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Supertwin Don
28th July 2009, 02:10
I've just re-taxed my Guzzi for a year - it's cost me £66 - I earn about £450 take home per week - so that's about 15% of my weekly - when I get it MOT'd (read WOF) it costs me £38 per year (8.5%) - how does this compare with NZ?
Compulsory full insurance over here costs me about £160 per year - again how does that compare with NZ?

Please don't just start converting dollars to pounds - relate it to what sort of percentage of take home pay - that's a more realistic comparison.

I'm hoping to be back in NZ later this year, so I'm trying to work out what sort of salary I could live on:whistle:

YellowDog
28th July 2009, 06:27
IME - An annual UK take home pay of $450/week is equivelent to about $950 here for the same job.

BUT in general, living in NZ is a great deal cheaper and there is a lot of stuff you can do for free that costs a lot in the UK (apart from putting your garbage out and seeing a doctor).

FYI:

MOT/WOF = $28
12 month Rego $382
Annual insurance $700 per annum.

The 12 month registration costs more for motorcycles than for cars because there is a large ACC levie in there.

Fuel is presently at about $1.55 per litre, but changes regularly.

I am not sure that this is a good way to work out your salary requirement as general living expenses in NZ are a great deal less. I suggest that you take a look on www.trademe.co.nz to get an idea of rental proprerty costs in NZ.

Good luck.

dangerous
28th July 2009, 06:33
OHHHHH... dont get me started on farking rego, thanks to people that ride beyond their capibilitys 'etc' the acc levey is well OTT... but then again I think thats a bullshit excuse to scalp us for more money, I mean like go figger how my diesel narvara costs mor to regester than a petrol one :blink: Ohhh, I know theres more diesels on the rd so the gvt makes more, cos surley its not because diesels crash and petrols dont FFS :mellow:

does that answer ya question... wages differ so much here that equating income percentage to rego cost is kinda eralavent.

Nasty
28th July 2009, 06:35
I've just re-taxed my Guzzi for a year - it's cost me £66 - I earn about £450 take home per week - so that's about 15% of my weekly - when I get it MOT'd (read WOF) it costs me £38 per year (8.5%) - how does this compare with NZ?
Compulsory full insurance over here costs me about £160 per year - again how does that compare with NZ?

Please don't just start converting dollars to pounds - relate it to what sort of percentage of take home pay - that's a more realistic comparison.

I'm hoping to be back in NZ later this year, so I'm trying to work out what sort of salary I could live on:whistle:

Its difficult ot calculate as a percentage of pay - jobs here are worth totally different to jobs in the UK in a lot of ways. e.g. a friend worked in the UK for years as a programmer - earnt very good by the pound then came back and now earns what he did by the dollar as when he left. Way less even when converted.

NighthawkNZ
28th July 2009, 07:15
12 month Rego $382


I would ask for $60 back

my rego for the bike cost $321.24
$252.69 of that was ACC

that was dated 26/7/2009


As for wages... as they said they vary, and it depends where you love as to the cost of living... Im not on a huge wage, and actually I could earn more if I moved to ChCh, ie; I live in Dunedin I don't earn as much for the same job in Auckland, but the cost of living in Dunedin is cheaper in many respects

James Deuce
28th July 2009, 07:29
I would ask for $60 back

my rego for the bike cost $321.24
$252.69 of that was ACC

that was dated 26/7/2009



Yellowdog's rego quote is correct. You've somehow been very lucky. Rego went up at the start of this month.

skidMark
28th July 2009, 07:49
Yellowdog's rego quote is correct. You've somehow been very lucky. Rego went up at the start of this month.


Don't ya just love how they put our ACC levi's trough the roof because of dumbarse scooter riders getting fucked up with no gear.... or big bike riders in jeans a t shirt sneakers and no gloves... i'm not going into the "it's the riders choice" bullshit... because put simply they come off they get nailed and the rest of us have to foot the bill.

Supertwin Don
28th July 2009, 08:44
BUT in general, living in NZ is a great deal cheaper and there is a lot of stuff you can do for free that costs a lot in the UK (apart from putting your garbage out and seeing a doctor). to quote Yellowdog.



That leads nicely on the next question - I just paid £51 for a scale and polish at the dentist - how does that compare?

I know that the cost of living has so many variables depending on location/desires/necessities etc. - I'm trying to get a feel for the things I will HAVE to pay for when I get back.:soon:

Taz
28th July 2009, 09:15
Don't ya just love how they put our ACC levi's trough the roof because of dumbarse scooter riders getting fucked up with no gear.... or big bike riders in jeans a t shirt sneakers and no gloves... i'm not going into the "it's the riders choice" bullshit... because put simply they come off they get nailed and the rest of us have to foot the bill.

Or riders in all the right gear......... Have you had any acc claims?

mashman
28th July 2009, 09:25
BUT in general, living in NZ is a great deal cheaper and there is a lot of stuff you can do for free that costs a lot in the UK (apart from putting your garbage out and seeing a doctor). to quote Yellowdog.

That leads nicely on the next question - I just paid £51 for a scale and polish at the dentist - how does that compare?

I know that the cost of living has so many variables depending on location/desires/necessities etc. - I'm trying to get a feel for the things I will HAVE to pay for when I get back.:soon:

PAH! PAH! and a little more PAH! it ain't that much cheaper... Moved from Glasgow nearly 3 years ago... By our reckoning, eating out, food in general (although the meat isn't as good here, sorry!), Petrol/Diesel and car park spaces are about the only things i class as value for money here... but the quality of life is so much better...

Like you say, lost of variables and swings and roundabouts, all depends on what you want to buy...

I believe dentists are rather expensive here!!!

Disco Dan
28th July 2009, 09:32
I've just re-taxed my Guzzi for a year - it's cost me £66 - I earn about £450 take home per week - so that's about 15% of my weekly - when I get it MOT'd (read WOF) it costs me £38 per year (8.5%) - how does this compare with NZ?
Compulsory full insurance over here costs me about £160 per year - again how does that compare with NZ?

Please don't just start converting dollars to pounds - relate it to what sort of percentage of take home pay - that's a more realistic comparison.

I'm hoping to be back in NZ later this year, so I'm trying to work out what sort of salary I could live on:whistle:

Instead of comparing wages I have always found the best comparison for 'cost of living' is the price of tinned baked beans. Now about 11 years ago I remember being able to buy the budget brand of beans in Tesco for only 10p on special. Here your looking at about 80c on special. The cost of food/rent here is comparable to minimum wage - another good comparison to use. There is no real 'average' wage here - the unions stuffed that up.

marty
28th July 2009, 15:38
a 12 month rego is about 12% for me

YellowDog
28th July 2009, 16:16
PAH! PAH! and a little more PAH! it ain't that much cheaper... Moved from Glasgow nearly 3 years ago... By our reckoning, eating out, food in general (although the meat isn't as good here, sorry!), Petrol/Diesel and car park spaces are about the only things i class as value for money here... but the quality of life is so much better...

Like you say, lost of variables and swings and roundabouts, all depends on what you want to buy...

I believe dentists are rather expensive here!!!
The meat is better here however you are not allowed to buy it.

NZ has a "Reverse Frog Economy".

The French keep the good stuff for themselves and subsidise it so that all can afford it. They export the absolute crap, that is not good enough for the refined French pallet, to everyone else.

The Kiwis export the top quality good stuff as well as letting the expensive restaurants buy it. The natives are allowed to buy and eat the crap that is not fit for export however load this price so we all pay through the nose.

Go to Aussie and buy a some Kiwi meat and you will see what I mean. I have bought the good stuff here in NZ direct from an exporter in Hamilton. It has no comparison to what is available in the supermarkets.

Any farmers out there?

Max Preload
28th July 2009, 16:31
The Kiwis export the top quality good stuff as well as letting the expensive restaurants buy it. The natives are allowed to buy and eat the crap that is not fit for export however load this price so we all pay through the nose.

In fact, we even subsidise the exports of the good stuff...

Crazy Steve
28th July 2009, 16:35
Yellowdog's rego quote is correct. You've somehow been very lucky. Rego went up at the start of this month.

Are you sure ? ?

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/vehicle-ownership/licensing-fees.html

Looks like $321.24 to me from this site..

Crazy Steve.

Laxi
28th July 2009, 16:38
on the positive side a tattoo will cost you a third of what it will in a lot of countries:Punk::laugh:

Crazy Steve
28th July 2009, 16:40
a 12 month rego is about 12% for me

Marty if your taking home $2700 per week your being paid far tooo MUCH ! !

Crazy Steve.

NighthawkNZ
28th July 2009, 16:51
Yellowdog's rego quote is correct. You've somehow been very lucky. Rego went up at the start of this month.

I did it all online on the LTSA website http://transact.landtransport.govt.nz/

Sorry was paid on the 20/7/09 for the period of 26/7/2009 - 26/7/2010
But if it went up at the start of this month then I was lucky :Punk: :blink: (thats a first)

Crazy Steve
28th July 2009, 16:58
I did it all online on the LTSA website http://transact.landtransport.govt.nz/

Sorry was paid on the 20/7/09 for the period of 26/7/2009 - 26/7/2010
But if it went up at the start of this month then I was lucky :Punk: :blink: (thats a first)

The increase Rego to $321.24 started 01/07/2009...

You wern't lucky you paid the right amount.....

Crazy Steve.

NighthawkNZ
28th July 2009, 17:03
The increase Rego to $321.24 started 01/07/2009...

You wern't lucky you paid the right amount.....

Crazy Steve.

so its not going up to $380.00

Crazy Steve
28th July 2009, 17:05
Are you sure ? ?

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/vehicle-ownership/licensing-fees.html

Looks like $321.24 to me from this site..

Crazy Steve.

NighthawkNz.....Did you take a look at this link ?

Crazy Steve.

NighthawkNZ
28th July 2009, 17:08
NighthawkNz.....Did you take a look at this link ?

Crazy Steve.


opps I have now... :shutup: :done:

Rayray401
28th July 2009, 17:22
Well, we(nz) are on the arse of the world..dont have that many trading options....and i have no idea why acc levies have to keep rising just because retards on scooters/bikes that are too powerful for them get owned by the traffic..it should at least be spread out more to the community..:weird:

Jonno.
28th July 2009, 17:22
Why is my 150 $137 for 6 months...

Crazy Steve
28th July 2009, 17:24
Why is my 150 $137 for 6 months...

It won't be next time.....

Next time it will be $164.41 for 6mths.....

Crazy Steve.

Owl
28th July 2009, 17:33
so its not going up to $380.00

Not yet, but rest assured it will.:weep:

Rayray401
28th July 2009, 17:49
Not yet, but rest assured it will.:weep:

If it does......lets hope the einsteins in charge of ACCs would realise that it costs almost double for rego on a bike than on a car...and that they would (hopefully, wishingly) start lowering it...

dangerous
28th July 2009, 19:53
Don't ya just love how they put our ACC levi's trough the roof because of dumbarse scooter riders getting fucked up with no gear.... or big bike riders in jeans a t shirt sneakers and no gloves... i'm not going into the "it's the riders choice" bullshit... because put simply they come off they get nailed and the rest of us have to foot the bill.
Fark me dead... Im agreeing with you, best you ad the born agains and tooth past tube riders that cant ride for shit BUT hell they look good.


Or riders in all the right gear......... Have you had any acc claims? at least those guys make a attempt to keep acc levies down, and remember they would most likely be far worse off in dragons etc.

NO acc claims here (27yrs and over 300,000km's later)

idleidolidyll
28th July 2009, 20:00
OHHHHH... dont get me started on farking rego, thanks to people that ride beyond their capibilitys 'etc' the acc levey is well OTT... but then again I think thats a bullshit excuse to scalp us for more money, I mean like go figger how my diesel narvara costs mor to regester than a petrol one :blink: Ohhh, I know theres more diesels on the rd so the gvt makes more, cos surley its not because diesels crash and petrols dont FFS :mellow:

does that answer ya question... wages differ so much here that equating income percentage to rego cost is kinda eralavent.

oh the pain!

my diesel SUV costs more to reg than a motorbike and i've never crashed it, it's a 2006 with ESP and common rail using less diesel than my wifes 1600cc toymotor........why??!!!

as for expensive reg for bikes: that's got a great deal to do with farmers and MXers crashing unregistered bikes and going to the doc saying "I crashed my bike"

we pay in our reg to subsidise their hobby and job

Leyton
28th July 2009, 20:06
I do not mind the acc levy that much... its cheap insurance. I had full riding gear on and STILL required ACC treatment. I thank some scooter riders who pay for my repair who do not fall off!!

I do not think the argument is there :/, but yeah.. there is alot of plebs out their not taking precautions. Thats life :)

The only thing I do not think is fair is people coming off unregistered bikes and being covered by ACC..., I wonder what it would take to change the law on that ?

Mind you.. if they are not covered by ACC.. what happens ? ACC Still has to cover. Either way it is paid for out of the tax man, But it would be nice to humm scrape a little more out of jo blogs tax payer to pay for the non biker incidents and take the OTT'ness off the ACC Levy.

sil3nt
28th July 2009, 20:16
80% of my weeks pay for 12 months rego. Gotta love minimum wage!

Brian d marge
28th July 2009, 20:19
I've just re-taxed my Guzzi for a year - it's cost me £66 - I earn about £450 take home per week - so that's about 15% of my weekly - when I get it MOT'd (read WOF) it costs me £38 per year (8.5%) - how does this compare with NZ?
Compulsory full insurance over here costs me about £160 per year - again how does that compare with NZ?

Please don't just start converting dollars to pounds - relate it to what sort of percentage of take home pay - that's a more realistic comparison.

I'm hoping to be back in NZ later this year, so I'm trying to work out what sort of salary I could live on:whistle:

Not sure if anyone has actually answered you question, but heres how I looked at it
Your total running costs per year ( uk) were 66+38+160=264

264/12= 22/4 = 5.5 pound a week

5.5/450 =1.22% of your weekly

now say you earn the average wage in NZ 55 000???? ( a friend gets 700 take home as a computer jockey )

So 33?% tax 36 850 after tax roughly 767 a week after tax

321+700insurance+30wof =1051/12/4=$22 a week = 2.87%

nearly 2 and 1/3 times more expensive in NZ


Stephen

Stand to be corrected on the average take home and wof , and insurance prices

Leyton
28th July 2009, 20:19
80% of my weeks pay for 12 months rego. Gotta love minimum wage!

Yikes!

Coming on the LOR ride with the Uylisess this Sunday dude ?

sil3nt
28th July 2009, 20:59
Yikes!

Coming on the LOR ride with the Uylisess this Sunday dude ?I won't be riding anywhere anytime soon. Need to save a bit of cash.

Leyton
28th July 2009, 21:09
I won't be riding anywhere anytime soon. Need to save a bit of cash.

Poo's! All good due :)

Leyton
28th July 2009, 21:11
Not sure if anyone has actually answered you question, but heres how I looked at it
Your total running costs per year ( uk) were 66+38+160=264

264/12= 22/4 = 5.5 pound a week

5.5/450 =1.22% of your weekly

now say you earn the average wage in NZ 55 000???? ( a friend gets 700 take home as a computer jockey )

So 33?% tax 36 850 after tax roughly 767 a week after tax

321+700insurance+30wof =1051/12/4=$22 a week = 2.87%

nearly 2 and 1/3 times more expensive in NZ


Stephen

Stand to be corrected on the average take home and wof , and insurance prices

Thats some serious crunching dude!!! Well done, and YIKES!! I might put aside $44 of my pay a fortnight to ride my bike, shit, never thought it cost that much!

Oh yeah my insurance is more like $1300 :/

YellowDog
28th July 2009, 21:59
The increase Rego to $321.24 started 01/07/2009...

You wern't lucky you paid the right amount.....

Crazy Steve.
I paid mine from this page:

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/vehicle-ownership/registration.html

$382.67

Looks like I have been screwed.

marty
28th July 2009, 22:50
Marty if your taking home $2700 per week your being paid far tooo MUCH ! !

Crazy Steve.


I'm currently looking at an option in one of the 'stan' countries.

US$500/day when working.

Plus, US$1000/day every day you're there (or alive...)

Doing what I'm doing now, just out in the sand.

What recession?

NighthawkNZ
28th July 2009, 23:08
at least those guys make a attempt to keep acc levies down, and remember they would most likely be far worse off in dragons etc.

NO acc claims here (27yrs and over 300,000km's later)

same... errr wait 25 years... you old bugga you

Max Preload
29th July 2009, 00:21
I paid mine from this page:

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/vehicle-ownership/registration.html

$382.67

Looks like I have been screwed.

That's registration, not re-licensing...