pluck your licence it must suck when you get it back...

no_8wire
25th July 2009, 16:36
I thought it would depend on why you lost your license. i.e if you lost your license for a dangerous driving charge, (no demerits?) your accrued demerits would still be sitting on your license because you didnt lose your license due to getting 100 demerits but on another offense etc


but I could be wrong...

James Deuce
25th July 2009, 16:43
There's this website with all this stuff on it, and we, like, pay for it because we, like, you know, pay taxes and stuff?

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/factsheets/50.html

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/legislation/penalty.html

one fast tl1ooo
25th July 2009, 17:39
:shit: hope they don't count,

carverguy
25th July 2009, 17:45
There's this website with all this stuff on it, and we, like, pay for it because we, like, you know, pay taxes and stuff?

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/factsheets/50.html

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/legislation/penalty.html


Thanks had a look but there didnt seem to be any specific info. I actual tried to ring the MOT but got shuffled between tongue draggers and gave up.
Cheers.

carverguy
25th July 2009, 17:54
Did whatever you got 'pinged' for give you the demerits?

Or were those demerits there before you got 'pinged'?

No I had them before I got caught 99mil over the 80 limit for the 6 months disqualification. couldnt get an answer from MOT.
Chers

carverguy
25th July 2009, 17:55
:shit: hope they don't count,

Thanks 20 demerits are easy to clock up, hell 80 was realy easy!

carverguy
25th July 2009, 17:58
I thought it would depend on why you lost your license. i.e if you lost your license for a dangerous driving charge, (no demerits?) your accrued demerits would still be sitting on your license because you didnt lose your license due to getting 100 demerits but on another offense etc


but I could be wrong...
Thanks .twas the drink hosifer, thought some other poor biker might have had the same experience.

carverguy
25th July 2009, 18:00
Yes, loss of licence usually resets your demerit points back to zero.

Imagine loosing your licence through too many demerit points. You get your licence back, and instantly loose it again because you have the same number of demerit points.
Brrrrr wouldnt like to imagine it or go through this shit again, buses suck!

scumdog
25th July 2009, 18:03
Thanks 20 demerits are easy to clock up, hell 80 was realy easy!

50 for DIC I believe.

FJRider
25th July 2009, 18:03
I unfortunatly got pinged and was disqaulified for 6 months( two to go) be ready for summer.I also had 80 demerit points. Does anyone know if the loss of licence would also scrub the demerits off?


If you got "pinged" for an offence, thus losing your licence.... :shit: that was a seperate offence than those you got demerit points for. :angry:

My bet is you will still have 80 demerits on licence return. .... :gob:

Then again, I have been known to be wrong... :innocent:

carverguy
25th July 2009, 18:07
50 for DIC I believe.
well thats me stuffed then! gonna be hell to judge if the level gets dropped to 50mll. would be better at zero then at least you would know

James Deuce
25th July 2009, 18:07
Thanks had a look but there didnt seem to be any specific info. I actual tried to ring the MOT but got shuffled between tongue draggers and gave up.
Cheers.

Errr, yes there is, you'll need to read the whole thing, but it specifically discusses when you'll lose your license and how long demerits stand for.

The MOT aren't interested. Ring LTNZ - or whatever they are called this week.

carverguy
25th July 2009, 18:09
If you got "pinged" for an offence, thus losing your licence.... :shit: that was a seperate offence than those you got demerit points for. :angry:

My bet is you will still have 80 demerits on licence return. .... :gob:

Then again, I have been known to be wrong... :innocent:
I will have to be very good then for 12 months + very confussering those MPH speedos!

carverguy
25th July 2009, 18:11
Errr, yes there is, you'll need to read the whole thing, but it specifically discusses when you'll lose your license and how long demerits stand for.

The MOT aren't interested. Ring LTNZ - or whatever they are called this week.

Right I will have another look and also ring LTNZ as you suggest Cheers

Davfff
14th August 2009, 09:21
Hrm, on the subject of demerits, I went over the 100 limit around two and a half to three years ago (probably by some fair margin as my last ticket was a bit of a doozy). For one reason or another, I've never heard from the cops or had anyone knocking on my door. I've always kept my licensing information up to date with the LTSA so I'm not quite sure what's going on. I even called 'em up once wondering what the deal was, the operator told me I was over the limit and to expect my license to be seized.

Probably 18 months after I went "over the threshold", I knocked up an additional, but very minor, speeding ticket ($80, I believe) which I paid without incident.

I'm glad to say that I have learnt my lesson, even if it had to be brow beaten into me with repeated ticketing and the eventual possibility of losing my license. Has anyone else had any experience with a situation like this?

BiK3RChiK
14th August 2009, 10:09
I understand that you can ring up LTNZ (or whatever they are called) and find out exactly how many demerit points are posted against your license. The nice lady on the answer phone tells you which button to push to get the answer........

Davfff
14th August 2009, 10:37
I understand that you can ring up LTNZ (or whatever they are called) and find out exactly how many demerit points are posted against your license. The nice lady on the answer phone tells you which button to push to get the answer........

Yeah, but as you could understand, I don't exactly want to set the wheels in motion by perhaps coming across someone who's going to recognise the mistake and send someone out to collect my license :(

When I called the first time, it wasn't long after I went over the threshold, so the lady I spoke with probably didn't think anything was amiss. However, it's now in excess of 2-3 years since I should've had it taken from me and will probably be a bit more plain to see.

I did look on the LTSA website this morning, and the wording indicated that you "MAY" (exact word) have your license taken from you if you break 100 demerits. I thought this choice of wording was somewhat interesting.

BiK3RChiK
14th August 2009, 11:34
When I called the first time, it wasn't long after I went over the threshold, so the lady I spoke with probably didn't think anything was amiss. However, it's now in excess of 2-3 years since I should've had it taken from me and will probably be a bit more plain to see.

I did look on the LTSA website this morning, and the wording indicated that you "MAY" (exact word) have your license taken from you if you break 100 demerits. I thought this choice of wording was somewhat interesting.

Heh! Demerits expire after a 2 year period, so you'll be all good again;)

Davfff
14th August 2009, 11:48
Heh! Demerits expire after a 2 year period, so you'll be all good again;)

I had heard that, but I'd also heard the occassional rumour that after tipping over the 100 point mark, they remain in place until some kind of action is taken. However, an ex-flatmate of mine once exceeded 100 points for a couple of weeks after paying for a recently received ticket tipped him over the edge. Two or three weeks later, demerits from a ticket received just over 2 years prior were wiped off, taking him below 100 again. The short time between the two events may have played into his favour, though.

I stalked the LTSA website hoping for some kind of automated system for checking the current status, but alas, to no avail.

I guess I'm resigned to a life lived in license limbo (how's that for alliteration?) until I man up and call the LTSA, again.

BiK3RChiK
14th August 2009, 13:32
Did a quick search and here's what I found......

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/factsheets/50.html

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roadcode/about-driver-responsibility/stepping-over-the-line.html

hth, Mavis

Soul.Trader
14th August 2009, 13:40
Annoying if not because it wont take much to cop 20 more points and have another 3 months of bike polishing>:gob:


Have you ever considered not speeding/drink/running red lights? I know it's worked wonders for me, and I've never had trouble keeping my license squeaky clean.

Ron-Z
5th October 2009, 08:09
SoundZ like u need a `Slow learner' plate.:blink: I thought the Demerit points system was there to help u learn dem rulZ :bash:. So. . . if you still clocking them up.... then u still learning...:woohoo:

duckonin
5th October 2009, 08:17
well thats me stuffed then! gonna be hell to judge if the level gets dropped to 50mll. would be better at zero then at least you would know

Zero..keep it at that, then you do know where you are...:yes:

scumdog
5th October 2009, 16:36
Have you ever considered not speeding/drink/running red lights? I know it's worked wonders for me, and I've never had trouble keeping my license squeaky clean.

What a cunning idea, it'll never work on KB though..:(:shifty: