Sickened by H-D group riders' actions on Sunday

[R1madness]

I was out riding with a group of mates on sunday when i came across a Subaru that had just crashed. I stopped (like all real bikers do) to check wether they were ok and got a storm of abuse from the driver. They had just been forced off the road by a group of HDs that had come around the bend trying to pass a van (it was a sweepy open s bend that you could almost see right thru but not quite) and ran them off the road. The driver took his and his passengers life into his hands and missed the bikers by taking to the cheese cutter barrier. The car went thru the barrier and part way down a bank. I took the oppertunity to thank him sinceerly for not killing the idiots that put their life at risk. Let me tell ya they were not happy. Their car is totaled. They were shaken badly but not injured.

If you were part of this group of HD riders that left the PEG hotel in belfast about 11.30am on Sunday you should get your arse down to the local police and put your hand up. You still have time before your 24 hours runs out (yes i know it was more than 24 hours ago but the cop investigating the accident will give you leeway if you confess your involvement) and you get charged with leaving the scene of an accident, failing to check for injurys, failing to stop, and anything else they can think of. Unfortunately for you lot there is video evedance of your group (not taken by us) and it shows number plates clearly. The police were informed by the car driver and a witness that saw the car get run off the road. MAN UP and do the right thing!!!!!!!!!
I am disgusted by you!

[peasea]

So, tell me; what makes your GSXR 1000 'the meanest on the block'?

[R1madness]

So, tell me; what makes your GSXR 1000 'the meanest on the block'?

The fact it won a NZ production superbike championship in its current form. Ride it if you dare. :Punk:

[peasea]

The fact it won a NZ production superbike championship in its current form. Ride it if you dare. :Punk:

Good on ya, and no thanks.

[MadDuck]

Of course sprotbike riders would never ever ever be so irresponsible to do such a thing.

[Subike]

Was this the incident that happened on the north side of the Omahi Saddle 4 k's south of Greta Valley?

[Finn]

I'd say your Subaru driver is telling porkies to try and cover up some dumb driving on his part.

Us Harley riders are generally more considerate as we are well aware of the carnage our bikes can inflict on cars and small villages.

[onearmedbandit]

Of course sprotbike riders would never ever ever be so irresponsible to do such a thing.

What's that got to do with the price of shit?

[Mom]

Did you take pics of the car having gone through the cheese cutter?

[peasea]

What's that got to do with the price of shit?

You PAY for shit???

[Sparky Bills]

Us Harley riders are generally more considerate



BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

CLASSIC!! :jerry:

[R1madness]

Of course sprotbike riders would never ever ever be so irresponsible to do such a thing.

No sports bikers involved. only HD riders. The sport bike riders stopped to see if they could help. The hd riders did not. Whats your point????

[Bleck K6]

HAHAHA this is cool, now that I own a sportbike & a V Rod I can just sit back & laugh at these funny domestics.

[R1madness]

Was this the incident that happened on the north side of the Omahi Saddle 4 k's south of Greta Valley?

Um it was on the north side of a hill with the car heading south but i am not from canterbury so still learning my geography.

[AllanB]

Eh - I don't get it.

If it happened as described by the author (and if there is video evidence) how come he's getting stick on here?

Irrelevant what anyone rides in this story other than it sounds like a group spin for the HD boys (very common in Canterbury - they actually ride them :Punk:)

Sounds like a crappy pack riding mentality too me.

I've seen plenty of this around CHCH and environs on all types of bikes.

I guess the Subaru driver will just run the fuckers down next time?

Just my 2c worth ...........

[AllanB]

Kind of pays to remember that your business is represented in each of your posts when engaging in a KB slagging match ..................

Possibly not the type of company image one is after?

4c worth now.

[Subike]

Um it was on the north side of a hill with the car heading south but i am not from canterbury so still learning my geography.

I drive past that spot every day, I live 2 k's from there. I am saddened that the incident involved riders of any discription. There was a lot of bike traffic on that road over the weekend, I would put the numbers of bikes that past through the valley being in the hundreds. Its a poor advertisement for us all when this happens. I hope the persons involved have the fortitude to raise their hands and be responsibile for their actions, not be cowards trying to hide.

[Molly]

At the weekend I stopped (on my Harley) to help a broken down biker (on some old Honda). A bloke on, maybe, a new-looking GSXR / R1 ish bike had already stopped but you never know when you might be able to help (even if it was just to loan a mobile phone). Anyway, I was all but f'kin' ignored when I offered to help so after an uncomfortable pause said 'So, you don't need any help then?' Mr R1 peered up to say no so I fucked off and left them without getting so much as a 'Thanks for stopping'. Had I just ridden past I'm sure I'd have been condemned for that too. What is it with some ignorant f'kin' people?

As for the group of Harley riders that set off from Belfast, maybe it was a HOG ride out? Might be worth asking Rolling Thunder. My missus once dropped her Sportster at Hororata on some gravel. The local 'HOG boys' just watched and did fuck all to help her pick the bike up.

[laRIKin]

I drive past that spot every day, I live 2 k's from there. I am saddened that the incident involved riders of any discription. There was a lot of bike traffic on that road over the weekend, I would put the numbers of bikes that past through the valley being in the hundreds. Its a poor advertisement for us all when this happens. I hope the persons involved have the fortitude to raise their hands and be responsibile for their actions, not be cowards trying to hide.


I was riding TEC in our group and the first lot of HD riders over took with care.
We gave them room and they filtered though with no problems.
But the mid to back group just pushed their way though.
All but the last guy who was riding his own ride and maybe was not with them.

Here is a pic so you can see where it happened.

[Subike]

I was riding TEC in our group and the first lot of HD riders over took with care.
We gave them room and they filtered though with no problems.
But the mid to back group just pushed their way though.
All but the last guy who was riding his own ride and maybe was not with them.

Here is a pic so you can see where it happened.

Yeap The posta are still sorta flat and there are cones marking the spot. The tyre marks down the hill are still there too. T

[owner]

Hang on..... There is a hill??? and a corner in christchurch!?????

Holy shit!!! its only 45mins away, I'm off. Bye

[sinfull]

Here is a pic so you can see where it happened.
Could drive a truck between two cars down that road why did the guy run into the wire ? Or did he panic ?
Thing that gets me is the footage the OP says is there of the group of riders and their number plates, where was that taken ? At the scene while they caused this horrible incident, or was it taken at the hotel where they allegidly came from ?
No prosecution will come from it !!

[Leyton]

hang on..... There is a hill??? And a corner in christchurch!?????

Holy shit!!! Its only 45mins away, i'm off. Bye

lol.............

[laRIKin]

Yeap The posta are still sorta flat and there are cones marking the spot. The tyre marks down the hill are still there too. T

Yip it was a sad day to admit to riding bikes.:argh:

[laRIKin]

Could drive a truck between two cars down that road why did the guy run into the wire ? Or did he panic ?
Thing that gets me is the footage the OP says is there of the group of riders and their number plates, where was that taken ? At the scene while they caused this horrible incident, or was it taken at the hotel where they allegidly came from ?
No prosecution will come from it !!


I did not see it happen and was waved on by the rest of the group as I was playing TEC at the time.
Must say when I came around the corner I thought the worst.
With bike's and car's every where.

Like I said the front group of HD riders were good, when they over took us.
One at a time with care.
The mid to back group over took as a group and took over most of the road.
And pushed their way though and around.

Now I did not see the crash so do not know how they were riding then.
And can only comment on how they over took us. (Like dickheads)

[Babelfish]

What was a car doing on the fecking road anyway??!! Boo frickin hiss. And I hope he was in awe of being the presence of such a marvelous bike...did he ask for an autograph??? (I hear "X" works too) :shutup:

Shite happens, there are dumbass bikers out there as well as dumbass cagers, how sad, never mind, moving right along now. <_<

...now about that cheese grater that didnt stop them....:shifty:

[R1madness]

yep you are right the footage is not from the scene but lets face it, the feds know who they are and will take any oppertunity to nail their rides from now on. We had a good thing goin where the cops would let us be a little irresponcable and turn a blind eye but not any more. Now they are actively lookin for 2 wheel targets on this stretch of road.

[laRIKin]

Now they are actively lookin for 2 wheel targets on this stretch of road.

Never a truer word spoken.
I was getting blips on my radar on and off, most of the way home.
Could not see them, but they were there all right.

[R1madness]

What was a car doing on the fecking road anyway??!! Boo frickin hiss. And I hope he was in awe of being the presence of such a marvelous bike...did he ask for an autograph??? (I hear "X" works too) :shutup:

Shite happens, there are dumbass bikers out there as well as dumbass cagers, how sad, never mind, moving right along now. <_<

...now about that cheese grater that didnt stop them....:shifty:

yes the cheese grater did a good job in wrecking the car but a crap job at keeping it in the safe zone.

[Ixion]

The roads would be a damn sight safer if those dangerous contraptions were just banned outright.

[Subike]

What was a car doing on the fecking road anyway??!! Boo frickin hiss. And I hope he was in awe of being the presence of such ...did he ask for an autograph??? (I hear "X" works too) :shutup:

Shite happens, there are dumbass bikers out there as well as , how sad, never mind, moving right along now. <_<

...now about that cheese grater that didnt stop them....:shifty:

so you would rather that the "dumbass cager" did not take evasive action to avoid hitting the group of bikes and to plough into the bunch , possibly killing and at least injuring a few riders, But this "dumbass cager: decided to try his luck with the cheese cutter and survived with only damage to his car, not blood and guts everywhere. I guess this "dumbass cager" should not have got out of bed on Suday morning to have to deal with those brilliant riders

[MIXONE]

The roads would be a damn sight safer if those dangerous contraptions were just banned outright.

Harleys or suburus?

[Subike]

Harleys or suburus?

cheese cutters

[Ixion]

Eh? What? No, cages, of course.

[FJRider]

Eh? What? No, cages, of course.

Then all we'd have to bag would be honda's and Harleys .... lol... :shutup:

[rosie631]

If you were part of this group of HD riders that left the PEG hotel in belfast about 11.30am on Sunday you should get your arse down to the local police and put your hand up. You still have time before your 24 hours runs out (yes i know it was more than 24 hours ago but the cop investigating the accident will give you leeway if you confess your involvement) and you get charged with leaving the scene of an accident, failing to check for injurys, failing to stop, and anything else they can think of. Unfortunately for you lot there is video evedance of your group (not taken by us) and it shows number plates clearly.

Not being an arse, but just wondering how do you know it was this group that was involved? Surely there were lots of groups riding on Sunday.

[R1madness]

Not being an arse, but just wondering how do you know it was this group that was involved? Surely there were lots of groups riding on Sunday.

Its a timing thing. Based on the distances, general speeds, number of bikes, discriptions of the bikes involved, etc. Yes you could say its purely circumstantual but no other group of bikes fitted the discription and timing of the incident. We were less than 2 minutes behind the said group at this stage and no other bikes had come thru between them and us.

[R1madness]

look i am no policeman and have often broken the law but you wont hear me wineing about it when i get caught. And in this instance i think they should have stopped and seen if anyone was injured and taken the rap for it. Thats all.

[R1madness]

boomer????

[Solly]

Hang on..... There is a hill??? and a corner in christchurch!?????

Holy shit!!! its only 45mins away, I'm off. Bye

:lol::lol::lol:

+1

[dangerous]

I was out riding with a group of mates on sunday when i came across a Subaru that had just crashed. I stopped (like all real bikers do) to check wether they were ok and got a storm of abuse from the driver. They had just been forced off the road by a group of HDs that had come around the bend trying to pass a van


As for the group of Harley riders that set off from Belfast, maybe it was a HOG ride out? Might be worth asking Rolling Thunder. My missus once dropped her Sportster at Hororata on some gravel. The local 'HOG boys' just watched and did fuck all to help her pick the bike up.

good on ya R1 for making a din... anyone remember my thread re: 'our own worst enemy' well that was due to a ride leaving rolling thunder... a high percentage riding like cocks being in the pack menality.


Of course sprotbike riders would never ever ever be so irresponsible to do such a thing.
Let me asure you had it been sports bikes not HD's R1 would still have posted the same, and as far as I know the group R1 was with was a mix of crusers and sport bikes, a darft post MD.

ps: larkin, I intend NO offence by this post.

[dmouse]

there would of been at least two group rides from Christchurch on sunday, the HOG group and the harley rebel group, i am not sure who went where, as i was not on either ride,( im a hog rider with swine flu ??)

i hope they have the guts to fess up to it, as bikers get the raw deal most of the time. and its all of us that will have to suffer for a few pillocks, that think they own the road. it was a really nice day for a run and i dont understand why everyone has to ride like an idiot to the next latte or pub it just dont make sense to me ??

and as to some of the stupid remarks from other kb`ers your no better than the idiots that caused the problem, i take my helmet off to R1 for pointing this out.

[R1madness]

I am not pointing the finger at any one group. I dont know who they were either. Thats not really what this is about. I think that as road users we are responcable not only for our own safty but that of others. If there is an accident surely you should do everything you can to help even (especially?) if it was caused by you? Or in this age of road rage and weapons is it simply safer to keep going? I guess it comes down to personal choices. For me though the answer is simple... always try to help, life has a strange way of catching up with you if you dont. Some people call it karma, others fate, some luck, others life but in the end it pays you back pure and simple...

[lb99]

I am not pointing the finger at any one group. I dont know who they were either. Thats not really what this is about. I think that as road users we are responcable not only for our own safty but that of others. If there is an accident surely you should do everything you can to help even (especially?) if it was caused by you? Or in this age of road rage and weapons is it simply safer to keep going? I guess it comes down to personal choices. For me though the answer is simple... always try to help, life has a strange way of catching up with you if you dont. Some people call it karma, others fate, some luck, others life but in the end it pays you back pure and simple...

hey, maybe it was the mad dog gang.

[R1madness]

interesting. Thats a long time ago mate.....

[SixPackBack]

I am not pointing the finger at any one group. I dont know who they were either. Thats not really what this is about. I think that as road users we are responcable not only for our own safty but that of others. If there is an accident surely you should do everything you can to help even (especially?) if it was caused by you? Or in this age of road rage and weapons is it simply safer to keep going? I guess it comes down to personal choices. For me though the answer is simple... always try to help, life has a strange way of catching up with you if you dont. Some people call it karma, others fate, some luck, others life but in the end it pays you back pure and simple...

Flapping your arms and grandstanding over hear say and conjecture is a waste of time..........you want some attention huh?<_<

[SilverGrin]

I am not pointing the finger at any one group. I dont know who they were either. Thats not really what this is about.

Your title contained the words 'HD riders', so intentional or not, the thread sits in judgment of all HD riders, and inevitably, it's exactly what this is now about.

If just a single Harley in the offending bunch had passed the Subaru, then I would guess that it would be very easy for an excited, rattled driver to call 'Harley riders'.

Perhaps it would have been less ingenuous to name the thread 'Sickened by motorcycle riders' actions on sunday'?

[CookMySock]

Us Harley riders are generally more considerate as we are well aware of the carnage our bikes can inflict on cars and small villages.Yeah right. There are very few kiwis who have never been interfered with in some way by a pack or ten or more cruiser riders taking the whole fucking road.

I was on a learner ride a year ago, and a pack of thirty of the faggots crossed the centerline at us and frightened the living fuck out of the learners. How the hell we didn't end up with a fatality is beyond me.

This is EXACTLY why the govt is trying to legislate against gangs - because their feelings, rights, and freedoms are paramount to them, while everyone elses' are irrelevant.

Packs of asshole cruisers who do this get everything they fucking deserve, and the next one that intentionally crosses the centreline at my hilux will have a bad fright.

Grow the fuck up.

Steve

[SilverGrin]

Yeah right. There are very few kiwis who have never been interfered with in some way by a pack or ten or more cruiser riders taking the whole fucking road.

Ahh, only cruisers ay? - The bastards. Incidentally, it's never happened to me, does that make me a 1%er?



This is EXACTLY why the govt is trying to legislate against gangs - because their feelings, rights, and freedoms are paramount to them, while everyone elses' are irrelevant.

:blink:



Packs of asshole cruisers who do this get everything they fucking deserve, and the next one that intentionally crosses the centreline at my hilux will have a bad fright.

Grow the fuck up.

Steve

:wacko:

Your irony is giving your rationality a run for its money.

[Finn]

Yeah right. There are very few kiwis who have never been interfered with in some way by a pack or ten or more cruiser riders taking the whole fucking road.

I was on a learner ride a year ago, and a pack of thirty of the faggots crossed the centerline at us and frightened the living fuck out of the learners. How the hell we didn't end up with a fatality is beyond me.

This is EXACTLY why the govt is trying to legislate against gangs - because their feelings, rights, and freedoms are paramount to them, while everyone elses' are irrelevant.

Packs of asshole cruisers who do this get everything they fucking deserve, and the next one that intentionally crosses the centreline at my hilux will have a bad fright.

Grow the fuck up.

Steve

My god, you must be the dumbest person on KB. Now that's quite an achievement when sharing this place with the likes of Short Circuit, Rainman & Idlex3.

Congratulations!

P.S. Putting aside your gross stupidity for a moment... just an observation. I understand the requirements for motorcycle licensing in that during the restricted process you are limited to 250cc. Fine. So you're new to biking and don't know much. We're okay with that. You go and buy a Hyosung 250cc. Soon you find that other bikers think there's something wrong with you. They laugh at you and tell jokes at your expense. But then you do something that's makes jaws drop when you get your full license... You go and buy a 650cc Hyosung. Confirmed, you are indeed stupid.

[sunhuntin]

This is EXACTLY why the govt is trying to legislate against gangs - because their feelings, rights, and freedoms are paramount to them, while everyone elses' are irrelevant.


since when does a group of harleys always equal gang?

[R1madness]

Your title contained the words 'HD riders', so intentional or not, the thread sits in judgment of all HD riders, and inevitably, it's exactly what this is now about.

If just a single Harley in the offending bunch had passed the Subaru, then I would guess that it would be very easy for an excited, rattled driver to call 'Harley riders'.

Perhaps it would have been less ingenuous to name the thread 'Sickened by motorcycle riders' actions on sunday'?

NONONONO you misunderstand all together. I said a HD group ride because it was a group of HDs on a ride. i did not spacificly say the HOG group or the Rebels or any other branch of orginisation club or gang.

[Finn]

NONONONO you misunderstand all together. I said a HD group ride because it was a group of HDs on a ride. i did not spacificly say the HOG group or the Rebels or any other branch of orginisation club or gang.

Careful or you'll be joining the ranks of DangerousBastard as KB's biggest dumbarse.

[nallac]

My god, you must be the dumbest person on KB. Now that's quite an achievement when sharing this place with the likes of Short Circuit, Rainman & Idlex3.

Congratulations!

P.S. Putting aside your gross stupidity for a moment... just an observation. I understand the requirements for motorcycle licensing in that during the restricted process you are limited to 250cc. Fine. So you're new to biking and don't know much. We're okay with that. You go and buy a Hyosung 250cc. Soon you find that other bikers think there's something wrong with you. They laugh at you and tell jokes at your expense. But then you do something that's makes jaws drop when you get your full license... You go and buy a 650cc Hyosung. Confirmed, you are indeed stupid.

Lmao,....Must spread rep.....

[SilverGrin]

NONONONO you misunderstand all together. I said a HD group ride because it was a group of HDs on a ride. i did not spacificly say the HOG group or the Rebels or any other branch of orginisation club or gang.

Actually I understood your original post fine and have no issue with it at all, but the title has now stirred the feral attitudes of some posters here so much that I have privately been told I should 'stay on my side of the fucking road or wear a hilux'.

A dangerous bastard indeed.

[grubby52]

Hi sorry to hear this happened we riders have hard enough job keeping a good name for our selfs without this shit going on , the group I was with on Sunday left the peg at 11.30 but we went inland there were 4 HDs with with us, but there were a bunch left just before 11.00 I heard.

[modboy]

After reading the majority of this thread I can only really ask one question - how can a group of hds run a subaru off the road without putting themselves in considerable danger.

If the sub driver just held his line on the road, did nothing surprising and maintained his speed he'd have been fine. Sounds like there might be another side to this story.

I'd be a bit hesitant to jump to the defence of some boyracers in a subaru over an organised HOG ride... Just my $0.02 worth.

(fair enough, maybe they weren't boyracers - I was being inflammatory there haha).

But... just sounds like bad driving to me.

[Shaun S]

Grow the fuck up.Woo dude, you are taking yourself way too seriously.:shit:

Can you distinguish between a serious post and one said in jest?

Your over reaction to Finn’s post, was not even in orbit of planet rational, it was that off the mark…. No wonder people laugh at you mate! Calm down, breathe, count to ten then engage your typing hand!

[HenryDorsetCase]

P.S. Putting aside your gross stupidity for a moment... just an observation. I understand the requirements for motorcycle licensing in that during the restricted process you are limited to 250cc. Fine. So you're new to biking and don't know much. We're okay with that. You go and buy a Hyosung 250cc. Soon you find that other bikers think there's something wrong with you. They laugh at you and tell jokes at your expense. But then you do something that's makes jaws drop when you get your full license... You go and buy a 650cc Hyosung. Confirmed, you are indeed stupid.

Apparently I must spread.... etc.

I owe you a beer, I really do.

[oldrider]

A Subaru driver has an accident and blames a group of motorcyclists for his demise...Tui moment!

A (sprotbike) motorcyclist stops to help, Subaru driver blames Harley riders for accident.

Sprotbike rider with an attitude ceases the chance to rubbish Harley riders and posts on KB.

KB factions tear themselves apart on the basis of the word of an errant Subaru driver and a srotbike rider with an itch about Harley riders!

Subaru driver is now as convinced as Clayton Weatherston that it was not "his" fault.

KB is now as divided as the whole of the Arab nations and the rest of the world hates motorcycles even more than ever!

Post the evidence or forget about it.

Meanwhile, what has happened to Katman, he should be here by now! :confused:

[Big Dave]

A Subaru driver has an accident and blames a group of motorcyclists for his demise

What he said.

[Finn]

Meanwhile, what has happened to Katman, he should be here by now! :confused:

He's busy getting his Subaru fixed.

[boomer]

A Subaru driver has an accident and blames a group of motorcyclists for his demise...Tui moment!

A (sprotbike) motorcyclist stops to help, Subaru driver blames Harley riders for accident.

Sprotbike rider with an attitude ceases the chance to rubbish Harley riders and posts on KB.

KB factions tear themselves apart on the basis of the word of an errant Subaru driver and a srotbike rider with an itch about Harley riders!

Subaru driver is now as convinced as Clayton Weatherston that it was not "his" fault.

KB is now as divided as the whole of the Arab nations and the rest of the world hates motorcycles even more than ever!

Post the evidence or forget about it.

Meanwhile, what has happened to Katman, he should be here by now! :confused:


i lawled so hard the cat woke up

[Kickaha]

If the sub driver just held his line on the road, did nothing surprising and maintained his speed he'd have been fine.

Or maybe there would have been a bunch of dead HD riders and we'd all be talking about cagers killing motorcyclist and blaming him for the accident


But... just sounds like bad driving to me.

Sounds more like shit riding forcing a car driver to take evasive action or take a bunch of bikes out


A Subaru driver has an accident and blames a group of motorcyclists for his demise...Tui moment! :

I don't have enough fingers on both hands to count the number of times in a decade or two of driving that I have had to take evasive action to avoid having a fuckwit on a motorcycle pulling a dumb passing move ending up as a hood ornament

but yeah lets always blame the car driver we all know motorcyclist can do no wrong

[SDU]

All I can say is a big:2thumbsup to R1 & those out off our group that stopped to help the poor driver, hopefully the driver will not hate all motorcyclists because off this.

[onearmedbandit]

Or maybe there would have been a bunch of dead HD riders and we'd all be talking about cagers killing motorcyclist and blaming him for the accident



Sounds more like shit riding forcing a car driver to take evasive action or take a bunch of bikes out



I don't have enough fingers on both hands to count the number of times in a decade or two of driving that I have had to take evasive action to avoid having a fuckwit on a motorcycle pulling a dumb passing move ending up as a hood ornament

but yeah lets always blame the car driver we all know motorcyclist can do no wrong

Agree with you there Kickaha.

Some people in this thread need to be not so sensitive....

[SPman]

Or maybe there would have been a bunch of dead HD riders and we'd all be talking about cagers killing motorcyclist and blaming him for the accident

Sounds more like shit riding forcing a car driver to take evasive action or take a bunch of bikes out

I don't have enough fingers on both hands to count the number of times in a decade or two of driving that I have had to take evasive action to avoid having a fuckwit on a motorcycle pulling a dumb passing move ending up as a hood ornament

but yeah lets always blame the car driver we all know motorcyclist can do no wrong
But....never let the facts get in the way of a KB rant........

[dmouse]

I am not pointing the finger at any one group. I dont know who they were either. Thats not really what this is about. I think that as road users we are responcable not only for our own safty but that of others. If there is an accident surely you should do everything you can to help even (especially?) if it was caused by you? Or in this age of road rage and weapons is it simply safer to keep going? I guess it comes down to personal choices. For me though the answer is simple... always try to help, life has a strange way of catching up with you if you dont. Some people call it karma, others fate, some luck, others life but in the end it pays you back pure and simple...

yep i agree with you there on stopping, but i had a really bad off in 2004 (sunstrike) the bike landed in my chest bust all my ribs, and cut my spleen in two damaged my liver and bladder, and this was in rush hour traffic my feet was still on the road, and my bike was spinning round in circles (Triumph tr6r) there were plenty of rubber neckers but not one stopped, i was out cold for ?? i do not know how long, i had to get up and stop my bike, pick it up, a few really painfull attemps at starting it as it flooded, got it going and managed to ride approx 25 to 30 k`s to get back home for help, i was all over the road doing about 20k`s even passed a copper sat in his car with a radar zapping traffic, and he never stopped me to find out what was wrong, then to top it all off i got to hospital and the bastards left me in a corridor in A&E for six hours ??, and when they opened me up i had two thirds of my blood in my chest cavity.i still ride ( now a hd ) as the bike is my only transport, but i am left with severe problems, mentaly and physicaly i am on morphine for pain plus other meds, it takes me a couple of hours to get my head clear when i get up, so i now miss all the club rides out of Christchuch. and yes i do stop when i see some one sat at the side of the road, and i dont just mean bikes i have helped out cages as well, picked up gas a few times for them.

and the cops reckon no one stopped to help me coz i was in jeans boots and a black leather jacket, mistook me for a gang member it just dont figure but i hold no grudges, life is too short for that shit

[Babelfish]

so you would rather that the "dumbass cager" did not take evasive action to avoid hitting the group of bikes and to plough into the bunch , possibly killing and at least injuring a few riders, But this "dumbass cager: decided to try his luck with the cheese cutter and survived with only damage to his car, not blood and guts everywhere. I guess this "dumbass cager" should not have got out of bed on Suday morning to have to deal with those brilliant riders

:blink: What? Actually, yeah, I would have prefered the both dumbasses removed from my road. Have you seen anyone about your " usage issues?

[dangerous]

ASprotbike rider with an attitude ceases the chance to rubbish Harley riders and posts on KB. FYI... I believe R1 has been riding a Hogley of late himself... so WRONG (correct me if I m wrong)

ps: funny as post old dude




After reading the majority of this thread I can only really ask one question - how can a group of hds run a subaru off the road without putting themselves in considerable danger.

If the sub driver just held his line on the road, did nothing surprising and maintained his speed he'd have been fine. Sounds like there might be another side to this story.
I tend to agree.. its not like the chees grater is on the fog line :blink:



Your title contained the words 'HD riders', so intentional or not, the thread sits in judgment of all HD riders, and inevitably, it's exactly what this is now about.

YEAH... so what tomorow it will be about a group of solex riders, if people want to put 'all' HDer's in one basket then so be it, that be their problem if they choose to take exception to it.

In this case it was HD's what would the do gooders of KB like us to call them? 'exhibit Y' and FWIW there is a group of riders local to us that ride HD and Triumps that are born againer's... they ride like shit so please understand were some may be comming from, again I refer to my "our own worst enemy" thread were I was ridacalled for sayin Harley and Triumph... when I should have said 'bikes' even tho they were HD and Trumphs.



Actually I understood your original post fine and have no issue with it at all, but the title has now stirred the feral attitudes of some posters here so much that I have privately been told I should 'stay on my side of the fucking road or wear a hilux'.

A dangerous bastard indeed.
and you problem is what? simple dont cross the farking center line... learn to ride instead ;) hey now DB, was using that as an example you know that, so dont take it personaly man.

[peasea]

I would have to say that it really makes no odds what bikes people are riding if they 'cause' an accident. If you do something stupid on a motorcycle you are not only a danger to Joe Public but primarily you're a danger to yourself, ergo; a fuckwit.

Regardless of the type of machine those people were astride, if (IF!) they caused the driver to crash then they deserve to suffer the consequences.

However, who is to say the driver didn't just 'freak out' when a handful of (very likely loud) V-Twins came rumbling past? If the gap they were aiming for was a bit tight they would have been on-throttle and may very well have swung left just as their rear tyre cleared the front of the automobile.

Who hasn't done that? ("Let he who is whithout sin.." etc etc.)

[dangerous]

Who hasn't done that? ("Let he who is whithout sin.." etc etc.)
me... cos unlike your bigis blockus, my bike handles hahaha :shifty:
na all I wana know is how the hell did the cage bust down a cheese grater, I thought they were the mutts nutts... I'd like to see a pic of the sub, cos just emagine if it was a bike and rider going through that there farking greater :mellow:

[peasea]

my bike handles

Your bike has handles? I bet it's got trainer wheels too.

[laRIKin]

However, who is to say the driver didn't just 'freak out' when a handful of (very likely loud) V-Twins came rumbling past? If the gap they were aiming for was a bit tight they would have been on-throttle and may very well have swung left just as their rear tyre cleared the front of the automobile.

I think you may have misunderstood.
They were not passing the car.
They were heading towards it.
It could have been a very nasty head on, with many people getting hurt or killed.

[98tls]

However, who is to say the driver didn't just 'freak out' when a handful of (very likely loud) V-Twins came rumbling past? Yep imagine it "potato potato potato potato" scary as fuck.:blink:

[peasea]

Yep imagine it "potato potato potato potato" scary as fuck.:blink:

....and no peeler in the picnic hamper!

[peasea]

I think you may have misunderstood.
They were not passing the car.
They were heading towards it.
It could have been a very nasty head on, with many people getting hurt or killed.

Ok, I stand corrected on that. My apologies.

Whatever happened it sounds like SOMEONE fucked up.

[MadDuck]

Yep imagine it "potato potato potato potato" scary as fuck.:blink:

Yeah the idea of deciding whether to have bacon or sour cream with that must have been immense.

[98tls]

Yeah the idea of deciding whether to have bacon or sour cream with that must have been immense. Explains it all then eh,afore mentioned Subaru driver should have eaten before driving so as not to be distracted by such choices.:mellow:

[peasea]

Well, lookie here; twelve viewers on Hogs and other cruisers; I think that's a record and all because of a bent Subaru. Is that irony or what?

[MadDuck]

Well, lookie here; twelve viewers on Hogs and other cruisers; I think that's a record and all because of a bent Subaru. Is that irony or what?

I am thinking is called "having the mind of a pea".

The sprotbike riders obviously dont think too much given the red I got. Give it but dont like getting it back.

[peasea]

I am thinking is called "having the mind of a pea".

The sprotbike riders obviously dont think too much given the red I got. Give it but dont like getting it back.

Sportsbike riders? Who gives a fuck? They're all wankers anyway, wouldn't know class if it rocked up and fucked them up the arse. (Which they'd probably enjoy anyway, so oxymorons aplenty eh?)

Sportsbike riders are always in such a rush to get somewhere, probably coz they don't like being where they are; me? I'm happy to kick back and enjoy the ride coz I'm already where I wanna be. They don't seem to understand that. :whocares:

[98tls]

Well, lookie here; twelve viewers on Hogs and other cruisers; I think that's a record and all because of a bent Subaru. Is that irony or what? :shutup:Rushing off to delete posts.:laugh:

[peasea]

:shutup:Rushing off to delete posts.:laugh:

I'm surprised you haven't ridden into one!

[MadDuck]

:shutup:Rushing off to delete posts.:laugh:

Tooooo late now MR! Quotes stay.

[98tls]

Sportsbike riders? Who gives a fuck? They're all wankers anyway, wouldn't know class if it rocked up and fucked them up the arse. (Which they'd probably enjoy anyway, so oxymorons aplenty eh?)

Sportsbike riders are always in such a rush to get somewhere, probably coz they don't like being where they are; me? I'm happy to kick back and enjoy the ride coz I'm already where I wanna be. They don't seem to understand that. :whocares: Oi,some of us are just to old to straighten our backs so we have no choice but to ride sprotbikes:blink:Then again mine so old its more cruiser than anything else,by todays standards anyway.:shutup:

[MadDuck]

Sportsbike riders? Who gives a fuck? They're all wankers anyway, wouldn't know class if it rocked up and fucked them up the arse. (Which they'd probably enjoy anyway, so oxymorons aplenty eh?)


Now thats just a tad unfair dontchathink? Nah you are right...yet again :Punk:

[peasea]

Oi,some of us are just to old to straighten our backs so we have no choice but to ride sprotbikes:blink:Then again mine so old its more cruiser than anything else,by todays standards anyway.:shutup:

Ok, there are exceptions to the rule, but just behave yourself.

[98tls]

I'm surprised you haven't ridden into one! Actually fella i................:shutup:long time ago.

[laRIKin]

Ok, I stand corrected on that. My apologies.

Whatever happened it sounds like SOMEONE fucked up.

There has been a lot of shit written in this thread and would be easy to get the wrong end of the stick.
After all why let a little thing like fact's get in the way of a rant and rave.

And yes they did, big time.
We down here have seen the aftermath of a few head on crashers.
Two bikes and car bike head on's.

I never ever want to be around to see a multi bike head on with a car.
It would look like a war zone.

I hope the people involved are looking hard at them self's in the mirror and have learnt something to stop it ever happening again.

As next time, it may be a lot more than a bent car and a broken wire fence.

[peasea]

Actually fella i................:shutup:long time ago.

Hands up anyone who hasn't done something dumb on a motorcycle!

Thought so..............

I'll join you in the 'guilty' queue.

[MadDuck]

Hands up anyone who hasn't done something dumb on a motorcycle!

Define dumb please!

[98tls]

Hands up anyone who hasn't done something dumb on a motorcycle!

Thought so..............

I'll join you in the 'guilty' queue. Without doubt,i got lucky re said post,long story short,round a left hander hit some unmarked grit,went straight across the road and bike stopped dead front end down a little bank (bellied itself) i went vertical stupidly still hanging onto the bars :laugh:then landed on my back down the bank,right beside me a concrete fence post,lay there thinking fuck that would ave been a little nasty if i had have landed on that.Mind you after 38 years riding its not the only fuck-up along the way.:mellow:

[Swampdonkey]

Yeah those HD riders are a pack of fucktards up here to.

[MadDuck]

Yeah those HD riders are a pack of fucktards up here to.

Thats "too" to you ...

[R1madness]

funny that everyone assumes i was ridin a sports bike. It was a 1999 Buell Cyclone 1200. Not my GSXR1000. I had thought about takin the 99 HD Superglide but i took that last week....:slap:

[Grahameeboy]

i lawled so hard the cat woke up

You still sleeping with the cat..............

[onearmedbandit]

Wow there are truely some sensitive HD riders in this thread. Who really gives a fuck what they were riding (the point about them being on HD's was made by the car driver and relayed by the OP - At no time did the OP tar all HD riders with the same brush, but the some HD riders here are all too happy to tar all 'sprotsbike' riders with the same brush), who really gives a fuck what you decide to ride.

Jezz, never knew some HD riders were soooo sensitive. Do HD include custom tissue dispensers in their accesory options? Sounds like they should, would make a fucking mint. Oh yes I gave some red to you mad duck for your comment, see you couldn't help but respond in like.

[peasea]

Define dumb please!

You know that would take months......use your imagination.

[awayatc]

Define dumb please!

I don't understand.......

Do I qualify .......?

[oldrider]

funny that everyone assumes i was ridin a sports bike. It was a 1999 Buell Cyclone 1200. Not my GSXR1000. I had thought about takin the 99 HD Superglide but i took that last week....:slap:

Hint: Perhaps for people who don't know anything about you, (other than KB) these could be clues about their "assumptions"!

Your KB "user name, avatar and profile pic" give out signals that suggest you would probably be on a sprot bike! :lol:

[ratusratus]

I gotta have a beer with you mate!!!!
You sound just like me hahaha
Good onya mate

[NOWOOL]

I don't know if it ever occurred to the original poster, but H-D's are ACTUALLY being owned and ridden by some outlaw biker clubs!
Based on bikers I've met throughout the years you'll have more luck of getting help from Cruiser riders than you will from kids on sportbikes.

[onearmedbandit]

Depends solely on the rider, not the ride.

[DMNTD]

Depends solely on the rider, not the ride.

Cut it out man....way too true for KB :Pokey:

[R1madness]

Yes thats all true.... but then again people assume too much. Like tha assumption i hate Hogs is so wrong it funny... they are a hoot...
Yep i could change my name to ilikeallbikes but it doesn't really suit me... i have a bit more madness in me than that... i could change my avatar as well but i like that pic. Sometimes people see me on the road and are supprised that i ride many different bikes and enjoy them all. Going too fast is only part of my motorcycling, sometimes i like to enjoy the scenery, other times i will grab my WR426 and go for a hack in the dirt.

[DMNTD]

Yes thats all true.... but then again people assume too much. Like tha assumption i hate Hogs is so wrong it funny... they are a hoot...
Yep i could change my name to ilikeallbikes but it doesn't really suit me... i have a bit more madness in me than that... i could change my avatar as well but i like that pic. Sometimes people see me on the road and are surprised that i ride many different bikes and enjoy them all. Going too fast is only part of my motorcycling, sometimes i like to enjoy the scenery, other times i will grab my WR426 and go for a hack in the dirt.

Shame on you for being a well rounded motorcyclist! :rolleyes:

[boomer]

Shame on you for being a well rounded motorcyclist! :rolleyes:

one up the poopa?

[R1madness]

Shame on you for being a well rounded motorcyclist! :rolleyes:

actually i have been on a diet and going to the gym so not quite so rounded as i was hahahaha.

[R1madness]

"BOOMER" did ya mate? thats nice for ya. :clap:

[dangerous]

Shame on you for being a well rounded motorcyclist! :rolleyes:
... helps when ya own a MOTOR BIKE shop :rolleyes:

[R1madness]

well yea it does but i still have to buy my own personal bikes (and have to finance them as well) just like everyone else. After all if you saw me treating a shop bike the way i ride my own people would say "dont go there he thrashes all his shop bikes" which is so not true.
I love bikes, riding, and socialising with bikers, so i started my own shop... Anyone can have the ideal job if they try....

[PirateJafa]

Because KBers always own up... *thinks of the YamahaR64Life/Ducati*Hard "Hyppothetical Situation" thread...*

[dangerous]

well yea it does but i still have to buy my own personal bikes (and have to finance them as well) just like everyone else. After all if you saw me treating a shop bike the way i ride my own people would say "dont go there he thrashes all his shop bikes" which is so not true.
I love bikes, riding, and socialising with bikers, so i started my own shop... Anyone can have the ideal job if they try....

hey... you forgot a plug, let me


Just Motorcycles 57 HAWKE ST New Brighton Christchurch ph 03 3829503/021 2876987

[peasea]

No please, allow me.

[Flip]

Have you seen this..... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=104462

The cops are looking for "Motorcyclist was on a red bike with large fairing on the front (Jean is in the opinion that it was a 900 Ducati) with the rider wearing a red and white helmet."

Sounds like they are looking for a sports bike to me.

[dangerous]

Have you seen this..... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=104462

The cops are looking for "Motorcyclist was on a red bike with large fairing on the front (Jean is in the opinion that it was a 900 Ducati) with the rider wearing a red and white helmet."

Sounds like they are looking for a sports bike to me.

OHHHH all you red Duc riders are bad bad as shit, go on to hell with ya all... hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa, hogs you may all now go to heven :Pokey:

[DMNTD]

Sounds like they are looking for a sports bike to me.

Farking sports bikes! :apint:

[peasea]

Woohoo! Now we can really get stuck in!

Duke riders; you're all :buggerd:

[Katman]

This will not look good on our resume.

[dangerous]

Woohoo! Now we can really get stuck in!

Duke riders; you're all :buggerd: and whats with their red leathers with Ducati oll over them, talk about gay :Pokey:

[Conquiztador]

This will not look good on our resume.

You are talking about your self in plural form again! Please remember your meds!

[Oakie]

After reading the majority of this thread I can only really ask one question - how can a group of hds run a subaru off the road without putting themselves in considerable danger.

If the sub driver just held his line on the road, did nothing surprising and maintained his speed he'd have been fine. Sounds like there might be another side to this story.

I'd be a bit hesitant to jump to the defence of some boyracers in a subaru over an organised HOG ride... Just my $0.02 worth.

(fair enough, maybe they weren't boyracers - I was being inflammatory there haha).

But... just sounds like bad driving to me.

There was a group of middle aged women in the car, the offending bike was in their lane while overtaking a van and yes ... he was putting himself in considerable danger.

[rosie631]

You are talking about your self in plural form again! Please remember your meds!
Didn't you know he's royalty lol

[Katman]

You are talking about your self in plural form again! Please remember your meds!

Motorcyclists had better start learning that if we want a voice that is taken seriously we can't be seen condoning the actions of individuals that bring Motorcycling into disrepute.

I can see the headline now.......

Motorcyclist's actions cause Cheesecutter Carnage.

:weird:

[dangerous]

You are talking about your self in plural form again! Please remember your meds!

Didn't you know he's royalty lol
ummm... I think KM means it reflects badly on ALL bikers, but I think you guys relise this. :rolleyes:

[Squiggles]

aint that the truth...

[peasea]

There was a group of middle aged women in the car, the offending bike was in their lane while overtaking a van and yes ... he was putting himself in considerable danger.

Hunt him down and hang him from the nearest tree, to hell with the law!

[rosie631]

Sounds like they are looking for a sports bike to me.

It does indeed

[Mom]

I have not read all, but...

Seems to me like this situation could be argued till the cows come home.

We have a car off the road apparently avoiding a biker, who may or may have not been riding a Harley. The questions are numerous here. Was it that close, or did the driver panic and take evasive action, resulting in a total loss of control? Was it that close and the driver had no choice but to take evasive action to avoid turning said biker into a hood ornament? Was it the biker being a wanker? Was it the inexperience of the car driver? Was it...?

If I read well enough tonight there is another thread about this incident, the bike in question there being a Ducati of some sort?

What a storm in a tea cup. A car drove off the road, apparently through a cheesecutter barrier. Now that is actually what I am interested in. Did the car go through/under/over these wonderful barriers?

Thank God no one was badly injured here, and hopefully there is insurance to cover any damage done.

Shame us bikers are in for some bad rep though, Tractor or not, we have been called out here.

[CookMySock]

This incident was precipitated by a biker who may owe his life to the victim getting out of his way.Uh, theres always plenty of room right down the centerline. It's fair that the lady in the car didn't know that, but the rider will have, or should have.

It wasn't me, but if it was I'd keep my mouth shut, and it if was YOU I would STILL keep my mouth shut.

Do you really expect KBers to put someones neck in the noose? And for what? So the fuzz can fine them for it? What is this going to achieve? Revenge?

The person who did it will by now be aware of the harm they have caused, and I think things like that do ram themselves home quite firmly.

The courts have demonstrated in the past, that the roads are places for ordinary consumers, not just the vastly experienced or daring, so I make no bones about the harm caused - just that I don't think people should put their hands up to face execution.


Steve

[dangerous]

Now that is actually what I am interested in. Did the car go through/under/over these wonderful barriers?
see here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129332099&postcount=10 sems most of the damage was done from the following car!

[Brian d marge]

Why is the cheesecutter there? Highlights how this roadside abomination reduces the available space on a roadway without increasing the safety of those travelling on it.

+1 on that ... is it there to protect the deer?

at the moment its a careless driving charge for the idiot tailgating

and a poor sod with a busted car

the old bill sounded reasonable in the letter .....

Stephen

[CookMySock]

Cmon its just my opinion. So I am wrong.. I am often wrong. Theres no need to be rude. We're all friends here.

Steve

[Oakie]

The other thread is here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=104462 and I've posted up a couple of photos of the incident.

The highlights ... red bike passes a van on an uphill left hand sweeper into path of oncoming car. Oncoming car swerves to the left and brakes to avoid bike, is bunted up the bum by the following car and because they have swerved left on what to them is a right hand sweeper they are too far gone to get it back straight again. Falls off road and in between deer fence and cheesecutter. Red bike rides on.

[Oakie]

see here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129332099&postcount=10 sems most of the damage was done from the following car!

Yep. Cops said he was following too close and that's why he was charged.

[Flip]

I have not read all, but...

Seems to me like this situation could be argued till the cows come home.

We have a car off the road apparently avoiding a biker, who may or may have not been riding a Harley. The questions are numerous here. Was it that close, or did the driver panic and take evasive action, resulting in a total loss of control? Was it that close and the driver had no choice but to take evasive action to avoid turning said biker into a hood ornament? Was it the biker being a wanker? Was it the inexperience of the car driver? Was it...?

If I read well enough tonight there is another thread about this incident, the bike in question there being a Ducati of some sort?

What a storm in a tea cup. A car drove off the road, apparently through a cheesecutter barrier. Now that is actually what I am interested in. Did the car go through/under/over these wonderful barriers?

Thank God no one was badly injured here, and hopefully there is insurance to cover any damage done.

Shame us bikers are in for some bad rep though, Tractor or not, we have been called out here.

The car went in behind the barrier.

See what the police have to say about it in the other thread, she was backended by the vehicle following her.

The bike might have contributed to the accident but was not involved in it.

[Mom]

see here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129332099&postcount=10 sems most of the damage was done from the following car!

So the Op got it wrong when he said the car went through the Cheese cutter and partially down a bank as a result. OK.

[JMemonic]

Here we go again people who were not there and dont know the road making comments about the event, and then disparaging comments about the actions of the driver and police.

[Flip]

I dont think anybody except one of the two vehicles involved saw the accident. I guess thats a disparaging comment.

[AllanB]

Bloody red motorcycles.

Should be banned.

[ajturbo]

hahahah... good luck...

sorry to sound so neg, but......

[dangerous]

Here we go again people who were not there and dont know the road making comments about the event, and then disparaging comments about the actions of the driver and police.

dont be worried about it.. this is a forum, what else did you expect, all have a right to post their thoughts.

[Mully]

Wow. Jean XXXX should buy a lotto ticket. That could have been much worse than it was.

[SS90]

Ahh, only cruisers ay? - The bastards. Incidentally, it's never happened to me, does that make me a 1%er?


Your irony is giving your rationality a run for its money.

Considering R1madness used to own a black "Sturgis Sportster" (Terrorising the inhabitants of Lawrence in the South Island....)

What a "HOOT"!

I don't see that his mentioning that they where a "group of Harley riders" is a slight on Harley riders as a whole.

I see it as a way of identifying a group of people who where riding bikes in that area, at that time.

Granted, the general public have a misconception about Harley's (and there owners) but it is shit like this that reaffirms it.

NZ is a small place ChCh even more so.

I don't believe for a second that the people involved are no longer aware of this.

Over the years I found the cops really forgiving about speeding on a bike, but every single cop involved in this incident (THERE WILL BE A FEW) are going to make every motorcyclists life HELL from now on.

ALL TOGETHER NOW......... THANKS GUYS!

[carver]

Of course sprotbike riders would never ever ever be so irresponsible to do such a thing.

i would love to have a go

[Flip]

Considering R1madness used to own a black "Sturgis Sportster" (Terrorising the inhabitants of Lawrence in the South Island....)

What a "HOOT"!

I don't see that his mentioning that they where a "group of Harley riders" is a slight on Harley riders as a whole.

I see it as a way of identifying a group of people who where riding bikes in that area, at that time.

Granted, the general public have a misconception about Harley's (and there owners) but it is shit like this that reaffirms it.

NZ is a small place ChCh even more so.

I don't believe for a second that the people involved are no longer aware of this.

Over the years I found the cops really forgiving about speeding on a bike, but every single cop involved in this incident (THERE WILL BE A FEW) are going to make every motorcyclists life HELL from now on.

ALL TOGETHER NOW......... THANKS GUYS!

Not at all. The cops are looking for a Duke that was involved not a HD. See http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=104462

[kiwi cowboy]

Careful or you'll be joining the ranks of DangerousBastard as KB's biggest dumbarse.

you wanna watch out finn dangerousbastard has been known to take things international:Pokey::dodge:

[peasea]

I don't know if it ever occurred to the original poster, but H-D's are ACTUALLY being owned and ridden by some outlaw biker clubs!

Whoopdee fuckin' doo. Millions aren't ya twat!

[peasea]

you wanna watch out finn dangerousbastard has been known to take things international:Pokey::dodge:

Not possible, not possible.

[SS90]

Not at all. The cops are looking for a Duke that was involved not a HD. See http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=104462

Yea, I read that thread today, and was a little confused, as to if this was the same incident or not!:crazy:

From what I read, there is little in the way of evidence (one witness says bunch of Harleys, which (the presence of a group of Harleys) is backed up by an "after the fact" independent witness, where as another witness says it was a red Ducati 900...... who is right?), so the chances of someone being charged is slim (or maybe none)

My opinion has absolutely no effect (thankfully), but my somewhat cynical approach to things like this goes as such.

The witness (person involved in rear ending the "victims" car,) has every reason in the world to (attempt) to find a scapegoat, and as such, her memories maybe a little "unreliable".

While co-incidence is no proof of guilt (phew!) and, I assure you I am totally impartial to this, to me, it does seem A HUGE CO-INCIDENCE that
A) the driver of the Subaru said it was "a group of Harleys"
and
B) A group of Harleys left just before the first group on the scene.

Fortunately, NZ is a democratic country, and evidence is needed, BUT, if the guys/girls in question are indeed not guilty, then they should come forward and tell their story to the cops. Despite what some people with have you think, they aren't "Stazzi", and no-one is getting shot.

I am guessing it would be unwise to ride a red motorcycle (of any brand) down that way about now.

Using a basic pattern of events scenario, from what has been posted here

........ Using two witness descriptions.........

, A group of Harleys left the Peg, passed a Ducati 900, and the Rider of the Ducati tried so hard to catch the Harleys and pass them back, he ran a Subaru off the road.............

Sounds like an episode of the "twilight Zone" to me...........:scooter:

[Dooly]

I got a red Ducati, it was me.:whistle:

[Finn]

you wanna watch out finn dangerousbastard has been known to take things international:Pokey::dodge:

I think he'd have enough difficultly taking it to Rotorua.

[The Pastor]

bikes behaving badly on the road in a group ride?

WHAAAAAAAAAT????????

[The Stranger]

Over the years I found the cops really forgiving about speeding on a bike, but every single cop involved in this incident (THERE WILL BE A FEW) are going to make every motorcyclists life HELL from now on.

ALL TOGETHER NOW......... THANKS GUYS!

Get over it. Think yourself lucky you don't live in Hazard county.

[Elysium]

Harely riders are mean grumpy bastards who think waving is for gay sport bike riders...............bastards. :oi-grr:

[SilverGrin]

dont be worried about it.. this is a forum, what else did you expect, all have a right to post their thoughts.

Well that's all I was doing, making a couple of observations and copped some pretty intense and unfriendly flak for it.

Meh, KB can do without my opinion anyway I 'spose.

[Finn]

Harely riders are mean grumpy bastards who think waving is for gay sport bike riders...............bastards. :oi-grr:

Well after all, we're all patched members of gangs. What did you expect?

[MadDuck]

The cops are looking for a Duke that was involved not a HD.


The cops are looking for "Motorcyclist was on a red bike with large fairing on the front (Jean is in the opinion that it was a 900 Ducati) with the rider wearing a red and white helmet."

Sportsbike or HD lets hope they can find the person so they can give their version of events.....

I mean to say a Duc being overtaken by a bunch of Harleys - wtf?


.... this is a forum, what else did you expect, all have a right to post their thoughts.

Well you would think so wouldnt you. Pity there are also a lot of closed minded (sometimes nasty) posters on here. Although it does make for a great nights entertainment :yes:

[crazyhorse]

Unfortunately some riders are arrogant and ignorant. I helped a fallen rider at Christmas, and his mate just continued on to his home. He happily arrived at the scene with the guys wife after I managed to phone her to inform her of his condition.

Let me tell you, he had more than an earful from me - what kind of mate leaves you 5 km from home stuck under a bush, and doesn't even come back looking to see where you might be - but goes home, and casually puts his bike in the shed and changes out of his riding gear, and comes back after the wife phones him for help :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

[AllanB]

what kind of mate leaves you 5 km from home stuck under a bush, and doesn't even come back looking to see where you might be - but goes home, and casually puts his bike in the shed and changes out of his riding gear, and comes back after the wife phones him for help :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

Doh!!!!

Obviously the wife was seriously HOT and he enjoyed sitting next to her in the car. Otherwise he would have stayed home.

[SilverGrin]

Unfortunately some riders are arrogant and ignorant. I helped a fallen rider at Christmas, and his mate just continued on to his home. He happily arrived at the scene with the guys wife after I managed to phone her to inform her of his condition.

Let me tell you, he had more than an earful from me - what kind of mate leaves you 5 km from home stuck under a bush, and doesn't even come back looking to see where you might be - but goes home, and casually puts his bike in the shed and changes out of his riding gear, and comes back after the wife phones him for help :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

I bet that was a bloody Harley rider. Start a thread on it.

:whistle:

[Owl]

Harely riders are mean grumpy bastards who think waving is for gay sport bike riders...............bastards. :oi-grr:

I don't ride a Harley and I don't wave to you either:bleh:

[CookMySock]

Put it this way, would you feel the same if it happened to one of your family?No. Things that don't happen to my family don't affect us. I don't pick up others' problems or else I'd suffocate with the load of the world on me.

Hunting someone down and crucifying them does nothing. I will shutup now, I have said my piece.

Steve

[Katman]

No. Things that don't happen to my family don't affect us. I don't pick up others' problems or else I'd suffocate with the load of the world on me.



Your lack of moral fibre is repugnant.

[jetboy]

Hunting someone down and crucifying them does nothing.

Oooohhh I dunno bout that....

[Max Preload]

Your lack of moral fibre is repugnant.

I reckon you'd do well in Iran as a member of the Morality Police.

[Katman]

I reckon you'd do well in Iran as a member of the Morality Police.

So you agree with the concept of "say nothing and hide till it all blows over"?

[jrandom]

who is to say the driver didn't just 'freak out'

What he said.

Woman driver, too, so all bets are off.

By her own admission, she panic-braked and the car behind PITed her into a fence. No contact made with any other vehicle.

No great surprise that everyone in the crashed cars is now assuring the police that she was taking vitally necessary evasive action.

:laugh:


i lawled so hard the cat woke up

Me too. 'cept I'm allergic to cats. So it was like that tree falling in the forest wossname.

[jrandom]

Your lack of moral fibre is repugnant.

DB is the moral equivalent of fried dough; he never even reaches the intestines.

[Max Preload]

So you agree with the concept of "say nothing and hide till it all blows over"?

You trying to put words into my posts?

[Big Dave]

What he said..

Thoughts on Social networking V Social justice?

[Elysium]

I don't ride a Harley and I don't wave to you either:bleh:

.....and then there's those bloody Triumph riders! :p

[jrandom]

Thoughts on Social networking?

Social networks have low bandwidth and terrible reliability. I prefer copper cables.

[jrandom]

Social justice?

My bike was on the TV news the other night, parked outside the High Court.

Unfortunately, I think I was the only person in the country who noticed that.

[Katman]

You trying to put words into my posts?

Will you reimburse me if I do?

[funky monkey]

*enters thread* looks like going to say something... *closes mouth and walks out*

[PrincessBandit]

*enters thread* looks like going to say something... *closes mouth and walks out*

Probably not a bad idea if leaving yourself open to a good flaming doesn't appeal. :msn-wink:

[Max Preload]

Will you reimburse me if I do?

Do you think I would?

[short-circuit]

Hmmmm...red bike....red fairing....keen to 'Leave it and move on'...
It was DB...

Yeah but no one would mistake his pile of crap with a 900 Duc. though

[SixPackBack]

Why the fuck would any self respecting motorcyclist tell the coppers anything?

Guilty or innocent said motorcyclist will in all likely end up in court, many thousands of dollars will be extracted, many sleepless nights endured.

Judging by the familiar tone and continued reference to 'jean' in the original communique it would be safe to assume the copper has already made up his mind.

'Course the KB kangaroo court is well underway, and as usual armed with few facts you fookers are ready to hang the poor prick.

[dangerous]

What he said.

By her own admission, she panic-braked and the car behind PITed her into a fence. No contact made with any other vehicle... not quite... having seen pics on the other thread IMHO she panicked hit the ancors was rear ended and pushed down the bank.

[Oakie]

But it will do nothing to nail someone to the wall for it, except give the police someone to bash

And following that through there is no point prosecuting a rapist because it won't 'un-rape' the victim?


Sometimes the natural punishment for things has a better long-term effect than any artificial consequences laid. Absolutely true ... sometimes. However there is little deterent value to the whole of society in one person's remorse for doing something dumb. Like it or not, society sometimes needs to see it's own punishment meted out. Eye for an eye I guess ...


If everyone is insured and not hurt then it's time to move on and let everyone keep the lessons they have learned from it. And in this case we have three people with whiplash so they are hurt. Are they sufficiently unhurt for us to move on?

[Big Dave]

I prefer copper cables.

Was that a 10 you ate?

I'm not sure either.

[boomer]

And in this case we have three people with whiplash so they are hurt.

They should have bought a car with a better crash rating huh, like the govermunt tells us..

[SixPackBack]

And following that through there is no point prosecuting a rapist because it won't 'un-rape' the victim?

Emotive horseshite...

Absolutely true ... sometimes. However there is little deterent value to the whole of society in one person's remorse for doing something dumb. Like it or not, society sometimes needs to see it's own punishment meted out. Eye for an eye I guess ...

..........Except you don't know if 'one person' is guilty or not, in fact you know fuck all about the case!?

And in this case we have three people with whiplash so they are hurt. Are they sufficiently unhurt for us to move on?

No we have to blame someone first, anyone will do!

[BMWST?]

I know its not fair PB, you are right, and all motorists have a responsibility to not spook hell out of others so they run up some bank and kill their stupid selves.. But it will do nothing to nail someone to the wall for it, except give the police someone to bash and the insurance companies someone to sue.

This is the type of thing that makes your mates look at you sideways for a long long time, and the person who did it WILL know about it by now, and HIS mates will emphatically not be amused, I am sure. Sometimes the natural punishment for things has a better long-term effect than any artificial consequences laid.

If everyone is insured and not hurt then it's time to move on and let everyone keep the lessons they have learned from it. I am sure the poor lady in the car will be watching her rear-vision mirrors a lot better from now on, and the driver that hit her will slow down around corners he cant see around, and lets hope the biker backs off scaring hell outa motorists.

Leave it and move on.

Steve

what about the fact that the lady possibly saved the bikers life.....going by your logic i wouldnt stop if i see you run off the road...

[generalc]

For everyone reading this thread, I was the front seat passenger in the Subaru involved in the accident near Greta Valley on Sunday. Firstly I'd like to thank the motorcyclist who stopped to see if we were okay. Although you received a tirade from our driver, I know that she was in shock at that point, and knows categorically that you were not involved. Thank you so much for taking the time to stop. There were three of us in the car, and although we all were able to walk from the crashed vehicle, we have all sustained injuries, for which we are still receiving treatment. We have been told that it may be several months for the injuries to be completely healed. I understand that situations like these always create speculation as to what exactly happened, how it happened and where the accountability rests for the event.

I believe it is both relevant and pivotal, to clarify that our driver, drives thousands of kilometres every year as part of a job in which she has been employed for many years. Her driving experience is considerable. If it had not been for her defensive driving ability, we would all have suffered much more serious injuries. We consider ourselves very lucky to have not been killed in this accident.

Secondly, we all witnessed the event as it unfolded, and our collective memory of the event is identical. We all very clearly saw the motorcyclist at the front of the pack, who is the subject of this discussion.

This is not an issue about "narking" on anyone. It is an opportunity for all those involved to reflect on their actions - or lack of them. I continue to be astounded that neither the motorcyclist who is the subject of this discussion, nor any of that person's fellow - following - motorcyclists bothered to stop to see how we were. They could not have avoided seeing the accident. I know it takes courage to step up to the mark in situations like this, but it is the mark of a person's courage that enables them to be accountable for their actions.

[peasea]

.....and then there's those bloody Triumph riders! :p

I ride both; where does that leave me? (And no, not on the side of the road...)

[peasea]

My bike was on the TV news the other night, parked outside the High Court.

Unfortunately, I think I was the only person in the country who noticed that.

Or cared, haha

[Deano]

Secondly, we all witnessed the event as it unfolded, and our collective memory of the event is identical. We all very clearly saw the motorcyclist at the front of the pack, who is the subject of this discussion.

This is not an issue about "narking" on anyone. It is an opportunity for all those involved to reflect on their actions - or lack of them. I continue to be astounded that neither the motorcyclist who is the subject of this discussion, nor any of that person's fellow - following - motorcyclists bothered to stop to see how we were. They could not have avoided seeing the accident. I know it takes courage to step up to the mark in situations like this, but it is the mark of a person's courage that enables them to be accountable for their actions.

Hear hear - whoever it was, you allegedly farked up. Stand up ad take your medicine or at least put forward your side of the story, or forever be labelled an arsehole. Someone must know who it was. NZ is too small. 2 degree separation etc.

[SixPackBack]

<<<<<<"All rise for Judge Judy, the court is in session">>>>>>>>>

[Deano]

My bike was on the TV news the other night, parked outside the High Court.

Unfortunately, I think I was the only person in the country who noticed that.

What were you in there for bro ?

[boomer]

For everyone reading this thread, I was the front seat passenger in the Subaru involved in the accident near Greta Valley on Sunday. Firstly I'd like to thank the motorcyclist who stopped to see if we were okay. Although you received a tirade from our driver, I know that she was in shock at that point, and knows categorically that you were not involved. Thank you so much for taking the time to stop. There were three of us in the car, and although we all were able to walk from the crashed vehicle, we have all sustained injuries, for which we are still receiving treatment. We have been told that it may be several months for the injuries to be completely healed. I understand that situations like these always create speculation as to what exactly happened, how it happened and where the accountability rests for the event.

Whiplash is hardly life threatening.. take some aspirin and htfu


I believe it is both relevant and pivotal, to clarify that our driver, drives thousands of kilometres every year as part of a job in which she has been employed for many years. Her driving experience is considerable. If it had not been for her defensive driving ability, we would all have suffered much more serious injuries. We consider ourselves very lucky to have not been killed in this accident.

Bullshit, firstly, most kiwis cant drive for shit, secondly just becasue u do something regularly doesnt make u competant(sp) or good ( taxi, lorry and bus drivers are classic examples of dangerous drivers ) .. and lastly teh cheesewire safety fence would have saved you.. the govermunt tells us so.




Secondly, we all witnessed the event as it unfolded, and our collective memory of the event is identical. We all very clearly saw the motorcyclist at the front of the pack, who is the subject of this discussion.

How come you couldnt get his plate Number then.. 3 of u all looking at a bike and none of u register, at worst, 5 digits...


This is not an issue about "narking" on anyone. It is an opportunity for all those involved to reflect on their actions - or lack of them. I continue to be astounded that neither the motorcyclist who is the subject of this discussion, nor any of that person's fellow - following - motorcyclists bothered to stop to see how we were. They could not have avoided seeing the accident. I know it takes courage to step up to the mark in situations like this, but it is the mark of a person's courage that enables them to be accountable for their actions.

Like most kiwis do when they bump ya car in the car park, or pull out on ya and say sorry gov, i didnt see ya, or change lanes and put the shits up you on the motorway...

im all for personal responsibility but it goes two ways...

And by the way.. wasnt me.. i would have waved :wavey:

[sunhuntin]

scariest thing about this thread... i actually agree with katmans comments on page 2. :eek5: :crazy: :gob: :bash: :wacko:

[MadDuck]

And by the way.. wasnt me.. i would have waved :wavey:

Bet you wouldnt have :pinch:

[boomer]

Bet you wouldnt have :pinch:

you know me.. i'll chat to any cnut !

[PirateJafa]

How come you couldnt get his plate Number then.. 3 of u all looking at a bike and none of u register, at worst, 5 digits...

You've been riding a bike for HOW many years without noticing there is no numberplate on the front?

This explains so much...

[Deano]

Why the fuck would any self respecting motorcyclist tell the coppers anything?



If they are the wrong, fookin nothing ? Like any "self respecting" M/C that is in the wrong ?

IF they did nothing wrong....sweet. Keep schtum.

[MadDuck]

Course the KB kangaroo court is well underway, and as usual armed with few facts you fookers are ready to hang the poor prick.[/FONT]

You are not wrong there. The bike description was way off for a start. Like said biker is going to come on to KB to be toasted.

Oh wait thats right the bike was red. Now let me see. Can anyone tell me how many red HDs are out there? Honest injun question.

[Deano]

Bet you wouldnt have :pinch:

Bet you would have 'started a thread' LOL

[boomer]

You've been riding a bike for HOW many years without noticing there is no numberplate on the front?

This explains so much...

be quiet child .. adults on big bikes are talking.

[MadDuck]

Bet you would have 'started a thread' LOL

Now thats just not fair. Wait ... a thread on what colour bikes wave more than others. Now thats a novel idea :whistle: Bet you white wins!

[Maha]

Now thats just not fair. Wait ... a thread on what colour bikes wave more than others. Now thats a novel idea :whistle: Bet you white wins!

Na Blue Rules!!!! :yes:

[NordieBoy]

What were you in there for bro ?

Free pizza in the breaks.

[Deano]

Now thats just not fair. Wait ... a thread on what colour bikes wave more than others. Now thats a novel idea :whistle: Bet you white wins!

But what is fair in life ?

And white bikes are pure as driven snow.......:whistle: And I waved at Round 3......for the competition to give me some farkin room on the track....LOL

[PirateJafa]

be quiet child .. adults on big bikes are talking.
Now now old man, come back when you want to learn how to ride a real bike - not something so morbidly large it's only one step away from being a car.

'Course, look on the bright side. You're only a few years from being retired from doing anything fun, ever, when you buy your cruiser. :niceone:

[MadDuck]

And I waved at Round 3......for the competition to give me some farkin room on the track....LOL

Wave at Buckley and I am sure he will give you a wave back :whistle:

[boomer]

Now now old man, come back when you want to learn how to ride a real bike - not something so morbidly large it's only one step away from being a car.

'Course, look on the bright side. You're only a few years from being retired from doing anything fun, ever, when you buy your cruiser. :niceone:

even more reason for you to be quiet.. please.. stop biting at my ankles

[peasea]

You are not wrong there. The bike description was way off for a start. Like said biker is going to come on to KB to be toasted.



I get toasted on kb all the time.......:Oops:

[MaxB]

For everyone reading this thread, I was the front seat passenger in the Subaru involved in the accident near Greta Valley on Sunday. Firstly I'd like to thank the motorcyclist who stopped to see if we were okay. Although you received a tirade from our driver, I know that she was in shock at that point, and knows categorically that you were not involved. Thank you so much for taking the time to stop. There were three of us in the car, and although we all were able to walk from the crashed vehicle, we have all sustained injuries, for which we are still receiving treatment. We have been told that it may be several months for the injuries to be completely healed. I understand that situations like these always create speculation as to what exactly happened, how it happened and where the accountability rests for the event.

I believe it is both relevant and pivotal, to clarify that our driver, drives thousands of kilometres every year as part of a job in which she has been employed for many years. Her driving experience is considerable. If it had not been for her defensive driving ability, we would all have suffered much more serious injuries. We consider ourselves very lucky to have not been killed in this accident.

Secondly, we all witnessed the event as it unfolded, and our collective memory of the event is identical. We all very clearly saw the motorcyclist at the front of the pack, who is the subject of this discussion.

This is not an issue about "narking" on anyone. It is an opportunity for all those involved to reflect on their actions - or lack of them. I continue to be astounded that neither the motorcyclist who is the subject of this discussion, nor any of that person's fellow - following - motorcyclists bothered to stop to see how we were. They could not have avoided seeing the accident. I know it takes courage to step up to the mark in situations like this, but it is the mark of a person's courage that enables them to be accountable for their actions.

KB being what it is means you probably have to get someone known to the list to vouch for you due to the number of trolls on here.

FWIW don't hold your breath waiting for the rider to come forward. If they didn't stop at the time you have very little chance of finding him/her now. Plus KB only forms a small part of the wider bike community. They may not even have heard of KB.

[Deano]

Wave at Buckley and I am sure he will give you a wave back :whistle:

Was that a guess ? It was Paul.

[Oakie]

KB being what it is means you probably have to get someone known to the list to vouch for you due to the number of trolls on here.
.

I vouch for their identity. Besides ... check the quality of the English. Too good for most of us.

[Oakie]

Whiplash is hardly life threatening.. take some aspirin and htfu

Aspirin and a dose of HTFU! Who would have thought? My old mate Clive would be a bit pissed off to think a little pill and some advice would have helped him after his intersection accident a few years ago. I guess on reflection though that the aspirin and the HTFU advice probably wouldn't have worked for him as the whiplash he suffered broke his neck and killed him instantly...

[Max Preload]

Well, lookie here; twelve viewers on Hogs and other cruisers; I think that's a record and all because of a bent Subaru. Is that irony or what?

How the fuck did I end up in here? I feel so dirty! :shit:

[boomer]

Aspirin and a dose of HTFU! Who would have thought? My old mate Clive would be a bit pissed off to think a little pill and some advice would have helped him after his intersection accident a few years ago. I guess on reflection though that the aspirin and the HTFU advice probably wouldn't have worked for him as the whiplash he suffered broke his neck and killed him instantly...

Thats like comparing a red arsed munkee from the jungles of singapore with a can of sardines from blackpool.

your mates accident saw his neck snapped, probably because of a red ducati... this scenario saw threee women drive themselves of the road and crick there necks when they went over some ant hills...

not really a fair example now is it...



btw, i got whiplash in the uk and got 1,800 pounds compensation. NEVER did i worry about my neck braking or my eyes balls instantaneously exploding..

[Finn]

My guess is that the fault is with both the biker and the Subaru driver. Kiwi's are shite drivers at the best of times. Sounds like she over reacted and ended up in the ditch.

[oldrider]

KB being what it is means you probably have to get someone known to the list to vouch for you due to the number of trolls on here.

FWIW don't hold your breath waiting for the rider to come forward. If they didn't stop at the time you have very little chance of finding him/her now. Plus KB only forms a small part of the wider bike community. They may not even have heard of KB.

Despite the "large" membership of KB, I am constantly amazed at how few of the motorcycling fraternity at large have even heard of it!

The important part is, of course, that "I" have and "you" have! :shifty: Little else matters really! :whistle:

[SixPackBack]

I vouch for their identity. Besides ... check the quality of the English. Too good for most of us.

How does the quality of her English affect her memory or driving??...

It fooken doesn't Oakie!

[Max Preload]

My guess is that the fault is with both the biker and the Subaru driver. Kiwi's are shite drivers at the best of times. Sounds like she over reacted and ended up in the ditch.

I second this hypothesis. Driving along in her own little world and was surprised at seeing a bike completing an overtaking manouvre and simply panicked, veering off the road.


Unfortunately for you lot there is video evidence of your group (not taken by us) and it shows number plates clearly.

I smell much male bovine excrement given the appeal from the Police for information to identify the rider.

[Headbanger]

Can anyone tell me how many red HDs are out there? Honest injun question.

Plenty, Including mine. Have a look on trademe for many more. Red has been used as a factory standard colour on plenty of bikes.


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/CategoryAttributeSearchResults.aspx?search=1&mcat=0001-0026-1255-&sidebar=1&39=&40=Harley+Davidson&153=red&9=0&9=0&24=0&24=0&51=0&51=0

[Kickaha]

I second this hypothesis. Driving along in her own little world and was surprised at seeing a bike completing an overtaking manouvre and simply panicked, veering off the road.


You sound like a typical motorcyclist unwilling to accept that riders can fuck up and cause accidents

But yeah if it makes you feel beter blame the car driver

[boomer]

You sound like a typical motorcyclist unwilling to accept that riders can fuck up and cause accidents

But yeah if it makes you feel beter blame the car driver

it would please me to blame you !

Kickaha DID IT

[peasea]

Plenty, Including mine. Have a look on trademe for many more. Red has been used as a factory standard colour on plenty of bikes.


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/CategoryAttributeSearchResults.aspx?search=1&mcat=0001-0026-1255-&sidebar=1&39=&40=Harley+Davidson&153=red&9=0&9=0&24=0&24=0&51=0&51=0

Yup, I know of plenty and my last HD was two-tone red.

[Oakie]

[FONT=Comic Sans MS]How does the quality of her English affect her memory or driving??.

It doesn't. The question was (in a round about way) ... is this a troll? I just said that her English was so good that she probably wouldn't have been a KBer ... hence, this was not a troll. Moot point anyway. They person who wrote that was the front seat passenger. I sent them the link to the thread on Thursday night.

[Ixion]

Why is always Subarus that this sort of thing happens to, I wonder?

Just askin.

[dangerous]

There were three of us in the car, and although we all were able to walk from the crashed vehicle, we have all sustained injuries, for which we are still receiving treatment. We have been told that it may be several months for the injuries to be completely healed. We consider ourselves very lucky to have not been killed in this accident. this makes me giggle... you ever seen a person actually fucked up in a serious acco? get over it I have done worse at work.

Secondly, we all witnessed the event as it unfolded, and our collective memory of the event is identical. We all very clearly saw the motorcyclist at the front of the pack, who is the subject of this discussion. ok good of you to say cos i think most here figgered it was a bike at the back of a pack.

Hence the actions of the group as one and not stopping is farking disgusting

[popelli]

I have read most of this thread

We have an eye witness and supposed video evidence of this incident, what is the purpose of this thread, why not just name the bike / registration # involved

But I am perplexed at the people being able to clearly read the number plate of the bike involved, assuming the bike was travelling in the opposite direction to the car most peoples attention would have been focused on the cheese cutter wire and the accident rather than looking behind them to read a number plate which would have been obsured by the other bikes in the pack

If the video was taken by a car following the bike involved then the bike was not in a group and riding by themselves

Something does not add up and I smell a rat

I am also perplexed that the eye witness has not given any description of the bike involved

[MarkH]

At the weekend I stopped (on my Harley) to help a broken down biker (on some old Honda). A bloke on, maybe, a new-looking GSXR / R1 ish bike had already stopped but you never know when you might be able to help (even if it was just to loan a mobile phone). Anyway, I was all but f'kin' ignored when I offered to help so after an uncomfortable pause said 'So, you don't need any help then?' Mr R1 peered up to say no so I fucked off and left them without getting so much as a 'Thanks for stopping'. Had I just ridden past I'm sure I'd have been condemned for that too. What is it with some ignorant f'kin' people?

Now that is fuckin' rude! Would it have cost them anything to say "We have it under control, but thanks for stopping" or something similar? Just a little politeness when someone does the decent thing and stops to see if they can help, would it be that much to ask?

[Molly]

Now that is fuckin' rude! Would it have cost them anything to say "We have it under control, but thanks for stopping" or something similar? Just a little politeness when someone does the decent thing and stops to see if they can help, would it be that much to ask?

Well, I thought as much but fuck 'em.

[peasea]

Now that is fuckin' rude! Would it have cost them anything to say "We have it under control, but thanks for stopping" or something similar? Just a little politeness when someone does the decent thing and stops to see if they can help, would it be that much to ask?

Yeah mate, I've been on the side of the road with everything under control when someone rocks up to offer assistance. "Hey man, thanks for stopping, we're ok, but cheers anyway". How hard is it to be polite?

It wasn't so long ago I was riding past a couple of bikers, didn't notice what they were riding; I went 'thumbs up, thumbs down' with my left hand, got the thumbs 'up' so carried on.

It's pretty fuckin' simple.

[peasea]

Well, I thought as much but fuck 'em.

Hope you had protection:Punk:

[Molly]

Hope you had protection:Punk:

Yes. The Sopranos were following behind in a big Chrysler :-)

[SDU]

Oh wait thats right the bike was red. Now let me see. Can anyone tell me how many red HDs are out there? Honest injun question.

Oh I know off a few around & oh I saw one in pass me on the the day off accident:yawn:

I'm just glad the outcome off accident wasn't worse.
it could have been avoided but wasn't= people need to learn from it. The car driver that rear ended the car slowing to avoid bike(s) was as much at fault as rider heading into oncoming traffic.

[grantnz]

Whoa, thats a bit harsh.

[Squid69]

Of course sprotbike riders would never ever ever be so irresponsible to do such a thing.

they would do it one at a fucking time not 20 at a time.

I hear assless chaps with tassels go down well in prison...

[Squid69]

I have read most of this thread

We have an eye witness and supposed video evidence of this incident, what is the purpose of this thread, why not just name the bike / registration # involved

But I am perplexed at the people being able to clearly read the number plate of the bike involved, assuming the bike was travelling in the opposite direction to the car most peoples attention would have been focused on the cheese cutter wire and the accident rather than looking behind them to read a number plate which would have been obsured by the other bikes in the pack

If the video was taken by a car following the bike involved then the bike was not in a group and riding by themselves

Something does not add up and I smell a rat

I am also perplexed that the eye witness has not given any description of the bike involved

Says there is video of a group of tractors leaving the pub.

a group of tractors ran a guy off the road.

FKN farm equipment should not be on the road

[buellbabe]

YIKES! I got as far as page 8 shaking my head at some posts, agreeing with others, ingeneral having a sour taste in my mouth about the whole state of affairs...and then it is revealed that it wasn't a GROUP of bikes that forced the car off the road but only ONE fuckwit...

Hope the offender gets nailed...even if its only for failure to stop...and I don't give a fuck WHAT he or she was riding...

[Finn]

they would do it one at a fucking time not 20 at a time.

I hear assless chaps with tassels go down well in prison...

That's quite a mouth you got there kid.

[peasea]

That's quite a mouth you got there kid.

Which would also go down well in the can.

"Just five minutes, me and him alone......"

[Paul in NZ]

Now that is fuckin' rude! Would it have cost them anything to say "We have it under control, but thanks for stopping" or something similar? Just a little politeness when someone does the decent thing and stops to see if they can help, would it be that much to ask?

Meh - I turned off to check on a HD dude stopped in a layby lookin at his bike - looking like it had broke - he got pretty excited and started flapping his arms in a fuck off, go back motion, jesus, I thought he was gunna start throwing rocks at me... I figure either

a; the embarassment of being saved by an old triumph was too much

b; he was waiting for his dealer

c; his mate were burying a body in the layby and it was already getting hard enough to find a free space let alone one for a rider and a bike...

Left him to it.....

[Fatjim]

I personally feel that women and old people do not make very good witnesses to motor vehicle accidents. They have little understanding about such things.

[Paul in NZ]

I personally feel that women and old people do not make very good witnesses to motor vehicle accidents. They have little understanding about such things.

Old women being the worst eh Jim?

Really - the whole things a sad sad tale... no good will come of this

[oldrider]

I personally feel that women and old people do not make very good witnesses to motor vehicle accidents. They have little understanding about such things.

Why, thank you (not) for that vote of confidence Fatjim, I shall treasure it forever! :rofl:

[peasea]

I personally feel that women and old people do not make very good witnesses to motor vehicle accidents. They have little understanding about such things.

What about obese old women with glaucoma and conjunctivitis? They're fuckin' hopeless witnesses.

[Squid69]

Which would also go down well in the can.

"Just five minutes, me and him alone......"

Ill bite your cock off before you can rape me you faggot

[Finn]

Ill bite your cock off before you can rape me you faggot

Anybody that would be that desperate should be severily punished. I think the offense is "cruelty to animals".

Oink oink

[peasea]

Ill bite your cock off before you can rape me you faggot

I was calling to mind the line used by the judge in Pink Floyd's movie 'The Wall', where the judge used the line I quoted and he looked as though having five minutes alone with the young man caught red-handed showing feelings (of an almost human nature) would almost certainly result in a sound thrashing, not being fucked up the bum as you surmise.

[peasea]

Ill bite your cock off before you can rape me you faggot

Oh, and if you'd like to front me and call me "an AIDS infested homo" to my face I'm well up for it.

[dangerous]

Oh, and if you'd like to front me and call me "an AIDS infested homo" to my face I'm well up for it.
he who makes the most noise... has the most to hide, a confused lad dosnt even know what sex he is :blink: